Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

Scott came off as a massive pussy/piece of shit in that medium post. I couldn’t read the whole thing because it was extremely boring but also pathetic listening to him cry about what a meanie Alec was and how abused, mentally destroyed Scott was. It was one giant Scott Benson pity parade.

These people can’t stand confrontation and are passive aggressive faggots. His dumpy wife/gf made a twitter account to drag Alec anonymously but fucked up and Alec read it then told them “sorry, i’ll do better.” Imagine if Scott wasn’t a weeping vagina and had just told Alec “look either change your attitude or fuck off” right at the start when Alec first allegedly mistreated Scott.

Why would you stay in a situation unless you’re an idiot or you’re lying about what was going on.
 
Scott came off as a massive pussy/piece of shit in that medium post. I couldn’t read the whole thing because it was extremely boring but also pathetic listening to him cry about what a meanie Alec was and how abused, mentally destroyed Scott was. It was one giant Scott Benson pity parade.

These people can’t stand confrontation and are passive aggressive faggots. His dumpy wife/gf made a twitter account to drag Alec anonymously but fucked up and Alec read it then told them “sorry, i’ll do better.” Imagine if Scott wasn’t a weeping vagina and had just told Alec “look either change your attitude or fuck off” right at the start when Alec first allegedly mistreated Scott.

Why would you stay in a situation unless you’re an idiot or you’re lying about what was going on.

This is what happens when emasculated men behave like cunty women.
 
Scott Benson posted another Thing about Alec.

(Warning: Long as Fuck)

I read through this whole tome of an attempt to PR his friends suicide. Well this should give us an answer to the PR tactic they are gonna use... Double down and believe the REAL victims.

I'm gonna give a TL;DR break down of what stuck out to me, but if you don't read it These two quotes are the only take away you should have from this self centered shit bag trying to make it sound like he was in an abusive relationship with Alec too because Alec was too mean and he was working grueling 7 hour days that lead to him having PTSD and becoming an abuse victim.
-I survived Alec Holowka.
-Alec is gone. What he did to people remains.

So this reads as if he is reading everything people are writing and trying to respond back. The thing that sticks out most is he is trying to claim more credit on stuff he did for the game, as it is seen Alec is the guy who coded, wrote the score for, wrote most of the game, etc.
-"In June of 2013 I was a typical struggling freelance animator, designer, and artist. Alec saw my tweets, which he thought were funny ..."
-Alec offers to collab on a project
-"I was a 32 year old artist who had struggled to make a living since I was 18."
-"we messed around with some uninspired ideas for a few months, then one night I wrote the basic ideas that came to be Night In The Woods, and Alec liked them."
-"Alec trusted me with a lot of creative decisions on the game. This terrified me, as I had never ever made a game before. "
-"I pitched him on a central mechanic and story, and we pulled it off in maybe 10 days, if I remember correctly. It became the first real installment of the Night In The Woods project. "

32 and still struggling to make a living should tell you what kind of guy we are dealing with (especially later when he talks about those super hard 7 hour days). Alec, a self made developer who seems like he may be a little bit on the tism spectrum likes this guys animation and offers him a chance to be an adult. Scott shows contempt for the freedom Alec gives him to do his job, but seems to be guiding him with the broad strokes. Scott then tries to make it sound like Night in the Woods is 100% his brain child and he 100% created all the mechanics of the game that were coded in.

If you ever worked with the asshole like this before, he's the guy that claims he helped create that new car design because he suggested changing the color or the prototype.

-"When he suggested a kickstarter, I thought it would fail miserably, and then it didn’t. "
-"I was a full time game developer with a legal requirement to deliver a game with someone I barely knew. "
-"Alec suggested we take 6 months to make a prototype of the game. "
-"we’d made a quick not very good demo that we showed off at GDC. Our publisher Finji, who we’d hooked up with shortly after the kickstarter, got us invited to E3 that year. "

More Scott whining about having responsibility and being scared. However this is the equivalent of a master craftsman taking you on as an apprentice. Rather than focus of Alec teaching someone who never made a game before how to Finance, prototype, secure further finance, and network through Cons, all Scott focuses on is how scary everything is.

-"That fall, a little over a year into NITW development, Alec’s behavior began to become more erratic.
-"As a fellow meds-taker I knew what skipping doses might do to your headspace and moods. "
-"The work snapped Alec out of his funk. He would talk then about how he didn’t need work/life balance, that work WAS his life. "
-"I told him I’d sort of lost that mindset when it was imposed on me by jobs I’d previously had. “Oh god, I had a job once”, Alec said. “That was the worst 3 weeks of my life.” I laughed. He explained to me that he wasn’t kidding. I said ok. "

We see Alec is hard to work with a bit. Moody. Angry. Demanding. Ya know, basically your standard issue boss/co worker, but at least he takes meds for it. We also learn why Alec believed he lost too much after he was accused. When Scott jokes (but not really) about what a lazy fuck he is, Alec opens up about how he can't stand working under someone else and doesn't pick up on the social cue that Scott was joking and he is being serious and opening up.

-"Alec would say things like this sometimes. He’d talk about how he didn’t care about money, didn’t understand why people who didn’t like their jobs just didn’t leave them. He was baffled that more people weren’t quitting their jobs and following their dreams. After all, one could make lots of money if they just made a good game. At the time I felt like his downer know-it-all of a coworker, constantly telling him that this just wasn’t the way the world works. Bethany and I got it into our heads during this time that Alec had grown up in a mansion or something. But he hadn’t. He was just a guy who was clueless about the world who had gotten rich young. "

And this is why I think Alec might have had Aspergers. Scott comes off as resenting Alec for having a 'get off your ass and do it' attitude. I know Alec was a lefty, but he comes off as an Atlas Shrugged Rand fag. Scott's role becomes a bit clearer, he was Alec's autism whisperer. He explained the shit that Alec didn't get social cue with to him, and animated (who knows wtf Beth did). It also seems like Alec wasn't very sensitive to peoples excuses because he had a fucked up up bringing to and became successful.

-In 2015 more mood crazy shit and eventually seeks professional help on his own will.
-Blamed others for his actions, threatened suicide, etc. (how convenient)
-"Soon after GDC, Alec was asked to leave the place he’d been staying in Vancouver. People didn’t feel safe around him anymore. " (More why I think he had Aspergers)
-"He eventually made his way back to Winnipeg where his family could help him. He’d been burning every possible bridge it seemed, or at least from what I could tell from my distant vantage point. He seemed unwell. He disappeared for long stretches. He stopped working on Night In The Woods altogether. When we talked he’d barely say anything, or suddenly get extremely angry. At me, at the world, at an ex girlfriend, at his former housemates, at anything. "
-"The guy I’d met in 2013 had transformed into this nightmare to be around. Just pure toxicity. "
-More me me me shit about how Alec wasn't there to hold his hand while he was having a psychotic break

If we take what was said before about work driving Alec mental, it looks like Alec snapped. He went home to what seems to be only his sister who seems to hate him. It seems the work he put in before securing the publisher and funding broke him, his social akwardness and iritability ruined some relationships at the time, etc. All Scott can think about is how inconvienent Alecs mental destruction is for him.

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"I redesigned the entire game in full about 7 times that year, trying each time to get Alec excited about working on it. He’d look at a plan and say “that looks too difficult” or “whatever” and I’d redesign it again. My amateur game design notebook scribbles from back then are very funny to look at now. "
-"Muh panic attacks got worse. I had always thought that panic attacks were just feeling overwhelmed, but it turns out they’re physical things" (oh poor baby)
-"I’d stopped taking responsibility for Alec as a person, and started taking responsibility for the game, for making our team function."
-"I had a hard time saying the word “abuse” then. Still do, a bit. I’ll talk about my hatred of capitalism or the faith I grew up with "

YUP EVERYONE, THIS IS WHERE HE BEGINS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO HE TECHNICALLY IS AN ABUSE VICTIM! Scott also tries to make it sound like he stepped up and finally filled the role of leader, when he was the partner from day 1 and should of been filling in when his co creator was dropping the ball. I also love how Scott continues to try and suck up more credit beyond animator and idea guy where he redesigned the entire game 7 times and Alec shot it down and was mean and didn't listen.
HEY RETARD, YOU'RE THE FUCKING ANIMATOR! While redesigning the game 7 times (I like to imagine he pitched it as changing it to an FPS, then a 2d fighting game, then a 3d fighting game, then an MMO RPG, then a Diablo style ARG, then a puzzle game, and finally a completely text based musicless html novel about depression) seems like work to Scott 'I work greuling 7 hour shifts' Benson, to a person who isn't a lazy retarded fuck its 7 times of multiple hours wasted humoring someone who has no idea wtf they are talking about and is flinging shit at a wall hoping something sticks and they can justify being seen as important. Scott doesn't get he's wasting the time of someone worked too thin and takes it as Alec being a meanie who gave him "muh anxiety attacks"


-"Right around then something happened that was in hindsight miraculous. We’d later joke it was a Christmas miracle. Bethany had had it with Alec. One morning she created a private twitter account to vent to some friends about it. She did not hold back. Over a couple dozen tweets she laid out, emphatically, how much Alec was ruining our lives. How he was cruel to me, and how I had needed to step up and do most of the work, and how Alec was this, and that, etc. Afterward having vented, she took a walk. I woke up not long after to a Slack message from Alec. There was a screenshot of her tweets with his message: “OK.”

Bethany had forgotten to make her private account private. In her tweets she’d mentioned another game he’d been working on and I guess he had a google alert notification thing set up for it, so he was immediately alerted to this 3 follower account that was yelling about him. I panicked, called Bethany asking her what the fuck happened, jumped in the car with no shoes on, and floored it across the neighborhood to pick her up. I thought I might actually have a heart attack and die right there. My heart had been feeling weird lately. It fluttered and pumped weird. This plus the overwork led to health issues down the line. Bethany deleted the account. Bekah and Adam talked to Alec. Within a few days he… changed"

I don't know how Scott wrote this and thought it was a good idea. What he's admitting here is Beth and Scott never directly address problems to Alec. What they do instead is talk behind his back. The moment Scott has to step up because his co-worker has mentally broke, all Scott did was cry to Beth that he was working too hard (those grueling 7 hour days), then Alec sees the passive aggressive snark and hate toward him and his shitty behavior.
BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. Rather than yell at everyone, replace the team who is dead without him, and tell them to eat shit Alec accepts the criticism and takes action to correct it. If he was willing to make a change this sudden it means they NEVER even tried to address the issues to him before and he was accomidating.


