Arin Hanson / Egoraptor / Grump - "Hey I'm Grump!" of Game Grumps fame, hypocritical SJW doxer, shat himself recording a let's play

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Tbf, you're kinda right about him.

@OmnipotentStupidity does get a little extra angry in this thread for some reason.

That I will cop to. I do write a lot of posts in that tone to make for more entertaining reads (because otherwise a lot of these updates'd be a bit boring without proper context, save for shit like NG and letting the Lovelies dehydrate where there's a lot wrong to pick apart), but if it's causing people to think that I, or others here, are acting like massive A-logs, I can absolutely dial it back and just stick to the facts/topics as they come. Might not be as extensive for the people viewing the thread, but at least it'll be better structured and straight to the point, rather than digging up old hat to point out what the problem is.

...Still think justifying what everyone thinks by saying, "See all these ratings I got? That proves I'm right!" is really dumb, but eh. Nothing I can do about that.

 

[MahFibro!]

That I will cop to. I do write a lot of posts in that tone to make for more entertaining reads (because otherwise a lot of these updates'd be a bit boring without proper context, save for shit like NG and letting the Lovelies dehydrate where there's a lot wrong to pick apart), but if it's causing people to think that I, or others here, are acting like massive A-logs, I can absolutely dial it back and just stick to the facts/topics as they come. Might not be as extensive for the people viewing the thread, but at least it'll be better structured and straight to the point, rather than digging up old hat to point out what the problem is.

...Still think justifying what everyone thinks by saying, "See all these ratings I got? That proves I'm right!" is really dumb, but eh. Nothing I can do about that.

Dude, don't change how you express yourself in posts just because someone doesn't find your posts amusing. I personally find them entertaining - like a parody of how some Grumps critics overreact to Grump shenanigans.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

It's just dumb that he gets paid to be shit at his "job"

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Dude, don't change how you express yourself in posts just because someone doesn't find your posts amusing. I personally find them entertaining - like a parody of how some Grumps critics overreact to Grump shenanigans.

Oh no no no, don't misunderstand: I'm not going to stop it outright, rather I'm going to just be more overt to the fact that these aren't meant to be taken that seriously. I was initially doing that by having those "overreactive GRUMP RAGE"-type posts like you're describing interspersed with more benign commentary and my actual thoughts as the discussion went on. Unfortunately, that leads to people getting the wrong idea when they don't read through, and skip, the whole thread and I don't blame them for that. I mean, I've seen it happen on the Jerry Peet thread, it just happens.

Spoiler: Explaining the Joke

Just so it's on record here so people can point back to this if it happens again: I don't hate Arin. Throughout what I've said on here and anywhere else I happen to talk about him, it's all exaggerated. I'm being facetious half the time; at worst, I think he's a defensive LA douche with an out-of-control Jake Paul-esque fanbase. At best he's a guy with much more success than any of us will ever have who's wasting his talents away, with escapades that can be laughed at whenever people have the time to screw around in the Farms.

To tie this back into the thread discussion, as I meant to talk about this before it got derailed - I bring up Maddox a lot when talking about parallels to Arin, but that's because...yeah, ultimately Heisenburg's right: to a good few people here (myself included) there was a point in time when Arin wasn't a colossal SJW douchenozzle and was mostly likable (or at least he hid that fact very well). The thing is - just like Maddox where he pissed away all that good will in exchange for basically nothing - Arin's essentially following that same path: with all the shit-flinging, refusal to accept help from anyone, and abandoning what made him great, all in a futile pursuit of trying to chase that sweet, safe SJW goldmine, that comes with it.

When you're playing a fool's game, never be surprised when you act a fool. Because people, even if it's not warranted and when they themselves have no high ground to stand on, will laugh at how absolutely fucking stupid you're being.

At this point I'm just waiting for the inevitable lolsuit to follow, over him not paying his staff.

 

[Floop]

At this point I'm just waiting for the inevitable lolsuit to follow, over him not paying his staff.

Wait we’re still talking about Arin, right?

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Wait we’re still talking about Arin, right?

Yeah I am. The stuff with OneyPlays and DD&J not getting paid despite being on Grumps' payroll was still a thing, is it not? I don't think that ever stopped being a thing, right? As I recall, they're still pretty pissed about that, Newgrounds drama notwithstanding. TBF I could also be misremembering things.

 

[MahFibro!]

Yeah I am. The stuff with OneyPlays and DD&J not getting paid despite being on Grumps' payroll was still a thing, is it not? I don't think that ever stopped being a thing, right? As I recall, they're still pretty pissed about that, Newgrounds drama notwithstanding. TBF I could also be misremembering things.

What I don't get is why did they continue working for someone who didn't pay them (whether in a timely fashion, or at all)? Where was the benefit?

 

[Love Machine]

chugga atleast bothers to do a playthough previous to a lets play and does his research
Arin on the other hand cant even follow a walkthough

I didnt mean to come off like I was shit talking him, more so commenting on the fact that he doesn't participate in multimedia faggotry.

