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Oh my. I was optimistically doubtful that woke capeshit would not infect the MCU.

Crossing my fingers that Captain Marvel ordering child soldier to hold American citizens in black site extra-judicial prisons gets into theaters. Extra joy if they don't think twice about portraying it as heroic. I'll settle for Riri stealing from Tony Stark or Rayshaun Lucas firebombing a bank though. Any one of these could single-handedly destroy the MCU if they handle it like they did in the comics.
 
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Oh my. I was optimistically doubtful that woke capeshit would not infect the MCU.

Crossing my fingers that Captain Marvel ordering child soldier to hold American citizens in black site extra-judicial prisons gets into theaters. Extra joy if they don't think twice about portraying it as heroic. I'll settle for Riri stealing from Tony Stark or Rayshaun Lucas firebombing a bank though. Any one of these could single-handedly destroy the MCU if they handle it like they did in the comics.
I think pretty soon natural inertia takes over anyway and people will just start becoming tired of superhero movies in general. The fact that it's going to be woke capeshit holding the bag when it happens is going to be very satisfying.
 
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Finally caught up with your freaks.

Time for a change of pace. Good job Marvel, stay topical. This is exactly what people want in their comics.
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Ya'll need to stop dogging on my girl Captain Marvel. That's right. I've converted. I love Captain Marvel, she's such a stunning and brave character and I can't wait to play her in Ultimate Alliance 3.


I think playing the numbers game is stupid but buried on the forums is me doing some number crunching on the demographics of Marvel when they were replacing everyone.

The TL;DR was the majority of nuMarvel protagonists were young-ish white women with a minority of adult black men. Every other demographic was underutilized to the point that some like Kamala Khan and Riri Williams were basically the only examples of their demographic. I don't really think Marvel has a diversity problem to begin with but it is funny how the "New and Diverse Marvel" was just white girls and some black men.
You need to put the biggest air quotes around "Men" there. They've castrated most of their usually badass black males. Skin color is never a big deal, but if you want representation why make every black male effeminate... Are they too scary and violent otherwise? Who are the real racists?

Fair enough, I just had 'douche vibes' from him. But, if you feel he is genuine...doesn't matter. I've only kept a passing interest in this drama(which is fading)...
Yaboi doesn't know everything about everyone, I think him willing to do research on something before writing about it is more than you can say about most writers in the field today (look at Female Furies as Exhibit A-F) I get the feeling he knows a bit about Conan, maybe enough to know the current run of Conan has put him at a less than interesting iteration of the former character - but he's not the creator himself, yaknow?
As for the douchey vibes, he's a weirdo comic nerd in his forties who got shot at in the military for a good portion of his life and has been married more times than Captain Marvel's been rebooted in the last three years. So I can see where you could feel how you feel, but he comes off more "dad humorist" than douchy in my opinion, it's why I can still watch his videos.
The Mark Waid thing comes from being called out by pros "You don't like our shit, PRODUCE YOUR OWN" and he did, and any writer, let alone comic writer wants to see their baby on the shelf, to prove themselves - and Waid allegedly took that away from him. That's why he harps on it, they gave him a goal, and before he could achieve it, they took the goal from him and threw it away. Jaw Breakers is his first big story, and if it's not that good, I get it, Chip Zdarsky was floundering on Spider-Man for a while, but eventually he molded his writing into better work - so I'd say wait till Jaw Breakers II comes out, see if he's improved and if you don't think so, yaknow... then give him hell for being shit.

I mean, that's just how I feel, to each their own.

Said it weeks ago that this thread will get ridiculous the moment EVS entered the fray because you know the crazies would follow suit. At least it could have been entertaining if Cecil came along.

Edit : @KingofNothing Captain Marvel has longer hair now? And actually looks feminine? Huh?
They did this in reboot #165 - to make her look more like Brie Larson's Captain Marvel, same reason SLJ's Fury is the new Fury of the 616, etc.

Edit: cougr'd on Captain Marvel



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Oh my. I was optimistically doubtful that woke capeshit would not infect the MCU.

Crossing my fingers that Captain Marvel ordering child soldier to hold American citizens in black site extra-judicial prisons gets into theaters. Extra joy if they don't think twice about portraying it as heroic. I'll settle for Riri stealing from Tony Stark or Rayshaun Lucas firebombing a bank though. Any one of these could single-handedly destroy the MCU if they handle it like they did in the comics.
How did her books sell? Natalie Portman is not a stunning actress, and her roles in the Thor movies was never what sold the tickets. So, good luck with selling this film. Taika Waititi is a good enough comedy director, but I hated Ragnarok. After Edngame I've pretty much packed my bags on the MCU, I didn't like this bullshit in comics, why would I actively put myself through this shit in theaters? As far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever they want
 

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Oh my. I was optimistically doubtful that woke capeshit would not infect the MCU.

