Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

To be quite frank, that's 7000 Euros more than Vic will get, even if he wins the 1 million dollar in damages from MoRon, it's unenforcable and in the end he gets jackshit.
Also do not forget Kachelmann made a comeback and is in present TV, Media again and doing quite well financially.

Vic? I highly doubt that Vic will ever work as a VA again, Rooster Teeth, Funi and so on are all part of the SJW mob, to think that anyone of these outlets will rehire him again, is naive at best.
And don't even think that MoRon will stop with their defamation, they most possibly won't do it themselves, that's the future job of shit heels like Shane and Marzgurl.

At the end of the day Vic has won a pyrrhic victory and still has lost a successful carreer.

Louis C.K. and Charlie Rose both got work after a year when their MeToo moments happened. After a period of time he would be brought back.

As for hiring him back, the backlash will be huge and borderline suicidal to resist.

On the P.R. front: an innocent man proves himself innocent while the companies retain the services of the woman who falsely accused him.

1. "Believe all Victims". Somebody used that attitude to manipulate your companies into ruining a man's life.

2. Any VA is probably thinking "These companies abandoned Vic on baseless accusations. Would they protect me?" So talent will go elsewhere.

3. Keeping Monica would show the world they aren't concerned with Justice, ruining any posing about "equality".

Funimation has Sony and Toei watching this. Any monetary damages would be coming out of Sony's pocket so they are probably fuming about this.

Rooster Teeth timed his firing to to look like this was the cause. Clownfish TV has put the idea in my head that they may have fired him for being conservative. How that interacts with civil rights and Texas law is something I'm wondering.
 
I thought Monica was today? Ron is tomorrow. We haven’t heard anything, so it is likely all parties showed up, and the TCPA wasn’t dropped. Figure shielding Monica from deposition would have been the main goal of that move. Nobody give a shit about protecting Ron from the bad Amazons. Not even his own lawyers.

Other way around. Ron's today. Monica's tomorrow.
 
I just realized something. Looking at the involvement of the CosThots (Pridemore, Skye, etc), anime cons have slowly been dialing down voice actor guests/involvement and ramping UP cosplay guest involvement. I assume this is due to rising costs of VAs. In that lens, it'd make perfect sense that the CosThots are egging this on in hopes that the net result will be exactly what I expect to happen at the end of this. (no matter who wins really) A lot of anime cons will just drop both sides (Rial+Marchi & Vic) simply to avoid the complaints from the other side and as a bonus cut costs. This will lead to ramping up CosThot slots potentially putting more money in their pockets, all while they nod sympathetically to Monica and Jamie about how they got screwed.
 
So. Yeah. Pyrrhic victory? Maybe. But I think it's more likely that in 6 months it's going to be Marchi and Rial wishing they had never tried any of this shit. They're going to blow through all of their savings in legal fees -- they're up to three different legal teams now and they haven't even gotten to trial yet.

Remember most of their maneuvers have been absolutely wasted time and money. Look how much drama they created over the deposition schedules, only to get exactly the same deal Ty had offered them right at the beginning, but minus the confidentiality agreement they fought against tooth and nail only to turn around and try to get back.

Most of their money has been spent spinning their wheels in absolutely futile efforts to keep from being deposed, not even to win the case but just to delay it, and not even delay it very long.

If they were hoping to win on a TCPA, they would have done that right from the outset. As it is, the most they're going to get out of that is an amended pleading.

Funimation is the unknown factor here, because they are especially going to be keen on knocking out the civil conspiracy claim, which is also one of the more sparsely pled claims in the case, and which carries a high burden of proof in any event. My bet is they TCPA that and of the potential defendants, they have the best chance of actually winning such a motion. Win or lose, though, they are in an excellent position to settle favorably, and if they outright win on the civil conspiracy angle, their position is even better.

Without that angle, the bulk of the case against them is one single tweet. It's a really, really bad, dumb tweet, but requires context to be construed as defamatory.

Without that tweet being considered defamatory, and without civil conspiracy, they're looking at most as being vicariously liable for the much dumber acts of the much dumber actors in the case, i.e. Soye Boye, Monica Liar, and Marchi.

This will lead to ramping up CosThot slots potentially putting more money in their pockets, all while they nod sympathetically to Monica and Jamie about how they got screwed.

Are they that smart, though? I know they're cancerous but that would seem too much like planning for these brainless whores.
 
Are they that smart, though? I know they're cancerous but that would seem too much like planning for these brainless whores.
Truthfully, I think they're just gossiping whores, but at this stage, I could believe that a few are relatively happy with the direction it is going and willing to keep greasing the wheels considering that its not (directly) their money or reputation and they do stand to profit off the final result no matter who wins.
 
