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What was the "roast comic" thing that came out a while back? I think it showedMags as just a moustache, and a black guy as a troll?
 
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I'm currently mulling over the whole Comicsgate thing for a while- I don't get excited about comics any more, I gave up some time around 2008 and I only go and by the collected editions of older stories.

But just a few thoughts...

Am I to believe that some coughing former Jarhead, sitting in his car with a box of McNuggets and using a mobile phone camera to flip through a comic and critique it can cause this much insane hysteria in the comics industry?

This leads me to believe a few things. If I'm wrong, call me out on it. And if you have another opinion, please share it with me.

-The comics industry is in dire straits (and the number show it), and this kind of critique puts a spotlight on how far it's fallen

-The industry is in dire straits, and the people in it know they'll be getting released soon, and people like Meyer and other independents that loathe the current industry aren't alone and are more in touch with what the paying fanbase wants- and those critics can easily become competition

-The industry is hurting so bad, they need an exagerrated boogieman in order to use "Activist Marketing" ("Only bigots hate this product, give me money for it and it fights bigots!").

Thoughts?
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If the CCO of Marvel Comics is taking the time out of his day to complain about a Boomer making dumb comic videos, there might be a problem. Quesada spent a weekend, if not two talking about this. He even knew about YellowFlash who had maybe 13k subs at most. I don't think I've seen such a concentrated effort from any industry to take out anyone this small.

Well good jobs guys, you boogieman'd a literal who into crowdfunding circles around people who've been in the industry for years
 
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I agree with most but the "new, young & talented" crop of "Pros" have no love for the medium as well as being egotistic pricks. It's plainly obvious most do comics as a stepping stool for movies/tv/animation. Hell, the prime example of how blatant this exact problem is, just got a tv show for a book that sells less than 1K issues.
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I'm aware of who Maggs is, because I remember seeing those tweets when they came out. And I've seen quite a few more, and I couldn't help but wonder why this exceptional troon had such an inflated view of itself. And I kept trying to find something they'd created that I was familiar with, and all that came to mind was 'that shit that you find in the budget rack bagged together with ten other comics for three bucks'. And looking through some of the material, it seems like it's just overpriced birdcage liner. I wouldn't roll up one of those books to beat an ugly dog, much less read it.

I mean, those sales numbers are sad. If Maggs were a musician, her audience would be a few close friends, parents and siblings, and some folks that confused the name with a more popular musician and just decided to stick around for the bar's drink specials. Those are... really fucking sad numbers.

I'm no expert, but I know for a fact that top titles right now have sale numbers that got D-list books cancelled in the 1990's during the comics collapse. They're literally doing worse than they were when the industry went to absolute shit, and I think the only reason that Marvel book IP's aren't being piecemeal-leased out to independent writers is because Disney is keeping them around to squeeze every dollar they can out of the movies- and I honestly think that eventually, Disney will sever the comics side- even though it seems like every 'comic pro' is working from their apartment (or their friend's couch) and emailing in their work.

I'm still very confused about the industry's tactic of attacking their audience/customers. No matter what industry you're in, this has never been an effective tactic. A lot of these comic professionals seem to think their work is their personal hobby and they aren't beholden to the opinions of paying customers.

We've watched these irrational hacks smear their own feces on their faces, call it war paint, and then proclaim we're cowards for not wanting to high-five them for it.

Soon, I think the entire Comic Book Movie craze is going to end, just like the zombie movie and WW2 movie crazes. And when that's all over and done with, I'm pretty sure this industry is dead. Spider Man will be Betty Boop, just some old character that was a thing back in the day, now you can get Wal-Mart floormats for your car with his image.

Hopefully, there will be talent out there that's watched this all go to shit and won't let our children down.
 
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I'm aware of who Maggs is, because I remember seeing those tweets when they came out. And I've seen quite a few more, and I couldn't help but wonder why this exceptional troon had such an inflated view of itself. And I kept trying to find something they'd created that I was familiar with, and all that came to mind was 'that shit that you find in the budget rack bagged together with ten other comics for three bucks'. And looking through some of the material, it seems like it's just overpriced birdcage liner. I wouldn't roll up one of those books to beat an ugly dog, much less read it.

I mean, those sales numbers are sad. If Maggs were a musician, her audience would be a few close friends, parents and siblings, and some folks that confused the name with a more popular musician and just decided to stick around for the bar's drink specials. Those are... really fucking sad numbers.