Crossing my fingers that Captain Marvel ordering child soldier to hold American citizens in black site extra-judicial prisons gets into theaters. Extra joy if they don't think twice about portraying it as heroic. I'll settle for Riri stealing from Tony Stark or Rayshaun Lucas firebombing a bank though. Any one of these could single-handedly destroy the MCU if they handle it like they did in the comics.
HAHA Thank Fuck I left the MCU train with Endgame. :story:

Perch had a good video on this today.

TL;DW: the messaging is incoherent because SJWs are fucking stupid.
Perch had a YT channel, first I'm hearing of it. I really like that guy's insight.
 
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I think pretty soon natural inertia takes over anyway and people will just start becoming tired of superhero movies in general. The fact that it's going to be woke capeshit holding the bag when it happens is going to be very satisfying.

Yeah I don't see superhero movies fading much in the near future unfortunately, because they have two things going for them 1) There is literally no competition. Hollywood just can't make compelling original properties anymore 2) Capeshit is the perfect lowest common denominator form of entertainment. Anyone can understand it and you can shove almost any sci-fi or fantasy premise into the universes for people to gawk at.

Turning tiny, old ass Natalie Portman into the next Thor is going to make normie audiences both groan and laugh simultaneously, and will hurt their bottom line a bit, but Marvel fanboys will swallow anything and average audiences don't have much else to spend their movie bucks on.

No way in hell are they going to make her a villain while she's being primed to replace Iron Man and lead the films.

The comic are completely divorced from what's going on with the movies. They didn't have a male Thor on the shelves for a big chunk of the Avengers run, if i remember right. Just for one example.
 
The cynic in me wonders if they are going the route of Whor because Captain Marvel was wholesale rejected (especially if you believe the rumor that DC juked the box office numbers buying up entire theater showings to artificially inflate the box office) and Brie Larsen just too fucking unlikable and toxic a human being to be allowed to be the face of the franchise going forward.

Also, it makes me wonder, movie-wise, if they will dig out the "Thunderstrike" name for Jane explicitly to sidestep one of the biggest complaints about the Whor story in terms of how it turned Thor into a codename/stripped Thor of his actual name. Or go even further and just do a shared body gimmick with Jane/Thor merged together and Jane switching places with Thor when she summons the hammer.
 
The cynic in me wonders if they are going the route of Whor because Captain Marvel was wholesale rejected (especially if you believe the rumor that DC juked the box office numbers buying up entire theater showings to artificially inflate the box office) and Brie Larsen just too fucking unlikable and toxic a human being to be allowed to be the face of the franchise going forward.

Also, it makes me wonder, movie-wise, if they will dig out the "Thunderstrike" name for Jane explicitly to sidestep one of the biggest complaints about the Whor story in terms of how it turned Thor into a codename/stripped Thor of his actual name. Or go even further and just do a shared body gimmick with Jane/Thor merged together and Jane switching places with Thor when she summons the hammer.
The Avengers Assemble cartoon, which I have no idea if it's still airing, went with calling Jane-Thor "Thunderstrike" already. They also skipped over Thor losing his hammer or being unworthy. It's odd.
 
Making an Eternals film reeks like trying to recapture the lightning in a bottle Guardians of the Galaxy was. Hope it works, but no one is clamoring for it.
Maybe it will carve a path for the Fantastic Four, but if they can't make them work on the literally fourth attempt (besides the Roger Corman one) put a fork in it.
 
Wtf is EVS supposed to do about the WC speds? REEEEE at them? Order them not to be autistic any more? It wouldn't work.
And when he did the speds here swapped to bitching about free speech and trying to control people.
HAHA Thank Fuck I left the MCU train with Endgame. :story:
I thought she was out given her disappearance in Thor 3 and the break up line said by the fangirls. I wonder if she'll actually try to give a shit this time or if she'll challenge Brie for best piece of cardboard.
 
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Hard to feel bad for an internet sperg that made a million dollars pissing everyone in the world off.
This dude on Facebook is exceptional for even mentioning FGC's name.
This is the same idiot (2VS/FGC) who blames KF for people talking shit then demands people quit talking shit or he'll leave.

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"There are no secret discords plotting gay ops" > posts Facebook chats where he plans gay ops.

I mean. He's not "lying".
 
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How did her books sell?

