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While I'm excited for the possibility of watching ANN get Gawker'd, what exactly are the odds of them being sued here? Is it as good as MoRon's odds were for round 1?
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Only when Einstein killed Hitler with time travel in Red Alert
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Probably pretty good, considering the fact that it was their shitty article (which included the picture of girl who had not been assaulted by Vic without her permission) that helped kickstart this shit. The biggest issue is that they are apparently located outside Texas, and that makes serving them more difficult. Hopefully, discovery for the first round of lawsuits will turn up dirt on them.
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He probably has a drawing and quartering station in the middle of their kitchen, and to get to the coffee machine Marz Has to move a weeping, halfway flayed victim hanging off a meat hook. She thinks her hubby is the nicest, most kind guy in town.
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Serving them probably isn't the issue so much as which state would have jurisdiction. I'm sure litigation across state lines happens all the time in the US.
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Interstate court cases are much trickier and much more expensive. Also, Anime News Network is based out of Canada. That means an international case, requiring international servicing, which is even more expensive. I'm also not sure about the jurisdiction of a case involving ANN. If its in Canada, under Canadian law...that lawsuit would be a humongous pain in the ass, especially, since I don't think Beard had any lawyers licensed to work in Canada.
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You could probably use the argument that it was "published" in Texas by virtue of being available online in Texas (which also covers the "doing business in aspect) and that the harm occurred in Texas. That's always the argument used here to get our courts to accept jurisdiction in defamation cases against US media defendants.
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So does Trump
Mudazumo Naki Kaikaku: Princess Of Zipang Manga - Mangakakalot.com
The sequel series to The Legend of Koizumi.
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The obvious case is Keeton v. Hustler. That involved the obviously broad circulation magazine named in the case and was brought in New Hampshire and the wide publication of the magazine was the only real basis for jurisdiction. I don't think ANN is that widely published. It's certainly available in every state but just being on the Internet doesn't confer jurisdiction everywhere.
The other question is the Texas long arm statute. Texas has an expansive long arm statute and the only limits to it are the due process clause of the U.S. Constitution. This looks like a case where the Texas Supreme Court looked at it recently: TV Azteca v. Ruiz, 490 S.W.3d 29 (2016). It's actually about a TV station in Mexico that had a signal strong enough to reach Texas and allegedly aired defamatory material about Texas residents, but that alone wasn't sufficient for jurisdiction. However, other activities of the station constituting personal availment were.
I'd guess there would have to be more of a jurisdictional hook than the mere defamation of Texas citizens by an Internet site that (like all other Internet sites) is available in Texas.
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Trump also appeared in Baki The Grappler, but that depiction was much less flattering.So does Trump
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The sequel series to The Legend of Koizumi.mangakakalot.com
Though still entirely understandable because you don't fucking mess with The Ogre.
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Why doesnt renfamous have her own thread yet? Or is search just fucked and I'm retarded?
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The best part of this timeline is that Ty said the amazons will probably do the deposition.
Okay. It should live and die with the outcome of Vic's case. Or, at least, after a brief celebration and a few victory laps.
The only ones who will cling to it is KickVic, who will try to 9/11 it for years to come. Never forget, fellow kids.
Well, I mean, there's two. There's exactly two.
Good god, that entire video is 100% pure Colombian weapons-grade cringe. This is why I don't go to cons. And neither should you.
Many have tried that, and failed. They would have to have "sufficient business contacts" with the State of Texas. A brick and mortar location. A con. A member of the staff who lives in Texas. Something like that.
"I can ask them to ship items to Texas" is not sufficient.
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Umm just curious would conspiring with a Texas resident to defame another Texas resident be enough?
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Sadly, you're being exceptional.
Here is the thread for Renfamous and her remoras:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/whale-wars.55358/
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tl;dr: SJW Poes are more prone to being taken at face value, and only being disagreed with when they ask for a cause of action that isn't Twitter slacktivism. A lot of the time, SJWs who take a satirical take seriously will say they disagree but merely rephrase what they believe so it says the same thing, just in a more complicated way.
This article by lolcow Arthur Chu I think covers a lot of the current SJW mindset about both satire, and incidentally what #believewomen leads to (which is basically 'Even if it's not true, the accusation is enough to taint the man accused for me, no matter what').
Zealots on both sides are prone to Poes. But SJWs, due to 'words are literal violence' and 'we must eliminate wrongthink' positions, are easier to confuse, because they're more likely to hotly deny that they agree with a satirical position - such as the idea that Vic's actions have a net negative effect on the anime fan community such that they should sue for damages - only to rephrase it with buzzwords and jargon that shows that they do essentially agree with it, they just want to disguise their true intent with complicated language. Often the only difference will be, using this example, they would argue against actual action but agree with the concept behind it - 'we shouldn't sue him, but he is at fault for living rent-free in our heads and it's a sign of how bad he is that we can't stop attacking him.'
Which, Chu has an article like that as well, where yes, he's very very clear that he condemns the Charlie Hebdo murders, but then proceeds to argue that maybe, just maybe, they were making the world a worse place and we shouldn't mourn their deaths, and isn't it bad that they've been elevated to martyrdom when they don't really deserve it?
Zealots on both sides are prone to Poes. But SJWs, due to 'words are literal violence' and 'we must eliminate wrongthink' positions, are easier to confuse, because they're more likely to hotly deny that they agree with a satirical position - such as the idea that Vic's actions have a net negative effect on the anime fan community such that they should sue for damages - only to rephrase it with buzzwords and jargon that shows that they do essentially agree with it, they just want to disguise their true intent with complicated language. Often the only difference will be, using this example, they would argue against actual action but agree with the concept behind it - 'we shouldn't sue him, but he is at fault for living rent-free in our heads and it's a sign of how bad he is that we can't stop attacking him.'
Which, Chu has an article like that as well, where yes, he's very very clear that he condemns the Charlie Hebdo murders, but then proceeds to argue that maybe, just maybe, they were making the world a worse place and we shouldn't mourn their deaths, and isn't it bad that they've been elevated to martyrdom when they don't really deserve it?
Edit: Also, a parody account, but is relevant:
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Was business disparagement one of Vic's causes of action? I don't recall Nick or Ty mentioning it.
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Because that would make all the difference dragging someone from Canada into a U.S. civil court: whether it was business disparagement or defamation per se.
Maybe I'm missing your point?
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It's just something I noticed in the footnotes, unrelated to the issue of jurisdiction.
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...wow...
I stopped digging into Matsuri when I found the lolicon stuff thinking "it can't get funnier than this". Once again, the newfag is wrong.
Also, how does almost three pages populate in the 7 hours I was away? This is the gossipiest rag on the entire interwebs.