Disaster Richard Stallman resigns from the Free Software Foundation and his position at the MIT

RMS has resigned from some honorary position at MIT.

To the MIT community,
I am resigning effective immediately from my position in CSAIL at MIT. I am doing this due to pressure on MIT and me over a series of misunderstandings and mischaracterizations.
Richard Stallman
Vice Article
 
Poweleveling a tiny bit here..but you all mention IT as being the newest "cucked" profession, but so far, despite never joining any societies for reasons such as the OP, I see that engineering is the last uncucked "white collar" profession and I don't see it being cucked in the near future.
It's pretty cucked in Europe.


(http://archive.is/s9J1k)
 
All this shit starts with one post, as found on /g/
Remove Richard Stallman
And everyone else horrible in tech.
Selam G.
Selam G.


Sep 12 · 9 min read
Edited on 09/12 at 11:44PM EST:
I’d like to add a
Content Note: this piece contains mentions of child abuse, rape, and other upsetting topics. An appendix of additional information has also been added at the bottom.
Edited on 09/13 at 3:59PM EST:
I have now leaked
the full thread, with identifying information removed, to Vice.
Edited on 09/16/2019 at 8:43AM EST:
Added a separate post,
Remove Richard Stallman: Appendix A
I’m writing this because I’m too angry to work.
I’m writing this because at 11AM on Wednesday, September 11th 2019, my friend sent me an email that was sent to an MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (CSAIL) mailing list.
This email came from Richard Stallman, a prominent computer scientist.
In it, he’s responding to a female student’s email about this Facebook event, which calls for a protest by MIT students and affiliates regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s donation.
The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin
Minsky:
“deceased AI ‘pioneer’ Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting
one of Epstein’s victims [2])”
The injustice is in the word “assaulting”. The term “sexual assault”
is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation:
taking claims that someone did X and leading people to think of it as
Y, which is much worse than X.
The accusation quoted is a clear example of inflation. The reference
reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem.
(See https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/2...sex-trafficking-island-court-records-unsealed.)
Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it).
The word “assaulting” presumes that he applied force or violence, in
some unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing.
Only that they had sex.
We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that
she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was
being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her
to conceal that from most of his associates.
I’ve concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it
is absolutely wrong to use the term “sexual assault” in an accusation.
Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a
specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the
criticism.
There are so many things wrong with what Richard Stallman said I hardly know where to begin. First, he didn’t even give the typical, whiney, ‘he’s accused but not convicted’ defense. No, Stallman went much further than that. Instead, Stallman said “Let’s assume that Marvin Minsky had sex with an underage girl who was a victim of child sex trafficking”…
The reference reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem…Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it).
…and then he says that an enslaved child could, somehow, be “entirely willing”. Let’s also note that he called a group of child sex trafficking victims a ‘harem’, a terrible word choice.
We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that
she presented herself to him as entirely willing.
This is someone who is respected far and wide by the technology community.
This is someone who is a Visiting Scientist at MIT.
MIT claims it never wanted to elevate Epstein’s reputation by allowing him to donate. But, here they are, not only elevating but funding and endorsing a person like Richard Stallman as a visiting scientist.
What’s more, somehow Richard Stallman decided it was appropriate to email his opinion to an almost department-wide mailing list (“csail-related”) which had undergraduate students on it. In an email further down the thread, he also said,
“I think it is morally absurd to define “rape” in a way that depends on minor details such as which country it was in or whether the victim was 18 years old or 17.”
in response to a student who said “Giuffre [the victim who testified] was 17 at the time, this makes it __rape__ [sic] in the virgin islands” .
Again, this mailing list has undergraduate students on it. It is likely some of them are “18 years old or 17”.
I was shocked. I continued talking to my friend, a female graduate student in CSAIL, about everything, trying to get the full email thread (I wasn’t on the mailing list). I even started emailing reporters — local and national, news sites, newspapers, radio stations. I couldn’t stop thinking about it. During my 45-minute drive home, when I normally listen to podcasts or music, I just sat in complete silence.
The only reporter who responded quickly was one from WBUR, and they didn’t seem to be in a rush to publish this information. So, I told my friends that I would just write a story myself. I’d planned to do it after work today; instead, because I can’t possibly focus, I’m working on it now.
MIT does not deserve its women.
The world does not deserve them either. I thought back to every person who has ever asked me how to “fix” the gender problems in STEM, how to “get more girls” to join STEM programs. I thought about every time that someone has suggested “men are better at spacial thinking” and that “testosterone is linked to better performance in math”.
In my mind I look at all these people, a crowd that is gathered. And in my mind, I stand up and I scream at them. I would put my hands around their shoulders and shake sense into all of them, individually, if I had enough time and enough hands
The problems are so obvious.
There is nothing wrong with women. There is nothing wrong with girls in STEM. There are many women and many girls who, in spite of everything, love STEM-related disciplines. Some of them even go through 4-year bachelors degrees at MIT, maybe even 7 years of a PhD, and then begin questioning whether they should continue in these fields, because they are filled to the brim with so, so many shitty men.
Jeffrey Epstein. Marvin Minsky.
Richard Stallman.
Travis Kalanick. James Damore. The laundry list of men in tech and academia who have continued this pattern of harassment, misogyny, and discrimination.
Richard Stallman was known to be problematic long before this. This is the door to his office:
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A relatively less serious or even funny gaffe, but I’m told he’s sent incendiary emails to the CSAIL list before. One friend joked that they have an email filter explicitly for Stallman’s emails, to always remove them from their inbox.
Why do we tolerate this?
Why do we allow the jokes and the comments and everything small to just ‘slide’?
Why do we wait until it becomes bad and public and unbearable and people like me have to write posts like this?
Why do we ponder the low enrollment of female and minority graduate students at MIT with one hand and endorse shitty men in science with the other? Not only endorse them — we invite them to our campus where they will brush shoulders with those same female and minority students.
Why do we excuse people simply because they are “geniuses”?
As Michelle Obama says, “they are not that smart”. Even in STEM fields, I have to agree.
There is nothing I have seen a man in tech do that a woman could not. What’s more, the woman would probably be less egotistical and more team-oriented about it.
There is no single person that is so deserving of praise their comments deprecating others should be allowed to slide. Particularly when those comments are excuses about rape, assault, and child sex trafficking.
Child.
Sex.
Trafficking.