-The game releases. Muh panic attacks, but things are fine
-"I’d been gently encouraging him to reach out and make amends with people he’d hurt during his bad years." (I wonder if this fucked him in the long run)
-"Over the next year I think I can say I really became friends with Alec. Or rather he’d become my cousin or something."
-"Shortly after at an industry event Bethany and I met up with some friends we rarely see for dinner. They asked me about the game launch, and how it felt now. Almost without warning, without me even knowing it happened, I broke down completely and told them the whole story of the past few years. "

Holy shit, you had a rich game dev FIND YOU and pull you out of poverty and teach you the basics on how to create a business from the ground up, he changes uncomfortable behavior because he accidently sees what you never had the balls to tell him, you have a successful game launch that changes you from 30 something who never had a stable living to indie game co creator success story, you call this man your friends, NAY YOUR COUSIN, and when a friend you hadn't seen in a while asks you how does it feel to finally come up in the world and be successful you take a moment to shit all over the guy who got you there cause he made you work a little too hard or might of not liked your ideas a little too much or had a medical issues that inconvienenced you? Get raped you wanna be #MeToo victim faggot, pop 30 Xanax with a bottle of champaign at a gaybar and have the greatest panic attack you can, maybe someone will rape your corpse and you will be the beautiful victim you always wished you were.

-"We’d decided not to work with Alec again back in 2015."
-"I warned friends who asked me back then not to work with him."
-"I confided in a small group of people what was happening to me, to Bethany."
-"The woman who cuts my hair was in roller derby and she also offered to kick his ass. " HOLY SHIT I CAN FEEL THE SOY FLOW FROM THAT
-"A lot of local friends were ready to throw down. Good friends offer to throw down."

So after he changes, the game is finished and he is like a cousin to you and changed your life forever you bad mouth him so bad PEOPLE WANT TO PHYSICALLY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM? WTF is wrong with you Scott?

- More poor me faggotry
-"I’ve spent the last week tracking down and talking to people close to Alec, people who knew him years ago, people who knew him now. It’s shocking how many of us had eerily similar experiences."

I wouldn't be surprised if Alec was a moody dick to work with who could be an angry asshole. So was Steve Jobs. No where do you describe sexual abuse. No where do you describe physical abuse. You describe a guy who expected you to know what you were doing and let you have at it, told you bluntly when your work sucked, and expected you to be competent enough to take over if he was sick. He was open about his mental issues. Rather than leave, you chose to stay because who he taught you was worth the bad you put up with which you could of not put up with if you had the balls to tell him directly like a fucking man.

-"Allegations about Alec’s behavior from right before we knew him came out last week. They were backed up by other people I trust, people who were around at the time. Suddenly a lot of what Alec said back then about his exes, his bile about the subject, back when I barely knew him, made sense. "

Wait, but I thought he was a different person now?

-"This is how he could entrap multiple women over the years and still think they were all out to get him. "
-"When I’ve talked to people this week a thing that’s been common was his threats to commit suicide if someone didn’t do what he wanted. If someone held him responsible for his actions. " (LOL ZOE IS ON FB DM'S DOING THAT TOO LOL)
-"After a lot of very hard thinking and checking up we announced that we had cut ties with Alec. Some folks reported this as us “firing” Alec, when there was nothing to fire him from. Infinite Fall isn’t a company."

Holy shit, this retard doesn't understand how his own fucking buisness arangement works. I also find it funny that the theme of Alec reaching out and offering opportunity is "entrapment" because when he starts trying to give advice how to better themselves and gets mad at their shitty behavior or in ability to meet goals he set for them he no longer wants to deal with them. Sure there is also the threatening with suicide all the time. Alec was a mentally ill asshole, but you knew this was the price of admission and you are in no way unable to just walk away at any time, you just didn't want to cause then you don't get your reward you were sticking around for.

-I want to give the guy credit for the ways he did change, at least as far as I could see. I want to say he was a brilliant developer and musician. After his 2015 absence he never quite considered Night In The Woods to be “his” game.

Wow, you are trying to steal credit from the dead. What a douche. Seems like Alec never considered it "his" game either, it's why he made you co-creator and expected you to step in his role when he was unable to physically do his job.

-"While I praise Alec’s work, consider this- people left the industry because of what he did. "

Judging by the amount of shovelware in the indie scene and the garbage people that seem to roam in these weird cliques and orbit people with actual tallent, not enough people have left. You aren't entitled to a place in the industry just cause you really really like video games

-"People developed PTSD. "

Dear diary, today the autistic coder who pulled me out of obscurity from my life of minimum wage living pulled me on a project, taught me how to get funding, taught me how to set project mile stones, gave me freedom to do what I want in my role, named me co creator, showed me how to secure further funding via confrences, but he shot down 7 of my ideas to scrap the game entirely for new redesigns and was mean to me and makes me work grueling 7 hour days. I HAVE PTSD NOW. GIVE ME XANAX PLEASE! SO TRAUMATIC.

-"Alec had prestige and money. He had what seemed to be a ticket to making your game dev dreams come true. "

And he shared that with you, even if you were unwilling to take notes or be greatful

-"He had a long pattern of picking someone he was really interested in, immediately suggesting they make a game together, making them dependent on him, and then later abandoning it and them, often in really shitty and harmful ways to add insult to injury."

Given the type of people he seemed to be picking who see 7 hour days as long hard work, I see why he'd ghost them after trying to help and realizing that they thought 3 hour work days and occasionally tweeting was what being a game dev was. Even if he ghosted people who put their hopes too high on him, whose fault is that?

-"Childish. Abusive. And when he didn’t get what he wanted, he dropped them and their game dev dreams by the wayside on his way to find someone else. "

Huh, it's almost like he expected people in a partnership with him to deliver results. kinda like it was a business

-"Because you depend on them. Because they hold control on some aspect of your life. Because you’ve just been beaten down into silence. "

No, you chose to depend on him. He is not responsible for your well being, much like you reminded everyone again and again that you were not responsible for his mental health (ahhhh, I see what you did there. Keep telling your self the bloods not on your hands)

-"I cared a lot about Alec, despite all this. But covering for and enabling the harm someone does to the people around them isn’t caring for them. Sometimes nothing turns out well. Sometime everything’s fucked. Sometimes every outcome is bad. "

Yeah, like a guy who mentored you and changed your life getting stabbed in the back for it and you shaming him to his suicide which you knew he would be prone to if he ever lost the means of being able to be an independent game creator and be forced to work under someone elses thumb for less than he was worth.



He tries to make it sound like it technically wasn't a firing. He technically is right, it was a partnership and he seems to not even have an understanding of how a company partnership even works. He probably has no clue how the fuck his paychecks for the game work. Let that sink in. The fact this fat lazy retard doesn't understand how his own co-ownership business works means Alec was even doing THAT for him too.
This lazy retard who cried over the horror of being forced into working 7 hours in a single day and tries to steal as much credit anywhere he can (probably cause its getting to him people are saying Alec did everything and outs him as the Hack he is)

And after admitting he was a changed man, cause he was an asshole with mental issues that he never addressed because none of you had the balls to tell him to address his issues and the ONE time you accidentally did tell him, he made the change wasn't even good enough for you. Because he held people hostage by offering opportunity, and abused them by telling them when they were fucking up, and its his fault people chose to put all their eggs in his basket without any binding contract.

I can see how him pulling you out of you low 32 years of non accomplishment & poverty, out of no where to teach you how to make a videogame from the ground up and hold you hostage with the promise of money and a finished product that changed your life, put so much faith and responsibility on you he feels you can handle 7 hour work days while he is hospitalized from working so much he has a psychotic break you would get PTSD and be a #MeToo survivor of the terror of Alec.

I for one look forward to the next game Scott is going to get funding for and create. I am sure it will be really good since he is so tallented and skilled and such a hard worker who gave it his all and pulled the slack when lazy abusive mean assholes like Alec were off having vacation at the local mental hospital.

What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"

Yeah, my employer entraps #MeToo with a 401k, a paycheck and multiple ensurance policies. I'm basically a sexual assault survivor.
 
What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"
I am reminded of a quote from EYE Divine Cybermancy.

"I killed my mentor, but I am not his murderer"
 
The cycle continues until the next time she needs money
Like DSP, except now having a body count. She'll fade into irrelevancy though, unlike DSP.
DSP is eternal.
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I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.
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It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/1167987093345198080
Danskin is just one of those unbearable pseudo intellectual s that you would punch in the face in the first five minutes of meeting and then fucking his girlfriend and reminding him that she does not have to settle for his two inchs.
 
This all makes me so depressed, everyone is taking sides based on ideology/strawmen and they're conveniently glazing over the fact that mental illness isn't rational, it's a messy affair that is hard to deal with and this all started because she started dragging up shit from the past when it was shown that he has and was changing for the better, I believe them about him being hard to deal with because mentally ill people ARE hard to deal with but this didn't need to happen, this could have been prevented if any single one of them grew a spine.

They wanted him to be fundamentally dead and they got the real thing because this is the reality of what they desire and they're being celebrated for it. I know better than to let lolcows affect me personally and to get mad at them but it all just feels so hopeless. All of Quinn's lies are out in the open there's proof everywhere but it's being memory holed because somehow she made all the right connections and it feels awful. How many more times can she do this before people wake the fuck up.
 
What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"
Exactly what I was thinking of. The worst part is that there are people who side with Scott on this because he said he was the victim of an accused abuser.
 
I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.
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It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/1167987093345198080
"Don't politicize a tragedy" he says as every other death is a fucking war horn to his autistic brethren as BLM and Antifa bust shit up. If a death isn't enough of a reason to yell everyone to stop and ask what the fuck we're doing, you're simply not bothered by this particular death.

Enough with the fucking "accusers wanted to help him" bullshit, if they wanted that, why the fuck did they publicly out him? It's that same fucking excuse every damn time. For once in your fucking pathetic life, Danskin, you spineless soy-sucking shit, imagine for one minute that maybe, just maybe, the women expressing concern while they ruin a man's reputation without proof are fucking lying.
 
I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.
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It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/1167987093345198080
Danskin is just one of those unbearable pseudo intellectual s that you would punch in the face in the first five minutes of meeting and then fucking his girlfriend and reminding him that she does not have to settle for his two inchs.
 
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I am reminded of a quote from EYE Divine Cybermancy.

"I killed my mentor, but I am not his murderer"

Even if Scott would of just killed the guy, it'd be better than what he's doing now.
He is trying to minimize the work he did, claim credit as his own, minimize the admitted work he did to better himself mentally claiming it is all invalid due to things that happened before he made the change, and say all opportunity he gave was more or less abuse.

People have no idea how bad ideas guys tend to be.

To start it's the typical Zero technical skill at all. They do not want to help. But want to pile on more features and keep changing things every fucking hour.

