Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

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Sorry again for double-posting, but I've just been thinking about non-important, miscellaneous questions about this series that have been bothering me for a while. I apologize in advance if any of them have already been answered.

  • What happened to the Underground?
  • Did Carla know that Eren stabbed two grown men to death at the age of eight, and if so, what did she think about that?
  • Did orphanages exist before Historia founded one?
  • What happened to Jean's mom?
  • What happened to Connie's mom who got turned into a titan, but could still talk?
  • Why is Zackley still allowed to torture people, and where the fuck is he?
  • Do pianos exist in this world? I know guitars do.
  • How medically advanced are the Paradisers?
  • What happened to the woman who was helping Kenny, and did we ever find out her name?
  • Lastly, is this supposed to be a flashlight, or electric lantern? Either way, the light emanating from it looks way too bright, and artificial to be something the Paradisers (or at least the Survey Corps) to have. I know in the Inner Walls they have roughly Victorian age technology, but the object seen in the picture looks too advanced imo.
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Sorry again for double-posting, but I've just been thinking about non-important, miscellaneous questions about this series that have been bothering me for a while. I apologize in advance if any of them have already been answered.

  • What happened to the Underground?
  • Did Carla know that Eren stabbed two grown men to death at the age of eight, and if so, what did she think about that?
  • Did orphanages exist before Historia founded one?
  • What happened to Jean's mom?
  • What happened to Connie's mom who got turned into a titan, but could still talk?
  • Why is Zackley still allowed to torture people, and where the fuck is he?
  • Do pianos exist in this world? I know guitars do.
  • How medically advanced are the Paradisers?
  • What happened to the woman who was helping Kenny, and did we ever find out her name?
  • Lastly, is this supposed to be a flashlight, or electric lantern? Either way, the light emanating from it looks way too bright, and artificial to be something the Paradisers (or at least the Survey Corps) to have. I know in the Inner Walls they have roughly Victorian age technology, but the object seen in the picture looks too advanced imo.
I’m starting to think you didn’t read (aside from recent chapters) or pay attention to the manga cause literally two of your questions have been answered. Zackley died a few chapters ago and I think the government is still keeping watch over Connie’s mom due to her speaking and being the mother of one of their soldiers IIRC.
 
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I’m starting to think you didn’t read (aside from recent chapters) or pay attention to the manga cause literally two of your questions have been answered. Zackley died a few chapters ago and I think the government is still keeping watch over Connie’s mom due to her speaking and being the mother of one of their soldiers IIRC.
Here's the thing: I do, but with all the new, confusing, convoluted, batshit insane things that just keep getting piled on in this series, I end up forgetting shit.

I'm sorry.
 
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Sorry again for double-posting, but I've just been thinking about non-important, miscellaneous questions about this series that have been bothering me for a while. I apologize in advance if any of them have already been answered.

  • What happened to the Underground?
  • Did Carla know that Eren stabbed two grown men to death at the age of eight, and if so, what did she think about that?
  • Did orphanages exist before Historia founded one?
  • What happened to Jean's mom?
  • What happened to Connie's mom who got turned into a titan, but could still talk?
  • Why is Zackley still allowed to torture people, and where the fuck is he?
  • Do pianos exist in this world? I know guitars do.
  • How medically advanced are the Paradisers?
  • What happened to the woman who was helping Kenny, and did we ever find out her name?
  • Lastly, is this supposed to be a flashlight, or electric lantern? Either way, the light emanating from it looks way too bright, and artificial to be something the Paradisers (or at least the Survey Corps) to have. I know in the Inner Walls they have roughly Victorian age technology, but the object seen in the picture looks too advanced imo.
Levi's kick looks like Chris drew it.
 
With the Godzilla movie coming out this year, I kind of went on a huge giant monster binge ranging from movies from the 50s all the way to Animes that have giant monsters in it.

Attack on Titan was one of the shows I checked out and I really enjoyed the first season. Does it stay good and should I continue watching it?
 
