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I wasn't questioning if he's responsible for the consequences of his exceptional behavior. Obviously he is. What I was questioning was the implied assertion that he deserves to lose even more, because to me it seems like his rētardation:retribution ratio has been damn near 1:1.Probably because it was his horrible decisions that created those consequences
I never said anyone should support him, so I'm not really sure who you're arguing with here. I totally get why people don't want to support Tyler anymore. I'm one of those people. I was just curious why some people seem so bitter about it because that's not how I feel at all. For me it's just another Spoony situation: he started spending more time chimping out and less time on making the shit I was paying for, so I'm not paying him anymore.Edit: Furthermore, why would people be eager to support someone who essentially told everyone to fuck off if they didn't accept his mistakes, and STILL tries to stir shit and act like an edge lord? His patreon is on a downslide for a reason. I'll give you a hint: people don't want to support someone who treats them like they don't matter.
Yeah, he was definitely shitty to his fans. The consequence he faced for it was losing a shitload of those fans and having his income plummet to just above minimum wage. He should still apologize, but it's not like he's getting off scot-free either way.The way he treated his fans is abysmal. Calling them fourteen year olds and saying that they thought giving him $2 a month meant having a say in his life when his fans were only trying to help him was a bad business decision and also scummy.
He never apologized for that. He basically said, "to everyone that didn't stick by me fuck you now I know who I can't count on". As far as I'm concerned he hasn't taken responsibility but skirted around it.
Granted, the kid has serious character flaws: he's immature, he's impulsive, he's and a total mong when it comes to pet ownership. Those first two issues are what led to this entire shitstorm, so I'd say he's definitely faced the consequences for those. Flaws like that are basically self-punishing anyway: they'll continue to cause Tyler a lot of trouble he could otherwise avoid until he finally gets his shit together.He was so uneducated on cat ownership he legitimately thought that getting Blaze fixed would be bad for him because, like buying the trailer and everything else, Blaze was a spur of the moment decision.
Yeah, I can understand that, especially if you're busting your ass at a rough job. Hearing a professional manchild gloat about hisAs for the consequences I think he deserves:
Getting a real job, for one. Actually having to punch a timeclock--fast food, retail, officework, whatever--and answer to a boss in the real world.
He needs to be knocked down a few more pegs to learn to appreciate his patronbux and the position he was in. He's been sheltered from the real world for too long and that sense of entitlement needs to go.
Eyy, same here fam. I don't think he has the wisdom and maturity to turn things around, but I'd like to see him prove me wrong. IMO what he really needs is some therapy (not just SSRIs) to fix his fucked up sense of self-esteem. His crippling addiction to asspats is what's making him obsess over "da haydurrs" instead of just copping to his mistakes and moving forward.I don't want to see him crash and burn, I want to see him cop to his mistakes and do better, go back to a semblance of what he used to be.
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So it isn't that I want to see him fail completely, I want to see him get better - but I don't think he will and I don't he deserves to get back what he had or even keep what he has. Maybe with time he will.
Emp doesn't really want to do the show and they don't think Mumkey is mentally stable. Overall its probably the least necessary mumkey drama video to date which is saying something when most are just rehashesThe TL;DR for this?
Niggers update
He also explicitly mentioned the Reddit episodes during his spergout, thus exposing his whole "we're not making serious arguments" excuse as a crock of shit. Motherfucker showed up with an entire list of arguments for those episodes, and he got blown the fuck out so hard that he's still assblasted about it. Makes sense considering that most of his arguments against Reddit were "downvotes hurt my feefees."If I remember right the episode EmpLemon is annoyed about fan feedback on was the ProJared/James Charles/Boogie
God I hope so. He's so obsessed with what people think of him that his thread would be drowning in milk. I like his videos alright, but he'd produce way more entertainment as a cow.maybe he'll be the next lolcow from this particular group.
Rusty talked to Mumkey and said he seemed interested in rejoining the podcast. Emp is autistically preoccupied with forcing Mumkey to address the drama on SotY. Rusty considers Mumkey a friend and thinks it'd be a dick move to make him do that, accurately points out that Mumkey has already addressed it on his own channel. Emp remains dubious about Mumkey returning as a regular contributor, says he may just be an occasional guest. Emp goes on an extended tirade about negative comments, mentions that he was primarily motivated to make this episode because of the asspats he got at VidCon. Rusty suggests that Emp takes internet criticism too seriously, Emp insists that he doesn't in a lengthy spergout that demonstrates he actually does. Podcast closes with Rusty reiterating his human hope that his friend will come back and Emp rerunning his robotic subroutine about Mumkey having to air his dirty laundry on the podcast.The TL;DR for this?
The TL;DR for this?
Emp and Mumkey come off like that their online personas are just an extension of them, hence dicks, Rusty is usually just a genuinely nice person.I feel like at some level Rusty is there just to give us someone to actually like without any caveats.
He also explicitly mentioned the Reddit episodes during his spergout, thus exposing his whole "we're not making serious arguments" excuse as a crock of shit. Motherfucker showed up with an entire list of arguments for those episodes, and he got blown the fuck out so hard that he's still assblasted about it. Makes sense considering that most of his arguments against Reddit were "downvotes hurt my feefees."
I think ending up in juvie and under house arrest as a teenager due to the stolen slushy machine saga gave Rusty a much more mature outlook on e-drama than the other two. He's been through some actual semi-harrowing shit, and he genuinely doesn't seem to care nearly as much what random strangers online think of him. Ironically this makes him much more likable, whereas whenever the other two try deal with drama, they come off like this:Emp and Mumkey come off like that their online personas are just an extension of them, hence dicks, Rusty is usually just a genuinely nice person.
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Not gonna lie, I enjoyed Mumkey's overacting in this. Shame he'll unlikely do another collab with Internet Historian or anyone else for a while, if ever.
I might believe this coming from someone else but not from Tyler and definitely not from his current situation. There's no way she didn't break up with him. He's trying to protect his ego by pretending to have done the noble thing and broke up with her for her own good and happiness. I hope in whatever video she puts out she sets the record straight and proves she dumped him. Even if she does Tyler will call her a liar swear its not true. I'm starting to think he was that kid in school that told the most outrageous lies that no one believed and got mad when anyone said he was lying.I don't know much about Emp or Rusty but they come across in that podcast as much better people than Tyler deserves to associate with.
The fact that they're so hesitant to cut him from the show says that they care enough about him not to hurt him further.
After Liu's video, if--IF--the receipts are as damaging as we're anticipating I expect those reveals to be the final straw.
Tyler is getting offended over the idea that Liu is the one that left him. Once again.
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There's no way she didn't break up with him.
Yeah man, this histrionic pedophile DEFINITELY distanced herself from the spotlight of her own volition, that's why she's trying desperately to claw back to it.There's no way she didn't break up with him.