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The truth about Jessica Yaniv is beginning to emerge - The Post Millennial
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Truth is a tricky thing. For some people, it’s a scary thing.
Publication bans, rules which prevent those of us in the media from discussing or reporting upon truths, can offer some solace to those who would rather the truth not be disseminated.
The truth has proven itself to be a very scary thing for Jessica Yaniv, whose birth and legal pre-transition name is Johnathan Yaniv. There can be no other explanation for someone who has taken such effort to scrub any discussion of herself away, weaponizing both the law and private social media platforms against anyone who has attempted to shine a light on the problematic nature of her behaviour.
In June of 2018, Yaniv was granted a publication ban which prevented the media from publishing both her name, or legally exploring details of her history. Details which would have proved pertinent in any discussion of a controversial figure, but especially one whose actions would ultimately impact Canadian law as a whole.
Fortunately, as of July 17th, 2019, and thanks to the work of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms the publication ban is now lifted, as is the muzzle on the truth about Jessica Yaniv.
In 2018, Yaniv filed 16 human rights complaints with the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal, charging various waxing and esthetic salon workers with transphobic discrimination for declining to provide waxing and other beautification services to her male genitals.
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Each of these salons or salon workers had specifically indicated they only provided intimate area services to female clients, or had challenged Yaniv on her gender due to her then-male name being used on social media, and male presenting photograph. It is worth noting that Yaniv used male pronouns and her male name on her LinkedIn and various social media as late as November of 2018.
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Of the 16 defendants, many are women of colour with religious and/or cultural backgrounds which would have regulated or otherwise made it strictly uncomfortable to have close interaction with male genitals.
However, and as discussed by JCCF lawyer John Carpay for The Post Millennial in late 2018, it is both professionally and personally legitimate for any female esthetician to limit their services to female genitalia.
Yaniv’s complaints were effectively asserting that it should be made a legal precedent that female estheticians not be allowed to refuse male-bodied clients. Not on religious grounds. Not on cultural grounds. Not because of their comfort level. Not even because they did not have the professional skills or equipment required to successfully perform the very specific “manzillian” procedure. They simply should not be allowed to refuse contact with a penis, period.
As discussed by Carpay in his op-ed, Yaniv stood to make over $35,000 from these complaints if successful. Some of the women opted to settle in mediation, likely terrified of the stress and exaggerated effort a Human Rights Tribunal case required.
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But on July 5th, 2019, the hearings commenced with four women legally represented by the JCCF. Citizen journalist (and feminist concerned for the impact this case would have on women’s rights in Canada) @goinglikeelsie took great effort to detail what the media could not at the time in a series of threads on Twitter.
As tepid details emerged from inside the walls of the courthouse, one thing became clear: Yaniv had a problematic history that could not be ignored in the discussion of her litigation against the women.
As the first woman defending herself against Yaniv’s arbitrary accusations of transphobia and discrimination was Sikh, the issue of Yaniv’s bigoted attitude towards people of colour could not be ignored, and was discussed in the hearing, according to @goinglikeelsie’s threads detailing what was said in the hearing.
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Some of those comments can be evidenced in the below screenshots from conversations made public in 2018;
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As late as July 17th, 2019, Yaniv was calling for immigration raids on “120th street in Surrey,” an area known to have a lot of residents who are brown and black people with immigrant backgrounds.
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This echoes previous calls Yaniv has made to have the very women she is taking to court deported for “transphobia.”
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More of Yaniv’s problematic history was revealed in the hearings, as her infamous comments about young girls and tampons was brought to light. I
n one conversation with an esthetic salon on Facebook, Yaniv presented her genitalia as female, and stated that she was on her period. Under the impression Yaniv was female, the esthetician apparently requested that Yaniv wear a tampon to better facilitate the genital waxing services. While we do not have the screenshots of the conversation between the esthetician and Yaniv, Yaniv did discuss deceiving an esthetician, and conversing about tampons and periods, with another individual.
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Yaniv allegedly claimed she did not know how to use tampons, a detail which echoes a number of previous conversations that have surfaced with respect to Yaniv’s disturbing information-seeking on menstrual products.