But these fucks are like onions they have layers and different species and mutations

For example despite having no technical skills they're already self proclaimed experts. For example if you want to digitally light a scene they're going to tell you how to do your job and try to be philosophical about light. Like "light and darkness should represent life and death and there are 12 different types of deaths but only one light". Because these fucks don't know that digital lights do not function like real lights. They may also want to stop all work and go to some trip (at your expense) where they will lecture to you how light is REALLY supposed to work.

Secondly they really do not play games at all. It's too much of a time investment to finish a game for them. Maybe they've seen some movies and want games to be like movies.

If you're lucky enough to force one to do work it's going to take ages. They do not want to be taught since they're experts and will get annoyed and won't listen if you try and teach them. Instead what you'll get is a series of stupid "Eureka" moments where they attempt to think outside the box(which is impossible since they don't even know how to think inside the box to begin with).
An example, You have given St. Idea Guy The Third some work to help designing the spites. He will take one look at the unfamiliar program and just sit at his desk for hours and mostly just tap at his phone. He may get up to use the bathroom at some point and bump into a cardboard box. You'll hear some rummaging and some tearing and wonder WTF is going on, so you look and you'll see the exceptional individual on the floor making cardboard objects that vaguely look like people. He'll then proclaim " I HAVE DONE IT THIS BOX WAS THE ANSWER WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ART STYLE TO RESEMBLE CHILDHOOD ARTS AND CRAFTS I'LL USE MY IPHONE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF MY CREATIONS THESE WILL BE OUR CHARACTERS!" and he'll brush his hands and pat himself on the back for a job well done.....despite doing nothing that was asked of him.

Your rant inspired me to give the break down. I read the TL;DR Scott post at work and was pissed. It reeked of shitty fat lazy empoloyee trying to hog glory and cry victim. The funny thing is in advertantly he ended up admitting what a shit bag he was, he just framed it in ways to make him look better. The crying about 7 hour days (which I kept harping on in the break down) was definately the kicker.

When I read what you wrote though, you nailed it. I mean you nailed exactly the kind of shit bad "ideas guy" Scott is (or any of these entitled wanna be indigame scene kids), while not going as TL;DR into detail. I felt I needed to breakdown exactly why Scott is such a piece of shit TL;DR frame by TL;DR frame.

TL;DR with a hell of a pay off at the end about noble families sending the unwanted children to the church to not shame the family name, and how tech companies has become the new place to send your shitty trust fund kid so you don't have to live with the shame of them being a useless human being and can instead brag about them being at a tech start up...

This is 100% correct, even if you took forever to get to that payoff. Why do you think these kids all live off trust funds and work internships that pay nothing? Its the new church adult boarding school for new noble class.
-Your tech projects fail again and again for over 10 years? Aww its okay. Its super hard to make it out there but we can at least tell people you are an entrepenuer instead of living in our basement. By then you'll have enough fake experience for us to hide you in a part of the family business that won't embarrass us.
-You become a press attention whore but still can't make money? Good job! You brought attention to our name. You are on the path to success and you at least look successful.
-You actually make it? Well, we hit the lottery and its great.

Reminded me of the Alex Jones Technopriest speeches.
 
I've seen everyone turn against someone and then that person loses everything. It always fucks them up, guilty or innocent.

People wondering why he'd commit suicide if he was innocent, well, it's fairly simple.

He had SEEN how Blowy Zoey operates. He knew the kind of pressure she could bring to bear, knew the people she had an in with, and knew the kind of media propaganda machine she could crank around to attack him. He knew she had a metric fuck-ton of cultists that she could crank around to not only attack him, black list him, freeze him out, but spread rumors about him and, if need be, make false allegations through the whisper network of that incestuous Indie Dev Scene bullshit. He'd been in the inner circle when she destroyed Enron legally and publically and made her abuse of him all about her status as a victim. He knew the Big Names(TM) would be gunning for him with the shine of Zoe's cunt-oil on their face and the smell of her asshole on his breath.

Fucking NEWSWEEK contacts him to get his side on totally unsubstantiated rumors. What's fucking next? Time Magazine? The Wall Street Journal? National Geographic?

His own sister had thrown him under the bus because she's a man-hating bitch who's hated him all her life, probably because he wouldn't give her money.
His own business partner, who apparently is a goddamn retard and dragged development down, throws him under the bus because he's seen dollar signs and a way to completely remove dude's name from everything like it's 1930's Soviet Russia.

EVERYONE turned on him, and it turned out that the old maxim was true in his case: "Is it really paranoia when they're really out to get you" and "Even paranoiacs have enemies". His therapy is instantly undone, he's seeing enemies everywhere. Hell, even the fucking Siri sitting there is against him, because God only knows how far this bitch's reach goes.

We KNOW Zoe has friends at Google, Intel, YouTube, all of it.

Now imagine you've wandered into her crosshairs years later after jamming your fingers up her ass and guiding her from the front-room where she's been laying around eating Twinkies and watching TV to the kitchen where you stand there with your fingers up her ass drinking beer while she washes the dishes and snivels "Daddy, it hurts" because of kinky BDSM that she told you that night was the most exciting and intense thing that ever happened to her.

And you see Siri sitting on your desk. Next to your computer where you have YouTube open. Where you were watching a game trailer by a Bethesda game.

And she's got contacts all through that whole fucking thing.

SHE'S IN YOUR FUCKING HOUSE!

She is listening to every word you say. She knows everything you do. Every person that looks at you, she's looking through their eyes.

There is no way out.

Nobody will believe you. Your own sister calls you an abusive scumbag and takes Zoe's side. Your partners see dollar signs, fame, and recognition by erasing your name and taking your hard work, maybe even taking your cut of the money. People you've known over a decade have suddenly taken her side.

You realize that you're Enron. Only worse, because now you know what she's capable of. How deep her contacts run. How she can be the victim even though she's the abusive piece of shit who wanted to play weird kinky games with you back when you were into that shit.

There is no way out.
There is no recovering from this.
You'll be homeless, IF YOU'RE LUCKY.
You'll be friendless. That's a given.
Your family is gone, Zoe had eaten them.

And Siri is sitting right on your desk, listening to everything you say and do, and Zoe knows people at Google who can probably get the recordings.

Unless you've got serious self image and self-esteem, unless you've got serious skills and a hard as stone mental skin, you're going to panic.

Zoe knew he had mental issues. She already knows all your secrets from a month of "Pleasure Slave, do the dishes!" dominance games. She already has your family, your friends, you clique, your circle of aquiantences.

I don't think Zoe thought he'd see all that, panic, and kill himself. I think she was going to lean on him to sign over his profits of the game to her and probably a nice chunk of change. I think Zoe went around behind his back and made sure the battlefield was prepped and ready and that he had no way out of submitting to whatever Quim wanted.

Except, no matter how bad it gets, there's always the final option.

Dude chose it.

Now everyone is panicking.
 
I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.
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It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/1167987093345198080
You can tell they're shook up from all the moral-preaching tweets they post. They're desperately trying to rewrite the narrative but it's not working. Zoe and her orbiters don't have the clout they did five years ago. A lot of the people against them are SJWs but don't know who or what Zoe is, they weren't here for gamergate. They don't realize they're supposed to worship Zoe to stick it to the gamer incels. They just liked NitW because it spoke to their teenage angst, and now they hear the guy who made it was bullied into taking his own life by this old lady they've never heard of.
 
I read through this whole tome of an attempt to PR his friends suicide. Well this should give us an answer to the PR tactic they are gonna use... Double down and believe the REAL victims.

I'm gonna give a TL;DR break down of what stuck out to me, but if you don't read it These two quotes are the only take away you should have from this self centered shit bag trying to make it sound like he was in an abusive relationship with Alec too because Alec was too mean and he was working grueling 7 hour days that lead to him having PTSD and becoming an abuse victim.
-I survived Alec Holowka.
-Alec is gone. What he did to people remains.

So this reads as if he is reading everything people are writing and trying to respond back. The thing that sticks out most is he is trying to claim more credit on stuff he did for the game, as it is seen Alec is the guy who coded, wrote the score for, wrote most of the game, etc.
-"In June of 2013 I was a typical struggling freelance animator, designer, and artist. Alec saw my tweets, which he thought were funny ..."
-Alec offers to collab on a project
-"I was a 32 year old artist who had struggled to make a living since I was 18."
-"we messed around with some uninspired ideas for a few months, then one night I wrote the basic ideas that came to be Night In The Woods, and Alec liked them."
-"Alec trusted me with a lot of creative decisions on the game. This terrified me, as I had never ever made a game before. "
-"I pitched him on a central mechanic and story, and we pulled it off in maybe 10 days, if I remember correctly. It became the first real installment of the Night In The Woods project. "

32 and still struggling to make a living should tell you what kind of guy we are dealing with (especially later when he talks about those super hard 7 hour days). Alec, a self made developer who seems like he may be a little bit on the tism spectrum likes this guys animation and offers him a chance to be an adult. Scott shows contempt for the freedom Alec gives him to do his job, but seems to be guiding him with the broad strokes. Scott then tries to make it sound like Night in the Woods is 100% his brain child and he 100% created all the mechanics of the game that were coded in.

If you ever worked with the asshole like this before, he's the guy that claims he helped create that new car design because he suggested changing the color or the prototype.

-"When he suggested a kickstarter, I thought it would fail miserably, and then it didn’t. "
-"I was a full time game developer with a legal requirement to deliver a game with someone I barely knew. "
-"Alec suggested we take 6 months to make a prototype of the game. "
-"we’d made a quick not very good demo that we showed off at GDC. Our publisher Finji, who we’d hooked up with shortly after the kickstarter, got us invited to E3 that year. "

More Scott whining about having responsibility and being scared. However this is the equivalent of a master craftsman taking you on as an apprentice. Rather than focus of Alec teaching someone who never made a game before how to Finance, prototype, secure further finance, and network through Cons, all Scott focuses on is how scary everything is.

-"That fall, a little over a year into NITW development, Alec’s behavior began to become more erratic.
-"As a fellow meds-taker I knew what skipping doses might do to your headspace and moods. "
-"The work snapped Alec out of his funk. He would talk then about how he didn’t need work/life balance, that work WAS his life. "
-"I told him I’d sort of lost that mindset when it was imposed on me by jobs I’d previously had. “Oh god, I had a job once”, Alec said. “That was the worst 3 weeks of my life.” I laughed. He explained to me that he wasn’t kidding. I said ok. "

We see Alec is hard to work with a bit. Moody. Angry. Demanding. Ya know, basically your standard issue boss/co worker, but at least he takes meds for it. We also learn why Alec believed he lost too much after he was accused. When Scott jokes (but not really) about what a lazy fuck he is, Alec opens up about how he can't stand working under someone else and doesn't pick up on the social cue that Scott was joking and he is being serious and opening up.

