DESMOND IS AMAZING / desmondisamazing / Wendylou, Andrew, & Desmond Napoles - Child being abused/sexualized by parents for financial gain and fame.

[feelingabitemu]

Children having fun dressing up in clothes they like, dancing around shitly to music they enjoy, is wonderful. Supporting them enjoying themselves is amazing, genuinely letting them find their style is perfect. Children who want to be Ru Paul and prance around their hallway putting on a show? Cool.

Dancing around like world weary ladyboys who are too drugged up to even pretend to enjoy themselves is not. Desmond, and those like him, are being shoved down a shit filled exploitation chute that we're all supposed to cheer on in the name of progress. It's just upsetting.

 

[Mrs Paul]

What these idiots fail to realize is that it's not about Desmond turning out gay, or like dressing in girly clothes. It's the way Mom and Dad are presenting him to the public.

It's very possible to know you're gay or straight at a young age, I imagine. My first crush was when I was about 7 or 8 -- Michael J. Fox. And if a boy likes playing with Barbies instead of trucks, and likes dressing up in dresses and playing with make-up, hey, more power to him. It's really no different from a girl being a tomboy. My cousin and I used to play dress-up in old clothes all the time, and sometimes my mother would fix our hair and our make-up. (NOT, however, like Desmond's -- but just a wee bit so we could feel all grown-up and glamorous)

And if Desmond is gay? It's 2019. Who gives a shit?

But when you dress your 12 year old up like Lady GaGa and have him dancing around to "Like a Virgin", or hang out with convicted murderers -- that's NOT cool. It wouldn't be cool if it were a girl, either. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO POINT OUT. And this counter argument, "oh, but child beauty pageants!!!!" Who the FUCK said they were okay either? It's a classic example of the red herring fallacy.

I wouldn't allow any child to perform like Desmond -- saying it's okay because it's all about PRIDE is bullshit.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

What these idiots fail to realize is that it's not about Desmond turning out gay, or like dressing in girly clothes. It's the way Mom and Dad are presenting him to the public.

It's very possible to know you're gay or straight at a young age, I imagine. My first crush was when I was about 7 or 8 -- Michael J. Fox. And if a boy likes playing with Barbies instead of trucks, and likes dressing up in dresses and playing with make-up, hey, more power to him. It's really no different from a girl being a tomboy. My cousin and I used to play dress-up in old clothes all the time, and sometimes my mother would fix our hair and our make-up. (NOT, however, like Desmond's -- but just a wee bit so we could feel all grown-up and glamorous)

And if Desmond is gay? It's 2019. Who gives a shit?

But when you dress your 12 year old up like Lady GaGa and have him dancing around to "Like a Virgin", or hang out with convicted murderers -- that's NOT cool. It wouldn't be cool if it were a girl, either. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO POINT OUT. And this counter argument, "oh, but child beauty pageants!!!!" Who the FUCK said they were okay either? It's a classic example of the red herring fallacy.

I wouldn't allow any child to perform like Desmond -- saying it's okay because it's all about PRIDE is bullshit.

They love to ignore that for years and years only the lowest of the low enjoy glitz child pageants and they're blatant pedo-bait. Not. Really. Helping. Their case.

 

[Mrs Paul]

They love to ignore that for years and years only the lowest of the low enjoy glitz child pageants and they're blatant pedo-bait. Not. Really. Helping. Their case.

And how many people thought that Jon-Benet's beauty queen status may have been a factor in her murder.

 

[ATaleOfSofa]

And how many people thought that Jon-Benet's beauty queen status may have been a factor in her murder.

Yes, and the parents were playing dumb just like Wendylou is with Tom O’Carroll’s “love letter” to Desmond. No one is “victim blaming” Desmond, just like how no one was victim blaming the tragic JonBenét. People are blaming their respective parents for putting their children in harm’s way to begin with. Yes, pedophiles and murderers are out there and they will go after anyone they want but why the fuck would you bait one with your own child and then cry that you never saw it coming?

 

[Nykytyne3]

And if Desmond is gay? It's 2019. Who gives a shit?

I think we can safely conclude that Desmond is, in fact, gay. His mom enabled him and was naive enough to let the media and perverts exploit him, but it all started with her 70 IQ ass just trying to be supportive of his natural interest in crossdressing. Which is not a thing straight boys are interested in.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

What these idiots fail to realize is that it's not about Desmond turning out gay, or like dressing in girly clothes. It's the way Mom and Dad are presenting him to the public.

