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[Zero Day Defense]

But wait there's more!
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"Nick might be a good man but he disrespects the profession, misinforms everyone, and also he's stealing money from you for himself"

he caught the Shane

To be quite frank, that's 7000 Euros more than Vic will get, even if he wins the 1 million dollar in damages from MoRon, it's unenforcable and in the end he gets jackshit.
Also do not forget Kachelmann made a comeback and is in present TV, Media again and doing quite well financially.

Vic? I highly doubt that Vic will ever work as a VA again, Rooster Teeth, Funi and so on are all part of the SJW mob, to think that anyone of these outlets will rehire him again, is naive at best.
And don't even think that MoRon will stop with their defamation, they most possibly won't do it themselves, that's the future job of shit heels like Shane and Marzgurl.

At the end of the day Vic has won a pyrrhic victory and still has lost a successful carreer.

The minimum damages set for this case is 1 million. If he wins, he'll likely get more than that if the work he lost can be appraised for that much.

The damages are also effectively enforceable by lien. Worst case scenario, Rial and co. walk around sippin' lien for potentially the rest of their lives. Funimation will have to pay those damages because they obviously can.

Vic also still retained work as a VA during this controversy (e.g. he still was voicing Rohan in DiU until they finished, weeks after the controversy broke). It's been said that the Los Angeles VA circuit is far less batshit insane than the Houston VA circuit (what a twist!), so while it's unclear in the meantime, it would seem his prospects to begin with aren't completely plugged up by these bad actors. To reiterate: there are more dubbing companies than Funimation.

Also, have you seen the lines that Vic has been drawing at cons despite the damage done to his career?

Should Vic win on the defamation charges (and given that they're inherent to the very cut-and-dry TI charges, it would at least appear that it's very likely that despite the general difficulty of a defamation case, because of how easy the opposition made it for him, he'd win), that would be a critical blow to Funimation's credibility. It'd certainly be a blow to Rial and Marchi's credibility, and they'd almost certainly be let loose by Funimation for being such a liability. That they'd be let loose by the company that issued the statement implying Vic was let go for substantiated harassment allegations (to say nothing of the retractions they'll likely be made to say) would be in effect to say that they'd been blowing smoke for months. This is by far the strongest way that Vic would be exonerated in the public eye.

Something that works in tandem with this, and could otherwise work independent of it should Vic lose the defamation charges, are the actual results of discovery. If the only reason that he loses the defamation charges is on technicality (i.e. the discovery results effectively exonerate him by means of showing that Rial and company were truly unable to substantiate their claims either at all or given the present evidence), then he's still largely exonerated.

What happens in discovery specifically, and what happens in court overall, are by themselves secondary to the effort of Vic's fanbase to bring these details to the public eye and openly show support for him, so that they can show these companies and cons that he's not the liability that an actual serial sexual harasser/assaulter would be, and that the people brigading against them are a true minority. That much has been expressed by Rackets and has been demonstrated with KC.

 

[Paddy O' Furniture]

IMO. Barring cases of legitimate sexual assault, which should be pursued through proper channels first and foremost, most women aren't ok with baseless #metoo-ing. It only ends up hurting other women who'd never do such a thing in the long run especially for those who work in male dominated positions or male dominated work places because why would any man take a female underling under their wing with the risks that 'listen and believe' bring? when they could mentor another man with almost no chance of that happening.

If anyone is aware of how stupid the #MeToo movement is, it is women, just by understanding the catty/mean/vindictive/emotionally vicious way we can be from being born/raised female.

Spoiler: A bit o' PL

I work in a male dominated field and have seen the effects of this bullshit movement personally. It affects my ability to be picked for advancement and to develop camaraderie with my male co-workers. For years I had no problem settling in as 'one of the guys' but now anyone new is super wary and if I go to different work sites it's the same. It's given male employees a wariness of female employees and that their harmless jokes might be taken out of context or completely blown out of proportion, not to mention most of the male employees are no longer ok with working alone with a female co-worker.

My coworker and a third additonal one joined in who is also a woman, all reiterated those points. It brings down everyone to listen and believe, and that's why a bunch of idiots going after someone they called a friend has shown such an outpouring of support for Vic. People aren't as stupid as they like to think they are. Most people want to see evidence of claims and make up their own minds.

I mentioned to them that if any of these complaints against Vic had any merit over the past two decades, there would be police reports. The third woman did that clap-arm-outstrech thing and said THANK YOU! It's refreshing to see sense in people outside of the weird spheres of the internet we inhabit.

 

[Monkey Prick]

To be quite frank, that's 7000 Euros more than Vic will get, even if he wins the 1 million dollar in damages from MoRon, it's unenforcable and in the end he gets jackshit.
Also do not forget Kachelmann made a comeback and is in present TV, Media again and doing quite well financially.

Vic? I highly doubt that Vic will ever work as a VA again, Rooster Teeth, Funi and so on are all part of the SJW mob, to think that anyone of these outlets will rehire him again, is naive at best.
And don't even think that MoRon will stop with their defamation, they most possibly won't do it themselves, that's the future job of shit heels like Shane and Marzgurl.

