Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

[Night Owl]

Now this is baffling. You started with 1 boy and 1 girl, and now you have 1 "boy" and 1 "girl". And both of them have a higher chance of not making it to 30 years old, all because they likely wanted to --God forbid -- play with the others' toys and wear their clothes.

If someone's grown up with siblings of a different gender, of course you're going to want to find some common ground.

Grew up with two older brothers and ended up very tomboyish. So much so I struggled to relate to other girls once I started going to school. Does that mean I want to be a man? Hell no. Just the environment I was raised in was predominantly male when my parents were off to work.

Socialization starts at home.

 

[Trilby]

Grew up with two older brothers and ended up very tomboyish. So much so I struggled to relate to other girls once I started going to school. Does that mean I want to be a man? Hell no. Just the environment I was raised in was predominantly male when my parents were off to work.

Socialization starts at home.

And good for you for not thinking otherwise!

 

[northstar747]

Grew up with two older brothers and ended up very tomboyish. So much so I struggled to relate to other girls once I started going to school. Does that mean I want to be a man? Hell no. Just the environment I was raised in was predominantly male when my parents were off to work.

Socialization starts at home.

aww look at this egg dont worry i was in denial too when i was in egg mode, come let mama hatch you.

 

[cantankerous jackalope]

Really interesting interview. An endocrinologist who fights against transing children talks about biology, hormones, trans politics & how he thinks this shit will finally end (not in a good way).

Murr was unable to convince the public at large of the dangers of blindly pushing an ideology onto innocent children, making him tonight’s biggest loser.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

making him tonight’s biggest loser.

Nah, the losers are the children

 

[YikNemoShmoall]

The parents are so 'loving and accepting' (SOP for parents?) that they have;
1. given the label trans to their kids when it's a hard enough head wrestle for adults ..and is totally unnecessary. These kids can be a feminine boy and a masculine girl without even knowing that they are or labeling it.
2. given them hormones that will affect their health and fertility. so not loving or accepting.

Edit. good call for creating a dead end on your genes though..

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Also I gotta say it:

1. Fat, hideous mother clearly loving the shit out of what is probably the only positive attention she has gotten since she was a newborn.

2. Jewish last name. It's not that I go looking for these things, it's just that they keep popping up and making me wonder what the actual fuck is going on in certain cultural subgroups to make them so fond of certain types of perversion.

It's not really that they're Jewish per se. Nobody in Borough Park is trooning out their kids. The cultural reason is that most Jewish immigrants in the late 19th/20th centuries settled in large Northern cities, and the longstanding Jewish emphasis on education meant that their children disproportionately went to college when that was still a guarantee of propelling you to the middle class. When white middle class college educated urban Northerners started becoming liberal on trans issues, that included Jews, and in many Northern cities, that demographic has a fairly large Jewish percentage. Notice how they live in Berkeley and not Little Rock. If Unitarian Universalists had easily recognizable surnames, you'd notice that too.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It's not really that they're Jewish per se. Nobody in Borough Park is trooning out their kids. The cultural reason is that most Jewish immigrants in the late 19th/20th centuries settled in large Northern cities, and the longstanding Jewish emphasis on education meant that their children disproportionately went to college when that was still a guarantee of propelling you to the middle class. When white middle class college educated urban Northerners started becoming liberal on trans issues, that included Jews, and in many Northern cities, that demographic has a fairly large Jewish percentage. Notice how they live in Berkeley and not Little Rock. If Unitarian Universalists had easily recognizable surnames, you'd notice that too.

On the other hand, remember who gave us Freud. They have some really weird cultural baggage around gender.

 

[teriyakiburns]

On the other hand, remember who gave us Freud. They have some really weird cultural baggage around gender.

The Germans?

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

The Germans?

He was a well-to-do Viennese Jew, as were most of his case studies/clients that he based his psychosexual theories on. The pre-world-wars version of the characters in a Woody Allen movie or Seinfeld.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

On the other hand, remember who gave us Freud. They have some really weird cultural baggage around gender.

Every religious group has weird cultural baggage around gender. The favorite American cardinal of conservative Catholics has talked about how gender theory is madness, but he also wears 50 foot long capes and lace skirts. Maybe that's why you don't see Catholics trooning out their sons--they see a little boy who loves lace and perfume and assume he'll grow up to be a priest!

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Every religious group has weird cultural baggage around gender. The favorite American cardinal of conservative Catholics has talked about how gender theory is madness, but he also wears 50 foot long capes and lace skirts. Maybe that's why you don't see Catholics trooning out their sons--they see a little boy who loves lace and perfume and assume he'll grow up to be a priest!