Especially when it also includes references to young girls.
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At least some of these screenshots may have been read in the Tribunal.
While it is unlikely this further information will be revealed at the Tribunal, it can now be noted that Yaniv’s disturbing history extends beyond bizarre attitudes around menstrual products and apparent racism.
More disturbing behaviour has been recorded and reported. Screenshots of conversations discussing the private parts of young girls, and the pestering of young girls on the internet, have all surfaced.
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On Ask.FM, a semi-anonymous ask and answer site, Yaniv allegedly provided her phone number to girls under the age of 16.
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The number was cross-referenced with the Better Business Bureau as belonging to Yaniv.
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While it cannot be fully confirmed, a number of the comments left under the girls on Ask.FM resemble the interests of Yaniv from previous revelations.
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Most recently, Yaniv showed up without invitation to a beauty pageant featuring young girls and photographs of them were taken. This disturbed the organizer, Charlotte Millington, to the point of threatening Yaniv with police involvement.
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Morgane Oger, a transwoman and the NDP MP-nominee hopeful for Vancouver Centre, took this opportunity to call Yaniv out for “her” egregious history of inappropriate behaviour around young girls, behaviour Oger documented in a blog post released in April of 2019.
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In that blogpost, Oger claims that she had been in contact with individuals who had been directly targeted and impacted by the inappropriate behaviour of Yaniv when they were young girls. This story was previously detailed by The Post Millennial. Note that in many of the esthetician’s cases, they worked out of their home and had small children present.
In no small part due to these details, Yaniv’s potentially vexatious litigation against the estheticians in British Columbia represents a break-point on the issues of self-identification and women’s rights.
If a decision were to be made in favour of Yaniv, it would be a wholesale rejection of the ability of women to gauge and limit their contact with those they feel uncomfortable around.
Female-run businesses which desired to limit their services to female clients, even on cultural or religious grounds, would no longer be allowed to do so. The theoretical impact this would have, predominantly that on women of colour, would be pronounced. Further, the case raises questions about the ability of individuals to hide their potentially pertinently problematic past behind claims of “deadnaming.”
The Yaniv vs. Various Waxing Salons schedule of hearings is available here. The public is free to attend.
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I'm not exactly sure about this specific instance in the video, but in Elsie's transcripts they did threaten to leave Canada and take two buried people with them to be reburied in a place that wasn't as hateful.
TLDR; Jonathan couldn't stop talking about the tribunal cases on his own Twitter, so there's no need to protect his privacy if even he isn't.Has this been shared yet? Insight into why the pub ban was removed.
It's amazing he's making a high 3 figure income per hour when he's with mommy all day except for bath timeLong time lurker on this thread but just made an account to post, I have tried to transcribe the video. I didn't do a most thorough job, I put things in ** that I couldnt understand. I remember in goinglikeelises tweets she said Miriam said "the boy of the lgbtq" but she is actually saying voice not boy and I didn't hear Jessica ever once be misgenered.
Miriam: I don’t need that, Ok? I won’t *unintelligible* my late husband who in *unintelligible*
the Jewish cemetery. Doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter! I don’t care. They can go, go visit him. I don’t care.
Jessica: dont
Miriam: I don’t!
Jessica: Don’t dont dont
Miriam: *unintelligible*
Jessica: Don’t, don’t say which cemetery please
Miriam: I don’t care
Jessica: Don’t say which cemetery.
Miriam: I want to see somebody touching that
Jessica: Don’t, don’t
Miriam: I WANT TO SEE
Jessica: Mom, don’t. Don’t say which cemetery.
Miriam: I want to see somebody touching -
Jessica: DONT
Miriam: I don’t care
Jessica: I care
Miriam: I know you do
Jessica: So, my - my next question that I have, and I’m
Miriam: This is beyond the scope of this tribunal, a criminal, I called the police, the police will show up and deal with it, the police is on the way. I’m telling you this much. And an ambulance for my *son/self*.
Jessica: Um, kay. So my next question is, how important to me is my body image, and receiving gender affirming care? By gender affirming care I mean things such as manicures, things such as waxing, haircuts. The whole - how important is that to me?