This reminds me of Sandy Hook. We knew, then, that if America would do nothing in response to the deaths of children, we would do nothing, ever.
I know, now, that if prominent technology institutions won’t start firing their problematic men left right and center, we will do nothing. Ever.
I don’t care anymore that the Epstein issue is airing the dirty laundry within our community, even though Harvard has certainly taken far more Epstein funding and stayed far more silent about the matter. I understand, now, that powerful institutions will not remove their problematic members until we make it messy and public and awful. I am ready, now, to join others in calling for burning everything to the ground.
I have a great love for my home institution. It’s where I wanted to go to college since I was 7 years old. When asked, I still say that my happiest memory so far in life, or the accomplishment I’m most proud of, is that day on 12/14/13 at 12:14 PM when I received my letter of acceptance. I write this with the fervent wish that it changes for the better, along with all other institutions in tech and in STEM, along with all other institutions in the country and the world.
This behavior cannot go unchecked, simply because someone is seen as a “genius”. Simply because they are powerful, influential, or have friends in high places.
Those are the same forces that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to rape and traffick children for so long.
At least Richard Stallman is not accused of raping anyone. But is that our highest standard? The standard that this prestigious institution holds itself to? If this is what MIT wants to defend; if this is what MIT wants to stand for, then, yes, burn it to the ground.
Or remove them. Remove men like Richard Stallman and, I’m sure, the many others that are now hiding. #MeToo showed us that they are not safe, not as isolated as we thought in their towers of power and prestige.
Remove everyone, if we must, and let something much better be built from the ashes.
Addendum:
I honestly did not think about it that hard when I wrote this post, which is probably why I wrote it and shared it publicly. Had I thought a little harder, maybe I would have thought about my reputation, the fact that I was insulting someone well respected who I had never met, and doing that on so insignificant a whim as wanting to stand up for a close friend of mine in the MIT CSAIL department. Maybe I would have thought about what might happen to me if this were to go viral, that maybe my own already insignificant reputation would go down the toilet and the reputation of this person further elevated.
But I didn’t think about any of those things, and here I am. There have been a few “viral moments” in my life but I think this is the most attention I have ever single-handedly generated on the internet.
I would like to add some information that may be helpful for context. First, screenshots of some similar “incendiary comments” I alluded to, provided by another student:
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Additionally, a catalogue of other problematic things Stallman has said in the past:
Richard Stallman