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Unless I misunderstand something, they can go after MoRon, Funimation, and Marchi's bank accounts. If Vic wins, he WILL get paid.

As for Vic working as a VA... Rooster Teeth is dying, and will be shuttled and turned into a shitty merch farm soon enough. Funimation is literally months away from being merged into Sony's other, competently ran Anime studio -- Aniplex. Those two companies are only two out of all the other dubbing studios -- Aniplex, Viz, the video game studios wot pay way more, etc etc. Remember, Viz was dead fucking silent about all this -- they didn't recast him in Jojo. You think MoRonica weren't calling their SJW contacts at Viz trying to get him pushed out?

Yes, the SJWs have undue influence, but they are not the kings of the Anime / Vidya industries they think they are -- otherwise Vic would have been shuttled instantly overnight with NO pushback and they would have happily went on to the next 3 or 4 people in their Broken Staircase list. That's not really what happened.

And yeah, you'll always have little hangers on like Shane the Saliva Shoe Shiner and ex-cheerleaders that have hit the wall like Marzgurl running around playing mean girl bullshit games -- at least until people start beating them in the street for it. But remember, Vic has been dealing with similar little pissants floating around him bitching about how he was SO RUDE not to sign their gay incest child porn. Constantly. For what, 15 years? And he's still one of the most successful voice actors.

If (when) he wins this case, you'll have assblasted SJWs bitching about him behind his back while he will have a legal document saying that the allegations against him were bullshit -- and that they were so bullshit, multiple people got sued and lost for spreading them. That'll be all it takes for most con owners and businesses to work with him again. He moves on to a different company, maybe comes back to Funimation when they're shuttled and become Aniplex South, and life goes on.

For a similar situation, look at Brad Wardel, the CEO of Stardock. Insane SJW cunt pulled a MeToo hoax to try and knife him in the back after she left his company. SJW Game JournoActivists wrote hit pieces about how he was such a horrible Conservative Alt-Right Nazi. Er, I mean, sex criminal. But also a Conservative. Orange Man Bad. It was Her Turn. Believe wammyns. Especially when they accuse Conservatives.

He fought her in court. Won. She had to write an apology letter admitting she was full of shit and get it published. Did so. SJWs still ass blasted about Wardel, doubly so because he won, but no one outside their little hugbox cares because he won and thus everyone knows the SJWs are full of shit.

I predict similar shit with Vic. He wins. SJWs like PenguinTruth bitch and moan until people stop giving them attention for it. Marchi et all cry in private about how it was so unfair that he refused to just lay down and die for them. (This stops the second someone records her and sends it to BHBH, and they drag her back in front of a Judge.) Normies recognize the crazy and the fact that he won in court and give KickVic a wide distance.

So. Yeah. Pyrrhic victory? Maybe. But I think it's more likely that in 6 months it's going to be Marchi and Rial wishing they had never tried any of this shit. They're going to blow through all of their savings in legal fees -- they're up to three different legal teams now and they haven't even gotten to trial yet. Their bosses at Funimation are on the hook for multiple millions of dollars, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. Funimation has been humiliated in front of their new bosses at Sony at literally the worst possible moment. Con owners -- who you know talk to each other -- got to see KickVic blackmail and harass conventions into breaking business contracts only to see Marchi and Rial stab a con in the back anyway with their little card shop thing. And "worse," they got to see those cons that DID stick with Vic have to dedicate entire floors of buildings to handle his line.

I suspect you'll start to see people stop returning Marchi and Rial's calls, and that's before they start up Dragon Ball Super again. 6th Bulma, here we go!

Way too optimistic here. It takes more than surviving a #MeToo and proving the harpies are liars. Even if you reduce the Anarchy Sisters and FUNi to ash; there will always be cons/companies suicidally dedicated to believing women and/or "victims"; possibly this horse shit will rise again in 2-5 years. Someone who has a 15 year whisper campaign against them will always be a target/considered a possible sex pest.
 
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He looks like a z-list fan film/fiction type of guy from his imdb page if this is really him.

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It's worth noting that Axanar was a rival to Star Trek Continues. I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think Axanar tried to monetize their fan film, which then fucked everyone else (including Vic) who wanted to do labors-of-love non-monetized fan films.

There is some bad blood there. (Timestamp 11:40)

EDIT: Random article covering that lawsuit.

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TLDR: Alec is taking the opportunity to kick a rival while he's down and to alleviate the burn from being told by Paramount to fuck off.
 
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Exact same line about the GFM and Nick that so many other Johnny-come-latelies are tossing around. Wonder which moron is so gracious to provide this dude some info on Vic?
 
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I'd like to see that investigation, too. It's too bad that neither Ron nor Monica has been able to produce it. Woops.