-"Alec would say things like this sometimes. He’d talk about how he didn’t care about money, didn’t understand why people who didn’t like their jobs just didn’t leave them. He was baffled that more people weren’t quitting their jobs and following their dreams. After all, one could make lots of money if they just made a good game. At the time I felt like his downer know-it-all of a coworker, constantly telling him that this just wasn’t the way the world works. Bethany and I got it into our heads during this time that Alec had grown up in a mansion or something. But he hadn’t. He was just a guy who was clueless about the world who had gotten rich young. "

And this is why I think Alec might have had Aspergers. Scott comes off as resenting Alec for having a 'get off your ass and do it' attitude. I know Alec was a lefty, but he comes off as an Atlas Shrugged Rand fag. Scott's role becomes a bit clearer, he was Alec's autism whisperer. He explained the shit that Alec didn't get social cue with to him, and animated (who knows wtf Beth did). It also seems like Alec wasn't very sensitive to peoples excuses because he had a fucked up up bringing to and became successful.

-In 2015 more mood crazy shit and eventually seeks professional help on his own will.
-Blamed others for his actions, threatened suicide, etc. (how convenient)
-"Soon after GDC, Alec was asked to leave the place he’d been staying in Vancouver. People didn’t feel safe around him anymore. " (More why I think he had Aspergers)
-"He eventually made his way back to Winnipeg where his family could help him. He’d been burning every possible bridge it seemed, or at least from what I could tell from my distant vantage point. He seemed unwell. He disappeared for long stretches. He stopped working on Night In The Woods altogether. When we talked he’d barely say anything, or suddenly get extremely angry. At me, at the world, at an ex girlfriend, at his former housemates, at anything. "
-"The guy I’d met in 2013 had transformed into this nightmare to be around. Just pure toxicity. "
-More me me me shit about how Alec wasn't there to hold his hand while he was having a psychotic break

If we take what was said before about work driving Alec mental, it looks like Alec snapped. He went home to what seems to be only his sister who seems to hate him. It seems the work he put in before securing the publisher and funding broke him, his social akwardness and iritability ruined some relationships at the time, etc. All Scott can think about is how inconvienent Alecs mental destruction is for him.

-
"I redesigned the entire game in full about 7 times that year, trying each time to get Alec excited about working on it. He’d look at a plan and say “that looks too difficult” or “whatever” and I’d redesign it again. My amateur game design notebook scribbles from back then are very funny to look at now. "
-"Muh panic attacks got worse. I had always thought that panic attacks were just feeling overwhelmed, but it turns out they’re physical things" (oh poor baby)
-"I’d stopped taking responsibility for Alec as a person, and started taking responsibility for the game, for making our team function."
-"I had a hard time saying the word “abuse” then. Still do, a bit. I’ll talk about my hatred of capitalism or the faith I grew up with "

YUP EVERYONE, THIS IS WHERE HE BEGINS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO HE TECHNICALLY IS AN ABUSE VICTIM! Scott also tries to make it sound like he stepped up and finally filled the role of leader, when he was the partner from day 1 and should of been filling in when his co creator was dropping the ball. I also love how Scott continues to try and suck up more credit beyond animator and idea guy where he redesigned the entire game 7 times and Alec shot it down and was mean and didn't listen.
HEY exceptional individual, YOU'RE THE FUCKING ANIMATOR! While redesigning the game 7 times (I like to imagine he pitched it as changing it to an FPS, then a 2d fighting game, then a 3d fighting game, then an MMO RPG, then a Diablo style ARG, then a puzzle game, and finally a completely text based musicless html novel about depression) seems like work to Scott 'I work greuling 7 hour shifts' Benson, to a person who isn't a lazy exceptional fuck its 7 times of multiple hours wasted humoring someone who has no idea wtf they are talking about and is flinging shit at a wall hoping something sticks and they can justify being seen as important. Scott doesn't get he's wasting the time of someone worked too thin and takes it as Alec being a meanie who gave him "muh anxiety attacks"


-"Right around then something happened that was in hindsight miraculous. We’d later joke it was a Christmas miracle. Bethany had had it with Alec. One morning she created a private twitter account to vent to some friends about it. She did not hold back. Over a couple dozen tweets she laid out, emphatically, how much Alec was ruining our lives. How he was cruel to me, and how I had needed to step up and do most of the work, and how Alec was this, and that, etc. Afterward having vented, she took a walk. I woke up not long after to a Slack message from Alec. There was a screenshot of her tweets with his message: “OK.”

Bethany had forgotten to make her private account private. In her tweets she’d mentioned another game he’d been working on and I guess he had a google alert notification thing set up for it, so he was immediately alerted to this 3 follower account that was yelling about him. I panicked, called Bethany asking her what the fuck happened, jumped in the car with no shoes on, and floored it across the neighborhood to pick her up. I thought I might actually have a heart attack and die right there. My heart had been feeling weird lately. It fluttered and pumped weird. This plus the overwork led to health issues down the line. Bethany deleted the account. Bekah and Adam talked to Alec. Within a few days he… changed"

I don't know how Scott wrote this and thought it was a good idea. What he's admitting here is Beth and Scott never directly address problems to Alec. What they do instead is talk behind his back. The moment Scott has to step up because his co-worker has mentally broke, all Scott did was cry to Beth that he was working too hard (those grueling 7 hour days), then Alec sees the passive aggressive snark and hate toward him and his shitty behavior.
BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. Rather than yell at everyone, replace the team who is dead without him, and tell them to eat shit Alec accepts the criticism and takes action to correct it. If he was willing to make a change this sudden it means they NEVER even tried to address the issues to him before and he was accomidating.


-The game releases. Muh panic attacks, but things are fine
-"I’d been gently encouraging him to reach out and make amends with people he’d hurt during his bad years." (I wonder if this fucked him in the long run)
-"Over the next year I think I can say I really became friends with Alec. Or rather he’d become my cousin or something."
-"Shortly after at an industry event Bethany and I met up with some friends we rarely see for dinner. They asked me about the game launch, and how it felt now. Almost without warning, without me even knowing it happened, I broke down completely and told them the whole story of the past few years. "

Holy shit, you had a rich game dev FIND YOU and pull you out of poverty and teach you the basics on how to create a business from the ground up, he changes uncomfortable behavior because he accidently sees what you never had the balls to tell him, you have a successful game launch that changes you from 30 something who never had a stable living to indie game co creator success story, you call this man your friends, NAY YOUR COUSIN, and when a friend you hadn't seen in a while asks you how does it feel to finally come up in the world and be successful you take a moment to shit all over the guy who got you there cause he made you work a little too hard or might of not liked your ideas a little too much or had a medical issues that inconvienenced you? Get raped you wanna be #MeToo victim faggot, pop 30 Xanax with a bottle of champaign at a gaybar and have the greatest panic attack you can, maybe someone will rape your corpse and you will be the beautiful victim you always wished you were.

-"We’d decided not to work with Alec again back in 2015."
-"I warned friends who asked me back then not to work with him."
-"I confided in a small group of people what was happening to me, to Bethany."
-"The woman who cuts my hair was in roller derby and she also offered to kick his ass. " HOLY SHIT I CAN FEEL THE SOY FLOW FROM THAT
-"A lot of local friends were ready to throw down. Good friends offer to throw down."

So after he changes, the game is finished and he is like a cousin to you and changed your life forever you bad mouth him so bad PEOPLE WANT TO PHYSICALLY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM? WTF is wrong with you Scott?

- More poor me faggotry
-"I’ve spent the last week tracking down and talking to people close to Alec, people who knew him years ago, people who knew him now. It’s shocking how many of us had eerily similar experiences."

I wouldn't be surprised if Alec was a moody dick to work with who could be an angry asshole. So was Steve Jobs. No where do you describe sexual abuse. No where do you describe physical abuse. You describe a guy who expected you to know what you were doing and let you have at it, told you bluntly when your work sucked, and expected you to be competent enough to take over if he was sick. He was open about his mental issues. Rather than leave, you chose to stay because who he taught you was worth the bad you put up with which you could of not put up with if you had the balls to tell him directly like a fucking man.

-"Allegations about Alec’s behavior from right before we knew him came out last week. They were backed up by other people I trust, people who were around at the time. Suddenly a lot of what Alec said back then about his exes, his bile about the subject, back when I barely knew him, made sense. "

Wait, but I thought he was a different person now?

-"This is how he could entrap multiple women over the years and still think they were all out to get him. "
-"When I’ve talked to people this week a thing that’s been common was his threats to commit suicide if someone didn’t do what he wanted. If someone held him responsible for his actions. " (LOL ZOE IS ON FB DM'S DOING THAT TOO LOL)
-"After a lot of very hard thinking and checking up we announced that we had cut ties with Alec. Some folks reported this as us “firing” Alec, when there was nothing to fire him from. Infinite Fall isn’t a company."

Holy shit, this exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own fucking buisness arangement works. I also find it funny that the theme of Alec reaching out and offering opportunity is "entrapment" because when he starts trying to give advice how to better themselves and gets mad at their shitty behavior or in ability to meet goals he set for them he no longer wants to deal with them. Sure there is also the threatening with suicide all the time. Alec was a mentally ill asshole, but you knew this was the price of admission and you are in no way unable to just walk away at any time, you just didn't want to cause then you don't get your reward you were sticking around for.

-I want to give the guy credit for the ways he did change, at least as far as I could see. I want to say he was a brilliant developer and musician. After his 2015 absence he never quite considered Night In The Woods to be “his” game.

Wow, you are trying to steal credit from the dead. What a douche. Seems like Alec never considered it "his" game either, it's why he made you co-creator and expected you to step in his role when he was unable to physically do his job.

-"While I praise Alec’s work, consider this- people left the industry because of what he did. "

Judging by the amount of shovelware in the indie scene and the garbage people that seem to roam in these weird cliques and orbit people with actual tallent, not enough people have left. You aren't entitled to a place in the industry just cause you really really like video games

-"People developed PTSD. "

Dear diary, today the autistic coder who pulled me out of obscurity from my life of minimum wage living pulled me on a project, taught me how to get funding, taught me how to set project mile stones, gave me freedom to do what I want in my role, named me co creator, showed me how to secure further funding via confrences, but he shot down 7 of my ideas to scrap the game entirely for new redesigns and was mean to me and makes me work grueling 7 hour days. I HAVE PTSD NOW. GIVE ME XANAX PLEASE! SO TRAUMATIC.