Richard Stallman (also known as RMS) is the founder of the Free Software Movement, author of EMACS, etc. Among other…
geekfeminism.wikia.org

A direct quote which stands out: “ I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children.”
This was not, actually, all that much about Richard Stallman. Stallman was just the last straw. This was really about all the times I have heard about a classmate’s advisor crushing her dreams, about Seth Lloyd mocking female students, the number of women alumni that were too jaded to feel surprised by this revelation, the story I read from a 1987 alumn about the trauma she experienced at the MIT and the world of that era. This was really about everything that has come out before and after the Epstein revelations, before and after Richard Stallman’s emails.
Perhaps the only criticism I will accept is that I, personally, have been lucky enough to avoid a lot of gender-related discrimination in comparison to my peers. I, personally, was not someone with a terrible advisor or a sexist professor or lecturer and while I am often the only woman in a room or the only woman in the section of my office building, I am surrounded by mostly nice, well-meaning men who have taught me a lot about engineering. I acknowledge that this is a privilege I have. The privilege to face only microaggressions.
Did I even really know who Richard Stallman was before those emails? To be honest, not really — I’m a mechanical engineer who didn’t pay enough attention, apparently. I did not possess the awe and reverence many people commenting and retweeting seemed to. Maybe if I had known I would have been more “careful”. Maybe if I had known I, too, would have been able to let such comments and behavior slide because of “genius”.
Yet here we are. I don’t regret a thing. ✌🏽
Continue to “Remove Richard Stallman: Appendix A



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It's pretty cucked in Europe.


(http://archive.li/s9J1k)
I thought they had enough problem so filling engineering jobs anyways regardless of sex.

There was an engineering society for females where I went, and sure, it might be a good thing if there were more women who could complete the courses required to be in the field, but there are a serious lack of both men and women who can do it, and I'll be damned if they ever, EVER, dumb down the requirements for becoming an engineer.

It's not about being a code monkey who can write scripts to stop haxxors from revealing globomono secrets, it's about bettering human lives..

..imo

>inb4 autism
 
Since this thread is going full on sekrit club "NO GIRLZ ALLOWED" these two posts by esr seem appropriate. Read them in order.
Holding up the sky

Posted on 2012-03-18 by esr


During the last few years I’ve noticed a change in the meaning of my life – well, my life as a hacker, anyway. I had an exchange on a mailing list last night that made me think it’s not just me, that the same change has been sneaking up on a lot of us.
It’s part of the hacker ethos to (as Alan Kay put it) predict the future by inventing it – to playfully seek solutions to problems people outside our culture are not yet even thinking about. We still do that, and I think we always will.
But increasingly, as the world of pervasive networks and ubiquitous computing hackers imagined decades ago has become reality, we’re not just the innovators who thought of it first. Now we’re responsible; having created the future, we have to maintain it. And, as the sinews of civilization become ever more dependent on the Internet and software-intensive communications devices, that responsibility gets more serious every year.
This makes for a subtle change in our duties and our relationship to our work – a gradual shift from merry prankster to infrastructure gnome.