Miriam: It - beyond anything that I have seen. I never *unintelligible* gender, this is completely new to me. When you came out in July, a year after *you done it?*, and you telling me after you told everybody else but me. It’s ok, I’m ok with it. No, I’m ok with it, but I could see one, you pushing the weight off your shoulder. So, why. Why do you want me to come, exactly? Why, are you ashamed? No, you are not. You are proud, and I applaud you to want to become the voice of the LGBQ and I applaud and I a proud mom that you want to. And being the voice, you need to present yourself as the right gender that you identity - identify with. Which means that you need service, in this case not denied, but accepted in order to become who you want to be.
Jessica: Um, do you consider haircuts and waxing - do you consider haircuts and waxing gender affirming care to further validate my gender identity, expression and sex as female. Yes or no?
Miriam: ya.
Jessica: So - oh, this is an important one that just gives *unintelligible back and forth*
Miriam: I don’t need to go into my emotion because I am not in a state of *unintelligible*
Jessica: So, ok. So I’m gonna get on- I’m gonna ask questions that give you overall picture of what I experience on a day-to-day basis, including stuff like this. If I may. So, so I am with you almost 24 hours a day.
Miriam: Or more
Jessica: Almost.
Miriam: My private time is an hour that I can have in a hot bath (Jessica interjects throughout this)
Jessica: So, I am with you a lot. We go to malls and such, we go to Tim Hortons, A&W, and all of the places. So what I am-
Miriam: You want to go, you want me to take, I don’t want - (I think I misheard this)
Jessica: What I - What I’m asking is have there been instances of discrimination towards me that you have personally seen. And describe some of those.
Miriam: Yes. And I was beside myself, because I did not realise the day to day iternet until I saw it myself. We went to a meeting with the Council of Langley, and it was a very nice *unintelligible* meeting, I enjoyed it a lot but it was clearly all about nine thirty, ten o clock at night. We went to Tim Hortons *unintelligible*, not going to say the location because it’s too personal, it will identify where we are. It’s a central location of Tim Horton. Jessica went [5:00] to the display to order some food, she was - pre-diabetes, she should have, she could feel in her blood sugar going down. And I was hungry too. And there wasn’t food. And, when we went into the window and ‘for you? Not for you. You can have only a drink. Food, no. So we didn’t even take the drink, we drove away. We went to a different Tim Horton in our neighbourhood. Ok, I am not going to say. We went to a different *unintelligble* Now, my assumption, I don’t know if we saw the person that was in the first location, but it belonged to the *unintelligible* that denying services to Jessica *unintelligible*. So I don’t want to go into racial, I’m not a racist, but they have something against gender. Is it based on religion, is it based on culture, I don’t know. The only thing I can say in regards to this is, I have two questions [someone farts] I have been to the previous proceeding, I wanted to say, to talk, but my position in public did not allow me. Now Im allowed. There are two points here. And first of all, I wanted to ask if father of - I don’t remember her name -
Jessica: Oh, um Suki
Miriam: With the translator
Jessica:With the translator?
Miriam: I don’t remember it
Jessica: Suki Hee Hargel [this can’t be right but idk how to check the tribunal records and its not that important]
Miriam: I don’t - I could not understand why the tribunal agreed to have a translator here. When I myself immigrated, I don’t know how long Mr Thorncop [wrong name again] is in Canada, but when you come to Canada you have to know the language. Otherwise why you coming here. You don’t want to amalgamate into the culture, why are you here? You cannot come to this country and force your religion and culture upon us. I am not enforcing my religion or my culture, or my belief on you. Don’t enforce them on me. And another thing I want to ask the gentlemen is do you go to the bank, or to the doctor. *unintelligble* So this was a big step to extend our nerves to the limit by providing a translator that took forever and ended up without wasting *unintelligble*. I don’t agree with my taxpayer paying for this translator, this is not the way I want my tax payment, to see my tax payements to go. And so, if I am stepping too far here, but it’s just my belief. The other question is human rights vs religion. Where do we go here? What *unintelligble as camera moves*
For me, human rights. I am a very religious person, I am a very ingrained Jewish person. I believe in God. God is holding me here right now. Why. Why do they have the right to come here, spending your time, the tribunals time, trying to convince you that their religion is not allowed them to touch a transgender, and men. Or whatever. Why? Why do you allow this to happen. Im sorry - I’m -
Devyn??: That’s ok. Miriam I think, I think you need, I think we’re getting far afield of the evidence that is going to be used,
Miriam: It can be for tomorrow
Devyn: I’m giving quite a bit of leeway here, so that you can get out what you need
Miriam: What that?
