Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Slamerella]

I wonder what the odds are they may try and rope the farms into this. Fuhrer Jdolf seemed pretty desperate to get Vic to admit some sort of tie to us.

Count me on this one: It'd be dismissed as Hearsay. WE as a forum are not responsible for the actions of the users here, outside or in the farm, nor are we a part of the suit. If they use any posts here outside of the evidence we've provided (example, any and all posts calling Marchi the cow she is) then it'll just be seen as something not relevant to the case since it's about Vic. And if they try to say that they got evidence from an external party, then we can say that they did too with so many tweets and users who aren't at all directly involved in the case saying, what would also be considered, hearsay.

 

[SushiOnFire]

And if they try to say that they got evidence from an external party, then we can say that they did too with so many tweets and users who aren't at all directly involved in the case saying, what would also be considered, hearsay.

As opposed to PULL's posts being cited as credible by the defense. It might be interesting to gather any post that imply malice from them, but I wouldn't wish anyone to look into that nebulous black hole of despair that is that forum ( and let's be fair to say that we are also an exceptional bunch of individuals at the farm too, but at least we do not see ourselves as sheepdog that defend the innocent by tweeting )

 

[Reverend]

As opposed to PULL's posts being cited as credible by the defense. It might be interesting to gather any post that imply malice from them, but I wouldn't wish anyone to look into that nebulous black hole of despair that is that forum ( and let's be fair to say that we are also an exceptional bunch of individuals at the farm too, but at least we do not see ourselves as sheepdog that defend the innocent by tweeting )

I'm a goddamn Bull Mastiff compared to Ron Toye who may be a pedophile, so I heard and I'd love nothing more than to see the Discovery request sent to Null.

 

[Wake me up]

Made this while listening to the second half of Monica's deposition today. I legit love Carey Christie, please notice me senpai!

 

[LobotomizedFerret]

Does anyone else think it odd that both Sheep Dog Ron and Land Whale Monica DON'T own their own homes and are renting, at their age?

Doesn't suggest they have had very successful careers.



That seems like a very obvious question to ask, I'm surprised that it wasn't asked.


But their answer in the deposition would be on tape and could be shown to a jury.

Now despite that question not being asked, Moronica may anticipate it and work out a half decent answer, if they end up going to court.

Catching someone in a contradiction live is way cooler than on video. Sure, Monica may see that question coming and may come up with a half decent answer but will she be able to come up with half decent answers to all the follow up questions? Questions that are sure to as invasive as possible? Will those answers create any contradictions with all the previous or future answers?

Contradictions are sure to arise with so many lies, and as we saw with the depos, Monica isn't a very good liar.

 

[ErbBetaPatch]

That incident happened what, 10 years ago? The argument can still be made that she never bought it up to anyone up until now, they don't need any more ammo to make the case that she still felt comfortable around Vic even right after it happened.

But she said she didn't go to kc because she didn't feel safe around vic. Why didn't she feel safe just for kc, and not any other convention that would have happened closer to the date of the alleged assault? You would feel more threatened by him the closer you are to that date than you would a dozen years later.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

"EVEN THOUGH I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER!"

The catch about that is while I'm sure Monica is jealous of Vic, that whole story is a lie, with that bit being one final embellishment. She was claiming that Vic's name was put on the box of Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle, while her name wasn't. However I spent some time checking today, and none of the voice actors names appear on the box art for any of the DVD/Blu-ray releases for the series I could find. A check of my own relatively small anime collection indicates that's standard. Anime voice actors simply aren't important enough to get their name on the box of the home video release.

I think Monica was doing two things with that answer. First answer the question by giving an example of how powerful Vic was in the industry(so powerful he got his name on the box and the woman voicing the main character didn't). Second I think she was attempting to feed the idea of Vic being a public figure by giving the idea that Vic's name was the the box of the series the same way that big name celebrities get their name plastered on movie boxes and posters. However the reality is that anime simply doesn't use the names of voice actors in it's advertising that way. You don't even see Chris Sabat's name on the box that Monica claimed that Vic's name was on, but not hers.

 

[JoyfulDarter]

Am slowly getting through the Rial depo. Very interesting.

She claims that Vic has been investigated multiple times. Assuming it's true, which I doubt, surely something would have been found by now? It seems more likely that if these "investigations" exist they weren't for sexual harassment but for interoffice "interactions" that were consensual but inappropriate for the workplace because let's face it, Vic is a pussy hound.

These are the questions that are staying with me about this in the offchance these investigations did occur.

1. How would Rial be privy to these "investigations" if they weren't conducted by Funimation? I understand she doesn't exclusively work for Funimation. Is she having conversations with others in the VA community who work for other companies? (She has a cabal of sorts that has all rallied to get Vic fired and slandered, do these people expand beyond the known Dragon Ball related rat nest?)