What started me thinking about this seriously is the Bufferbloat project. Those of us working on it believe we’ve identified a cluster of serious problems deep in the Internet’s implementation, and we’re working hard on diagnostic tools and mitigation methods.
Sometimes, as we work on this, it’s difficult to wrap our minds around the implications of the worst-case scenarios. We’ve identified problems that plausibly could trigger a congestion collapse of the entire Internet. The one previous time the Internet suffered a congestion collapse, in the late 1980s, almost nobody but a handful of geeks noticed. Today, a service interruption of the same relative magnitude would be a civilization-challenging disaster.
Nobody is panicking about this. We’ve got a remediation job to do, and we’re about as competent to do it as any team could be, and the odds that the Internet will random-walk into an unrecoverable crash before we can fix the vulnerabilities seem acceptably low. But damn. This isn’t an aspect of the future we were expecting, though in retrospect we probably should have. I look at us and wonder: when did we join the people who have to hold up the sky?
While an Internet congestion collapse is still a high-end extreme, it is no longer a particularly rare thing even for smaller projects to be life-critical. My own GPSD is a good example. Maybe it was all about mapping WiFi hotspots and geocaching and research applications a decade ago, but nowadays the known deployments include the IFF systems of armored fighting vehicles in wartime. Bugs in my stuff could kill people.
I don’t lose sleep over this, because I know I’m very good at what I do. If it weren’t me obsessing about our regression-test suite and our portage tests and annotating our code for static checking it would probably be someone less experienced and skilled than I am, and the odds of consequent avoidable deaths would go up. But, again, damn. This is not exactly what I was expecting thirty years ago, when I signed on to the whole hacker-ethos thing to push on the frontiers of possibility.
And it’s not just the bufferbloat guys, and it’s not just me. Think of Linux on embedded systems, diffusing its way into medical equipment. And the flight avionics of airliners. And thousands of other invisible deployments where crashes and errors can kill. Hackers didn’t go looking for the job of holding up the sky, but as ephemeralization and distributed machine intelligence become more and more critical to the way human civilization functions, and open source takes over ever-larger pieces of that infrastructure, that job is finding and settling on us.
There may be transitions like this associated with every new technology. But it’s happening faster now. Newcomen and Watt didn’t live to see the day when the world’s factories and commerce became dependent on steam engines, but I’ve lived to see my code become ubiquitous on almost everything that lights up pixels on a digital display. And I’m far from the only hacker who can say similar things.
Ubiquity, like great power, requires of us great responsibility. It changes our duties, and it changes the kind of people we have to be to meet those duties. It is no longer enough for hackers to think like explorers and artists and revolutionaries; now we have to be civil engineers as well, and identify with the people who keep the sewers unclogged and the electrical grid humming and the roads mended. Creativity was never enough by itself, it always had to be backed up with craftsmanship and care – but now, our standards of craftsmanship and care must rise to new levels because the consequences of failure are so much more grave.
But that’s OK. We’ve always had an ethos of service, an other-directed component to our idealism. I believe hackers, as a culture, can handle these new demands; the adjustment required is not a break with our traditions but a broadening and deepening of them.
And then there’s this. Back when what we did on computers was more exclusively playful exploration and those computers were less ubiquitous in everyday life, it was easy to wonder sometimes if our hacking – as much fun and as challenging as it was – would ever be actually mean anything outside of research labs and universities and corporate server rooms.
Now there is no longer doubt; what we do matters. Today hackers are, in fact, among the unacknowledged maintainers of civilization. There is honor in that.

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Why Hackers Must Eject the SJWs

