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True, but their appearance in Filoni Wars was pretty much all they got for almost 6-8 years. I usually consider any EU reference in Filoni Wars to be "non-canon" in Disney's shitty "canon" until it appears again in something Disney-related since Disney could just pretend it doesn't exist, much like they did with Jungle Felucians (who were referenced verbally in an episode and appeared in a deleted scene) but are still not considered official to Disney for some reason despite shit from other deleted scenes and even the unfinished episodes being considered official in later Disney media and guides. Aside from that, the only other thing Clone Commandos have appeared in are some shitty "half-canon" mobile games Disney has released which have since been canned.

It's still nice to see them again, it just a shame it had to be in such a divisive game, and that they have to share said game with Inferno Squad and the Kennedy OCs. I mean why not just make a new Republic Commando game? And to save money, just re-use assets from EAfront? The original and its characters are still popular after all these years, and it would be a good way for the fucks at EA to actually salvage what little is left of their reputation. Of course then comes the question of whether or not they can actually do that considered how possibly fucked the ownership of SW is if the rumors are true. Would explain why the next SW game is just a Force Unleashed knockoff with shitty OCs and why Bioware wasn't allowed to make KOTOR 3 despite practically begging for it.
You think Lucas also holds the rights to KOTOR? I can see him having some control over the OT and PT since they were his creations, but I'm not sure how involved he was in the rest of the EU. If that's the only reason BioWare wasn't allowed to do a reboot (I get apprehension due to their recent games, but you'd think an RPG would be a no brainer for EA), who knows how constrained the rest of the developers are.
 
You think Lucas also holds the rights to KOTOR? I can see him having some control over the OT and PT since they were his creations, but I'm not sure how involved he was in the rest of the EU. If that's the only reason BioWare wasn't allowed to do a reboot (I get apprehension due to their recent games, but you'd think an RPG would be a no brainer for EA), who knows how constrained the rest of the developers are.
His involvement was somewhat limited for the most part other than enforcing a strict set of rules and having Leland Chee and his story team act on his behalf for most decision making. Although there were projects he would personally be involved with to varying degrees. The only ones I know of are the Shadows of the Empire multimedia project, adding EU stuff in the 1997 cinematic re-release of the OT (Special Edition) as well as the prequels, some sort of involvement with the Vong and the final fates of the Solo kids (which has a little bit of drama tied to it) and being the one who wanted the Emperor to be brought back in the Dark Empire comics, with George being the one who approved the idea that the Emperor should be brought back through cloning. There was also this bit of drama over a contract. There was also the matter of Ewoks media which George was directly involved in with almost everything, like the movies, the cartoons, some books and comics but were all still classified as EU. Filoni Wars was also technically EU despite George's prominent involvement with it early on since George didn't want to put it in G Canon (which is the Canon rank of the six main films) for some reason, instead he created a new Canon rank for it called T Canon which meant "TV Canon" and was for the new line of TV media he wanted to set up, like Filoni Wars and the cancelled Star Wars Underworld (and possibly old TV media like the Droids cartoon and the Ewoks cartoon), which put them in a continuity rank all their own. There's also a few more accounts of involvements but I can't remember them. But regardless of involvement, George could still want the rights to the EU for reasons that are only known to him or possibly for the stuff mentioned above. I mean, he still holds some control over the OT and PT, being the only one who can still authorize whether or not the de-specialized editions can be screened and making sure Disney can't retcon the PT. So it stands to reason he still holds some control over EU stuff too, which includes KOTOR, not to mention "EU" is just a catch-all term for anything that's not the six main films and there's a lot of SW stuff that George might've been involved in that we don't know about.

Most recently, aside from being called to "assist" with IX (which features elements from Dark Empire either because of him or JJ), he was called on to the set of the new Mandalorian show to see if it met his approval, and according to leaks that show features quite an amount of EU stuff, although some aliens seen thus far come from TLJ. It's all baffling really. Whatever the truth is, there's no doubt there's a lot of juicy drama going on over at Disney-Lucasfilm.
 
