Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[repentance]

What could get ANN dragged to Texas imo was when they put out that twitter stuff asking for direct info relating to Vic. If a certain crew of Texans sent them defamatory info, which they published, and causing damages to business activity within Texas, you meet the standard. They didn't just put a story on the internet, they reached out to people in Texas for that story, which caused damage in Texas.

In that respect it's somewhat similar to the Calder case, which raises another question - where are the authors and editors of the ANN article located?

Unless there's a rapid and very large settlement in round 1, I'm not sure round 2 will even happen. I doubt Vic wants to be tied up in legal actions for years for the sake of going after just one more person. So it's not likely round 2 would include anyone who isn't extremely attractive as a defendant.

 

[Kosher Salt]

You'd think so. But you'd be wrong. In Shane's defense, I may have advised him to eat a shoe at some point.

How does a website in Canada "specifically market to Texas"?

I'm all for dragging these lying assholes into court. But you may have to go to Canada to actually do that.

Maybe you could reach the Texans in Texas? And then you have to prove they were the source. What's the opposite of prima facie?

It's very similar to this, where it was ruled that the court did have personal jurisdiction.

To Establish Personal Jurisdiction, Minimum Contacts Must Be With Forum State, Not Just Its Resident

Due Process is satisfied when a non-resident has sufficient minimum contacts with a state such that exercise of jurisdiction over him does not offend traditional...

www.lexisnexis.com

It'd take quite a bit of evidence-gathering to actually prove who talked to whom, of course, which is why it probably wouldn't make sense to sue them just yet. But that evidence could turn up.

 

[Hallstein995]

She's done some Sentai stuff, as has Marchi. Monica's most recent role was... I think Made In Abyss. Other than that, I think they're both exclusively Texas based.

I don't think Marchi has done anything for sentai. for a long time sentai was the bottom of the barrel for VAs, if you didn't start their then you didn't do any work for them. it's only recently that funi VAs have started doing projects for sentai.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

In that respect it's somewhat similar to the Calder case, which raises another question - where are the authors and editors of the ANN article located?

Christopher Macdonald lives in Quebec (near the Université de Montréal).
Justin Sevakis lives in California
Mike Toole lives in Massachusetts
Lynzee Loveridge lives in Washington

The only two ANN staff that I do not have info about are Hope/Jacob Chapman and Zac Bertschy.
If they were doxed, it might be covered here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/hope-chapman-jacob-jack-chapman-jesuotaku.17209/

However, the dox might be old as they broke up recently.

 

[The Singer Of Songs]

The core of ISWV has no intention of the movement existing beyond the scope of Vic's restoration and compensation for his undue loss due to illegal defamation against his character and interference with his contracts.

Rekieta Law YouTube channel belongs to Nick Rekieta, not you. He can do with it as he please.

The YouTube channels involved with ISWV are not headed towards anything different than what they are already experiencing. I don't know where you're inventing your information from. YF, TUG, and Ren are embroiled in a CG battle which has existed for over a year now. If anything, the suspension of Ren and Spidey have quieted things down a bit and forced the latter two to be more careful. With that said, Ren had just recently been suspended yet again (approximately two hours prior to the time of this writing).

You seem to be blowing smoke where there is no fire.

Well, there's also other things that are coming out of this: Hero Hei is likely in talks of working on a competitor or replacement to Anime News Network. Senpai and Supergirl...I'm not sure what will become of them, but I wouldn't put it past that they end up doing investigative reporting for an organization similar in style to Project Veritas, but involving the Weeb community.

Once Vic's situation is done, Whatever ISWV movement folk are left over will transition into Weeb Wars work, or potentially moving over to Todd and whoever else is being railroaded.

That's it.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Todd's situation might be settled faster than Vic's since there are presumably less people involved.

 

[TheClappening]

I don't think Marchi has done anything for sentai. for a long time sentai was the bottom of the barrel for VAs, if you didn't start their then you didn't do any work for them. it's only recently that funi VAs have started doing projects for sentai.

I think Marchi's first Sentai dub was Brynhildr In The Darkness, back in 2015. I also want to say I've heard her in other Sentai projects but I can't name names. Or I might be an idiot and that's the only Sentai thing she's done.

Sentai's been improving the last few years, thankfully. They've gotten some new talent that are doing well, and they've even done some simuldub-esque releases that Funimation is cornering the market on.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

@mindlessobserver Can you add a link to Perfection's thread to the bottom of the OP?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/xavier...tion-paragon-perfection-perfectionsama.55776/

Thank you.

 

[AnOminous]

It'd take quite a bit of evidence-gathering to actually prove who talked to whom, of course, which is why it probably wouldn't make sense to sue them just yet. But that evidence could turn up.

The important consideration to a case in Texas is what the Texas Supreme Court thinks about these cases, and it addressed all of them in a recent case, TV AZTECA v. Ruiz (2016). That case also discusses Texas cases such as Michiana (also discussed in Meyer v. Waid as both the plaintiff and defendant cite it), SCOTUS cases like Walden v. Fiore interpreting Calder (and arguably weakening it), and states the current Texas interpretation of jurisdiction.

 

[Kosher Salt]

The important consideration to a case in Texas is what the Texas Supreme Court thinks about these cases, and it addressed all of them in a recent case, TV AZTECA v. Ruiz (2016). That case also discusses Texas cases such as Michiana (also discussed in Meyer v. Waid as both the plaintiff and defendant cite it), SCOTUS cases like Walden v. Fiore interpreting Calder (and arguably weakening it), and states the current Texas interpretation of jurisdiction.