-"Alec had prestige and money. He had what seemed to be a ticket to making your game dev dreams come true. "

And he shared that with you, even if you were unwilling to take notes or be greatful

-"He had a long pattern of picking someone he was really interested in, immediately suggesting they make a game together, making them dependent on him, and then later abandoning it and them, often in really shitty and harmful ways to add insult to injury."

Given the type of people he seemed to be picking who see 7 hour days as long hard work, I see why he'd ghost them after trying to help and realizing that they thought 3 hour work days and occasionally tweeting was what being a game dev was. Even if he ghosted people who put their hopes too high on him, whose fault is that?

-"Childish. Abusive. And when he didn’t get what he wanted, he dropped them and their game dev dreams by the wayside on his way to find someone else. "

Huh, it's almost like he expected people in a partnership with him to deliver results. kinda like it was a business

-"Because you depend on them. Because they hold control on some aspect of your life. Because you’ve just been beaten down into silence. "

No, you chose to depend on him. He is not responsible for your well being, much like you reminded everyone again and again that you were not responsible for his mental health (ahhhh, I see what you did there. Keep telling your self the bloods not on your hands)

-"I cared a lot about Alec, despite all this. But covering for and enabling the harm someone does to the people around them isn’t caring for them. Sometimes nothing turns out well. Sometime everything’s fucked. Sometimes every outcome is bad. "

Yeah, like a guy who mentored you and changed your life getting stabbed in the back for it and you shaming him to his suicide which you knew he would be prone to if he ever lost the means of being able to be an independent game creator and be forced to work under someone elses thumb for less than he was worth.

He tries to make it sound like it technically wasn't a firing. He technically is right, it was a partnership and he seems to not even have an understanding of how a company partnership even works. He probably has no clue how the fuck his paychecks for the game work. Let that sink in. The fact this fat lazy exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own co-ownership business works means Alec was even doing THAT for him too.
This lazy exceptional individual who cried over the horror of being forced into working 7 hours in a single day and tries to steal as much credit anywhere he can (probably cause its getting to him people are saying Alec did everything and outs him as the Hack he is)

And after admitting he was a changed man, cause he was an asshole with mental issues that he never addressed because none of you had the balls to tell him to address his issues and the ONE time you accidentally did tell him, he made the change wasn't even good enough for you. Because he held people hostage by offering opportunity, and abused them by telling them when they were fucking up, and its his fault people chose to put all their eggs in his basket without any binding contract.

I can see how him pulling you out of you low 32 years of non accomplishment & poverty, out of no where to teach you how to make a videogame from the ground up and hold you hostage with the promise of money and a finished product that changed your life, put so much faith and responsibility on you he feels you can handle 7 hour work days while he is hospitalized from working so much he has a psychotic break you would get PTSD and be a #MeToo survivor of the terror of Alec.

I for one look forward to the next game Scott is going to get funding for and create. I am sure it will be really good since he is so tallented and skilled and such a hard worker who gave it his all and pulled the slack when lazy abusive mean assholes like Alec were off having vacation at the local mental hospital.

What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"

Yeah, my employer entraps #MeToo with a 401k, a paycheck and multiple ensurance policies. I'm basically a sexual assault survivor.
Thank you for doing all that work, I would be both bored and angry reading that, now i'm just angry.
 
I read through this whole tome of an attempt to PR his friends suicide. Well this should give us an answer to the PR tactic they are gonna use... Double down and believe the REAL victims.

I'm gonna give a TL;DR break down of what stuck out to me, but if you don't read it These two quotes are the only take away you should have from this self centered shit bag trying to make it sound like he was in an abusive relationship with Alec too because Alec was too mean and he was working grueling 7 hour days that lead to him having PTSD and becoming an abuse victim.
-I survived Alec Holowka.
-Alec is gone. What he did to people remains.

So this reads as if he is reading everything people are writing and trying to respond back. The thing that sticks out most is he is trying to claim more credit on stuff he did for the game, as it is seen Alec is the guy who coded, wrote the score for, wrote most of the game, etc.
-"In June of 2013 I was a typical struggling freelance animator, designer, and artist. Alec saw my tweets, which he thought were funny ..."
-Alec offers to collab on a project
-"I was a 32 year old artist who had struggled to make a living since I was 18."
-"we messed around with some uninspired ideas for a few months, then one night I wrote the basic ideas that came to be Night In The Woods, and Alec liked them."
-"Alec trusted me with a lot of creative decisions on the game. This terrified me, as I had never ever made a game before. "
-"I pitched him on a central mechanic and story, and we pulled it off in maybe 10 days, if I remember correctly. It became the first real installment of the Night In The Woods project. "

32 and still struggling to make a living should tell you what kind of guy we are dealing with (especially later when he talks about those super hard 7 hour days). Alec, a self made developer who seems like he may be a little bit on the tism spectrum likes this guys animation and offers him a chance to be an adult. Scott shows contempt for the freedom Alec gives him to do his job, but seems to be guiding him with the broad strokes. Scott then tries to make it sound like Night in the Woods is 100% his brain child and he 100% created all the mechanics of the game that were coded in.

If you ever worked with the asshole like this before, he's the guy that claims he helped create that new car design because he suggested changing the color or the prototype.

-"When he suggested a kickstarter, I thought it would fail miserably, and then it didn’t. "
-"I was a full time game developer with a legal requirement to deliver a game with someone I barely knew. "
-"Alec suggested we take 6 months to make a prototype of the game. "
-"we’d made a quick not very good demo that we showed off at GDC. Our publisher Finji, who we’d hooked up with shortly after the kickstarter, got us invited to E3 that year. "

More Scott whining about having responsibility and being scared. However this is the equivalent of a master craftsman taking you on as an apprentice. Rather than focus of Alec teaching someone who never made a game before how to Finance, prototype, secure further finance, and network through Cons, all Scott focuses on is how scary everything is.

-"That fall, a little over a year into NITW development, Alec’s behavior began to become more erratic.
-"As a fellow meds-taker I knew what skipping doses might do to your headspace and moods. "
-"The work snapped Alec out of his funk. He would talk then about how he didn’t need work/life balance, that work WAS his life. "
-"I told him I’d sort of lost that mindset when it was imposed on me by jobs I’d previously had. “Oh god, I had a job once”, Alec said. “That was the worst 3 weeks of my life.” I laughed. He explained to me that he wasn’t kidding. I said ok. "

We see Alec is hard to work with a bit. Moody. Angry. Demanding. Ya know, basically your standard issue boss/co worker, but at least he takes meds for it. We also learn why Alec believed he lost too much after he was accused. When Scott jokes (but not really) about what a lazy fuck he is, Alec opens up about how he can't stand working under someone else and doesn't pick up on the social cue that Scott was joking and he is being serious and opening up.

-"Alec would say things like this sometimes. He’d talk about how he didn’t care about money, didn’t understand why people who didn’t like their jobs just didn’t leave them. He was baffled that more people weren’t quitting their jobs and following their dreams. After all, one could make lots of money if they just made a good game. At the time I felt like his downer know-it-all of a coworker, constantly telling him that this just wasn’t the way the world works. Bethany and I got it into our heads during this time that Alec had grown up in a mansion or something. But he hadn’t. He was just a guy who was clueless about the world who had gotten rich young. "

And this is why I think Alec might have had Aspergers. Scott comes off as resenting Alec for having a 'get off your ass and do it' attitude. I know Alec was a lefty, but he comes off as an Atlas Shrugged Rand fag. Scott's role becomes a bit clearer, he was Alec's autism whisperer. He explained the shit that Alec didn't get social cue with to him, and animated (who knows wtf Beth did). It also seems like Alec wasn't very sensitive to peoples excuses because he had a fucked up up bringing to and became successful.

-In 2015 more mood crazy shit and eventually seeks professional help on his own will.
-Blamed others for his actions, threatened suicide, etc. (how convenient)
-"Soon after GDC, Alec was asked to leave the place he’d been staying in Vancouver. People didn’t feel safe around him anymore. " (More why I think he had Aspergers)
-"He eventually made his way back to Winnipeg where his family could help him. He’d been burning every possible bridge it seemed, or at least from what I could tell from my distant vantage point. He seemed unwell. He disappeared for long stretches. He stopped working on Night In The Woods altogether. When we talked he’d barely say anything, or suddenly get extremely angry. At me, at the world, at an ex girlfriend, at his former housemates, at anything. "
-"The guy I’d met in 2013 had transformed into this nightmare to be around. Just pure toxicity. "
-More me me me shit about how Alec wasn't there to hold his hand while he was having a psychotic break

If we take what was said before about work driving Alec mental, it looks like Alec snapped. He went home to what seems to be only his sister who seems to hate him. It seems the work he put in before securing the publisher and funding broke him, his social akwardness and iritability ruined some relationships at the time, etc. All Scott can think about is how inconvienent Alecs mental destruction is for him.

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"I redesigned the entire game in full about 7 times that year, trying each time to get Alec excited about working on it. He’d look at a plan and say “that looks too difficult” or “whatever” and I’d redesign it again. My amateur game design notebook scribbles from back then are very funny to look at now. "
-"Muh panic attacks got worse. I had always thought that panic attacks were just feeling overwhelmed, but it turns out they’re physical things" (oh poor baby)
-"I’d stopped taking responsibility for Alec as a person, and started taking responsibility for the game, for making our team function."
-"I had a hard time saying the word “abuse” then. Still do, a bit. I’ll talk about my hatred of capitalism or the faith I grew up with "

YUP EVERYONE, THIS IS WHERE HE BEGINS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO HE TECHNICALLY IS AN ABUSE VICTIM! Scott also tries to make it sound like he stepped up and finally filled the role of leader, when he was the partner from day 1 and should of been filling in when his co creator was dropping the ball. I also love how Scott continues to try and suck up more credit beyond animator and idea guy where he redesigned the entire game 7 times and Alec shot it down and was mean and didn't listen.
HEY exceptional individual, YOU'RE THE FUCKING ANIMATOR! While redesigning the game 7 times (I like to imagine he pitched it as changing it to an FPS, then a 2d fighting game, then a 3d fighting game, then an MMO RPG, then a Diablo style ARG, then a puzzle game, and finally a completely text based musicless html novel about depression) seems like work to Scott 'I work greuling 7 hour shifts' Benson, to a person who isn't a lazy exceptional fuck its 7 times of multiple hours wasted humoring someone who has no idea wtf they are talking about and is flinging shit at a wall hoping something sticks and they can justify being seen as important. Scott doesn't get he's wasting the time of someone worked too thin and takes it as Alec being a meanie who gave him "muh anxiety attacks"


-"Right around then something happened that was in hindsight miraculous. We’d later joke it was a Christmas miracle. Bethany had had it with Alec. One morning she created a private twitter account to vent to some friends about it. She did not hold back. Over a couple dozen tweets she laid out, emphatically, how much Alec was ruining our lives. How he was cruel to me, and how I had needed to step up and do most of the work, and how Alec was this, and that, etc. Afterward having vented, she took a walk. I woke up not long after to a Slack message from Alec. There was a screenshot of her tweets with his message: “OK.”