Jessica: Shes giving a lot of leeway here
Miriam: I’m sorry, I’m sorry
Devyn: I cannot use what you’re saying today in cases where the people you’re talking about are not here
Miriam: I know, ok I’m sorry
Devyn: Ok, because it’s not fair,
Jessica *unintelligble* tommorow, so they fair
Devyn: So is there anything else about Judy Tran’s case?
Miriam: I’m sorry. I’m not familiar with all of this, it’s a new environment for me.
Jessica: Um, now, we talked, we talked - well you answered a lot of this with *unintelligble* when you asked the *unintelligble* questions.
Miriam: So don’t ask them again then
Jessica: No, sorry. Ok. So I asked you about in person. I asked you about what happened in person -
Miriam: One minute, I said Tim Hortons. Now going to services, we are known. Of course we are known in *unintelligble, and Jessica say something*. Jessica went in and said I want my eyelashes filled in because half of it fell out. It was an important day before *unintelligble*, court appearance the next day so she wanted to look nice. I said go ahead, go, we have time. Go. So, she went in. At the beginning, yeah we do that, ok, we do that. Few minute after, no the woman that is doing it, she is not here, she is on vacation. I have to move forward, I have to a- no we cannot do that, goodbye. Then we went to the food court to order some food, I decided to go back and said I want my hair done. Sure you can. Can you do my eye brow - oh, my lashes? Sure we can. So, Hello. Jessica as a transgender cannot access those services, when I can because I look more like a woman than Jessica does.
Jessica: And then what did they say - you got a cramp, you ok? - What did they say when you asked if I can get the service. What did they say when you asked what about Jessica? What- what did - So they said, oh yeah you can get the service, you can get your eyebrows done, but when you asked if I can get mine done, what did they say
Miriam: No, no you can’t.
Jessica: Exactly, So, we talked, I’m almost done here, a couple more questions.
Miriam/ Jessica unintelligible exchange but it sounds like she wants to go and something is going on.
Jessica: I will, I’m almost done. Ok. So you -
Miriam: How important is it?
Jessica: It is important, it is important. Because youve seen the in person discrimination. But do you remember sitting with me at the dining room table, online approaching a salon, where you told me literally what to say, and seeing the backlash that I get for facials?
Miriam: Yes I do
Jessica: And what did they say
Miriam: No
Jessica: Exactly. Why, it’s because I’m transgender, right?
Miriam: Well it’s obvious and also *Camera shifts cant understand* I dunno, I dont know about that. Jessica?
Jessica: So, yeah. The question here. Do you think that much of - do you believe that much of this harrasment and refusal of service is a version of Neo- Nazism? That being-
Miriam: Why would you go there? As a Jewish person -
Jessica: No, I don’t know why I’m asking *back and forth and camera shifting* I’m going to ask the same question tomorrow. I
Jessica: Do you believe that much of the harassment and refusal of service - do you know what Neo-nazism is?
Miriam: Ya
Jessica: Ok. You do. So do you, do you believe that much of the harassment and refusal of service is a part of neonazism as the part one, and the part two of the question is, so, basically the reason I’m asking this is because neonazis seek to employ their ideaology to promote hatred and attack minorities, and
Miriam: Ok, I know where you’re going, I know
*camera shifting, unintelligible speaker is muffled*
Miriam: - Maybe tomorrow. I, yes. Even, I’m jewish. The backlash against, *muffled* as a jewish person, have been publicised, I’m not ok with this, my sister is not going. *muffled* I want to do a birthday party within the community, she wont go. She is refusing to go because of the antisemetism and the stress that we are experiencing as Jewish people because of social media.
