TCPA Hearing 9/6/19 - Marchi ran from the Law, TI crumbles, conspiracy still on the table, and collective autism from all sides.

[mindlessobserver]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

 

[BubbleButt]

The Superchats on Nick's next show are gonna be unbearable.

Nick, at 2 AM, drunk and reading like an inner city 9th grader: "Hey Nick my dad just died of a massive hashtag heart attack and the vic case has me so depressed that I might kill myself. can I get a moment of silence for my sister who got brutally raped so I know what A REAL VICTIM is like. Please say this in Macho Man Randy Savage's voice. Hashtag I Stand With Vic."

"Wow. Uh. Sorry to hear that buddy. Mythos Serving says..."

It's gonna be like all of the worst AGDQ donation messages crumpled into a single retard ball.

 

[Long-time Lurker]

I was at the hearing. I am not KickVic or IStandWithVic, just curious how a case like this plays out. However, feel free not to trust some anonymous newfag (and apparently not the only one joining for this thread).

It'll take time for me to read the thread from the start. Before then, what are the remaining open questions people have as to what happened? I can provide facts and impressions, but would prefer to avoid anything too speculative.

 

[Random Internet Person]

So much Black Pilling.
as Yogi Berra once said "it ain't over till it's over"

But the clock is low.

 

[X Prime]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

I thought TI got dismissed simply because the second amended pleading was ignored.

 

[Genkoda]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

Chupp put a higher than tcpa requirement on TI by wanting specific numbers for damages.

 

[TexOffender]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

Yeah, the conspiracy was to commit TI, so...

 

[Vampy]

I now worry for Richard Meyer's case.

Different case, different court, different situation.
If anything use this experience (though we should all remember that they didn't hang Vic and take Ty's license away, appeals exist and they didn't throw everything out) to keep a clear head about the Meyer case. Anything can happen at the end of the day.

 

[verissimus]

Why? TCPA doesn't apply

I don't know. It's just a bad feeling.

 

[AnOminous]

This is a pretty entertaining recounting of things...
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Public figure is interesting. Shouldn't be fatal but if everything gets appealed, that's also up for it.

"Whether an individual is a public figure is a question of law for the court to resolve."  Rosenblatt v. Baer, 383 U.S. 75, 88, 86 S.Ct. 669, 15 L.Ed.2d 597 (1966). Since it's a question of law, the standard on appeal is de novo, i.e. the appeals court substitutes its own judgment for the trial court's.

 

[JKDVCS]

I hope at least after this, people can all be done with this milk-toast "art vs artists". It never works. Don't put your money in the pocket of evil people.

 

[Monkey Prick]

I now worry for Richard Meyer's case.

Meyer will be fine, Waid was dumb enough to not only commit TI, but to brag about it online after the fact and harrass the contract holder with messages trying to get them to say he didn't bully them into breaching contracts.

Meyer will probably lose on the defamation claims though, but in Meyer's case the meat and money was in the TI.

 

[Immaculate Ape]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

@HerExcell on twitter is breaking things down fairly well, perhaps they'll be able to give insight into the TI being thrown out

 

[theworstkindofeurofag]

It just pisses me off that this was supposedly a bad day for Vic because of Ty's incompetence. If this was all because of a judge misreading law or whatever it'd be more bearable.

 

[ItalianMobStripper]

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Is it time to get a tin foil hat and assume the judge was bribed?

 

[Tranny Dick Noballs]

What about a bunch of fuckheads on twitter, he needs to please them right?
Please repond, my parents are dying.

For now, it seems those "fuckheads" on twitter were in the right - but then who knows maybe Chupp will go Judge Dredd on the defamation claims and the case goes forward.

PS: Legal lads -> does this mean that Lemoine can finally claim he "won" a TCPA?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Why? TCPA doesn't apply

Because the courtroom is considered the last ways to diplomatically stop SocJus. And if that fails....

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

My first thought is that Chupp can't be arsed with the case (because of the stupid amounts of filings and bickering or whatever) and decided that he didn't want to do what the people of Tarrant County pay him to do.

Can "Borrok'd" be a verb after a certain other judge who pulled this lazy BS? Let's remember, your average Texas Republican functionary isn't much different at the core than your average New York Democrat functionary. It just seems ridiculous a judge can throw out the majority of this before even brought to trial. It's completely different to say "no, they didn't commit TI/defamation" after a trial then to say "I won't even let you try and prove that case".

Chupp put a higher than tcpa requirement on TI by wanting specific numbers for damages.

Wonder why "TI with prospective contracts" even exists then. Seems like a law you can safely ignore in Texas.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

I am still trying to wrap my head around how the defamation got through but not the TI.

We have a word to describe the phenomenon of seemingly incoherent decisions that require further information to process.

Chupped.

As in: "I got totally chupped when I read things on Twitter that made no sense."

 

[Sheryl Nome]

For now, it seems those "fuckheads" on twitter were in the right - but then who knows maybe Chupp will go Judge Dredd on the defamation claims and the case goes forward.

PS: Legal lads -> does this mean that Lemoine can finally claim he "won" a TCPA?

He can't really claim he won if the case wasn't dismissed, no.