Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Questioning_Huggers]

ill be honest, im more excited to hear Amazon prime depo than Ty's. But she gonna have a hard one to top. Asking Ron toye (Are you a pedophile?) made me burst out laughing for minutes.

Ain't ashamed to say I did a legitimate spittake when I heard him ask that. Totally worth it.

Quick question: who does? I know Vic has been praised A LOT for being Ed, but is he on the level of “If Vic doesn’t voice Ed, we riot” to the average FMA fan?

Yes. Vic is so beloved as Ed, that FMA and Brotherhood are on that elite list of anime where 90% of weebs will recommend you watch it in English (along with Cowboy Beebop), and the 10% that are hardcore Subtitle Master Race about anime would not immediately attempt to kill themselves within the first five minutes of watching a dubbed episode.

Vic Mignogna IS Ed.

Well there she is

Her eyebrows are worse than her eternal Husband-to-never-be. What the actual fuck? Why didn't she ask him to fix that for her? And why does she look like she could be a background gang member in The Lost Boys? Was she given makeup advice by the CosThot brigade?

 

[ObeseScreamingBlackMan]

Getting a picture with OPL does that to you.

That’s my nigga Chris, not even hoverhanding like the alpha Chad he is.

I don’t get out of work until 11pm Standard Minnesota Law Boomer Time. I’m probably going to set a speed record getting home from work tonight. After watching my first Rackets stream on Saturday I’m hooked.

 

[A Watchful Ghost]

I don’t think Ben Singer and company are ones to chase trends really, or at least not recently. I haven’t seen any of those guys talk about Vic at all. Also, their battles are a lot of fan requests.

Tbh, I find it hard to even consider them to be in the loop, or even aware of what happened outside of the usual reunions they have in close doors. I can believe the animation division to be aware, and even have a say on what happened. But the DB division has been the more distant of all of the close door personel that has remained to do its own thing.

 

[AnOminous]

yeah even mediocre looking twins can probably get a few D-C tier celebrity to bang just on the twin fantasy.

Two 4s add up to an 8.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

lemon party's mocked the bataan death march, and used an ethnic slur, I wouldn't worry about offending him.

The bataan death march? Seriously?

Are we... laboring under the idea that Catholics (and Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and maybe Methodists) are adherents of a religion sufficiently distinct from what's commonly understood to be Christianity?

>these branches that are directly descended from the Apostles and Jesus Christ are false, but my weird Protestant denomination founded in the mid 19th century is obviously what Jesus wanted!

I think he's talking about how Vic's denomination has no priests.

I don’t think Ben Singer and company are ones to chase trends really, or at least not recently. I haven’t seen any of those guys talk about Vic at all. Also, their battles are a lot of fan requests.

Oh they do chase trends. However, they usually plan by about a year. No way could they have anticipated this.

UNLESS THEY WERE TOLD OF COURSE! DUN DUN DUN!

Nah I'm joking.

 

[Allanon]

If I remember correctly, it was because the series itself (The anime adaption of AoT) was still pretty fresh and hadn't even finished its first initial airing in Japan. This negates their whole "support the official release!" shilling since there literally was no way to actually do this and I specifically remember people in the comments calling them out on this, especially since they were using raw TV rip footage that you would find pirated online.

I also have something to add in regards to TFS being butt-buddies with Sabat.

Initially when Battle of Gods was the hottest new thing in all of Dragon Ball, there were two versions. The first is what was initially seen in theaters during its run and another released further in the year of an extended TV version which fixed a lot of the awkward pacing issues present in the film. It is this latter version that Sabat admits he had trouble trying to find and was so much of a sad boomer that he had to ask TFS if they had a copy they could share with him.

Now why would Sabat be asking for a pirated copy of something like this?

Well, it actually is quite simple.

I can't speak with regards to non-DB material but I know for a damn fact that Sabat relies or used to rely on tv rips of Dragon Ball Super for "pre-dubbing" purposes. What this was is that he would use the pirated footage and essentially schedule recording sessions for voice actors with said footage as a way to circumvent having to wait on Toei to send Funimation the necessary materials for official dubbing. Basically all they would need do at that point is get everything aligned properly with the audio they've a;ready recorded to the officially provided footage and soundtrack barring some minor adjustments here and there.

Oh, nice catch. I don't follow Sabat's twitter that closely, and all that information came from a timeline I'd assembled ages ago purely due to being a fan of both Sabat and TFS, not a dive for fresh info. As I think I've mentioned before, I was not a Vic fan pre-WW, though thanks to the previous attempt to kill him during the Rin fiasco I knew enough to know he was innocent, but I was a Sabat fan. There's some irony in jealousy motivating these people to lose their existing fans and cause Vic to gain more. I'm almost certain that lines up with some Aesop or another.