It's very possible to know you're gay or straight at a young age, I imagine. My first crush was when I was about 7 or 8 -- Michael J. Fox. And if a boy likes playing with Barbies instead of trucks, and likes dressing up in dresses and playing with make-up, hey, more power to him. It's really no different from a girl being a tomboy. My cousin and I used to play dress-up in old clothes all the time, and sometimes my mother would fix our hair and our make-up. (NOT, however, like Desmond's -- but just a wee bit so we could feel all grown-up and glamorous)

And if Desmond is gay? It's 2019. Who gives a shit?

Tomboys are more accepted in society than boys dressing as girls, though. And, for whatever reason, that's still a problem.

See, one, as a parent, also has to be realistic. If my son wanted to dress as a girl, I have to accept that he could be a victim of being bullied in school and being physically attacked for it. It's not an ideal situation, but it's what it is. There is something I've seen in many leftists and that's it that they love others become martyrs of their causes. I know a gay dude who was beaten as a kid because he was gay and, as an adult, he wanted to force people out of the closet. He didn't mind they could be also beaten up, that they could lose their jobs, or families. He wanted everybody to fight his fight.

Something similar happens with Desmond. Maybe the kid indeed loves to dress up and he's gay. But he's too young to make these decisions on himself. If my son was gay and he's like 18, I'd support his decision, but Desmond was still too young for this and his parents are purposely exposing him to any damage he could get out of something he hasn't consciously decided to do. A child's safety should be the priority of the parents rather than making statements out of them or using them to fight a good cause.

 

[Skullshatterer]

Beauty pageants are creepy, they dress little girls like grown women, with heavy make-up and fake teeth. Some as young as 1-2 years old. You see most girls don't want to do it and when asked a lot of them reply "because I was promised X food or a puppy or an expensive toy" and it's all about the mom. But who goes to see little girls in beauty pageants? Only their fat mothers and sometimes they drag their husband along too. And what time of the day? not past midnight i'm sure.

 

[stuffandthings]

God damn I'm sick of these fluffy bullshit pieces. Yes, very often gender non-conforming at a young age means that kid will end up gay. (As an aside to my point, perhaps these people should remember that they admitted that when the conversation switches back to trans kids.) But "being yourself" has jack shit to do with a young boy dancing for dollars in a skimpy outfit at 1am in a fucking adult gay bar.

Again, if we were talking about kids singing in the mirror with hairbrushes and wearing towel dresses, this argument would hold water but we're talking about dancing in front of adults. And again, there is not a ten year old in the world today who's favorite fucking song is "Violet" by Hole. Get the entire fuck out of here. Damn.

They never ever address the actual complaints. Just this strawman bullshit. No one ever said young kids shouldn't be themselves or that it isn't likely that a gender non-conforming child will grow up gay. An article no one asked for that answers no questions and is good for absolutely nothing.

Edit: the conversation on his wiki page is just ridiculous. I'm glad to see some sane people noting that not all the criticism is coming from homophobic Catholic right-wingers but for Pete's sake: "We can't be sure that VIDEO OF HIM with Micheal Alig where he sits under a painting of the date rape drug wasn't whipped up by a hate site." Like, wtf. Seriously. For sure, the whole video and also that one where he pretends to snort K are fucking deepfakes. Lord the autism of wikipedia editors knows no limits.

You are absolutely true.
Minor powerlevel, but I'm a raging homo. And before the age of around 14 I didn't have the same reactions to my sexuality that Desmond has right now at 12.
When I was his age, I was far more worried that my parents could catch me playing GTA late at night or sneaking around to watch South Park on Saturdays nights. I just had some fantasies of marrying some girl and live well with her forever, nothing else.
It's very worrying for me to see kids in such spaces, obviously the LGBT community is sexual ffs, look at your local pride parade. These kids should be more worried of not confessing to their parents that they didn't pass a test than screaming a top their lungs that they are ''queer''. Parents should tell, if they are sure that their kiddies will be gay or bi, that is nothing wrong with them, they would love them the same, but here are your chores for the next day. You aren't free to do not wash the dishes or pick up the trash because you are gay.
And if some kid before puberty claims that they are gay or bi, is a huge red flag, sketchy things are happening behind the curtain.