Posted on 2015-11-13 by esr


The hacker culture, and STEM in general, are under ideological attack. Recently I blogged a safety warning that according to a source I consider reliable, a “women in tech” pressure group has made multiple efforts to set Linus Torvalds up for a sexual assault accusation. I interpreted this as an attempt to beat the hacker culture into political pliability, and advised anyone in a leadership position to beware of similar attempts.
Now comes Roberto Rosario of the Django Software Foundation. Django is a web development framework that is a flourishing and well-respected part of the ecology around the of the Python language. On October 29th 2015 he reported that someone posting as ‘djangoconcardiff’ opened an issue against pull request #176 on ‘awesome-django’, addressing it to Rosario. This was the first paragraph.
Hi
great project!! I have one observation and a suggestion. I noticed that you have rejected some pull requests to add some good django libraries and that the people submitting thsoe pull requests are POCs (People of Colour). As a suggestion I recommend adopting the Contributor Code of Conduct (http://contributor-covenant.org) to ensure everyone’s contributions are accepted regarless [sic] of their sex, sexual orientation, skin color, religion, height, place of origin, etc. etc. etc. As a white straight male and lead of this trending repository, your adoption of this Code of Conduct will send a loud and clear message that inclusion is a primary objective of the Django community and of the software development community in general. D.
Conversation on that issue is preserved in the Twitter link above, but the issue itself in GitHub has apparently been deleted in its totality. Normally, only GitHub staff can do this. A copy is preserved here.
It is unknown who was speaking as ‘djangoconcardiff’, and that login has now been deleted, like the GitHub issue. (DjangoCon Europe 2015 was this past May/June in Cardiff.)
The slippery, Newspeak-like quality of djangoconcardiff’s “suggestion” makes it hard to pin down from the text itself whether he/she is merely stumping for inclusiveness or insinuating that rejection of pull requests by “persons of color” is itself evidence of racism and thoughtcrime.
But, if you think you’re reading that ‘djangoconcardiff’ considers acceptance of pull requests putatively from “persons of color” to be politically mandatory, a look at the Contributor Covenant he/she advocates will do nothing to dissuade you. Paragraph 2 denounces the “pervasive cult of meritocracy”. [Update: The explicit language has since been removed. The intention rather obviously remains]
It is clear that djangoconcardiff and the author of the Covenant (self-described transgender feminist Coraline Ada Ehmke) want to replace the “cult of meritocracy” with something else. And equally clear that what they want to replace it with is racial and sexual identity politics.
Rosario tagged his Twitter report “Social Justice in action!” He knows who these people are: SJWs, “Social Justice Warriors”. And, unless you have been living under a rock, so do you. These are the people – the political and doctrinal tendency, united if in no other way by an elaborate shared jargon and a seething hatred of djangoconcardiff’s “white straight male”, who recently hounded Nobel laureate Tim Hunt out of his job with a fraudulent accusation of sexist remarks.
I’m not going to analyze SJW ideology here except to point out, again, why the hacker culture must consider anyone who holds it an enemy. This is because we must be a cult of meritocracy. We must constantly demand merit – performance, intelligence, dedication, and technical excellence – of ourselves and each other.
Now that the Internet – the hacker culture’s creation! – is everywhere, and civilization is increasingly software-dependent, we have a duty, the duty I wrote about in Holding Up The Sky. The invisible gears have to turn. The shared software infrastructure of civilization has to work, or economies will seize up and people will die. And for large sections of that infrastructure, it’s on us – us! – to keep it working. Because nobody else is going to step up.
We dare not give less than our best. If we fall away from meritocracy – if we allow the SJWs to remake us as they wish, into a hell-pit of competitive grievance-mongering and political favoritism for the designated victim group of the week – we will betray not only what is best in our own traditions but the entire civilization that we serve.
This isn’t about women in tech, or minorities in tech, or gays in tech. The hacker culture’s norm about inclusion is clear: anybody who can pull the freight is welcome, and twitching about things like skin color or shape of genitalia or what thing you like to stick into what thing is beyond wrong into silly. This is about whether we will allow “diversity” issues to be used as wedges to fracture our community, degrade the quality of our work, and draw us away from our duty.
When hackers fail our own standards of meritocracy, as we sometimes do, it’s up to us to fix it from within our own tradition: judge by the work alone, you are what you do, shut up and show us the code. A movement whose favored tools include the rage mob, the dox, and faked incidents of bigotry is not morally competent to judge us or instruct us.
I have been participating in and running open-source projects for a quarter-century. In all that time I never had to know or care whether my fellow contributors were white, black, male, female, straight, gay, or from the planet Mars, only whether their code was good. The SJWs want to make me care; they want to make all of us obsess about this, to the point of having quotas and struggle sessions and what amounts to political officers threatening us if we are insufficiently “diverse”.
Think I’m exaggerating? Read the whole djangoconcardiff thread. What’s there is totalitarianism in miniature: ideology is everything, merit counts for nothing against the suppression of thoughtcrime, and politics is conducted by naked intimidation against any who refuse to conform. Near the end of the conversation djangoconcardiff threatens to denounce Rosario to the board of the Django Software Foundation in the confused, illiterate, vicious idiom of an orc or a stormtrooper.
It has been suggested that djangoconcardiff might be a troll emulating an SJW, and we should thus take him less seriously. The problem with this idea is that no SJW disclaimed him – more generally, that “Social Justice” has reached a sort of Poe’s Law singularity at which the behavior of trolls and true believers becomes indistinguishable even to each other, and has the same emergent effects.
In the future, the hacker whose community standing the SJWs threaten could be you. The SJWs talk ‘diversity’ but like all totalitarians they measure success only by total ideological surrender – repeating their duckspeak, denouncing others for insufficent political correctness, loving Big Brother. Not being a straight white male won’t save you either – Roberto Rosario is an Afro-Hispanic Puerto Rican.
We must cast these would-be totalitarians out – refuse to admit them on any level except by evaluating on pure technical merit whatever code patches they submit. We must refuse to let them judge us, and learn to recognize their thought-stopping jargon and kafkatraps as a clue that there is no point in arguing with them and the only sane course is to disengage. We can’t fix what’s broken about the SJWs; we can, and must, refuse to let them break us.
(Roberto Rosario, Meredith L. Patterson, and Rick Moen assisted in the composition of this post. However, any errors are the sole responsibility of the author.)