 

[Suck the Cock]

What I don't get is why did they continue working for someone who didn't pay them (whether in a timely fashion, or at all)? Where was the benefit?

Because Youtuber culture, and Game Grumps in particular, tries to foster this casual air of friends having a good time and supporting each other because they're friends. It's not a real job, it's just guys sitting around a couch playing video games! That just happens to make thousands of dollars and requires professional editors to keep going. Let's have some casual friend time, I'll pay you whenever it's no biggie, thanks for doing this great favor for me.

 

[Gallstonesavior]

What I don't get is why did they continue working for someone who didn't pay them (whether in a timely fashion, or at all)? Where was the benefit?

The benefit is the parasitic hope that the exposure does something for you - One of the biggest problems with the entertainment industry in general is that everyone is out for themselves. No one in the grumps believes in “Game Grumps” everyone is working to benefit themselves, not the company.

Arin uses his money to buy loyalty from talent by propping up projects they care about instead of hiring people who want to work there getting experience doing work that needs to be done. The entire company is full of make-work and needless expenditure. Why are there seven people in the room when they do power hour? Because you might get on camera! Why do you tubers go through editors like candy? Because no editor by trade would give a shit about screen time or “fan” recognition. They staff with fame wannabes, and those people never work to improve - they do the bare minimum to “make it”. And i do mean fame wannabees - not artists.

I live in an area where the art scene is big our business hires a lot of “Artists” part time. Most are complete fuckwits. unwilling to put real effort into their craft or anything they do. They all whine about under appreciated they are. Im not even talking about artists in general, the successful ones are some
of the hardest working people you will meet - but fame chasers are corrupted garbage, and they attract like minded individuals. Luckily for us they always implode with spectacular fashion.

 

[X-Shaped Weeaboo]

I live in an area where the art scene is big our business hires a lot of “Artists” part time. Most are complete fuckwits. unwilling to put real effort into their craft or anything they do. They all whine about under appreciated they are. Im not even talking about artists in general, the successful ones are some
of the hardest working people you will meet - but fame chasers are corrupted garbage, and they attract like minded individuals. Luckily for us they always implode with spectacular fashion.

Oh my God, a city of Arin Hansons and Andrew Dobsons sounds like a genuine horror story.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Because Youtuber culture, and Game Grumps in particular, tries to foster this casual air of friends having a good time and supporting each other because they're friends. It's not a real job, it's just guys sitting around a couch playing video games! That just happens to make thousands of dollars and requires professional editors to keep going. Let's have some casual friend time, I'll pay you whenever it's no biggie, thanks for doing this great favor for me.

The worst part about it is the many of their other employees got paid for their efforts on Dream Daddy, or so we've been told. At the very least, we know for a fact that Arin personally gave funding to (and gave a gigantic section of the office towards) the Dream Daddy team. I mean, shit: have you seen the employee list and see just how much of it is allocated to Dream Daddy, or Dream Daddy-related products!? It's insane.

And yet coincidentally around that time, DingDong, Julian, and Oney were talking about hardware issues impacting recordings in the Grump Space, Doodle Doods - despite being their most popular show at that point before TMPH, due to the fact that it was basically just a reformatted episode of the April fools' Day Toon Grumps - was suddenly cancelled out of nowhere due to Oney's "sudden departure", several of the Grumps crew was found lying about shit, DingDong/his family's phone number just happened to leak due to "someone in the office" (leading to his father learning DD was gay, which he was not at all happy about, to put it mildly), Ross is currently in therapy over marital problems and "personal conflicting issues", and now it comes out that certain individuals weren't getting paid, right around the same time several Newgrounds friends associated with Oney/SleepyCast just so happened to decide to call Arin out over attempting to cancel other people, using suspiciously similar tactics to the Dream Daddy team...all happening alongside the extremely sudden schedule shift that also happened to follow most of this the following year that it happened, and was when the most controversies started happening in quick succession.

...Now I'm not saying that Arin might be so vindictive against Newgrounds and his past that he'd be willing to destroy the site and everyone involved as some form of egotistical heralding victory, so as to conform to the SJW crowd built with Dream Daddy...

I'm just saying that with all those things happening all stacked one on top of the other like that, on top of the really aggressive vitriol after nothing but silence on both sides, it just really makes you
,dunnit?

 

[mr dink]

DingDong/his family's phone number just happened to leak due to "someone in the office" (leading to his father learning DD was gay, which he was not at all happy about, to put it mildly)

Whaatt the fuck, source? I heard about the phone number leak, didn't hear it caused him to get outed to his family

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

Whaatt the fuck, source? I heard about the phone number leak, didn't hear it caused him to get outed to his family

Both DingDong and Julian have touched upon it, albeit briefly, in their posts about why they left OneyPlays and about their impact on social media on both themselves and the content they watch.

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Ding Dong on Twitter

“Next Friday I'm planning on getting back to streaming again - just needed some time to breathe. Apologies if it seemed like a bigger deal than it was, personal things from the past few years had been chipping away at me and I needed to hit the brakes for a bit.”