That's an interesting case and has a lot of similarities, but one aspect is missing from it, and that's the conspiracy aspect. Let's suppose that we have evidence to prove that ANN made contact with Texas residents and conspired with them to write the defamatory article (there were a few tweets that strongly suggested this, at least). Couldn't they be conducting activities in Texas by this fact alone?

 

[AnOminous]

That's an interesting case and has a lot of similarities, but one aspect is missing from it, and that's the conspiracy aspect. Let's suppose that we have evidence to prove that ANN made contact with Texas residents and conspired with them to write the defamatory article (there were a few tweets that strongly suggested this, at least). Couldn't they be conducting activities in Texas by this fact alone?

Maybe. You'd have to prove that, though.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Christopher Macdonald lives in Quebec (near the Université de Montréal).
Justin Sevakis lives in California
Mike Toole lives in Massachusetts
Lynzee Loveridge lives in Washington

The only two ANN staff that I do not have info about are Hope/Jacob Chapman and Zac Bertschy.
If they were doxed, it might be covered here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/hope-chapman-jacob-jack-chapman-jesuotaku.17209/

However, the dox might be old as they broke up recently.

Hope and Zac were residents of California for most of the past few years. I believe currently Zack is still at the same address. Hope/Jacob may be living under a bridge somewhere, but it is probably a California Highway Bridge.

 

[Far Queue]

Maybe. You'd have to prove that, though.

I suppose they could try to fish for it in the depositions even if they don't have solid proof. After five hours of all manner of questions and potentially getting politely reminded a few times that you're under oath and shown some evidence to suggest you might have misremembered that previous statement just now, almost anyone will probably slip and give out information that the other counsel didn't already have.

Any reason to drag them to Texas though other than to make them suffer? It's probably more of a hassle to start a new suit in Canada specifically for them, but I think Nick at least knows a paralegal up there.

 

[ZN 322]

While this doesn't involve Vic it does involve Funimation. It looks like they are getting sued by someone else. It's going to be hard to defend 2 different cases.

Though it might not amount to much since the company suing them is more than likely a patent troll.

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/...t-infringement-involving-funimationnow/84052/

 

[Jaimas]

I have yet to confirm it, but a rumor going around is that Funimation's current head is the former head of Crunchyroll.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I have yet to confirm it, but a rumor going around is that Funimation's current head is the former head of Crunchyroll.

No that's been confirmed. I think he was Crunchyroll's COO for the past few years.

 

[JosephTX]

The obvious case is Keeton v. Hustler. That involved the obviously broad circulation magazine named in the case and was brought in New Hampshire and the wide publication of the magazine was the only real basis for jurisdiction. I don't think ANN is that widely published. It's certainly available in every state but just being on the Internet doesn't confer jurisdiction everywhere.

The other question is the Texas long arm statute. Texas has an expansive long arm statute and the only limits to it are the due process clause of the U.S. Constitution. This looks like a case where the Texas Supreme Court looked at it recently: TV Azteca v. Ruiz, 490 S.W.3d 29 (2016). It's actually about a TV station in Mexico that had a signal strong enough to reach Texas and allegedly aired defamatory material about Texas residents, but that alone wasn't sufficient for jurisdiction. However, other activities of the station constituting personal availment were.

I'd guess there would have to be more of a jurisdictional hook than the mere defamation of Texas citizens by an Internet site that (like all other Internet sites) is available in Texas.

You're misreading the case, the Texas Surpreme Court rejected it because the case involved a Mexican company making statements in Mexico about a Texas resident (who was a Mexican National), about that resident's activities in Mexico and Brazil (during which time the plaintiff was a Mexican resident), and used only Mexican and Brazilian sources thus failing to meet the requirements of Calder.

How ever ANN's story was directed at a Texas resident, for Texas activities using Texan sources thus clearly meeting the requirements of Calder, to which the defendants actually invoked 3 seperate Federal 5th Circuit Court (TX-AR-LA) cases to show them out of Texas jurisdiction but confirm ANN is fully within the Jurisdiction of Texas.

 

[Medicated]

Most of the PULL thread now is shitting on YellowFlash and the other grifters, because if they link them by association to Nick, Ty and Vic, they all look bad. It's just so sad and pathetic reading the thread.

 

[Tipsy Tea Cup]

Most of the PULL thread now is shitting on YellowFlash and the other grifters, because if they link them by association to Nick, Ty and Vic, they all look bad. It's just so sad and pathetic reading the thread.


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Visiting PULL on the internet is the equivalent of visiting Wal-Mart in real life. You get to see where all of the special people gather.

 

[TheClappening]

I have yet to confirm it, but a rumor going around is that Funimation's current head is the former head of Crunchyroll.

The new General Manager is an ex-CR exec, yes.

Visiting PULL on the internet is the equivalent of visiting Wal-Mart in real life. You get to see where all of the special people gather.

I've noticed, comparing KF to PULL, while, sure, both sites shit on people (KickVic for KF, ISWV for PULL), KF actually likes to cite legal precedents and documents. All PULL is "Vic is pedo lul" while on KF it's "Toye is a moron lul, and here are the three case laws explaining why."