Jane Foster's femThor sold consistently well, at around 40k units a month. I suspect that probably had something to do with the art and the fact that femThor had the best art of any Marvel book for around two years. Real Thor was reintroduced in 2016 as The Unworthy Thor, and his book consistently outsold femThor by around 10k units.
 
Now I'm wondering what was the point of setting up Tessa Thompson's Valkyrie as the next Thor in Endgame. Was MiB reaction so bad that they had to call Natalie Portman?

Riri has to be coming. We have black Captain America and lady Thor in the movies now, nothing can save us.
 
Funny, I stopped following Comic Pages Without Context because they kept posting modern Marvel shit which - in most cases - comes off as wacky and awkward even in context. Of course the moderator of a shitty Facebook page has a hate-boner for EVS.

Of course, I always said Ethan's content was repetitive and cringy a fuck, but I guess if it gets him revenue then by all means let him shit up the YouTubes with eight thousand more videos about Rian Johnson. I'm not against people getting paid.

On the subject of the MCU, we all knew they were waiting for the end of Endgame to go whole-hog with the current year Marvel trash. I'm not miffed about black Captain America since, unlike Nick Spencer, they gave Steve Rogers a respectful send off and I generally like Anthony Mackie. I had a suspicion they were going to whip out Fem-Thor when they made Thor an extended, unfunny fat joke in Endgame and they didn't disappoint. Taika Watiti is a consistently good director, but it's going to take a miracle for him to yank a solid performance out of Natalie Portman.
 
Making an Eternals film reeks like trying to recapture the lightning in a bottle Guardians of the Galaxy was. Hope it works, but no one is clamoring for it.
Maybe it will carve a path for the Fantastic Four, but if they can't make them work on the literally fourth attempt (besides the Roger Corman one) put a fork in it.

Personally, I think Shang-Chi is the blatant attempt to recapture the lightning in a bottle of Black Panther, albeit with an Asian-American audience. But, the lead guy is pretty enjoyable in 'Kim's Convenience', and he's been wanting to play in a capeshit flick for a long time now, so I hope the movie does well.

Personally, I'm curious to see how Phase 4 will pan out, especially if they're going to go woke this time. Love them or hate them, the 20-odd Marvel flicks so far were popular because they were easily digestable to the normie masses, largely unoffensive, and didn't take any huge risks (yes, this includes Black Panther). The only misstep, albeit from a critical standpoint, was Captain Marvel, but that's only because Brie Larson's attitude didn't help much and no one learned from the media brouhaha of Ghostbusters '16. But overall, they didn't have anything that would cause conservatives to riot or slightly left-of-center people to get salty about.

FemThor is probably a Hail Mary Pass after how poorly received Captain Marvel was. I know a lot of people are rolling their eyes already, but I think Taika Waititi could pull it off in a way that might make just about everyone okay with it. Eternals seems like too high concept for the casual audience, so we could theoretically be in for the first major failure of the MCU, I don't know.
 
Personally, I think Shang-Chi is the blatant attempt to recapture the lightning in a bottle of Black Panther, albeit with an Asian-American audience. But, the lead guy is pretty enjoyable in 'Kim's Convenience', and he's been wanting to play in a capeshit flick for a long time now, so I hope the movie does well.
This, Black Widow, and Doctor Strange are the only ones of the announced Phase 4 that look promising to me. Retconning Iron Man 3 is deeply necessary.
Eternals seems like too high concept for the casual audience, so we could theoretically be in for the first major failure of the MCU, I don't know.
Eternals looks like straight shit just based on the cast. I don't know enough about the Eternals from the comics to know what storylines they might be setting up with this movie, though.

I would love to see a FF movie that takes place in the '60s and doesn't try to fit the team into the present-day MCU. Kind of like the Hank Pym/Janet Van Dyne Cold War adventures hinted at in the Ant-Man movies, it would be nice to keep the FF separate from the capeshit. They were always best as a Cold War weird science adventure team.
 
Eternals looks like straight shit just based on the cast. I don't know enough about the Eternals from the comics to know what storylines they might be setting up with this movie, though.

I don't think anyone knows what Eternals is about at this point. It has a diverse cast, which IMHO isn't a bad thing, but what concerns me is that we have little to no plot details whatsoever, aside from hypothetical ones about it revolving around Ikaris and Sersei. Other than that, nothing. My guess is they'll try to hype up the diversity aspect, mainly as a way to divert any sort of criticism if it ends up being a turd at the box office.

If it's far removed from the MCU, like the first GOTG movie was, maybe it might have a chance of being halfway decent.
 
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