Side note: Tweets and posts from random third parties like this that say things like "the investigation that lead to them firing Vic" are so fucking great, because they totally destroy the argument that funi could make that their tweet didn't actually mean that, and a reasonable person wouldn't think so. All Ty and co. have to do is show all of these and say "nuh uh."
 
Exact same line about the GFM and Nick that so many other Johnny-come-latelies are tossing around. Wonder which moron is so gracious to provide this dude some info on Vic?

Hurr durrrrr everything will come out in discovery. No shit you cock gargling shit monkey. We know that already.
 
Haven't seen Alec Peters pop up in awhile. He's still a salty bitch over Vic's star trek fan project going to completion while his gets stuck in legal hell.

I remember he also had an honest to god dating profile on a sick fuck BDSM website where he wanted to find a QT to make sweet sweet torture on. Been digging around for it, but its buried somewhere inexplicable in this thread or the old multimedia one.
 
Haven't seen Alec Peters pop up in awhile. He's still a salty bitch over Vic's star trek fan project going to completion while his gets stuck in legal hell.

I remember he also had an honest to god dating profile on a sick fuck BDSM website where he wanted to find a QT to make sweet sweet torture on. Been digging around for it, but its buried somewhere inexplicable in this thread or the old multimedia one.
god it makes sense know, sick degenerate fucks are projecting their degeneracy onto vic it all makes sense know
they hate vic because vic isn't like them.
 
god it makes sense know, sick degenerate fucks are projecting their degeneracy onto vic it all makes sense know
they hate vic because vic isn't like them.
I don't have the archive since it was literally just a rando, but remember the one kv dude on twitter who full stop said that he knows for a fact Vic is guilty because his status gives him an opportunity to do heinous things, and if he were Vic, he would have taken it? Of the people who don't have something to directly gain out of this on the other side, this makes up a majority of the rest.
 
It's worth noting that Axanar was a rival to Star Trek Continues. I'm fuzzy on the details, but I think Axanar tried to monetize their fan film, which then fucked everyone else (including Vic) who wanted to do labors-of-love non-monetized fan films.

There is some bad blood there. (Timestamp 11:40)

EDIT: Random article covering that lawsuit.

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TLDR: Alec is taking the opportunity to kick a rival while he's down and to alleviate the burn from being told by Paramount to fuck off.
Pretty much this, Peters raised over $1 million from Trek fans to make a fan film and then paid himself a salary and flew around the world to conventions to "promote" the film, but never made the fucking film. Both very sad and hilarious at the same time. I strongly recommend this entertaining thread that covered this shitshow: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cbs-paramount-sues-to-stop-axanar.278077/

Peters has had a jealous hate boner for Vic for years since people actually like Vic and his fan series was completed and highly praised. If you dig around on google you'll find plenty of old message board posts from Peters whining about Vic and STC. He's even worse than Soye on the embarrassing scale.
 
I don't have the archive since it was literally just a rando, but remember the one kv dude on twitter who full stop said that he knows for a fact Vic is guilty because his status gives him an opportunity to do heinous things, and if he were Vic, he would have taken it? Of the people who don't have something to directly gain out of this on the other side, this makes up a majority of the rest.
so sex pest thinks vic is guilty because they done it themselves. looking on twitter when people accuse vic of doing horrible things i go through their history
and find out that they're even done worse things than what vic is accused of.the majority of kickvic are people who actually never liked vic
and want to see him and his career die.so when this accusations started coming out those who didn't like vic started to jump on the bandwagon for some
brownie points on the internet .
 
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Haven't seen Alec Peters pop up in awhile. He's still a salty bitch over Vic's star trek fan project going to completion while his gets stuck in legal hell.

I remember he also had an honest to god dating profile on a sick fuck BDSM website where he wanted to find a QT to make sweet sweet torture on. Been digging around for it, but its buried somewhere inexplicable in this thread or the old multimedia one.

@Jub-Jub said they found the pics and posted them here, I'm trying to look for them.

EDIT: Got 'em.

The hint i was talking about before was dropped on YF stream, I'm guessing they restarted on TUG because they said something they shouldn't have. But I got you fam, this is the person posting the docs.
 
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I thought Monica was today? Ron is tomorrow. We haven’t heard anything, so it is likely all parties showed up, and the TCPA wasn’t dropped. Figure shielding Monica from deposition would have been the main goal of that move. Nobody give a shit about protecting Ron from the bad Amazons. Not even his own lawyers.
I looked back through earlier posts. I was going off of those, and they all stated that the deposition order was Vic first, then Ron, then Monica.
 
I looked back through earlier posts. I was going off of those, and they all stated that the deposition order was Vic first, then Ron, then Monica.
yeah that is accurate. The Monica First order is partially my fault as i got it mixed up until this morning when i learned the correct order
 
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