2. If these incidents are so widespread, why hasn't anything come out before now? Vic is not a powerful figure in the industry. Sabat has significantly more pull than he does. If these allegations were credible it would be so easy to cut ties and warn other studios about his behavior. Especially if these VAs are so tight knit like Rial's assertion that she "knows" about other investigations is true. Why would one studio bar him from their grounds and decline to put out any kind of statement or warn other studios about it? Why would employees of said studio stand by while he continues to work in the industry? (This also goes back to no allegations exist prior to his work in acting, not from when he was a police officer or a teacher.)

3. What does it mean if he was investigated by all these other companies and nothing came of it? Have others been trying to #MeToo him for a decade and just been unsuccessful so far? Is he just some kind of ultra-predator who is really, really good at sexually assaulting women and getting away with it? Wouldn't someone start getting suspicious about all of these investigations from different, completely unrelated women across unaffiliated companies and do something about it?

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

2. If these incidents are so widespread, why hasn't anything come out before now? Vic is not a powerful figure in the industry. Sabat has significantly more pull than he does. If these allegations were credible it would be so easy to cut ties and warn other studios about his behavior. Especially if these VAs are so tight knit like Rial's assertion that she "knows" about other investigations is true. Why would one studio bar him from their grounds and decline to put out any kind of statement or warn other studios about it? Why would employees of said studio stand by while he continues to work in the industry? (This also goes back to no allegations exist prior to his work in acting, not from when he was a police officer or a teacher.)

Look at the other cases: Weinstein, Jackson, Allen, Saville, Kelly, Polanski.
Everyone knew what was going on and just went about their days like nothing happened.

They weren't gonna expose him but then #metoo happened. Also remember this whole thing was from a fan account. Then Cuntica, Marchi, etc all came out of the woodwork coincidentally.........

 

[JoyfulDarter]

Look at the other cases: Weinstein, Jackson, Allen, Saville, Kelly, Polanski.
Everyone knew what was going on and just went about their days like nothing happened.

They weren't gonna expose him but then #metoo happened. Also remember this whole thing was from a fan account. Then Cuntica, Marchi, etc all came out of the woodwork coincidentally.........

The thing is, especially with Cosby, you had decades worth of accusations from women all across the country who were completely unrelated to each other that were all extremely similar with a very specific methodology, drugging. The accusations against Vic come from one very, very specific sphere of a particular industry and seemingly all the accusers are close to each other i.e. the twins living with Rial and one of them being employed by Toye. Vic is not the Weinstein, the Cosby, the Epstein of his current field of work by any stretch of the imagination. He has no pull. He has massive, massive oversight from several different large companies. All it would take is for one to perform an investigation (or in this case, several) and finally decide enough is enough and cut ties with the guy in a very public way. They would have nothing to lose by even reporting the incident to the company's HR department privately.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Thing is tho the stories don't seem cohesive imo. Vic doesn't have a specific mo
Was it a hug? Kiss? Rape? Hair playing? So many different things

 

[AnOminous]

Thing is tho the stories don't seem cohesive imo. Vic doesn't have a specific mo
Was it a hug? Kiss? Rape? Hair playing? So many different things

His m.o. is not assaulting anyone.

Somewhat major development on the evidentiary front. It's related to the conspiracy count. Part of my worry about the case has been how the conspiracy claim is pled. Generally, to prove conspiracy, you need actual communications between the parties of some sort that concludes with "let's do this" with "this" being something with an unlawful purpose.

So far, nothing of the sort has been produced until this, from Nick's stream tonight:

Currently, the case is facing not just a TCPA on this issue but also what are called "special exceptions" under Rule 91 of the Texas Rules of Civil Procedure.

These object to how the case is pled. Currently, and under the proposed amended complaint currently under consideration, it doesn't list any specific communications or say how they lead to the alleged conspiracy.

This email, though, shows a couple of important things. First, it's a communication by Monica urging Funimation to issue a statement about the investigation and no longer engaging Vic. They subsequently did exactly this, and the statement was the defamatory tweet that is the sole basis for Funimation being accused of defamation directly under its own name.

This is not proof of any conspiracy, but it is evidence that could lead a jury to believe that there was an agreement by the parties to engage in the behavior being sued over. This makes that claim stronger.

The second point of note is that Monica is indicating she doesn't know what she CAN say and expressing frustration that Funi hasn't responded to some previous communication. Why would she want to know what she CAN say and why would she be asking Funi this, unless they in fact had some control over what she said? This strengthens the agency argument concerning things she subsequently did say, depending on Funi's response.

This isn't a "smoking gun" as such. It's susceptible to more than one reasonable interpretation. However, at least one of those reasonable interpretations tends to support a conspiracy claim.

 

[Pumpkin Girl IRL]

Except with game, because damn son.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

Which is really asinine because Sun Tzu also said it's idiotic to attack where you enemy is strongest, and that avenue of attack is downright impregnable, as Nick bent every legal effort he could making sure it passed muster since day one. GFM themselves signed off it as well, and it was set up so it went to well defined parties for explicit purposes.

Taking that out isn't gonna happen, and even if it did happen, Vic already has the money in Ty's war chest for his legal defense, so it's closing the door long after the horse escapes at best.