Bethany had forgotten to make her private account private. In her tweets she’d mentioned another game he’d been working on and I guess he had a google alert notification thing set up for it, so he was immediately alerted to this 3 follower account that was yelling about him. I panicked, called Bethany asking her what the fuck happened, jumped in the car with no shoes on, and floored it across the neighborhood to pick her up. I thought I might actually have a heart attack and die right there. My heart had been feeling weird lately. It fluttered and pumped weird. This plus the overwork led to health issues down the line. Bethany deleted the account. Bekah and Adam talked to Alec. Within a few days he… changed"

I don't know how Scott wrote this and thought it was a good idea. What he's admitting here is Beth and Scott never directly address problems to Alec. What they do instead is talk behind his back. The moment Scott has to step up because his co-worker has mentally broke, all Scott did was cry to Beth that he was working too hard (those grueling 7 hour days), then Alec sees the passive aggressive snark and hate toward him and his shitty behavior.
BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. Rather than yell at everyone, replace the team who is dead without him, and tell them to eat shit Alec accepts the criticism and takes action to correct it. If he was willing to make a change this sudden it means they NEVER even tried to address the issues to him before and he was accomidating.


-The game releases. Muh panic attacks, but things are fine
-"I’d been gently encouraging him to reach out and make amends with people he’d hurt during his bad years." (I wonder if this fucked him in the long run)
-"Over the next year I think I can say I really became friends with Alec. Or rather he’d become my cousin or something."
-"Shortly after at an industry event Bethany and I met up with some friends we rarely see for dinner. They asked me about the game launch, and how it felt now. Almost without warning, without me even knowing it happened, I broke down completely and told them the whole story of the past few years. "

Holy shit, you had a rich game dev FIND YOU and pull you out of poverty and teach you the basics on how to create a business from the ground up, he changes uncomfortable behavior because he accidently sees what you never had the balls to tell him, you have a successful game launch that changes you from 30 something who never had a stable living to indie game co creator success story, you call this man your friends, NAY YOUR COUSIN, and when a friend you hadn't seen in a while asks you how does it feel to finally come up in the world and be successful you take a moment to shit all over the guy who got you there cause he made you work a little too hard or might of not liked your ideas a little too much or had a medical issues that inconvienenced you? Get raped you wanna be #MeToo victim faggot, pop 30 Xanax with a bottle of champaign at a gaybar and have the greatest panic attack you can, maybe someone will rape your corpse and you will be the beautiful victim you always wished you were.

-"We’d decided not to work with Alec again back in 2015."
-"I warned friends who asked me back then not to work with him."
-"I confided in a small group of people what was happening to me, to Bethany."
-"The woman who cuts my hair was in roller derby and she also offered to kick his ass. " HOLY SHIT I CAN FEEL THE SOY FLOW FROM THAT
-"A lot of local friends were ready to throw down. Good friends offer to throw down."

So after he changes, the game is finished and he is like a cousin to you and changed your life forever you bad mouth him so bad PEOPLE WANT TO PHYSICALLY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM? WTF is wrong with you Scott?

- More poor me faggotry
-"I’ve spent the last week tracking down and talking to people close to Alec, people who knew him years ago, people who knew him now. It’s shocking how many of us had eerily similar experiences."

I wouldn't be surprised if Alec was a moody dick to work with who could be an angry asshole. So was Steve Jobs. No where do you describe sexual abuse. No where do you describe physical abuse. You describe a guy who expected you to know what you were doing and let you have at it, told you bluntly when your work sucked, and expected you to be competent enough to take over if he was sick. He was open about his mental issues. Rather than leave, you chose to stay because who he taught you was worth the bad you put up with which you could of not put up with if you had the balls to tell him directly like a fucking man.

-"Allegations about Alec’s behavior from right before we knew him came out last week. They were backed up by other people I trust, people who were around at the time. Suddenly a lot of what Alec said back then about his exes, his bile about the subject, back when I barely knew him, made sense. "

Wait, but I thought he was a different person now?

-"This is how he could entrap multiple women over the years and still think they were all out to get him. "
-"When I’ve talked to people this week a thing that’s been common was his threats to commit suicide if someone didn’t do what he wanted. If someone held him responsible for his actions. " (LOL ZOE IS ON FB DM'S DOING THAT TOO LOL)
-"After a lot of very hard thinking and checking up we announced that we had cut ties with Alec. Some folks reported this as us “firing” Alec, when there was nothing to fire him from. Infinite Fall isn’t a company."

Holy shit, this exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own fucking buisness arangement works. I also find it funny that the theme of Alec reaching out and offering opportunity is "entrapment" because when he starts trying to give advice how to better themselves and gets mad at their shitty behavior or in ability to meet goals he set for them he no longer wants to deal with them. Sure there is also the threatening with suicide all the time. Alec was a mentally ill asshole, but you knew this was the price of admission and you are in no way unable to just walk away at any time, you just didn't want to cause then you don't get your reward you were sticking around for.

-I want to give the guy credit for the ways he did change, at least as far as I could see. I want to say he was a brilliant developer and musician. After his 2015 absence he never quite considered Night In The Woods to be “his” game.

Wow, you are trying to steal credit from the dead. What a douche. Seems like Alec never considered it "his" game either, it's why he made you co-creator and expected you to step in his role when he was unable to physically do his job.

-"While I praise Alec’s work, consider this- people left the industry because of what he did. "

Judging by the amount of shovelware in the indie scene and the garbage people that seem to roam in these weird cliques and orbit people with actual tallent, not enough people have left. You aren't entitled to a place in the industry just cause you really really like video games

-"People developed PTSD. "

Dear diary, today the autistic coder who pulled me out of obscurity from my life of minimum wage living pulled me on a project, taught me how to get funding, taught me how to set project mile stones, gave me freedom to do what I want in my role, named me co creator, showed me how to secure further funding via confrences, but he shot down 7 of my ideas to scrap the game entirely for new redesigns and was mean to me and makes me work grueling 7 hour days. I HAVE PTSD NOW. GIVE ME XANAX PLEASE! SO TRAUMATIC.

-"Alec had prestige and money. He had what seemed to be a ticket to making your game dev dreams come true. "

And he shared that with you, even if you were unwilling to take notes or be greatful

-"He had a long pattern of picking someone he was really interested in, immediately suggesting they make a game together, making them dependent on him, and then later abandoning it and them, often in really shitty and harmful ways to add insult to injury."

Given the type of people he seemed to be picking who see 7 hour days as long hard work, I see why he'd ghost them after trying to help and realizing that they thought 3 hour work days and occasionally tweeting was what being a game dev was. Even if he ghosted people who put their hopes too high on him, whose fault is that?

-"Childish. Abusive. And when he didn’t get what he wanted, he dropped them and their game dev dreams by the wayside on his way to find someone else. "

Huh, it's almost like he expected people in a partnership with him to deliver results. kinda like it was a business

-"Because you depend on them. Because they hold control on some aspect of your life. Because you’ve just been beaten down into silence. "

No, you chose to depend on him. He is not responsible for your well being, much like you reminded everyone again and again that you were not responsible for his mental health (ahhhh, I see what you did there. Keep telling your self the bloods not on your hands)

-"I cared a lot about Alec, despite all this. But covering for and enabling the harm someone does to the people around them isn’t caring for them. Sometimes nothing turns out well. Sometime everything’s fucked. Sometimes every outcome is bad. "

Yeah, like a guy who mentored you and changed your life getting stabbed in the back for it and you shaming him to his suicide which you knew he would be prone to if he ever lost the means of being able to be an independent game creator and be forced to work under someone elses thumb for less than he was worth.

He tries to make it sound like it technically wasn't a firing. He technically is right, it was a partnership and he seems to not even have an understanding of how a company partnership even works. He probably has no clue how the fuck his paychecks for the game work. Let that sink in. The fact this fat lazy exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own co-ownership business works means Alec was even doing THAT for him too.
This lazy exceptional individual who cried over the horror of being forced into working 7 hours in a single day and tries to steal as much credit anywhere he can (probably cause its getting to him people are saying Alec did everything and outs him as the Hack he is)

And after admitting he was a changed man, cause he was an asshole with mental issues that he never addressed because none of you had the balls to tell him to address his issues and the ONE time you accidentally did tell him, he made the change wasn't even good enough for you. Because he held people hostage by offering opportunity, and abused them by telling them when they were fucking up, and its his fault people chose to put all their eggs in his basket without any binding contract.

I can see how him pulling you out of you low 32 years of non accomplishment & poverty, out of no where to teach you how to make a videogame from the ground up and hold you hostage with the promise of money and a finished product that changed your life, put so much faith and responsibility on you he feels you can handle 7 hour work days while he is hospitalized from working so much he has a psychotic break you would get PTSD and be a #MeToo survivor of the terror of Alec.

I for one look forward to the next game Scott is going to get funding for and create. I am sure it will be really good since he is so tallented and skilled and such a hard worker who gave it his all and pulled the slack when lazy abusive mean assholes like Alec were off having vacation at the local mental hospital.

What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"

Yeah, my employer entraps #MeToo with a 401k, a paycheck and multiple ensurance policies. I'm basically a sexual assault survivor.
Ya, this guy sounds like a piece of work, and a horrible friend all around. Not to mention, a turncoat, the worst crime of all.
Good luck with the next game, Scott Benson. Cause after you fail, you're gonna be working a job worse than Benson.
Those are not gonna be 7 hour days.
 
She literally made all this shit publicly and turned Alec into a target. She has thousands of exceptional followers that would do anything she asks and will seek and destroy anyone deemed a threat to Zoe.
You need to be a fucking exceptional individual and naive to think her intention wasn't to make him a target and be harassed by her followers.

She knew what she was doing. She did that shit many times already, letting her hounds devour whoever displeases her. She just didn't expect her harassment to cause the death of someone.
Again, ironic, for someone that was fighting online harassment (lol) she is one of the people to cause a suicide due to online harassment.