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Ding Dong's Twitter Thread : OneyPlays

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r/OneyPlays - Ding Dong's Twitter Thread

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Sorry this post is a little late, I wanted to do some comics to accompany this write-up and lighten the mood, it took me a few days since I try to restrict doodles to my downtime. People I know will...

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(Could've sworn this was talked about here before, but it turns out my memory today's just super bad.)

For the specific bit about being outed to their families, it's directly stated here in regards to Dream Daddy - any additional comments left by DingDong on both r/RantGrumps and that r/OneyPlays thread seem to reaffirm this. I should stress that the problem isn't with Arin per se as he was more complacent to the whole thing, but more so with Vernon (the creative director of Grumps, and lead on Dream Daddy), and by extension that branch has started infecting Game Grumps like a tumor, so take that for what you will

The bit about old friends turning their backs on him is gone into more detail on the r/RantGrumps thread, but that's already been posted and discussed about here elsewhere, just go lookback a few pages if you're curious.

Julian specifically also talked about his disdain towards Game Grumps' content and how Egoraptor becoming a self-inflated cartoony sterilized image of himself with gossip looming over them constantly was a major fear he had because of seeing that as a potential path he might go down (something Julian and DingDong tried desperately to avoid) in that same Tumblr post.

And as we all know now, that didn't end up working.

Their families also aren't exactly supportive, period, to put it mildly. So personal phone numbers being contacted plus DingDong in fear over losing Julian and everything they worked for equals, well...you do the math.

Needless to say, working there (and on OneyPlays) was not the most favorable thing for them, and compound that with the fact that much of their audience being part of what the fanbase over "former Lovely crossover" as some have put it, and it ultimately doesn't paint a pretty picture of how this. Thankfully, the situation was deescalated internally and the families ended being reluctant, but ultimately okay with it in the end (although it could've ended much much worse).

Externally, however: it's still remembered by everyone involved, because as we all know: the Internet never forgets. They're still getting harassed and stalked over Dream Daddy to this day even, albeit not nearly to that extent.

Ultimately, it seemed that DD&J had moved on from the Grumps' drama for the most part, but...well, I mean, we all saw what happened this past week. The Lovelies will drag you down, regardless of association.

Because they're that fucking psychotic.

 

[Gordon Cole]

DingDong/his family's phone number just happened to leak due to "someone in the office" (leading to his father learning DD was gay, which he was not at all happy about, to put it mildly)

I wonder how my mom, who once sent me to conversion therapy without telling me,

wtf, poor guys.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Well, this is enlightening. I used to think DingDong and Julian were kind of cunts for being so vindictive towards an audience that is the whole reason they even got on the map; but after reading all of those blog posts? They still aren't in the right, but I understand why they have that attitude a whole lot better, now. It isn't without a good reason, at the very least.

 

[Hoss]

Well, this is enlightening. I used to think DingDong and Julian were kind of cunts for being so vindictive towards an audience that is the whole reason they even got on the map; but after reading all of those blog posts? They still aren't in the right, but I understand why they have that attitude a whole lot better, now. It isn't without a good reason, at the very least.

If I moved from Chicago to LA only to get shafted by Floridian Manlet because I disagreed with is gay daddy game, I'd be pretty fucking bitter. In fact DingDong and Julian were not vindictive ENOUGH.
Dingdong was teetering on the edge of insanity from all of that stupid shit.

Arin would sacrifice anything for a shit tweet. Suzy would sell her own husband once this tism cashflow dries up.
The most sadistic part about this is Arin knows it's falling, and he has no idea what to do. This fuck has no trade *besides the very one he shit on*, no skills, and fairly certain his education is low as shit.
Seven years of his life was dedicated in screaming at a TV sucking at fucking Zelda. While he did make money, he made fuck all experience.

 

[OmnipotentStupidity]

There's been another schedule change via the Community Tab.

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Game Grumps: Dan and Arin playin' games. Episodes now LONGER and GIRTHIER. We've changed the format up a bit and increased the length of gameplay episodes!! ...

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[MahFibro!]

There's been another schedule change via the Community Tab.

GameGrumps

Game Grumps: Dan and Arin playin' games. Episodes now LONGER and GIRTHIER. We've changed the format up a bit and increased the length of gameplay episodes!! ...

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GameGrumps - YouTube

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Dare I ask what a fan show is?

 

[mr dink]

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thanks for laying that all out for everyone. i had seen all these blogs and tweets before, i was just wondering when DD had specifically mentioned his father finding out he was gay. i don't think he ever explicitly mentions his dad...he said his extended family got contacted. and when he said friends turned their backs on him, i thought he was saying this in regards to him getting shafted by grumps after speaking up on dream daddy stuff. he even goes on to say it might not have even been grump fans doxxing him but possibly even weirdos who had been stalking him since his Best Gamers days.

in any case, whatever went down with grumps and oneyplays continues to be a huge conspiracy fest, even after them trying to clear the air. it must be real tiring for them. even tho days still seem kind of hard for DD & J the best thing they did, certainly, was distancing themselves from Arin & Co.