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You know... it's moments like this that make Linus Torvalds' disavowal of the FSF that much more haunting when you take a look at the absolute state of IT/comp sci in the current year. I mean, I respect Stallman for all his accomplishments in actually promoting free software as a viable alternative to proprietary NDAware but for the love of GOD man... he really is a lolcow in his own regard.

Who the FUCK talks about Epstein on a public forum and actually says stuff like 'what if they consented tho?'
 
Poweleveling a tiny bit here..but you all mention IT as being the newest "cucked" profession, but so far, despite never joining any societies for reasons such as the OP, I see that engineering is the last uncucked "white collar" profession and I don't see it being cucked in the near future.

I look forward to society collapsing because we turn over highway off ramps and shit like that to troon degenerates and soon bridges and highway overpasses and cloverleafs are collapsing and exploding in mushroom clouds.
 
Poweleveling a tiny bit here..but you all mention IT as being the newest "cucked" profession, but so far, despite never joining any societies for reasons such as the OP, I see that engineering is the last uncucked "white collar" profession and I don't see it being cucked in the near future.

Is there a consensus against this? I'm no genius (for realz), but I saw even the smartest of people (regardless of sex) quit that shit and there's no watch around putting in the time unless you cheat, simply because there isn't no way to argue mathematical outcomes in engineering.
We all thought this exact same thing about programming and software dev too, though.

There was an engineering society for females where I went, and sure, it might be a good thing if there were more women who could complete the courses required to be in the field, but there are a serious lack of both men and women who can do it, and I'll be damned if they ever, EVER, dumb down the requirements for becoming an engineer.
It's already happening in some places. There was the article last month about some university over in Australia that was fudging application scores to do exactly this (https://archive.li/4r9c5).

Of course I hope you're right, but I'm not as optimistic about these things as I used to be.
 
Did I even really know who Richard Stallman was before those emails? To be honest, not really — I’m a mechanical engineer who didn’t pay enough attention, apparently. I did not possess the awe and reverence many people commenting and retweeting seemed to. Maybe if I had known I would have been more “careful”. Maybe if I had known I, too, would have been able to let such comments and behavior slide because of “genius”.
Yet here we are. I don’t regret a thing.
This is the best part of the medium post by far. In it this strong womyn in tech admits she's not even in the FOSS movement, let alone software engineering. She's looking for the clout of taking down a big bad abuser, like whatever that girl's name was who took down Weinstein and started #MeToo or something.

Who the FUCK talks about Epstein on a public forum and actually says stuff like 'what if they consented tho?'
The same kind of nerd who would make livestreams about running over CIA niggers and owning MIT niggers. People for years would give oldschool tech nerds a lot of leeway to be autists because they also kept everything working. Back in the 90s tech companies were actually going out to furry cons trying to hire people because they had a reputation of having "talented autists" attend. Now with HR departments and all you'd be fucking retarded to do this.

How does this affect a normal werdio like me who likes computers and installs shit like tamper moneky to fuck with shit?
Look what happened to Mozilla. Firefox went from being the main competitor to Microsoft and the browser everyone used IE to download to being ignored in favor of Google Chrome. Eich being ousted from Mozilla was seen as a turning point in Firefoxes market share, sending it further downward as more and more people just used Chrome instead. Nowadays if you launch Firefox on some public computer it'll start updating because nobody uses it.