Also, yes, I recall it being something like that, but I admittedly never followed AoT when it was new. The sad thing about that was them being too fast to jump on it now blocks them from ever doing it, when it would now be safe for them to. But to be fair their Armin and Connie voices were awful, if I'm recalling correctly.

Are we... laboring under the idea that Catholics (and Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and maybe Methodists) are adherents of a religion sufficiently distinct from what's commonly understood to be Christianity?

Their split is like a thousand years old now. It's not usually looked all that fondly upon to lump them together.

Oh please, they know exactly what they're doing. They think they can ride the KickVic (lol, this guy is such a better voice for Ed, #RedubFMAwithoutVic) vs ISWV (you fucking losers fired him and are rubbing this in his face like childish cunts) to get massive views. Likes/dislikes dont matter compared to the views from such a hot topic.

True, it might get them more views, but it is a gamble. If they come off as one or the other side somehow now that they put themselves in that sphere, they're going to lose fans (moreso if they indicate they're KV)

 

[feral cat #6385]

Well there she is

What's up with the drawn on eyebrows?

She has the Jawline Ron wishes he had.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

>these branches that are directly descended from the Apostles and Jesus Christ are false, but my weird Protestant denomination founded in the mid 19th century is obviously what Jesus wanted!

We're on the internet, and it's the Current Year + 4-- nobody knows how Christian traditions work, everybody thinks the Catholic Church from the pope to laity are rapists, and if you ask anyone about what was going on in Eastern Europe as far as Christianity was concerned you're going to smell burnt toast.

Also Jesus + Mary Magdalene are OTP because this Gnostic fanfiction said so.

Their split is like a thousand years old now. It's not usually looked all that fondly upon to lump them together.

You're referring to the East-West split between the entities now known as the (Roman, primarily) Catholic Church and the (Eastern) Orthodox Church if you're citing a split from ~1000 years.

After that there's the Protestant Reformation a little over 500 years ago which saw the formation of new traditions either directly breaking from Catholicism or breaking from a tradition that broke from Catholicism in the centuries following.

Catholics that aren't falling asleep during Mass are going to tell you they're Christians because, among other things, one of their canonical books (one that every Christian tradition considers canon) records the origin of the term "Christian". Catholics that are more traditional will go a step further and say that they're the Christian Church for sure but these other communions (well, most of them) are in "imperfect communion" or some such.

Catholics that go "further beyond" will tell you everyone else is definitely boned, but I'm pretty sure the Catholic Church declared that mindset heretical.

 

[Allanon]

I don’t think Ben Singer and company are ones to chase trends really, or at least not recently. I haven’t seen any of those guys talk about Vic at all. Also, their battles are a lot of fan requests.

I feel like you haven't been paying attention to their antics, which I don't blame you for because it's been boring and predictable for a long time (they're DC fanboys, that's a spoiler for every DC involved battle). They've outright admitted to purposefully picking divisive battles and divisive decisions just to get views. See: Goku vs Superman 2. They even had a skit about it where Takahata101 starts a riot about it and it zooms in to...Boomstick, I think, smirking at the chaos.

Ed vs whoever was probably long in development before this, but I don't believe that they know about the ISWV vs KV thing but don't care. They're either unaware because they're dumb, or they're aware and chose to release it during this time on purpose, rather than hold off for it to cool down.

 

[Basil II]

We're on the internet, and it's the Current Year + 4-- nobody knows how Christian traditions work, everybody thinks the Catholic Church from the pope to laity are rapists, and if you ask anyone about what was going on in Eastern Europe as far as Christianity was concerned you're going to smell burnt toast.

Also Jesus + Mary Magdalene are OTP because this Gnostic fanfiction said so.

(((Gnostic)))

 

[Lens Serial# 0000713d7c]

Are we... laboring under the idea that Catholics (and Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, and maybe Methodists) are adherents of a religion sufficiently distinct from what's commonly understood to be Christianity?

Oh good Heavens yes.

Remember that Pelagianism (No original sin, Man can choose to be good without the will of the Divine), Nestiorianism (the hypostatic union between human and Divine in the person of Jesus Christ) and Arianism (there is no human nature of Jesus Christ, only Divine) were all promulgated by theologians who considered themselves good Catholics working to better the Church, yet were still condemned as heretical and purged relentlessly.