At the end of the day Vic has won a pyrrhic victory and still has lost a successful carreer.

I have a feeling that once this is all over and Vic's name is in the clear he'll be getting work everywhere but Texas, which sucks because he moved back there recently. But who knows what that future holds, none of us have a crystal ball.

 

[Stoneheart]

You can accuse a man of rape, take everything from him (even his freedom) and pay 7000 euros for that.

Hey, he could have ended up in an insane asylum for half a decade like Mollath .
Our system isnt good with stuff like that.

 

[Pixis]

We'll probably get some more blather about not wanting to spread non-public information before trial, if that's the case.

Part of me is thinking, the longer they go without saying anything, they're probably going to hold off until Nick is able to go over what was said in their depos so they can point the finger. Especially if there's nothing of substance from Vic's deposition they can use to try further smearing him. They're just that petty to do something like this.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

My coworker and a third additonal one joined in who is also a woman, all reiterated those points. It brings down everyone to listen and believe, and that's why a bunch of idiots going after someone they called a friend has shown such an outpouring of support for Vic. People aren't as stupid as they like to think they are. Most people want to see evidence of claims and make up their own minds.

I mentioned to them that if any of these complaints against Vic had any merit over the past two decades, there would be police reports. The third woman did that clap-arm-outstrech thing and said THANK YOU! It's refreshing to see sense in people outside of the weird spheres of the internet we inhabit.

Maybe we didn't get D4C'd into Clown World, after all.

Spoiler

>inb4 Rial and co. do something extremely exceptional that convinces me beyond all doubt that we actually D4C'd into Super Clown World

Spoiler

for the NESS

 

[OldAmishRenegade]

MoRon spent three grand to have a hired gun ask about Vic’s Star Trek project no one watched and the GFM.

To be fair, the first episode has 2 million views on youtube. But if they wanted to hear Vic talk about it they could have watched literally any recorded convention panel he's been on, since he always spends a good 20 minutes going on and on about it.

 

[AnOminous]

But wait there's more!
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A motherfucking corporate IP lawyer is talking about ethics. Get me the smelling salts.

Seriously this dude needs to jump off a motherfucking bridge. What an absolute smug little cunt.

Cohen is just mad he cant make money dunking on people on youtube for a living. Also is the idiot on the same level as pull still thinking Nick gets anything from the GFM? Does he knows Its setup to an IOALTA (or whatever its spelt) account?

No, the smirking little pussy still thinks it's haram to learn any actual facts about the case before spouting off with absolutely uninformed fucking bullshit.

But you guise are the ones in a cult! Srsly!

Fucking pansy.

 

[N1bbaN3rd]

So.....do we all think that Soye is actually being deposed right now?
Or will LemWAAAGH file a TCPA motion to save him from the Amazons?

 

[Evil Bunny]

Maybe they wanted to know how they achieved more views with their project than CBS's STD. *giggles*

What the HELL was cbs thinking with that name.

I guess we COULD suggest rebranding kiwifarms as Archive Internet Dumb Stuff. That'd be a genius move too. (AIDS)

 

[AnOminous]

The minimum damages set for this case is 1 million. If he wins, he'll likely get more than that if the work he lost can be appraised for that much.

That's the minimum amount in controversy to make the jurisdiction exclusive to District Court, but it doesn't necessarily mean you win that. It's just a plausible enough claim that it gets you into state District Court under the Texas rules. (In Tarrant county the amount is apparently $200,000 but perhaps they wanted to ensure it stayed in a District Court even if the venue was changed. Not sure why exactly, though.)

As a practical matter, I think Vic either wins big on this, though, or not at all, i.e. if he does win it will probably be for well over the minimum.

 

[TardBows]

A motherfucking corporate IP lawyer is talking about ethics. Get me the smelling salts.

Seriously this dude needs to jump off a motherfucking bridge. What an absolute smug little cunt.

Do we necessarily need another Etika for that?

No, the smirking little pussy still thinks it's haram to learn any actual facts about the case before spouting off with absolutely uninformed fucking bullshit.

But you guise are the ones in a cult! Srsly!

Fucking pansy.

I sincerely wish Cohen would visit the farms and read this. He will be wishing he never had said that when he looks at himself in the mirror to find out his face is as much destroyed as his credibility.

 

[Padoru]

Do we necessarily need another Etika for that?

Nah. People were sad about Etika. People would be fucking ecstatic about this cunt.

 

[Beavis]

So.....do we all think that Soye is actually being deposed right now?
Or will LemWAAAGH file a TCPA motion to save him from the Amazons?

It’s almost 11am central time. I imagine we would have heard something from Nick by now if the depo was off.

 

[Hexadecimal]

It’s almost 11am central time. I imagine we would have heard something from Nick by now if the depo was off.

*noon

 

[Paddy O' Furniture]

Do we necessarily need another Etika for that?


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I sincerely wish Cohen would visit the farms and read this. He will be wishing he never had said that when he looks at himself in the mirror to find out his face is as much destroyed as his credibility.

Archive motherfucker, do you use it?