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Apologies if this has been posted already but just dropping this here.

Saw this on FB, seem like they’re continuing on the tradition of Disney disliking unions. But honestly, all that cut content would’ve made GE worth it.
 
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His involvement was somewhat limited for the most part other than enforcing a strict set of rules and having Leland Chee and his story team act on his behalf for most decision making. Although there were projects he would personally be involved with to varying degrees. The only ones I know of are the Shadows of the Empire multimedia project, adding EU stuff in the 1997 cinematic re-release of the OT (Special Edition) as well as the prequels, some sort of involvement with the Vong and the final fates of the Solo kids (which has a little bit of drama tied to it) and being the one who wanted the Emperor to be brought back in the Dark Empire comics, with George being the one who approved the idea that the Emperor should be brought back through cloning. There was also this bit of drama over a contract. There was also the matter of Ewoks media which George was directly involved in with almost everything, like the movies, the cartoons, some books and comics but were all still classified as EU. Filoni Wars was also technically EU despite George's prominent involvement with it early on since George didn't want to put it in G Canon (which is the Canon rank of the six main films) for some reason, instead he created a new Canon rank for it called T Canon which meant "TV Canon" and was for the new line of TV media he wanted to set up, like Filoni Wars and the cancelled Star Wars Underworld, which put them in a continuity rank all their own. There's also a few more accounts of involvements but I can't remember them. But regardless of involvement, George could still want the rights to the EU for reasons that are only known to him or possibly for the stuff mentioned above. I mean, he still holds some control over the OT and PT, being the only one who can still authorize whether or not the de-specialized editions can be screened and making sure Disney can't retcon the PT. So it stands to reason he still holds some control over EU stuff too, which includes KOTOR, not to mention "EU" is just a catch-all term for anything that's not the six main films and there's a lot of SW stuff that George might've been involved in that we don't know about.

Notably, he was called on to the set of the new Mandalorian show to see if it met his approval, and according to leaks that show features quite an amount of EU stuff, although some aliens seen thus far come from TLJ. It's all baffling really. Whatever the truth is, there's no doubt there's a lot of juicy drama going on over at Disney-Lucasfilm.
Sounds like a bit of a clusterfuck. I can't help but to wonder how much more he would've wanted to give Disney full access to the brand instead of just "renting" it to them, or why Disney can't just pay royalties to him to avoid the current rut Star Wars is in (besides them being greedy, but that's too obvious).
 
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Sounds like a bit of a clusterfuck. I can't help but to wonder how much more he would've wanted to give Disney full access to the brand instead of just "renting" it to them, or why Disney can't just pay royalties to him to avoid the current rut Star Wars is in (besides them being greedy, but that's too obvious).
Such is the case with legal jargon, business politics and the strange mind of George Lucas. But in the long +30 year history of the franchise, I don't think there's ever been as much of a clusterfuck behind the scenes as there is now. So many blunders. So many questions. So many wtf moments that make you want to know more of what's going on. Especially when in regards to Galaxy's Edge which almost feels like it was purposely designed to fail.

What does Disney stand to gain from such a thing? What does nu-Lucasfilm stand to gain? Just what is happening? Even if the rumors are 100% confirmed, why did things turn out like they did over a few measly royalties when far bigger consequences were hanging in the balance?

I ask these questions but if we go solely by what Al Lutz said, then the fact of the matter is that Disney (one of the biggest companies in the world) is simply run by overconfident idiots, and that's just so surreal that it's hard to believe... yet here we are... in this bizarre state of reality... this Clown World as some call it... but me, I can only call it...
The Twilight Zone
 
Such is the case with legal jargon, business politics and the strange mind of George Lucas. But in the long +30 year history of the franchise, I don't think there's ever been as much of a clusterfuck behind the scenes as there is now. So many blunders. So many questions. So many wtf moments that make you want to know more of what's going on. Especially when in regards to Galaxy's Edge which almost feels like it was purposely designed to fail.

