Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Hmm. This reminds me of something... Let's tweak a few things here.
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It's amazing how easy it is to make a "Is the subject of this tweet a Witch or a Sex Pest?" game out of their bullshit.

It's the SJW Gish Gallop. Just throw as many lies out there as humanly possible, hundreds, thousands, doesn't matter if they're all absolute bullshit. If there's a single one you can't outright disprove, you automatically lose and we go straight for the execution.
 
Well, thanks to her own tweets, I matched up our newly-emerged "victim's" story to one from the ANN article. She's mentioned in an older (but still post #KickVic advent) tweet that her story was used.

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Pretty funny how her oldest tweet on Vic is the thread she made where she lightly criticizes his "homophobia," but she was somehow in his fan club?
 
As some people discussed even if Vic does win, then what? He'll be unemployed, might be considered radioactive to other dubbing companies, he'll never be Broly again, and he lost everything. Even if he win the case (I hope he does. I really do), his life is practically fucked at this point.


On the subject, do anybody know his RL address? I just want to send him something. I really want to send him something.
 
As some people discussed even if Vic does win, then what? He'll be unemployed, might be considered radioactive to other dubbing companies, he'll never be Broly again, and he lost everything. Even if he win the case (I hope he does. I really do), his life is practically fucked at this point.


On the subject, do anybody know his RL address? I just want to send him something. I really want to send him something.

find the rangers discord or fb and ask for his fan pobox, no doubt he has a fan mail address
 
Ok even if he did kiss the cheek what’s wrong with that? A lot of cultures ( especially Latino and euro ) that kiss on the cheek when they hug or greet each other and it’s not out of malice or predatory shit .
Jesus Christ, wake me up if anybody else “comes forward” and it’s actual sexual assault.

They’re trying to keep the pressure up to hide the fact that they don’t actually have any first hand accounts of anything close the worst of what they’ve been insisting for months that Vic is guilty of. By couching it all in this neofeminist emotional bullshit language they’re trying to make it seem worse than it is. I mean, not respecting personal space? Wake the fuck up and realize that you called this man a pedophile and you’re going to have to do a lot fucking better than that.

Part of it is desperation, and part of it is them honestly being so deluded that they think that this is what it was about all along. They simply can’t accept the truth that the are morally in the wrong, and that their reckless words had devastating consequence. They’re so ethically bankrupt, self-righteous, and egotistical, that they can’t possible conceive that they are anything but morally justified in their actions. They’ve convinced themselves of the lie that Vic’s vanilla public affection really is as destructive and problematic as the heinous actions they’ve been implying openly since January.

Open your goddamn eyes to the truth that you’ve treated this like a game to stroke your own sense of virtue, and in doing so have neglected the material facts of the issues whenever it suited your interests, and not the best interests of everyone involved.

If you can’t look at the blatant lies in Rial and Toye’s filing and not see the evidence stacking up that this whole ordeal is bullshit top to bottom, then you need to seriously reevaluate your approach to this case.
 
As some people discussed even if Vic does win, then what? He'll be unemployed, might be considered radioactive to other dubbing companies, he'll never be Broly again, and he lost everything. Even if he win the case (I hope he does. I really do), his life is practically fucked at this point.

He will be disconsolate and saddened for life, just + ~$5,000,000 or so.

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a very weak sauce culture war...

What does vic mignogna have to do with this culture war

It’s been predicted that this would be the case for at least a year and a half. Basically it’s a cross of the #MeToo train with no brakes and SJWs creeping into nerd shit, something people predicted would not only happen to anime, but be the next giant front. Also, it’s been said that Vic was just one name on a “broken staircase” hitlist that would lead to an industry wide purge. IIRC, Vic was only targeted because some Hazukari guy was on the list and he was chummy with ANN. The only reason we’re where we are is because Nick heard about Vic’s situation and signal boosted it and directed Vic to Ty’s law firm. (Also, wasn’t it said that Vic was already looking to sue for defamation? Because if that’s true, maybe this thread would be here still, but probably quieter).

If anime is part of the culture war, this is definitely the Stalingrad.

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Not just conservative but alt-right.
 
He will be disconsolate and saddened for life, just + ~$5,000,000 or so.

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You mean around 20 million or so since if he wins, all the defendants have to fork over 5 mil. Each defendant independently.
Unless Moronica is considered a single entity. If so, then 15 million. That'll be enough for him to start his own dubbing studio and company if he really wanted.
 
We have another accuser, Kiwis! (Big surprise...)

And what a coincidence, it's from the same event as Kara Edwards' alleged "assault" too!

Interesting, she has nice tits tho.
 