 

[RodgerDodger]

So.....do we all think that Soye is actually being deposed right now?
Or will LemWAAAGH file a TCPA motion to save him from the Amazons?

I thought Monica was today? Ron is tomorrow. We haven’t heard anything, so it is likely all parties showed up, and the TCPA wasn’t dropped. Figure shielding Monica from deposition would have been the main goal of that move. Nobody give a shit about protecting Ron from the bad Amazons. Not even his own lawyers.

 

[mindlessobserver]

And best part is there is still no confidentiality agreement. I am eagerly anticipating some sweet sweet transcripts.

 

[TardBows]

Archive motherfucker, do you use it?

It has already been archived 2 weeks ago, so don't worry.

Akiva Cohen on Twitter: "Got no idea about the case in general. But s…

archived 7 Jun 2019 23:12:48 UTC

archive.fo

 

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To be quite frank, that's 7000 Euros more than Vic will get, even if he wins the 1 million dollar in damages from MoRon, it's unenforcable and in the end he gets jackshit.
Also do not forget Kachelmann made a comeback and is in present TV, Media again and doing quite well financially.

Vic? I highly doubt that Vic will ever work as a VA again, Rooster Teeth, Funi and so on are all part of the SJW mob, to think that anyone of these outlets will rehire him again, is naive at best.
And don't even think that MoRon will stop with their defamation, they most possibly won't do it themselves, that's the future job of shit heels like Shane and Marzgurl.

At the end of the day Vic has won a pyrrhic victory and still has lost a successful carreer.

Unless I misunderstand something, they can go after MoRon, Funimation, and Marchi's bank accounts. If Vic wins, he WILL get paid.

As for Vic working as a VA... Rooster Teeth is dying, and will be shuttled and turned into a shitty merch farm soon enough. Funimation is literally months away from being merged into Sony's other, competently ran Anime studio -- Aniplex. Those two companies are only two out of all the other dubbing studios -- Aniplex, Viz, the video game studios wot pay way more, etc etc. Remember, Viz was dead fucking silent about all this -- they didn't recast him in Jojo. You think MoRonica weren't calling their SJW contacts at Viz trying to get him pushed out?

Yes, the SJWs have undue influence, but they are not the kings of the Anime / Vidya industries they think they are -- otherwise Vic would have been shuttled instantly overnight with NO pushback and they would have happily went on to the next 3 or 4 people in their Broken Staircase list. That's not really what happened.

And yeah, you'll always have little hangers on like Shane the Saliva Shoe Shiner and ex-cheerleaders that have hit the wall like Marzgurl running around playing mean girl bullshit games -- at least until people start beating them in the street for it. But remember, Vic has been dealing with similar little pissants floating around him bitching about how he was SO RUDE not to sign their gay incest child porn. Constantly. For what, 15 years? And he's still one of the most successful voice actors.

If (when) he wins this case, you'll have assblasted SJWs bitching about him behind his back while he will have a legal document saying that the allegations against him were bullshit -- and that they were so bullshit, multiple people got sued and lost for spreading them. That'll be all it takes for most con owners and businesses to work with him again. He moves on to a different company, maybe comes back to Funimation when they're shuttled and become Aniplex South, and life goes on.

For a similar situation, look at Brad Wardel, the CEO of Stardock. Insane SJW cunt pulled a MeToo hoax to try and knife him in the back after she left his company. SJW Game JournoActivists wrote hit pieces about how he was such a horrible Conservative Alt-Right Nazi. Er, I mean, sex criminal. But also a Conservative. Orange Man Bad. It was Her Turn. Believe wammyns. Especially when they accuse Conservatives.

He fought her in court. Won. She had to write an apology letter admitting she was full of shit and get it published. Did so. SJWs still ass blasted about Wardel, doubly so because he won, but no one outside their little hugbox cares because he won and thus everyone knows the SJWs are full of shit.

I predict similar shit with Vic. He wins. SJWs like PenguinTruth bitch and moan until people stop giving them attention for it. Marchi et all cry in private about how it was so unfair that he refused to just lay down and die for them. (This stops the second someone records her and sends it to BHBH, and they drag her back in front of a Judge.) Normies recognize the crazy and the fact that he won in court and give KickVic a wide distance.

So. Yeah. Pyrrhic victory? Maybe. But I think it's more likely that in 6 months it's going to be Marchi and Rial wishing they had never tried any of this shit. They're going to blow through all of their savings in legal fees -- they're up to three different legal teams now and they haven't even gotten to trial yet. Their bosses at Funimation are on the hook for multiple millions of dollars, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. Funimation has been humiliated in front of their new bosses at Sony at literally the worst possible moment. Con owners -- who you know talk to each other -- got to see KickVic blackmail and harass conventions into breaking business contracts only to see Marchi and Rial stab a con in the back anyway with their little card shop thing. And "worse," they got to see those cons that DID stick with Vic have to dedicate entire floors of buildings to handle his line.

I suspect you'll start to see people stop returning Marchi and Rial's calls, and that's before they start up Dragon Ball Super again. 6th Bulma, here we go!