The other thing incredibly damaging is the few sissy boys that AREN'T gay are teased and bullied from either side for both 'being' gay and 'locking themselves in the closet' I knew a couple guys in high school and college that were absolutely emotionally wrecked from everyone taking their mancard away for their gay not-gayness. I thought the whole genderbenderblender cultural revolution was supposed to give us freedom but now everyone is running around trying to force queer stickers on tomboys and every male in musical theatre.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

I hate you Desmond. In this world of wokeness you need to wake up to the Pedophiles who masturbate to videos of you.

 

[Rekkington]

The other thing incredibly damaging is the few sissy boys that AREN'T gay are teased and bullied from either side for both 'being' gay and 'locking themselves in the closet' I knew a couple guys in high school and college that were absolutely emotionally wrecked from everyone taking their mancard away for their gay not-gayness. I thought the whole genderbenderblender cultural revolution was supposed to give us freedom but now everyone is running around trying to force queer stickers on tomboys and every male in musical theatre.

imagine being a sissy and not even being gay lol

 

[Gorilla Tessellator]

imagine being a sissy and not even being gay lol

I honestly wonder, how many sissy boys become gay, because they are not attractive to women, and so their only chance for a relationship is with another gay?

 

[SourDiesel]

The other thing incredibly damaging is the few sissy boys that AREN'T gay are teased and bullied from either side for both 'being' gay and 'locking themselves in the closet' I knew a couple guys in high school and college that were absolutely emotionally wrecked from everyone taking their mancard away for their gay not-gayness. I thought the whole genderbenderblender cultural revolution was supposed to give us freedom but now everyone is running around trying to force queer stickers on tomboys and every male in musical theatre.

Being viciously bullied for being different than the other kids is trash all around and shouldn't happen, period. This is like saying, "imagine if you didn't actually deserve it though? It would be so much worse" Dude no one deserves it. The mockery, by the way, is supposed to bully you into not being like that. No one is trying to make you into a gay man by calling you a sissy any more than they want to make you r.etarded by calling you a r.etard. The point is that you're different and they want you to stop being different.

Lots of kids get mercilessly mocked dude. Fat kids, r.etards, poor kids, smart kids... If kids picked on you when you were ten and you're still letting it affect you as an adult, like come on dude. Get over your childhood and grow up tbh. You knew guys in college that were emotionally wrecked from being picked on as kids? Get some therapy. Jesus. Imagine hating gays because you can't get over the shit little Timmy said to you on the playground when you were 8.

No hetero man becomes gay because they can't get a girl though, dude. They become an incel.

 

[FaceOfTrueHorror]

Naw, looks pretty rapey to me.

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1000 yard stare

 

[Roger Whore]

I have to say I don't like reading ITT that Desmond for sure will end up dead behind the dumpster. It's getting tiresome, and if Wendy is reading this shit, it's giving her ammunition to twist it into: "haters want him dead".

I see his situation as definitely abusive, but I can see potential for redeeming arc. He is a child of narcissistic, neglectful parents. He is trying hard to please them, because in his mind these are the only people who really care about him. He has no friends at school, and these POS are his only people in the world. But this situation will change once he will hit puberty.

You’re exactly right and I can see the chimpout now, “YOU WHITE TRUMP LOVING NAZIS KILLED MY BABY! SO WHAT IF I FORGOT TO FEED HIM OR GIVE HIM A GLASS OF WARM MILK BEFORE BED TIME OR NOTICE HIS OBVIOUS DISTRESS ITS STILL ALL YOUR FAULT!” I don’t hate this kid. I hate his parents and this whole idea that this is okay because it isnt. Jerry Sandusky pimped our kids for years. KIDS. Because Wendy is a liberal and her son is “gay” aka able to earn pity points, she gets away with it.

 

[Rekkington]

1000 yard stare

Incomprehensibly pedophilic, unforgivably Jewish.

 

[stuffandthings]

Being viciously bullied for being different than the other kids is trash all around and shouldn't happen, period. This is like saying, "imagine if you didn't actually deserve it though? It would be so much worse" Dude no one deserves it. The mockery, by the way, is supposed to bully you into not being like that. No one is trying to make you into a gay man by calling you a sissy any more than they want to make you r.etarded by calling you a r.etard. The point is that you're different and they want you to stop being different.