Time to start exclusively using Chad-tier non-free (as in freedom) software.
Back in the day (from the 80s to 2000s at least) before companies found out that they could use FOSS as a way of having people do the development for free or as a free source of premade code, proprietary software was pretty rock solid compared to today. Now Windows 10 is always fucking updating and has bugs that do things like wipe your files, and Mac OS X is loaded with bugs like the one where you could log into the root account without a password.

There's a reason commercial UNIX lasted as long as it did with Windows and Linux eating it's market share and bad business decisions.

At least you can fork older versions of software before they became too pozzed, Oracle's open source projects got forked when they bought out Sun and threatened to kill them or killed them. OpenOffice got forked into LibreOffice, MySql got forked into MariaDB, OpenSolaris got forked into illumos, and now non-Oracle Java JDK builds such as AdoptOpenJDK have become used more after Oracle's infamous license changes for Java. If there's enough devs willing to do this like with Devuan it could very well start happening more. There's bound to be schisms in the FOSS movement now between the corporate dangerhairs and the last remaining oldschool hacker types pissed off at the corporate control aspect.
 
I've been expecting this for some time. Stallman is just too damn autistic to survive in globohomoized tech and already had put his foot in his mouth (kinda literally) very often.

Personally, my opinion on Stallman has soured a lot over the years so I'm finding it a bit difficult to care. I'm pretty firmly of the belief that he has actually been a counterproductive leader/figure for open source code for a long time now and many of his decisions and autistic beliefs have even been holding open source code back. The flaws with how GPL conflicts with actually funding a project (and thus being able to do a properly good job with it as a full-time endeavour) alone are a massive issue stemming from his own autistic ideological concept of what "free" means that he can't see past. Just my thoughts though and don't pretend to be someone with a solution to license problems..

I like Emacs tho

Of the old guard, Theo is the last man standing. He has no tolerance for social justice shit and he gives zero fucks about feels.

Theo can be quite wonderful sometimes..
 
I look forward to society collapsing because we turn over highway off ramps and shit like that to troon degenerates and soon bridges and highway overpasses and cloverleafs are collapsing and exploding in mushroom clouds.

It'll be the patriarchy's fault, and static load is a social construct.
 
You know... it's moments like this that make Linus Torvalds' disavowal of the FSF that much more haunting when you take a look at the absolute state of IT/comp sci in the current year. I mean, I respect Stallman for all his accomplishments in actually promoting free software as a viable alternative to proprietary NDAware but for the love of GOD man... he really is a lolcow in his own regard.

Who the FUCK talks about Epstein on a public forum and actually says stuff like 'what if they consented tho?'
Autistic weirdos. Doesn't mean he is wrong though, just that he doesn't understand social interaction and the concept of a right time and place. Most of what he said is reasonable to discuss once people are no longer overly outraged about any discussion on the topic beyond signalling to everyone else that you think pedoz r bad, as if its an impressive or important take that contributes anything.
 
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I look forward to society collapsing because we turn over highway off ramps and shit like that to troon degenerates and soon bridges and highway overpasses and cloverleafs are collapsing and exploding in mushroom clouds.
We'll have the same with programming when airplane component or healthcare equipment drivers don't work right due to incompetent female developers. Bad news though, the banking industry won't suffer as all their systems are COBOL and it's just lazy boomers and a handful of young autists who work on it.
 
I've been expecting this for some time. Stallman is just too damn autistic to survive in globohomoized tech and already had put his foot in his mouth (kinda literally) very often.

That's a very bad thing because we need those autists doing what they do.
 
people in this thread are talking about how unfair all this shit is to men and ya I get that... but this sucks for women too

just think of how many women get propelled to a position they can't possibly hope to meet the expectations of and how stressful that must be, and in the long run it's just going to make men never ever ever depend on a woman for anything because they're almost guaranteed to be underqualified

and that's got to make everyone desperate to find scapegoats about why the system isn't working other than the obvious truth that the woke bullshit is doing more harm than good....
 
I went to Slashdot to anticipate a bunch of lefty nerds kicking Stallman when he's down but instead I see them pretty damn mad about the whole fiasco. Also really agree with this comment;
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We've just seen the SJWs play a game of "Kick The Autistic."
ugh. that is so weev. he sees himself in Stallman.

-1 internet for not recognizing that username btw
 
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