Funny enough, if they got the GFM taken down, it'd just lead to another GFM (or a different crowdfunder all together. Project2 looks pretty solid), and it'd get even more donos because of the obvious aggression.

1. How would Rial be privy to these "investigations" if they weren't conducted by Funimation? I understand she doesn't exclusively work for Funimation. Is she having conversations with others in the VA community who work for other companies? (She has a cabal of sorts that has all rallied to get Vic fired and slandered, do these people expand beyond the known Dragon Ball related rat nest?)

IIRC, she said her and vic had both worked for ADV. For Monica's sake, anybody who would have known about that had better be six feet under already.

Come to think of it, were there any untimely deaths there? Maybe that's the reason she waited so long.

 

[General Relativity QM]

Come to think of it, were there any untimely deaths there? Maybe that's the reason she waited so long.

You guys (and gals), I read on the internet that Monica is a murderer. This lines up with my experiences of her and the people with which she associates. I mean one girl was talking about how she wants a guy's head and balls, and not in the fun way - in the totally wishing pain and suffering kinda way. I totally believe this accusation. It lines up with my experiences of this person. Perhaps, she should apologize, lay low for awhile, and seek other employment. Think of the victims who are too dead and afraid of the backlash to stand up themselves. Where's the sheepdog for them? Where's the sheepdog for them!?

#sarcasm

 

[AStupidMonkey]

You guys (and gals), I read on the internet that Monica is a murderer. This lines up with my experiences of her and the people with which she associates. I mean one girl was talking about how she wants a guys head and balls, and not in the fun way - in the totally wishing pain and suffering kinda way. I totally believe this accusation. It lines up with my experiences of this person. Perhaps, she should apologize, lay low for awhile, and seek other employment. Think of the victims who are too dead and afraid of the backlash to stand up themselves. Where's the sheepdog for them? Where's the sheepdog for them!?

#sarcasm

Yeah, maybe "untimely" was the wrong word. Let' say "recent."

 

[Tight pantaloons]

How hard must it have been for Amazon prime to do this depo? I mean, she must have gotten angry seeing Monica's fake arse testimony having actually experienced that sort of assault herself. Carrie really held herself up with calmness, dignity and professionalism, which is something most of these VA's don't seem to understand...
Ty, if you're still checking these threads out make sure to tell Carrie she's a total badass
(Edited for spelling)

 

[Kosher Salt]

She claims that Vic has been investigated multiple times. Assuming it's true, which I doubt, surely something would have been found by now? It seems more likely that if these "investigations" exist they weren't for sexual harassment but for interoffice "interactions" that were consensual but inappropriate for the workplace because let's face it, Vic is a pussy hound.

These are the questions that are staying with me about this in the offchance these investigations did occur.

1. How would Rial be privy to these "investigations" if they weren't conducted by Funimation? I understand she doesn't exclusively work for Funimation. Is she having conversations with others in the VA community who work for other companies? (She has a cabal of sorts that has all rallied to get Vic fired and slandered, do these people expand beyond the known Dragon Ball related rat nest?)

IIRC, she said her and vic had both worked for ADV. For Monica's sake, anybody who would have known about that had better be six feet under already.

She implied that one of the "investigations" was when Vic worked at ADV, and there's only one sure way that she could know, or at least assume, that Vic was investigated when he worked there. That would be if she knew of the accusations that ADV supposedly investigated... and didn't she say later in the deposition that she had made accusations against Vic while they both worked for ADV?

I'm not sure I believe her, because, you know, she's a liar. But it's a very interesting claim nonetheless.

 

[Gehenna]

She implied that one of the "investigations" was when Vic worked at ADV, and there's only one sure way that she could know, or at least assume, that Vic was investigated when he worked there. That would be if she knew of the accusations that ADV supposedly investigated... and didn't she say later in the deposition that she had made accusations against Vic while they both worked for ADV?

I'm not sure I believe her, because, you know, she's a liar. But it's a very interesting claim nonetheless.

A very subpoena-able claim. A claim that would have documentation ON RECORD, and probably kept ON FILE.

 

[Kosher Salt]

A very subpoena-able claim. A claim that would have documentation ON RECORD, and probably kept ON FILE.

How long ago was it, though? My impression was that it was a very long time ago, and neither Vic nor Monica have worked there in a long time. If many years as have passed, I doubt that they'd even have the documentation anymore. It's not likely they would keep their file on previous employees for longer than a certain period; once any relevant statute of limitations had expired, there would be very little reason for them to keep those records any longer.

If the former employee's file is no longer useful as evidence of anything in either criminal or civil court, but could potentially be used (even leaked to the public, possibly) in order to defame the former employee, what advantage would the employer have in keeping the file instead of destroying it? Sure, they might have a truth defense against anything that might come of the records getting out, but do they really want to potentially be dragged into court and have their internal HR affairs scrutinized if they could avoid any possibility of it happening by simply destroying that former employee's file?

I rather doubt that it could be verified, which is very convenient for Monica now.