Exactly. Not enough attention has been focused on Chelsea being a self-proclaimed "online harassment prevention expert", yet she put Alec in the exact same abuse situation as the one that made her e-famous. Nothing about this was an accident, she knew exactly what she was doing because she had already experienced it. No journalistic person looking at this in a remotely objective manner could come to a different conclusion, yet the narrative is exactly what you expect from the shitbirds in current year media.

As you said, the only accident was that she thought this was an opportunity for some attention and cuckbux while unpersoning a guy who was mean to her years ago, but it turns out he was in a fragile mental state and killed himself instead.
 
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I'm beyond disgusted with this situation.

They didn't warn eachother, they fucking dropped a close associate & colleague over unproven accusations.

"That they still cared for him... that they believed he could do better"
BETTER?! Is that why they had no qualms about using mob rule to target Alec?
He was a part of their circle, clearly shared their morals & politics, what reason was there for this to have blown up like it did?
These fucks are all about self-care and mental health, yet when push comes to shove, they're content to use nukes when nerf darts would have stones.

"Wish he were still alive", I'm certain they didn't desire his death, they just thought believing a supposed victim and immediately denouncing someone who they knew was prone to suicide was the right course of action.
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It's clearly all those chuds just want to start GG again, isn't it? It's never your fault, never your mistake,
never your fuckup.

Go back to playing pretend activist and "serious thinker" on your YT, Innuendo.
Take care to never grow beyond the hugbox and do make another video series about why people radicalize and get angry at this kind of shit, maybe you'll hit the point eventually, you unbelievably myopic individual.

https://twitter.com/InnuendoStudios/status/1167987093345198080

Holy christ these indie dev "idea guys" are only able to see the world in binary. They cannot comprehend anything more complex than a 2 side issue? Pro-Anti. Gamer Gate or anti-GG. They can't grasp the idea that people just think what happened to a guy was kinda fucked up. They immediately go into team sport mode because anyone who choses to misremember a toxic relationship as abusive and weasle it into being sexual abuse because the relationship is in nature, might be kinda shitty.

Take a good look all indie game devs who roll in this circle. Picture any bad relationship you had with any of these insane lunatic harpies being reframed to make you an abuser. Make no mistake you will be next, it will not happen to you for any other reason than "I wanted some attention and my friend just #MeTooed a guy and it looked like so much fun", there will be no time limit (even your highschool and middle school years will be on trial), you will be guilty until proven innocent, and even when you produce the evidence she will pretend she is just moving on and people won't care anymore.

And honestly.... I can't wait to see it happen to all of you. I could give less of a shit. GG, anti GG. I will laugh and meme dumb Gamer Gate 2 go home gamer girl garbage, or saying that Zoe quinn didn't kill Alec.... but she should have! All while you struggle to get your funding back. I don't care. This is the ultimate trash fire, and you all did it to yourselves for being spineless and weak.

It's sad what happened to this one mentally ill guy. From the Scott post, he seems like a genius who would try and find struggling artist types he liked and try to teach them how to become successful. He seems like a guy who constantly learned that artist types don't usually have strong work drives and are overly sensitive and unable to address someone directly. He seemed like a flawed damaged guy

But the rest of you.... You have had the warning shot with Alec and are choosing to not take it as the deadly serious warning it is. I'm gonna love watching what happens next to both hunter and prey!
 
I read through this whole tome of an attempt to PR his friends suicide. Well this should give us an answer to the PR tactic they are gonna use... Double down and believe the REAL victims.

I'm gonna give a TL;DR break down of what stuck out to me, but if you don't read it These two quotes are the only take away you should have from this self centered shit bag trying to make it sound like he was in an abusive relationship with Alec too because Alec was too mean and he was working grueling 7 hour days that lead to him having PTSD and becoming an abuse victim.
-I survived Alec Holowka.
-Alec is gone. What he did to people remains.

So this reads as if he is reading everything people are writing and trying to respond back. The thing that sticks out most is he is trying to claim more credit on stuff he did for the game, as it is seen Alec is the guy who coded, wrote the score for, wrote most of the game, etc.
-"In June of 2013 I was a typical struggling freelance animator, designer, and artist. Alec saw my tweets, which he thought were funny ..."
-Alec offers to collab on a project
-"I was a 32 year old artist who had struggled to make a living since I was 18."
-"we messed around with some uninspired ideas for a few months, then one night I wrote the basic ideas that came to be Night In The Woods, and Alec liked them."
-"Alec trusted me with a lot of creative decisions on the game. This terrified me, as I had never ever made a game before. "
-"I pitched him on a central mechanic and story, and we pulled it off in maybe 10 days, if I remember correctly. It became the first real installment of the Night In The Woods project. "

32 and still struggling to make a living should tell you what kind of guy we are dealing with (especially later when he talks about those super hard 7 hour days). Alec, a self made developer who seems like he may be a little bit on the tism spectrum likes this guys animation and offers him a chance to be an adult. Scott shows contempt for the freedom Alec gives him to do his job, but seems to be guiding him with the broad strokes. Scott then tries to make it sound like Night in the Woods is 100% his brain child and he 100% created all the mechanics of the game that were coded in.

If you ever worked with the asshole like this before, he's the guy that claims he helped create that new car design because he suggested changing the color or the prototype.

-"When he suggested a kickstarter, I thought it would fail miserably, and then it didn’t. "
-"I was a full time game developer with a legal requirement to deliver a game with someone I barely knew. "
-"Alec suggested we take 6 months to make a prototype of the game. "
-"we’d made a quick not very good demo that we showed off at GDC. Our publisher Finji, who we’d hooked up with shortly after the kickstarter, got us invited to E3 that year. "

More Scott whining about having responsibility and being scared. However this is the equivalent of a master craftsman taking you on as an apprentice. Rather than focus of Alec teaching someone who never made a game before how to Finance, prototype, secure further finance, and network through Cons, all Scott focuses on is how scary everything is.

-"That fall, a little over a year into NITW development, Alec’s behavior began to become more erratic.
-"As a fellow meds-taker I knew what skipping doses might do to your headspace and moods. "
-"The work snapped Alec out of his funk. He would talk then about how he didn’t need work/life balance, that work WAS his life. "
-"I told him I’d sort of lost that mindset when it was imposed on me by jobs I’d previously had. “Oh god, I had a job once”, Alec said. “That was the worst 3 weeks of my life.” I laughed. He explained to me that he wasn’t kidding. I said ok. "

We see Alec is hard to work with a bit. Moody. Angry. Demanding. Ya know, basically your standard issue boss/co worker, but at least he takes meds for it. We also learn why Alec believed he lost too much after he was accused. When Scott jokes (but not really) about what a lazy fuck he is, Alec opens up about how he can't stand working under someone else and doesn't pick up on the social cue that Scott was joking and he is being serious and opening up.

-"Alec would say things like this sometimes. He’d talk about how he didn’t care about money, didn’t understand why people who didn’t like their jobs just didn’t leave them. He was baffled that more people weren’t quitting their jobs and following their dreams. After all, one could make lots of money if they just made a good game. At the time I felt like his downer know-it-all of a coworker, constantly telling him that this just wasn’t the way the world works. Bethany and I got it into our heads during this time that Alec had grown up in a mansion or something. But he hadn’t. He was just a guy who was clueless about the world who had gotten rich young. "

And this is why I think Alec might have had Aspergers. Scott comes off as resenting Alec for having a 'get off your ass and do it' attitude. I know Alec was a lefty, but he comes off as an Atlas Shrugged Rand fag. Scott's role becomes a bit clearer, he was Alec's autism whisperer. He explained the shit that Alec didn't get social cue with to him, and animated (who knows wtf Beth did). It also seems like Alec wasn't very sensitive to peoples excuses because he had a fucked up up bringing to and became successful.

-In 2015 more mood crazy shit and eventually seeks professional help on his own will.
-Blamed others for his actions, threatened suicide, etc. (how convenient)
-"Soon after GDC, Alec was asked to leave the place he’d been staying in Vancouver. People didn’t feel safe around him anymore. " (More why I think he had Aspergers)
-"He eventually made his way back to Winnipeg where his family could help him. He’d been burning every possible bridge it seemed, or at least from what I could tell from my distant vantage point. He seemed unwell. He disappeared for long stretches. He stopped working on Night In The Woods altogether. When we talked he’d barely say anything, or suddenly get extremely angry. At me, at the world, at an ex girlfriend, at his former housemates, at anything. "
-"The guy I’d met in 2013 had transformed into this nightmare to be around. Just pure toxicity. "
-More me me me shit about how Alec wasn't there to hold his hand while he was having a psychotic break

If we take what was said before about work driving Alec mental, it looks like Alec snapped. He went home to what seems to be only his sister who seems to hate him. It seems the work he put in before securing the publisher and funding broke him, his social akwardness and iritability ruined some relationships at the time, etc. All Scott can think about is how inconvienent Alecs mental destruction is for him.

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"I redesigned the entire game in full about 7 times that year, trying each time to get Alec excited about working on it. He’d look at a plan and say “that looks too difficult” or “whatever” and I’d redesign it again. My amateur game design notebook scribbles from back then are very funny to look at now. "
-"Muh panic attacks got worse. I had always thought that panic attacks were just feeling overwhelmed, but it turns out they’re physical things" (oh poor baby)
-"I’d stopped taking responsibility for Alec as a person, and started taking responsibility for the game, for making our team function."
-"I had a hard time saying the word “abuse” then. Still do, a bit. I’ll talk about my hatred of capitalism or the faith I grew up with "

YUP EVERYONE, THIS IS WHERE HE BEGINS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO HE TECHNICALLY IS AN ABUSE VICTIM! Scott also tries to make it sound like he stepped up and finally filled the role of leader, when he was the partner from day 1 and should of been filling in when his co creator was dropping the ball. I also love how Scott continues to try and suck up more credit beyond animator and idea guy where he redesigned the entire game 7 times and Alec shot it down and was mean and didn't listen.
HEY exceptional individual, YOU'RE THE FUCKING ANIMATOR! While redesigning the game 7 times (I like to imagine he pitched it as changing it to an FPS, then a 2d fighting game, then a 3d fighting game, then an MMO RPG, then a Diablo style ARG, then a puzzle game, and finally a completely text based musicless html novel about depression) seems like work to Scott 'I work greuling 7 hour shifts' Benson, to a person who isn't a lazy exceptional fuck its 7 times of multiple hours wasted humoring someone who has no idea wtf they are talking about and is flinging shit at a wall hoping something sticks and they can justify being seen as important. Scott doesn't get he's wasting the time of someone worked too thin and takes it as Alec being a meanie who gave him "muh anxiety attacks"


-"Right around then something happened that was in hindsight miraculous. We’d later joke it was a Christmas miracle. Bethany had had it with Alec. One morning she created a private twitter account to vent to some friends about it. She did not hold back. Over a couple dozen tweets she laid out, emphatically, how much Alec was ruining our lives. How he was cruel to me, and how I had needed to step up and do most of the work, and how Alec was this, and that, etc. Afterward having vented, she took a walk. I woke up not long after to a Slack message from Alec. There was a screenshot of her tweets with his message: “OK.”

