Netflix's The Witcher series

Lauren Hissbitch and her cronies will single-handedly sink Netflix.

My thoughts and prayers to the people who work in that terrible company, but it's past time.

It needs to go down.
It seems to me women in leadership positions are just fucking up everything in entertainment. Not just artistically, but to the bottom line...financially.

Look, I may joke and enjoy as coming off as a misogynistic douche, but you can't find compotent female executives?

I refuse to believe, even with bullshit metoo landscape, you couldn't find savvy ladies....

Getting back to the Witcher series: Everyone looks miscast outside of Ciri.

Even the look of it, looks like Imitation GOT with occasional lightning....

That said, still could be decent for what it is. Also, why was the cast doing an interview in a kindegarden class room?
 
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I really don't know where you guys get this optimism concerning that Hissrich lass. She wrote 3 episodes of Daredevil S2, is that such a milestone of quality?
I agree, she's not as obnoxious as the patriarchy smashers of the writing team, but don't act like she hasn't had her fair share of bullshit.

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She's a lefty. All hollywood writers are. And some of those posts are bad, yeah. But given the flood of autism she's getting from /v/ posters she's really being quite restrained compared to what you'd expect from a twitter harpy.

That first tweet is pretty dumb though. The assumption that the characters are white doesn't come "from games" or "from the fans". It comes from the books themselves, which are set in the Northern Kingdoms reminiscent of Eastern Europe, and where "dark skinned foreigners" attract a lot of attention because they're exotic.
If there were many black & pajeets in the Northern Kingdoms, then why would the books emphasize how much people from Ofir and Zerrikania are different?

I don't know. While I think sperging about the trailer or sending the sjw writing team Twitter dms is unbecoming, I sincerely doubt that the Netflix adaptation will be any good. And yes, it will be entirely their fault.

Calling it now - they're going to demonize Nilfgaard as a patriarchal society, the sorceresses will be feminist icons and "strong independent women", the plot is going to be dumbed down like crazy for the sake of more epic action scenes, and I wouldn't put it past them to shove trans & gay characters aggressively down our throats (there are gay people in the books, no issues there. But I don't think those Netflix execs know the meaning of the word "measure").
Zerrikanians being black is actually an assumption on the part of readers reinforced by the games. They're not described as black when they're introduced.

But Netflix mandates American demographics in everything, not much you can do there.

The irony is if they do paint Nilfgard to be this backwards patriarchy then at least it will give a few fans a chuckle. Nilfgard is the progressive empire of many different cultures, it's a multicultural society, and furthermore the Nilfgardians have at least some Elven blood in themselves as well. As well as not being specifically anti-elf anti-dwarf, and at points helping the Scoiatel.

The gay characters will be Elves probably, though honestly if you ever needed a better candidate then it should be the Dwarves, think about it, large group of squat little men living together in the woods. Away from the people who treat them like second class citizens, and don't understand their culture or their lifestyles. 🤔
Nilfgaard practices chattel slavery, doesn't allow free practice of magic, and restricts elves to reservations. They help the Scoia'tael in precisely the ways the Soviet Union "helped" Polish freedom fighters in WW2. Used them as cannon fodder then dumped them as soon as possible. They're multicultural in that all empires are inherently multicultural.
 
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This is looking like it's going to be an amazing adaptation.

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She's a lefty. All hollywood writers are. And some of those posts are bad, yeah. But given the flood of autism she's getting from /v/ posters she's really being quite restrained compared to what you'd expect from a twitter harpy.
I agree with you somewhat, but come on nigga. This is the same woman who said "we're not going to go through and change races" and that first tweet is idiotic. Yeah, not everyone is described as white, but she blatantly changed the races of people who are described as white. If that's restrained compared to the utter insanity of the rest of the writing team, then yeah, they are a bit of a joke.
 
This is looking like it's going to be an amazing adaptation.

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The black Fringlla actress, literally, looks like a chimp.

I actually don't really care, if they make some ethnic swaps. But cast an attractive looking black woman, at the very least.

When it comes to casting black female leads, do casting directors walk into the nearest back alley; see the nearest black female homeless person and go, "Hey, would you like to be in The Witcher?"

Also, why didn't they make Triss a chink, if they were going for the diversity trifecta?

Latin looking people are over represented.

Interestingly enough, if you dump the nigress and slide the actresses to right: Thats 2/3 good casting.
 
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Zerrikanians being black is actually an assumption on the part of readers reinforced by the games. They're not described as black when they're introduced.
It's an exotic southern land filled with warriors, dangerous beasts and "striped horses". Yeah, it doesn't say they are black, but is it such a wild assumption that it's based on Africa? If you have to have blacks in your adaptation, this would be the best place for them. But no, the setting where people hate those with pointy ears or think Geralt is a freak is totally fine with black people roaming around, sure.