Devyn: So, how much, how many more questions do you have?
Jessicane - two more, and then we are done. The first question, I think you answered, is what is the impact of the discrimination towards me?
Miriam: I already answered that a hundred times. I’m not answering that again.
Jessicak. So the last question I have, ya, cause you’ve already answered *muffled* - Describe my personality.
Miriam: What do you want? You are the most wonderful daughter that I ever had, and our connection is deepened day by day and day by day I am more proud, more proud of you, and really just proud of you. And I’m sure dad is too, and so is papa and omi, and ima. We all are proud of you, you are wonderful, your mission is wonderful. Becoming the voice of the *unknown* excuses, minorities, is wonderful. It’s just - I don’t know. I’m a proud mom. This is all I can say. I really am proud mom, and I’m not saying it just before the court. I am proud because its just that I wouldn’t be here if not for you, I wouldn’t be here. *unknown* I don’t care. I don’t care. We are all *unknown*. And her picture is out there. She don’t know about it because she’s not the tech that good, if she find out, she will jump.
Jessica: um
Miriam: enough?
Jessica: That’s everything.
Miriam: I think so - we have two hours.
Devyn: thank you, so, I’ve heard the evidence that i need for this, so this proceeding. *muffled* No, I don’t have any questions. What I want to say though, is if you plan on having Miriam to testify tomorrow, you need to give Mr. Cameron note of that today. He may object, I will decide wether to allow it. But I want you, when you go home tonight you need to be prepared in case you can testify. And then Miriam Yaniv, you will be prepared that he will ask you questions
Miriam: I don’t have any fear. I’m not trying here, and everything is messed up. *muffled* anybody can ask me any questions.
Devyn: Ok. And as I have said, I have today allowed the testimony to go on for quite a bit longer, just beyond what I’m going to be able to use in this proceeding, so what has happened is I have heard it all, but now I take it and I decide if I can give it any weight, or no weight at all. That’s something I do in my decision. I think, when there’s somebody else in the room, as you know, you can anticipate some objections for some of these topics -
Jessica: I know
Devyn: -And frankly, you know, it’s likely that what you will be able to testify about tomorrow is going to be more limited.
Miriam:
Jessica:I know
Miriam: This is your court room, this is your proceeding, you’re in charge of it, and I respect that, and if you say objection, I do understand that. As I said before I don’t understand - this is a new environment for me, I’m just talking my heart out.
Devyn: Thank you, so I am just preparing you for that because some of the testimony about matters that are not the subject of this *muffle camera but she seems to be explaining that she has discretion to do things and giving them advice about some stuff the defendants will do*.
Jessica: Because I know the tribunal is under - Is there any threshold that you or the other tribunal members are able to award when it comes to costs??
Devyn: Ok this is, I cannot *muffled, something about other party?* we’re on the record so I’ll hear the question, but I cant talk to you about other cases. Is there a maximum costs threshold under the law? No
Jessica: There isn’t?
Devyn: No.
Jessica: Ok. ha ha. Ok.
Devyn: Ok. So I will see you back here at ten o clock tomorrow morning *muffle* todays proceedings are adjourned
Thanks @Kiislova . I was unable to download the video at that momentDownloaded. Attached to message.
Goddamn. That's like a distillation of this entire thread, complete with nearly all of the most damning screencaps, put out there in one easy-to-link article.New article about Yaniv:
http://archive.fo/UtZFN![]()
The Post Millennial
Political, business, and investigative journalism news coverage in Canada. Local, provincial, and federal news and current events analysis across Canada.www.thepostmillennial.com
Goddamn. That's like a distillation of this entire thread, complete with nearly all of the most damning screencaps, put out there in one easy-to-link article.