Bethany had forgotten to make her private account private. In her tweets she’d mentioned another game he’d been working on and I guess he had a google alert notification thing set up for it, so he was immediately alerted to this 3 follower account that was yelling about him. I panicked, called Bethany asking her what the fuck happened, jumped in the car with no shoes on, and floored it across the neighborhood to pick her up. I thought I might actually have a heart attack and die right there. My heart had been feeling weird lately. It fluttered and pumped weird. This plus the overwork led to health issues down the line. Bethany deleted the account. Bekah and Adam talked to Alec. Within a few days he… changed"

I don't know how Scott wrote this and thought it was a good idea. What he's admitting here is Beth and Scott never directly address problems to Alec. What they do instead is talk behind his back. The moment Scott has to step up because his co-worker has mentally broke, all Scott did was cry to Beth that he was working too hard (those grueling 7 hour days), then Alec sees the passive aggressive snark and hate toward him and his shitty behavior.
BUT HERE IS THE KICKER. Rather than yell at everyone, replace the team who is dead without him, and tell them to eat shit Alec accepts the criticism and takes action to correct it. If he was willing to make a change this sudden it means they NEVER even tried to address the issues to him before and he was accomidating.


-The game releases. Muh panic attacks, but things are fine
-"I’d been gently encouraging him to reach out and make amends with people he’d hurt during his bad years." (I wonder if this fucked him in the long run)
-"Over the next year I think I can say I really became friends with Alec. Or rather he’d become my cousin or something."
-"Shortly after at an industry event Bethany and I met up with some friends we rarely see for dinner. They asked me about the game launch, and how it felt now. Almost without warning, without me even knowing it happened, I broke down completely and told them the whole story of the past few years. "

Holy shit, you had a rich game dev FIND YOU and pull you out of poverty and teach you the basics on how to create a business from the ground up, he changes uncomfortable behavior because he accidently sees what you never had the balls to tell him, you have a successful game launch that changes you from 30 something who never had a stable living to indie game co creator success story, you call this man your friends, NAY YOUR COUSIN, and when a friend you hadn't seen in a while asks you how does it feel to finally come up in the world and be successful you take a moment to shit all over the guy who got you there cause he made you work a little too hard or might of not liked your ideas a little too much or had a medical issues that inconvienenced you? Get raped you wanna be #MeToo victim faggot, pop 30 Xanax with a bottle of champaign at a gaybar and have the greatest panic attack you can, maybe someone will rape your corpse and you will be the beautiful victim you always wished you were.

-"We’d decided not to work with Alec again back in 2015."
-"I warned friends who asked me back then not to work with him."
-"I confided in a small group of people what was happening to me, to Bethany."
-"The woman who cuts my hair was in roller derby and she also offered to kick his ass. " HOLY SHIT I CAN FEEL THE SOY FLOW FROM THAT
-"A lot of local friends were ready to throw down. Good friends offer to throw down."

So after he changes, the game is finished and he is like a cousin to you and changed your life forever you bad mouth him so bad PEOPLE WANT TO PHYSICALLY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM? WTF is wrong with you Scott?

- More poor me faggotry
-"I’ve spent the last week tracking down and talking to people close to Alec, people who knew him years ago, people who knew him now. It’s shocking how many of us had eerily similar experiences."

I wouldn't be surprised if Alec was a moody dick to work with who could be an angry asshole. So was Steve Jobs. No where do you describe sexual abuse. No where do you describe physical abuse. You describe a guy who expected you to know what you were doing and let you have at it, told you bluntly when your work sucked, and expected you to be competent enough to take over if he was sick. He was open about his mental issues. Rather than leave, you chose to stay because who he taught you was worth the bad you put up with which you could of not put up with if you had the balls to tell him directly like a fucking man.

-"Allegations about Alec’s behavior from right before we knew him came out last week. They were backed up by other people I trust, people who were around at the time. Suddenly a lot of what Alec said back then about his exes, his bile about the subject, back when I barely knew him, made sense. "

Wait, but I thought he was a different person now?

-"This is how he could entrap multiple women over the years and still think they were all out to get him. "
-"When I’ve talked to people this week a thing that’s been common was his threats to commit suicide if someone didn’t do what he wanted. If someone held him responsible for his actions. " (LOL ZOE IS ON FB DM'S DOING THAT TOO LOL)
-"After a lot of very hard thinking and checking up we announced that we had cut ties with Alec. Some folks reported this as us “firing” Alec, when there was nothing to fire him from. Infinite Fall isn’t a company."

Holy shit, this exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own fucking buisness arangement works. I also find it funny that the theme of Alec reaching out and offering opportunity is "entrapment" because when he starts trying to give advice how to better themselves and gets mad at their shitty behavior or in ability to meet goals he set for them he no longer wants to deal with them. Sure there is also the threatening with suicide all the time. Alec was a mentally ill asshole, but you knew this was the price of admission and you are in no way unable to just walk away at any time, you just didn't want to cause then you don't get your reward you were sticking around for.

-I want to give the guy credit for the ways he did change, at least as far as I could see. I want to say he was a brilliant developer and musician. After his 2015 absence he never quite considered Night In The Woods to be “his” game.

Wow, you are trying to steal credit from the dead. What a douche. Seems like Alec never considered it "his" game either, it's why he made you co-creator and expected you to step in his role when he was unable to physically do his job.

-"While I praise Alec’s work, consider this- people left the industry because of what he did. "

Judging by the amount of shovelware in the indie scene and the garbage people that seem to roam in these weird cliques and orbit people with actual tallent, not enough people have left. You aren't entitled to a place in the industry just cause you really really like video games

-"People developed PTSD. "

Dear diary, today the autistic coder who pulled me out of obscurity from my life of minimum wage living pulled me on a project, taught me how to get funding, taught me how to set project mile stones, gave me freedom to do what I want in my role, named me co creator, showed me how to secure further funding via confrences, but he shot down 7 of my ideas to scrap the game entirely for new redesigns and was mean to me and makes me work grueling 7 hour days. I HAVE PTSD NOW. GIVE ME XANAX PLEASE! SO TRAUMATIC.

-"Alec had prestige and money. He had what seemed to be a ticket to making your game dev dreams come true. "

And he shared that with you, even if you were unwilling to take notes or be greatful

-"He had a long pattern of picking someone he was really interested in, immediately suggesting they make a game together, making them dependent on him, and then later abandoning it and them, often in really shitty and harmful ways to add insult to injury."

Given the type of people he seemed to be picking who see 7 hour days as long hard work, I see why he'd ghost them after trying to help and realizing that they thought 3 hour work days and occasionally tweeting was what being a game dev was. Even if he ghosted people who put their hopes too high on him, whose fault is that?

-"Childish. Abusive. And when he didn’t get what he wanted, he dropped them and their game dev dreams by the wayside on his way to find someone else. "

Huh, it's almost like he expected people in a partnership with him to deliver results. kinda like it was a business

-"Because you depend on them. Because they hold control on some aspect of your life. Because you’ve just been beaten down into silence. "

No, you chose to depend on him. He is not responsible for your well being, much like you reminded everyone again and again that you were not responsible for his mental health (ahhhh, I see what you did there. Keep telling your self the bloods not on your hands)

-"I cared a lot about Alec, despite all this. But covering for and enabling the harm someone does to the people around them isn’t caring for them. Sometimes nothing turns out well. Sometime everything’s fucked. Sometimes every outcome is bad. "

Yeah, like a guy who mentored you and changed your life getting stabbed in the back for it and you shaming him to his suicide which you knew he would be prone to if he ever lost the means of being able to be an independent game creator and be forced to work under someone elses thumb for less than he was worth.

He tries to make it sound like it technically wasn't a firing. He technically is right, it was a partnership and he seems to not even have an understanding of how a company partnership even works. He probably has no clue how the fuck his paychecks for the game work. Let that sink in. The fact this fat lazy exceptional individual doesn't understand how his own co-ownership business works means Alec was even doing THAT for him too.
This lazy exceptional individual who cried over the horror of being forced into working 7 hours in a single day and tries to steal as much credit anywhere he can (probably cause its getting to him people are saying Alec did everything and outs him as the Hack he is)

And after admitting he was a changed man, cause he was an asshole with mental issues that he never addressed because none of you had the balls to tell him to address his issues and the ONE time you accidentally did tell him, he made the change wasn't even good enough for you. Because he held people hostage by offering opportunity, and abused them by telling them when they were fucking up, and its his fault people chose to put all their eggs in his basket without any binding contract.

I can see how him pulling you out of you low 32 years of non accomplishment & poverty, out of no where to teach you how to make a videogame from the ground up and hold you hostage with the promise of money and a finished product that changed your life, put so much faith and responsibility on you he feels you can handle 7 hour work days while he is hospitalized from working so much he has a psychotic break you would get PTSD and be a #MeToo survivor of the terror of Alec.

I for one look forward to the next game Scott is going to get funding for and create. I am sure it will be really good since he is so tallented and skilled and such a hard worker who gave it his all and pulled the slack when lazy abusive mean assholes like Alec were off having vacation at the local mental hospital.

What a self centered worthless prick. Scott is honestly lower than Zoe in my eyes. Zoe is just an attention seeker who doesn't think shit through and is kinda vindictive and shitty. Scott stabbed the man who mentored him in the back, bad mouthed him before his body was cold, and called the mentorship where he had his life changed "entrapment"

Yeah, my employer entraps #MeToo with a 401k, a paycheck and multiple ensurance policies. I'm basically a sexual assault survivor.

I hope this guy gets his 'aha!' moment down the road and has the same thing happen to him. Social media has truly ruined people and their relationships. People used to socialize online on MSN back in the day, but they actually talked and cared about their friends. None of this putting shit on display for the whole world and acting appropriately because the circle is watching. Fuck that, fuck the people who embraced and allowed this group mentality to thrive and made this social media future popular. Look what it's fucking done to people.
 
Talking about a seven hour work day like it’s some kind of hardship is not far off from CWC citing mowing his lawn as one of his great ordeals. This time a week ago, Night in the Woods was one of those great indie success stories. Now it’s going to be tainted forever by this because Scott thought it was more important to publicly denounce his friend and partner for ass pats instead of simply saying “we’re investigating and dealing with this issue internally.” But that would have involved reflection and professionalism.
 
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