Also, why didn't they make Triss a chink, if they were going for the diversity trifecta?
Asians are basically white when it comes to the oppression Olympics. They are successful in their own nations and in the West and don't ask for gibs, so white Hollywood writers and producers won't get as much diversity points by representing them.
 
I agree with you somewhat, but come on nigga. This is the same woman who said "we're not going to go through and change races" and that first tweet is idiotic. Yeah, not everyone is described as white, but she blatantly changed the races of people who are described as white. If that's restrained compared to the utter insanity of the rest of the writing team, then yeah, they are a bit of a joke.
It's restrained compared to almost every writing team in the business. You act like them all being raging lefties is new. If we went by tweets then HBO's Chernobyl is just a giant metaphor for DRUMPH's refusal to acknowledge global warming.

I'm not saying that these changes are good. I'm just acknowledging that all these complaints would be exactly the same regardless of if the series turns out good or not so there's not much initial cause for alarm.

No idea what the fuck is going on with that Nilfgaardian armor though. Their costume designer should be shot.
 
It's restrained compared to almost every writing team in the business. You act like them all being raging lefties is new. If we went by tweets then HBO's Chernobyl is just a giant metaphor for DRUMPH's refusal to acknowledge global warming.

I'm not saying that these changes are good. I'm just acknowledging that all these complaints would be exactly the same regardless of if the series turns out good or not so there's not much initial cause for alarm.

No idea what the fuck is going on with that Nilfgaardian armor though. Their costume designer should be shot.
I think the armor has cloth on top of it. So, it be some sort of ceremonial Guard?

Regardless, it doesn't look good(cause you need more contrasting colors). But, I think it will look different under certain light....
 
It's restrained compared to almost every writing team in the business. You act like them all being raging lefties is new. If we went by tweets then HBO's Chernobyl is just a giant metaphor for DRUMPH's refusal to acknowledge global warming.

I'm not saying that these changes are good. I'm just acknowledging that all these complaints would be exactly the same regardless of if the series turns out good or not so there's not much initial cause for alarm.

No idea what the fuck is going on with that Nilfgaardian armor though. Their costume designer should be shot.
Yeah, I know man. I just get whiplash from Hissrich. As much as she really says some reasonable things sometimes, you could absolutely make the argument that she plays nice to get people to watch it and then she says shit like "the book doesn't describe every character as white explicitly so it's cool that we make up their race instead of using our brains at the fact that quite a few of the main characters are described as white and it's pointed out when characters look out of place by having a darker skin tone" and "fuck your arguments proving me wrong, representation, we're doing whatever we want" and that's what she really feels. The tweet partway down where she talks about people snarking about Geralt being gay and calling them assholes because he's not going to be and she's following the books is so fucking stupid considering she can't even follow book descriptions, from the Elves to Fringilla.

I think the armor has cloth on top of it. So, it be some sort of ceremonial Guard?

Regardless, it doesn't look good(cause you need more contrasting colors). But, I think it will look different under certain light....
I'm pretty sure it's their actual armor, sadly. The only compliment I can give it is that the emblem looks somewhat alright. It's like the costume designer had enough brain cells to know Nilfgaard's armor having a black color scheme looks good and then they used them all up and came up with the most terrible shit possible.
 
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I actually don't really care, if they make some ethnic swaps. But cast an attractive looking black woman, at the very least.

The problem is any time they do this shit for the sake of some woke agenda they focus to much on their agenda rather than making the content good. From the sounds of it the writers don't care much for the source material and are pretty much going to do their own thing.
 
I mean, there's a lot of conflict between those who want a gaming depiction of 'The Witcher' and a novel depiction of it. Both of them clash pretty fucking hard. I mean,
Andrzej Sapkowski wrote Geralt dying by pitchfork and Yennefer dying by healing and then being resurrected on the fucking Isle of Avalon with Ciri literally fucking off into the sunset with Sir Galahad from the Knights of the Round Table. TO GO TO CAMELOT. I mean, shit gets fucking weird.

Obviously, I prefer the game version. But vidya doesn't need adaptions, because I can, you know, just play it.

ALSO you guys are forgetting one element with casting: Netflix corporate. The writers might have made them all white or mostly white, but someone from up on high might have said 'You can't do your show with all/mostly white characters. Figure it out.' So they had to change some of them. We don't know what internal politics might have been involved, since Netflix has paid for more 'woke' shows than not. Which is why it lost 17 billion fucking dollars in a day.

No idea what the fuck is going on with that Nilfgaardian armor though. Their costume designer should be shot.