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You mean around 20 million or so since if he wins, all the defendants have to fork over 5 mil. Each defendant independently.
Unless Moronica is considered a single entity. If so, then 15 million. That'll be enough for him to start his own dubbing studio and company if he really wanted.
Pretty sure he's seeking one to five million in total, not from each defendant individually. It's probably why we're looking at joint and several liability.

Of course, that $1-$5 million is compensatory damages. That doesn't count exemplary damages.
 
Pretty sure he's seeking one to five million in total, not from each defendant individually. It's probably why we're looking at joint and several liability.

Of course, that $1-$5 million is compensatory damages. That doesn't count exemplary damages.
Exactly. I believe Ty's strategy is to go for joint and several liabilty so that they can plunder Funimation for the full amount of any judgement they win.
What I'm curious about is whether Funi/Sony will bother to sue MoRon and Jamie for their share of the judgement.
 
Vic just dropped some info at the 20:44 minute mark.
Keep an eye on this:
Nice. That's within my personally acceptable travel distance for an event like that. I've been to other cons and they were interesting enough. Saw celebrities but never met any. Henry Winkler touched my arm as he excused himself while walking by. Thinking about accusing him of rape now...though he might be a Chad like Vic and refuse to roll over.

Anyways Vic is one of the very few people I would want to stand in line for. Most anyone else I'd be cool with just looking at and thinking "neat, I just saw C-3P0 and that bitch Shannon Doherty." But Vic deserves the support, and he seems like a genuine person.

Thanks for pointing this out. Hopefully they don't fucking drop him.
 
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Not just conservative but alt-right.
honestly I sometimes wished the internet never existed so we couldn't have chicken shits like him miss informing people. why are liberals here in the US so miss informed why does this dip shit think that all conservatives are alt-right. fucking politics and your judeing of fucking people have nothing to do with it , infact less so they are more willing to hear you out .

But I'm not here to talk about politics i'm here to talk how calling Vic alt-right is redarded . a friend of mine saw him in a convention tell off a fucking anti-gay anti-(i guess weeb) protestor that was infront of a con to shut his mouth . not many fucking people would go up to a guy with a sign that says god will smite you for liking anime and tell him to buzz off .

I honestly can't belive how people who want to be progressive be so fucking agressive with terms and attacks of character. I just want this to end , honestly I feel sad when a great guy like Vic might have difficulty to get work just because someone told a huge lie and because an anime news site ( which was probably starving for news) created a hit piece, right out of the fox news hand book of how to stay relevant and popular. and the fucking double standards my god.

I can't wait for this to be over so Vic can prove in the court of law he was defamed and fired for nothing . I really wished by some miracle people could think without their heads up their ass
 
As some people discussed even if Vic does win, then what? He'll be unemployed, might be considered radioactive to other dubbing companies, he'll never be Broly again, and he lost everything. Even if he win the case (I hope he does. I really do), his life is practically fucked at this point.


On the subject, do anybody know his RL address? I just want to send him something. I really want to send him something.

I continue to defy this belief. Will he go back to Funimation? Almost certainly not. Funimation would need to be seriously shaken up to drop out all the cockroaches to let him back in. Will he voice Broly again? Likewise, he'd need Toei to intervene either by putting their foot down over who gets to voice big boy or who gets Dragonball. Will he be radioactive to other dubbing companies and conventions? Honestly, I don't think so.

In fact, I think even RT has a chance of taking him back - idiots like Shannon and Luna or no - so long as it can be proven that Monica is a liar. While it's hard to prove a negative, in this case, I actually suspect there's conclusive proof that Monica is lying. Assuming this case can survive TCPA and any settlement deal requires the reveal/admission of any secrets that BHBH needs, civil conspiracy and lies will be revealed and proven. Remember that before this fujoshi still said this garbage all the time. This was a known thing already that no one believed. The only reason this time is different is because Funimation and the voice actors involved provided a veneer of believability to it, so these people believed them.

No matter what Lemoine, John and Sam say, the current defendants are the crux of the damage done to Vic. While, yes, there will always be some people who believe because they're fanatics, I think this is a case where the negative can actually be proven. Disarm them, and most of the damage can actually be mitigated.
 
Oh boy. Can't wait for this one to get dismantled and then another bitch that's somehow-connected-to-all-the-others-but-it's-totally-not-a-conspiracy-guys appears. This is the most exceptional hydra ever.

I'm not sure which is better:
-Cleaving off the heads of this hydra and cauterizing the stumps.
or
-Waiting for the weight of its own lies to bury it alive.

Either way, it's funny how quickly these stories crop up- and then instantly get smashed back into the ground.
 
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