What does Disney stand to gain from such a thing? What does nu-Lucasfilm stand to gain? Just what is happening? Even if the rumors are 100% confirmed, why did things turn out like they did over a few measly royalties when far bigger consequences were hanging in the balance?

It could just be that there are so many moving parts with such poor communication that every individual actor thought they'd be able to grab a chair when the music stopped.
 
Sounds like a bit of a clusterfuck. I can't help but to wonder how much more he would've wanted to give Disney full access to the brand instead of just "renting" it to them, or why Disney can't just pay royalties to him to avoid the current rut Star Wars is in (besides them being greedy, but that's too obvious).

I can think of with this is the scene in the big short where the guy explains that he's going gouge them for every cent he can, but they won't care because of how much money they'll be making.


I have this feeling Lucas got his payday, and figured something similar: He's going to get every cent possible he can out of the mouse, but they shouldn't care about paying him hundreds of millions when they're raking in billions. Disney shouldn't have cared, but they got greedy, tried to muscle Lucas out, and fucked themselves over.
 
I can’t believe how delusional they are thinking Episode IX will better at the box office than Solo and Last Jedi when the brand has been slipping hard in the last four years and has two months of reshoots that ends three months before release.

Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt.

I cannot fucking wait for the trash fire to start. How sad is it that we've reached the point where I am looking more forward to reactions to the movie, than the movie itself?
 
Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt.

I cannot fucking wait for the trash fire to start. How sad is it that we've reached the point where I am looking more forward to reactions to the movie, than the movie itself?
I guarantee you they won’t show it to critics and the reactions will come after the film gets dumped in theaters.
 
I guarantee you they won’t show it to critics and the reactions will come after the film gets dumped in theaters.

At this point though, does Disney even have to? The people who will defend this will be the same pathetic Bob Chipman types that'll go to the wall for this trash, even if they don't see it. The content of the film is almost irrevelant. It's the brand and the politics the movie will push that'll matter.
 
At this point though, does Disney even have to? The people who will defend this will be the same pathetic Bob Chipman types that'll go to the wall for this trash, even if they don't see it. The content of the film is almost irrevelant. It's the brand and the politics the movie will push that'll matter.
Exactly. The movie could be JJ, wearing Carry Fisher's face as sort of a chainsaw-massacre-style mask, doing farting noises and pissing onto a life-sized statue of Luke Skywalker, the usual suspects will still claim the movie is a masterpiece. Kevin Smith will gladly tweet about this great work of art made him cry. Bob Chipman will make a dozen videos how the new Star Wars is symbolic of something something destroy male privilege something something manchild are mad cause they hate women.

IX will get amazing reviews by journos and Disney Bootlickers (both by loyal goons and by people that are afraid they might not get access to Disney movies in the future unless they fellate the rat). And everyone else will just get a nice wad of cash to market the movie for Disney, packed into an article that pretends to be a critic view on the movie.
 
I can’t believe how delusional they are thinking Episode IX will better at the box office than Solo and Last Jedi when the brand has been slipping hard in the last four years and has two months of reshoots that ends three months before release.
"After TLJ and Solo"
What are you talking about?
Everyone loved TLJ and Solo and only Russian Bots and incels think differently!
The Hollywood/Leftist bubble must be a truly delusional and terrifying place.
 
The Canto Bight station hotel for Galaxy's Edge will not only be an exclusive shit hole but cost $1000 a night?!
After the massive failure of GE, how could they think this is a good idea?

I've discussed the Hotel in detail before along with all its likely false promises on page 538 for those who want to know more about the Hotel's clusterfuck.
 
"After TLJ and Solo"
What are you talking about?
Everyone loved TLJ and Solo and only Russian Bots and incels think differently!
The Hollywood/Leftist bubble must be a truly delusional and terrifying place.
Fun Story I know the guy who did the "Russian Bot" Story

the media was moronic in how they presented it ::he also went a little to far with his results::
 
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