What LUTHER unleashed created a violent and bitter schism that has lasted nigh on 500 years with casualties even occuring in the modern day. Back when it started in the 16th century there were decades-long wars of Reformation and Counter-reformation and Inquisition that tortured, maimed and killed hundreds of thousands.

Imagine asking a Bohemian Hussite if he considered himself a good son of the Bishop of Rome, or asking a Jesuit tutor of Ferdinand II if Martin Luther had made some good points when he pointed out the practice of paid indulgences led itself to corruption.

Pre-Vatican II and Cardinal Wojtyla's "ecumenical" efforts I'm reliably told that not only did you not consider a member of some other sect non-Christian, you thought they were positively Satanic.

 

[kcbbq]

(((Gnostic)))

The catholics killed all the real Christians during the albigensian crusade anyway.

 

[Basil II]

The catholics killed all the real Christians during the albigensiam crusade anyway.

That's not how you spell the 4th crusade.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

I feel like you haven't been paying attention to their antics, which I don't blame you for because it's been boring and predictable for a long time (they're DC fanboys, that's a spoiler for every DC involved battle). They've outright admitted to purposefully picking divisive battles and divisive decisions just to get views. See: Goku vs Superman 2. They even had a skit about it where Takahata101 starts a riot about it and it zooms in to...Boomstick, I think, smirking at the chaos.

Bruh, DC fanboys they are not. Do you have any idea how many battles people have called them out on misrepresenting DC?

Plus they've never said anything like that from what I know, else there would be actual riots outside their offices. That skit was also a joke at how people were personally attacking them for a bunch of fictional fights.

 

[FailedStudentOfTheKarmaSu]

Getting a picture with OPL does that to you.

Is that ChrisChan!

 

[kcbbq]

That's not how you spell the 4th crusade.

Tbf I misspelled albigensian, too. Not my finest hour.

 

[Garm]

Holy fuck she looks like a man
She looks more like a man than Soye

That really isn't an accomplishment.

 

[Allanon]

Oh good Heavens yes.

Remember that Pelagianism (No original sin, Man can choose to be good without the will of the Divine), Nestiorianism (the hypostatic union between human and Divine in the person of Jesus Christ) and Arianism (there is no human nature of Jesus Christ, only Divine) were all promulgated by theologians who considered themselves good Catholics working to better the Church, yet were still condemned as heretical and purged relentlessly.

What LUTHER unleashed created a violent and bitter schism that has lasted nigh on 500 years with casualties even occuring in the modern day. Back when it started in the 16th century there were decades-long wars of Reformation and Counter-reformation and Inquisition that tortured, maimed and killed hundreds of thousands.

Imagine asking a Bohemian Hussite if he considered himself a good son of the Bishop of Rome, or asking a Jesuit tutor of Ferdinand II if Martin Luther had made some good points when he pointed out the practice of paid indulgences led itself to corruption.

Pre-Vatican II and Cardinal Wojtyla's "ecumenical" efforts I'm reliably told that not only did you not consider a member of some other sect non-Christian, you thought they were positively Satanic.

It's true. Catholics have a long history of murdering the heck out of Christians. The 'witches' that the Catholics tended to target were often actually just Christians and similar such things which they relabeled as heretics to excuse torture and murder. The 'Baptists' are actually from a surviving sect of the 'Anabaptists', who didn't believe baptism was necessary for salvation and were massacred extensively for spreading that information and had to go into hiding to survive.

Bruh, DC fanboys they are not. Do you have any idea how many battles people have called them out on misrepresenting DC?

Plus they've never said anything like that from what I know, else there would be actual riots outside their offices. That skit was also a joke at how people were personally attacking them for a bunch of fictional fights.

I didn't say they were good at what they did. They make ridiculous composite characters that never existed and try to use those for their fighters, but usually if they're going to lie about something or cherrypick details (hey there infinite weight book) it's going to be in DC's favor, particularly in Marvel vs DC.

 

[Secret Asshole]

God damn, that bitch is ugly. No wonder she went after Vic.

 

[Foolish Samurai Warrior]

I didn't say they were good at what they did. They make ridiculous composite characters that never existed and try to use those for their fighters, but usually if they're going to lie about something or cherrypick details (hey there infinite weight book) it's going to be in DC's favor, particularly in Marvel vs DC.

I don't think there's any fight that was in DC's favor I would particularly disagree with, aside from Batman Beyond VS Spider-Man 2099. And compositing characters is better than just using 1 author's run of a character. That would never make sense.