OK sure, but again, this comes down to proportions. Two percent of the population and what percent of the troons? Gotta be more than 2 percent, but I'd love to see a study. I think it has to do with the insane, emotionally incestuous overbearing moms who will push whatever is trendy on their kids to get them "ahead" even if it means destroying them as people in the process. Go ahead and shrug this off as antisemitism, but not before giving a thought to Jazz's mom and Miriam Yaniv, for instance.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

OK sure, but again, this comes down to proportions. Two percent of the population and what percent of the troons? Gotta be more than 2 percent, but I'd love to see a study. I think it has to do with the insane, emotionally incestuous overbearing moms who will push whatever is trendy on their kids to get them "ahead" even if it means destroying them as people in the process. Go ahead and shrug this off as antisemitism, but not before giving a thought to Jazz's mom and Miriam Yaniv, for instance.

It's always the moms, too, isn't it? Regardless of ethnicity. There's always been weird mothers who force dresses on their sons because they wanted a girl, but what's up with the women who troon out their daughters?

 

[teriyakiburns]

He was a well-to-do Viennese Jew, as were most of his case studies/clients that he based his psychosexual theories on. The pre-world-wars version of the characters in a Woody Allen movie or Seinfeld.

I don't really buy it. Dutch jews never did anything remotely like this. English jews just drank a lot. French Jews never amounted to anything. I'm more inclined to think being Austrian is the source of Freud's crazy, rather than any Jewish ancestry.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

It's always the moms, too, isn't it? Regardless of ethnicity. There's always been weird mothers who force dresses on their sons because they wanted a girl, but what's up with the women who troon out their daughters?

I was wondering if it's like stage moms but if that's it, where are all the Korean and desi troons? Maybe just hasn't made it to their communities yet, idk.

I get the sense that the moms who actively push their daughters to troon out really want to ride on her coattails to both attention and a vicarious experience of "manhood" (lol). OR, they are figuratively killing the competition off before they actually become an active threat.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I was wondering if it's like stage moms but if that's it, where are all the Korean and desi troons? Maybe just hasn't made it to their communities yet, idk.

I get the sense that the moms who actively push their daughters to troon out really want to ride on her coattails to both attention and a vicarious experience of "manhood" (lol). OR, they are figuratively killing the competition off before they actually become an active threat.

I know we've discussed mothers who are separated/divorced trooning out their sons, but never daughters--even though single mothers are often jealous of their daughters and think they're trying to 'steal' their step-father away. Getting rid of competition is plausible.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Ding Ding Ding

Where were all these trans kid suicides for the last 100 years? realistically the number of gender dysphoria cases should be very small and almost none existent in children.

That's going to be a real head scratcher in the future. Despite trans-related medical treatment rapidly expanding at an unprecedented scale with no gatekeeping, and trans-visibility/support in society is at its highest point since the creation of the universe, the trans-population("trans-people have always existed") is flooding out of the closet and their numbers are exploding, their shackles have come off and they can finally unite... and they're going to kill themselves in greater numbers than before or die from horrible complications like sepsis from dick crystals.

If troons have a 40% risk of killing themselves, why are we in the business of mass producing them?

During the dark ages when all of this wasn't available or promoted(prior to 2003) people seemed to do fine and kids that now would be considered closeted trans-children grew up to be healthy and normal people that are both sane and alive.

 

[IceGray]

I still think it's a mixture of running away screaming from misunderstood gender roles and refusal to grow up or take charge of your destiny.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I still think it's a mixture of running away screaming from misunderstood gender roles and refusal to grow up or take charge of your destiny.

Oh, they're taking charge of their destiny as a cute mind-controlled anime girl.

Well, for the men at least. ROGD in young women is like the new anorexia. Except everyone looks at anorexics like "ew" and transmen as "strong" or maybe "stunning."

If troons have a 40% risk of killing themselves, why are we in the business of mass producing them?

That figure is completely wrong and the study even admits they probably overestimated it, yet troons quote it as absolute Gospel of the Lord.

If troons killed themselves at those rates, let's see...it's probably around 2% of the US population transitioning, 42% of which kill themselves. Which is 3 million people. You'd have to dig dead troons out of your gutters whenever you wake up in the morning.

 

[NoFeline]

I was wondering if it's like stage moms but if that's it, where are all the Korean and desi troons? Maybe just hasn't made it to their communities yet, idk.

I'm pretty sure Korean and Desi culture is still in the second wave feminism stage. They haven't hit intersectionality yet. That's when things go wrong.