I don't actually believe the 4chan post. It plays WAY too much into exactly what people who hate SJWs want to hear. Do you really think the showrunner who wrote the Punisher episodes in the beginning of Daredevil Season 2 REALLY made them literal dickheads? That's just too much.

My guess is that they wanted Nilfgaard to be visually distinct from the North and have an intimidating presence but MASSIVELY fucked up. Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to a terrible costume designer.

"I mean, the drawing looks ok, are you sure this will be good?"

"Of course!"

*Makes Scrotum armor*

"This is just a prototype right? I mean, we can go back to the drawing board. We're still in pre-production."

"Oh, I already made 500 of them."

"....fuck my life."

It's restrained compared to almost every writing team in the business. You act like them all being raging lefties is new. If we went by tweets then HBO's Chernobyl is just a giant metaphor for DRUMPH's refusal to acknowledge global warming

Yeah, you clearly can't go by what a writer says on Twitter. Its rare these days, but a lot of these can separate out their message from their work. Chernobyl was not and is not a metaphor for Trump in any way.

My thoughts are 50/50 on the trailer.
 
Do you really think the showrunner who wrote the Punisher episodes in the beginning of Daredevil Season 2 REALLY made them literal dickheads? That's just too much.
She didn't, only one of her credited episodes features the Punisher (Ep.9, with the Punisher and Fisk in prison).
I don't think that 4chan post is true either, but c'mon guys, you treat Hissrich like she was responsible for the best parts of Daredevil and has proven herself to be extremely capable. 3 general episodes of one season of Daredevil and 5 (out of 8!) episodes of the blandest shit known as The Defenders are hardly compelling writing cases in my book.
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ALSO you guys are forgetting one element with casting: Netflix corporate. The writers might have made them all white or mostly white, but someone from up on high might have said 'You can't do your show with all/mostly white characters. Figure it out.' So they had to change some of them. We don't know what internal politics might have been involved, since Netflix has paid for more 'woke' shows than not. Which is why it lost 17 billion fucking dollars in a day.

Hollywood TV writers rooms are required to sign statements saying they'll place minorities in their shows, according to the podcast Scriptnotes, IIRC. (One of the two hosts is a co-creator behind Chernobyl.) Of course, the hosts are insane progs and think that's great.
 
Hollywood TV writers rooms are required to sign statements saying they'll place minorities in their shows, according to the podcast Scriptnotes, IIRC. (One of the two hosts is a co-creator behind Chernobyl.) Of course, the hosts are insane progs and think that's great.
When did this start?
 
Honestly I got a bit of a chick-flick vibe from the trailer. Lots of drama and hunky Geralt. I mean I don't mind either of those things but I definitely got the impression that it was aiming at women, which is odd because I've always assumed the majority of Witcher fans to be male. Also I feel like it seems to have too much of a generic GoT look to it as opposed to the distinctly Eastern European feel of the games and arguably the books as well. Tldr too much talking not enough slaying also don't make it GoT 2.0
 
Hollywood TV writers rooms are required to sign statements saying they'll place minorities in their shows, according to the podcast Scriptnotes, IIRC. (One of the two hosts is a co-creator behind Chernobyl.) Of course, the hosts are insane progs and think that's great.
But Chernobyl has a full white cast.

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Look, I may joke and enjoy as coming off as a misogynistic douche, but you can't find compotent female executives?

All the competent, intelligent women are at home raising children because they realized it was foolish to spend their lives building up a corporation's legacy and future while ignoring their own.
 
Look, I may joke and enjoy as coming off as a misogynistic douche, but you can't find compotent female executives?
Gale Anne Hurd can't be everywhere.

Hollywood TV writers rooms are required to sign statements saying they'll place minorities in their shows, according to the podcast Scriptnotes, IIRC. (One of the two hosts is a co-creator behind Chernobyl.) Of course, the hosts are insane progs and think that's great.
The BBC does this but I didn't know it was also in Hollywood.
 
When did this start?

I'm not sure, but my impression is less than a decade ago. I honestly can't remember when I heard about that, and on reflection I'm less confident it was exactly as I recounted. But I do remember hearing about it.

Something else from Scriptnotes I've posted before that I'm very confident recounting: a listener wrote in expressing frustration with an apparent inability to break into TV writer's rooms via the usual routes. (I think he started as a gopher for the staff, which is common.) He had been trying for a while. The hosts responded that an active effort was being made now to hire minorities and women as writers, and that as a white male he would just have to try harder and prove he was worth it anyway. Both hosts approved of this practice and were pretty smug about their bigotry. (Both are men, but one is gay, and that other is a Jew. Shocking, I know.)

It could be that "diversity casting" is an informal initiative being taken by SJW-types in television production. Or it could be a calculated attempt to sell every show to everyone as a possible audience, and they're just spinning it as a political move. (The latter makes more sense to me.)
 
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