Lots of kids get mercilessly mocked dude. Fat kids, r.etards, poor kids, smart kids... If kids picked on you when you were ten and you're still letting it affect you as an adult, like come on dude. Get over your childhood and grow up tbh. You knew guys in college that were emotionally wrecked from being picked on as kids? Get some therapy. Jesus. Imagine hating gays because you can't get over the shit little Timmy said to you on the playground when you were 8.

No hetero man becomes gay because they can't get a girl though, dude. They become an incel.

First of all, I'm not a dude. So I wasn't projecting. I don't hate the gays, and I wasn't mistaken for one.

Second of all, I more or less agree with you. Especially with teasing as social pressure. I think sometimes that social pressure is warranted. Like teasing the asshole kid who happens to be an Aspie, because being aspie is no excuse for being an asshole. But kids can be a whole buffet of douchery.

I'm just saying that having people teasing and pressuring you on BOTH sides, both the pro gay kids and the homophobes, seemed really hard for those guys. They didn't become gay, they married women, but they had an uncomfortable time in high school and college because people kept shouting at a closet door that wasn't there.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

But who goes to see little girls in beauty pageants?

Pedos. Thing is, they have to actively go to the event and ogle the girls, the moms don't drag them to an adults only event and say "HEY EVERYBODY HERE'S THE PEDO BAIT, 20 for a blow, 50 for around the world!"

 

[SourDiesel]

First of all, I'm not a dude. So I wasn't projecting. I don't hate the gays, and I wasn't mistaken for one.

Second of all, I more or less agree with you. Especially with teasing as social pressure. I think sometimes that social pressure is warranted. Like teasing the asshole kid who happens to be an Aspie, because being aspie is no excuse for being an asshole. But kids can be a whole buffet of douchery.

I'm just saying that having people teasing and pressuring you on BOTH sides, both the pro gay kids and the homophobes, seemed really hard for those guys. They didn't become gay, they married women, but they had an uncomfortable time in high school and college because people kept shouting at a closet door that wasn't there.

Well tbh, "dude" is not a term I reserve for men so there's that.

I'm sorry if I came off more aggressive than I intended but I stand by my statements. Lots of people get bullied for lots of reasons so it's ridiculous to complain in your 20s about shit that happened when you were 8 and if it's bothering you that much, that's a problem. There's just nothing special about being bullied for being gender non-conforming rather than bullied for anything else. I guess I don't see the relevance of bringing up that it's hard for straight kids to be called gay unless you think there's something uniquely difficult about it and I don't think there is.

 

[stuffandthings]

Well tbh, "dude" is not a term I reserve for men so there's that.

I'm sorry if I came off more aggressive than I intended but I stand by my statements. Lots of people get bullied for lots of reasons so it's ridiculous to complain in your 20s about shit that happened when you were 8 and if it's bothering you that much, that's a problem. There's just nothing special about being bullied for being gender non-conforming rather than bullied for anything else. I guess I don't see the relevance of bringing up that it's hard for straight kids to be called gay unless you think there's something uniquely difficult about it and I don't think there is.

Sorry if I came off as defensive.
My opinion is the some ways it might make it slightly harder than some other teasing is that it ties into your romantic longings as a young adult, and worrying about not being able to attract your preferred gender because you 'act gay' (I'm talking more specifically about kids being teased in middle school-early college rather than as a little kid) And the fact that the teasing would be 'politically' charged and come from two sides, one side pressuring you to 'man-up' or 'dress pretty' and the other side bitching at you for 'hiding who you are'. And I'm more specifically talking about a pro-gay badgering of non-conforming kids to just 'come out' already. You're right that Homophobic teasing is as old as Aristophanes.

But yeah, no one should use being teased as a kid as an excuse for languishing as an adult. Every different kind of teasing can be dissected and analyzed from a social perspective. I knew nerdy drama girls who relentlessly teased preppy girls for being airheaded bimbos. Everyone gets teased.

Really I'm just complaining about people who try to force a different kind 'more progessive' kind of gender conformity on people by tying hobbies and how well groomed you are, and how forceful or passive you come off, to which sex your're attracted to.