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I'm still confused.

What's the point of deleting tweets that you need for evidence? What are the tweets?
Tweets considered defamatory, I'm guessing? They'd be deleted as part of the end agreement, so it's only natural for them to be deleted at some point.
 
I'm still confused.

What's the point of deleting tweets that you need for evidence? What are the tweets?

It's a pain in the ass but basically Texas makes you preserve the Tweets on like a document or something also while asking you to delete or remove all of the defamatory Tweets. She may have gotten a big packet like our soy boy toy,eh and has to delete them. As long as we archived most of the ones she deleted it's not something to worry about.
 
Anybody know what Homeberg is sperging out on twitter about? Specifically today, I mean.

Just look at Rekieta's Twitter feed and you'll see.

He's reeing how even if Monica is found to have defamed Vic and loses the case she'll still get more work than Vic and will make up any lost money in a year.

Does Monica even do anything other than Funimation/Rooster Teeth work? Vic still has Viz Media, Bang Zoom!, Sentai, Aniplex, Netflix, video games, audiobooks, cartoons, music...stuff like that.

If Vic wins who's gonna hire Monica if it's proven she made up bullshit about sexual allegations? That's the kind of person you don't deal with if you can avoid it

Or can't back it up and stir shit up. Remember Chris Hardwick. All it took was legal action to get him back in the game, despite some of his friends abandoning him in his work.
 
So, some of the website's users are in Texas. To quote an exceptional idiot: "This ain't it, chief."
No. The article was written with the help of people in Texas and was specifically marketed in Texas by people in Texas, all for the purposes of conspiring to commit defamation which caused harm, in Texas, to someone who lives in Texas.

That's an awful lotta "in Texas".
 
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Just look at Rekieta's Twitter feed and you'll see.
You'd think so. But you'd be wrong. In Shane's defense, I may have advised him to eat a shoe at some point.
No. The article was written with the help of people in Texas and was specifically marketed in Texas by people in Texas, all for the purposes of conspiring to commit defamation which caused harm, in Texas, to someone who lives in Texas.

That's an awful lotta "in Texas".
How does a website in Canada "specifically market to Texas"?

I'm all for dragging these lying assholes into court. But you may have to go to Canada to actually do that.

Maybe you could reach the Texans in Texas? And then you have to prove they were the source. What's the opposite of prima facie?
 
It's a civil case. You don't get extradited if you don't show up. You just lose your case. Then the judgment creditor files a motion in your local court to domesticate the foreign judgment, executes on it, and collects like they would any other judgment.

And any judgement WILL be recognized in Canada.
 
Jim Sterling got dragged to court in whatever bumfuck state that was all the way from the UK because the person who sued him bought some merch thus proving that he did business there. I'm sure they can come up with some reason to drag ANN to Texas.

But also, didn't Nick say it would actually be worse for ANN to get sued in Canada because their defamation laws are much worse for the defendents there?
 
You'd think so. But you'd be wrong. In Shane's defense, I may have advised him to eat a shoe at some point.

How does a website in Canada "specifically market to Texas"?

I'm all for dragging these lying assholes into court. But you may have to go to Canada to actually do that.

Technically, ANN even says that it's all over the place. The place where Chris MacDonald resides is in Canada.
 
But also, didn't Nick say it would actually be worse for ANN to get sued in Canada because their defamation laws are much worse for the defendents there?

Him and Ty both said on stream "no first amendment." So apparently a lot of speech there in general isn't as protected as in the USA.
 
It's a civil case. You don't get extradited if you don't show up. You just lose your case. Then the judgment creditor files a motion in your local court to domesticate the foreign judgment, executes on it, and collects like they would any other judgment.
Is that how it worked in Hughes v. Benjamin? I may have been misinformed.
Jim Sterling got dragged to court in whatever bumfuck state that was all the way from the UK because the person who sued him bought some merch thus proving that he did business there. I'm sure they can come up with some reason to drag ANN to Texas.

But also, didn't Nick say it would actually be worse for ANN to get sued in Canada because their defamation laws are much worse for the defendents there?
Sterling was living in the US at the time.

EDIT: And, if I recall, there was an issue of Jurisdiction there too. Romine literally said his state had jurisdiction because he bought a shirt online. Which is exactly what I'm hearing here, re: "well I can view their website." That's an example of 'significant contact' that got laughed out of court.

EDIT2: Glad I kept some documents. Since this is KF, I'll just drop the full addresses (these are old, btw):

James O. Romine Jr.
12494 Ironwood Rd.
Yuma, Arizona 85367

James Nicholas Stanton
1004 Riverchase North Dr.
Brandon, Mississippi 39047
 
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Jim Sterling got dragged to court in whatever bumfuck state that was all the way from the UK because the person who sued him bought some merch thus proving that he did business there. I'm sure they can come up with some reason to drag ANN to Texas.

I'm pretty sure he could have contested jurisdiction successfully but the case itself was so laughably weak it was probably cheaper just to get it dismissed on the "merits."

But also, didn't Nick say it would actually be worse for ANN to get sued in Canada because their defamation laws are much worse for the defendents there?

I didn't see that stream but he's right. It's just that actually going to the effort of a separate suit in Canada just for that might not make financial sense.

They have a little longer SoL there, though. Two years as opposed to one.

EDIT: And, if I recall, there was an issue of Jurisdiction there too. Romine literally said his state had jurisdiction because he bought a shirt online. Which is exactly what I'm hearing here, re: "well I can view their website." That's an example of 'significant contact' that got laughed out of court.

It wasn't dismissed for that, though, but under FRCPs 8 and 12(b)(6) for being unintelligible garbage, not stating a cause of action, and the plaintiff not being able to represent "Digital Homicide" because he is not a lawyer and didn't plead anything that alleged he had some personal cause of action.
 
It wasn't dismissed for that, though, but under FRCPs 8 and 12(b)(6) for being unintelligible garbage, not stating a cause of action, and the plaintiff not being able to represent "Digital Homicide" because he is not a lawyer and didn't plead anything that alleged he had some personal cause of action.
I didn't say it was dismissed. I said he lacked jurisdiction.
 
I didn't say it was dismissed. I said he lacked jurisdiction.

The court never found itself to lack jurisdiction and decided the case on the merits, which it wouldn't have done had it found it had no jurisdiction.
 
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