Kudos for taking the time to put this together. If anyone has any doubts about this 'girl' they should be steered to this.New article about Yaniv:
http://archive.fo/UtZFN![]()
The Post Millennial
Political, business, and investigative journalism news coverage in Canada. Local, provincial, and federal news and current events analysis across Canada.www.thepostmillennial.com
I think she's actually calling him The voice of the LGBT community. Power level my ex-mother-in-law is Israeli and very heavily accented.It does. She calls him a boy on two occasions at least.
This is incredible and perfectly outlines the predatory behaviour from start to finish. Try hiding from this one JY.New article about Yaniv:
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The Post Millennial
Political, business, and investigative journalism news coverage in Canada. Local, provincial, and federal news and current events analysis across Canada.www.thepostmillennial.com
Jonathan's mother is significantly hearing impaired and I think a lot of her behavior has to do with the fact that she can't hear what's going on. She's really to the point of having to lip-read.
Can someone else confirm, at around 4 minutes she says "I know where you're going, what you want me to say." I'm having difficulties understanding her, but it sounds like she's admitting to being coached as a witness before the Tribunal.
This better explains both Jessica's and Miriam's behavior in the court case where they had no respondent. I initially found it odd for them to be having more of a random conversation than testifying. Knowing Miriam has limited English skills, hearing issues, and might not be of sound mind explains what happened there and the coaching on the balcony much later that night. It sounds like Jessica's only hope to have mummy say favorable things in the tribunal case is to coach her about what to say. More on that later.This is hilarious. What @WGkitty said about overhearing Jonathan coaching his mother on the balcony was definitely confirmed.
Is it possible that the lawyer, with the consolidated cases still pending/ongoing, doesn't want to say anything that would poison the well so to speak? I'm not sure what Canada's rules are regarding lawyer's behavior/decorum outside of the courtroom (or its equivalent), but US lawyers generally tend to be careful about the words or rhetoric they use when speaking about the opposing party in an ongoing legal matter.The lawyer is doing a piss poor job of getting his message across. He’s not really expressing how much of a social terrorist Yaniv is. Sigh.
TFW Dear Leader does more background research than a so-called journalist for their respective streaming broadcasts.The radio host didn’t bother to do much of any background reading, which isn’t surprising since these shows (on the right and left) are just about manufacturing controversy- boring facts get in the way of that shit.
Now I'm even more angry that there's very clearly senior abuse happening here as well.
She’s hard of hearing, English is a second language, she’s old, confused and looney - pretty easy for Jonathan to control the information she gets and the narrative.
Has this been shared yet? Insight into why the pub ban was removed.
TLDR; Jonathan couldn't stop talking about the tribunal cases on his own Twitter, so there's no need to protect his privacy if even he isn't.
He ratted himself out. Good one.
I wonder if either of them are "left dirty in the bathtub."It's amazing he's making a high 3 figure income per hour when he's with mommy all day except for bath time
Long time lurker on this thread but just made an account to post, I have tried to transcribe the video. I didn't do a most thorough job, I put things in ** that I couldnt understand. I remember in goinglikeelises tweets she said Miriam said "the boy of the lgbtq" but she is actually saying voice not boy and I didn't hear Jessica ever once be misgenered.
He was loving having all of the control of what was put out there, which is why he was so worried about silencing Elsie. She found a way to share that was legal and he was panicking. Now he’s just fucked because everyone can (and basically is) talking about it.TLDR; Jonathan couldn't stop talking about the tribunal cases on his own Twitter, so there's no need to protect his privacy if even he isn't.
He ratted himself out. Good one.
- Beth Israel Cemetery:[16] Consecrated in 1936 at 1721 Willingdon Avenue, Burnaby.
- Beth Tikvah Cemetery:[50] Consecrated in 1987 at Victory Memorial Park Funeral Centre, 14831 28th Avenue, Surrey.
- Mountain View Cemetery:[51] A section of this Vancouver city-owned cemetery was set aside for Jewish burials in 1887. It is located west of Fraser Street between 31st and 43rd Avenues, and the office is at 5455 Fraser Street.
- Schara Tzedek Cemeteries:[52] The first cemetery was consecrated in 1929 at 2345 Marine Drive, New Westminster. In 2008, a new cemetery was consecrated at 16656 60th Avenue, Surrey.