I'm no expert, but I know for a fact that top titles right now have sale numbers that got D-list books cancelled in the 1990's during the comics collapse. They're literally doing worse than they were when the industry went to absolute shit, and I think the only reason that Marvel book IP's aren't being piecemeal-leased out to independent writers is because Disney is keeping them around to squeeze every dollar they can out of the movies- and I honestly think that eventually, Disney will sever the comics side- even though it seems like every 'comic pro' is working from their apartment (or their friend's couch) and emailing in their work.

I'm still very confused about the industry's tactic of attacking their audience/customers. No matter what industry you're in, this has never been an effective tactic. A lot of these comic professionals seem to think their work is their personal hobby and they aren't beholden to the opinions of paying customers.

We've watched these irrational hacks smear their own feces on their faces, call it war paint, and then proclaim we're cowards for not wanting to high-five them for it.

Soon, I think the entire Comic Book Movie craze is going to end, just like the zombie movie and WW2 movie crazes. And when that's all over and done with, I'm pretty sure this industry is dead. Spider Man will be Betty Boop, just some old character that was a thing back in the day, now you can get Wal-Mart floormats for your car with his image.

Hopefully, there will be talent out there that's watched this all go to shit and won't let our children down.
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Honestly post Endgame, I’m pretty burned out on caped movies. Went to see Spider-Boy to see if it would be good enough to interest me into continuing. It didn’t, for once I happened to agree with YaBoi on a movie review:

If Marvel Studios wanted to keep burnout from happening they should have put everything they could into making the movie immediately after Endgame amazing/spectacular, they failed in my book.
 
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Look at this fattie tweeting food pics while in Italy. She probably thinks she's one of the "cool Americans" on vacay over there, oblivious to the people that point and laugh at her when her back is turned.
 

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Christians and especially Catholics can be unpredictably weird about Jesus humor. For example Monty Python’s Life of Brian has been branded as blasphemy by the Catholic Church... but you will never find an English speaking Catholic Priest that isn’t letter perfect on every frame and line of it, plus all the rest of the Python catalog. They generally have good instincts regarding informed satire of some of the absurdities of organized religion vs hipster douchenozzels flinging shit at them. (Many Catholic Priests like South Parks Father Maxxy) I think they feel second coming is rather obviously the second sort.
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Part of that is the inherent value of the satirical work. Monty Python is funny, South Park is funny, Second Coming is ... a thing that exists, if I'm going to be as charitable as I can. To write a good satire you have to know the thing you are satirizes, so its no wonder that people that are into that thing like good satires. They can look at it and go "Yeah, that's 100% true, heh". They don't have to agree with the satire, but they can enjoy it. This stuff is someone who barely understands what it is that they are mocking, so a person who does know a lot about it reads it and just stops every few sentences to frown and go "That's not even right, what are you talking about." It's not even funny to look at, its just annoying to have to correct the argument before you can start arguing about it.
 
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Part of that is the inherent value of the satirical work. Monty Python is funny, South Park is funny, Second Coming is ... a thing that exists, if I'm going to be as charitable as I can. To write a good satire you have to know the thing you are satirizes, so its no wonder that people that are into that thing like good satires. They can look at it and go "Yeah, that's 100% true, heh". They don't have to agree with the satire, but they can enjoy it. This stuff is someone who barely understands what it is that they are mocking, so a person who does know a lot about it reads it and just stops every few sentences to frown and go "That's not even right, what are you talking about." It's not even funny to look at, its just annoying to have to correct the argument before you can start arguing about it.
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You're calling it The Big Bang Theory, aren't you?
 
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War Campaign engaging in self-inflicted wounds spamming Jeremy Griggs i.e. Geeks n' Gamers with Doug TenNapel hate on Twitter. Jeremy is not the one to fuck with. Not at all.

There are 100+ parody Jeremy accounts who can join in on the bloodbath.

Cherries & WC in a race to the bottom of autism.
 
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Look at this fattie tweeting food pics while in Italy. She probably thinks she's one of the "cool Americans" on vacay over there, oblivious to the people that point and laugh at her when her back is turned.
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The fat American eating a huge bowl of fatty food while taking a picture of it (as if nobody already knows you are fat) is pretty much the stereotype of fatass Americans. Thanks for contributing to the Amerilard stereotype, Orca.
 
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The purity spiral reaches the fandom menace. WC spergs attack Jeremy G+G for plugging Doug Tennapel. Cherries defending Jeremy. Jeremy mentions Ro's tasteless comments about the now deceased Ellen. Grab the popcorn.
 

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