With the Godzilla movie coming out this year, I kind of went on a huge giant monster binge ranging from movies from the 50s all the way to Animes that have giant monsters in it.

Attack on Titan was one of the shows I checked out and I really enjoyed the first season. Does it stay good and should I continue watching it?
No. No, it does not stay good. It completely loses its mind, and becomes incredibly stupid.

Personally, I'd recommend stopping after season one so you don't become too invested in the plot, but if for some reason you decide to keep going, then definitely stop after season three. Don't go any farther or else it'll be completely ruined for you.

Just pretend it ended when they got to the ocean.
 
With the Godzilla movie coming out this year, I kind of went on a huge giant monster binge ranging from movies from the 50s all the way to Animes that have giant monsters in it.

Attack on Titan was one of the shows I checked out and I really enjoyed the first season. Does it stay good and should I continue watching it?
It depends on your taste, personally it's worth checking out the later seasons especially Season 2 and Season 3 Part 2. However, Season 3 Part 1 is very different in tone compared to the series and the stuff after Season 3 Part 2 can be hit or miss depend.
 
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With the Godzilla movie coming out this year, I kind of went on a huge giant monster binge ranging from movies from the 50s all the way to Animes that have giant monsters in it.

Attack on Titan was one of the shows I checked out and I really enjoyed the first season. Does it stay good and should I continue watching it?

As @Bunny Tracks said, it does not.

Lets put it this way: This super, mega successful anime that got normies into it and is probably the only anime 99% of normies watch is ending after the fourth season with the manga having no real clear end in sight. Its not only ending after its fourth season, the studio that produced it and drew it, Wiz, handed it off to another studio. This is practically unheard of, especially with a blockbuster IP. Also don't give me that bullshit 'cancellation is common in anime'.

One Piece has ten trillion episodes and 400 movies. Ghost in the Shell is constantly being remade and retooled as series and as movies. Black Lagoon is rumored to be coming back after a forever hiatus. David Studios has held onto Jojo for dear fucking life for 12 years and will still adapt its least popular part. You do not give up a profitable IP in modern anime or cancel it. You just don't. ESPECIALLY with more material to adapt, and there is simply no way Season 4 can successfully adapt everything that happens after 3. It is literally not possible.

So why is a company not continuing an immensely profitable IP, handing it off to what amounts to a C team and then cancelling it when there is probably enough for another 3 or 4 seasons? I'll give you a hint: Its because everything that is coming is shit, the company can smell it a mile away and is wiping its hands clean of it. That is the clearest reason for this. Well, that and its pretty well known after the events of the Season 3 finale, readership in the manga dropped 50 fucking percent.

It depends on your taste, personally it's worth checking out the later seasons especially Season 2 and Season 3 Part 2. However, Season 3 Part 1 is very different in tone compared to the series and the stuff after Season 3 Part 2 can be hit or miss depend.

I just honestly don't think its worth it. I mean, once you learn the 'mysteries' its like....wasting your time. I mean...maybe? I guess if you want to see what amounts to giant mechs punching each other, but BIG SPOILS

Don't expect much man-eating Titan tension pretty much ever again after the third season. Like they make one machine and murder all the titans in the place. So that tension is off the table.

Basically, after the end of the third season, the story becomes a schizophrenic mess because Isayama legit autistic. He basically blows the brains out of his premise and has been struggling to find one ever since. He has no fucking idea what he's doing. Its turned into like 5 different stories and now is a time-travel story. I fully believe that this was going to be a time travel story or involve it in some major way. There's too much there for it not to be. Problem is...he completely fucks it up to the point where even his most ardent defenders are struggling.

Here's what happened:

Isayama foreshadows fuckery with memory or time travel. However, he has no idea how this is going to work. He might have had an idea, but clearly this wasn't planned or outlined. The rules aren't stated, it takes way too long to reach this critical element, there's far too much filler, and the way he pays off these 'clues' does not coincide with what he foreshadowed. Therefore, its quite obvious he didn't know where he was going with it, tried to forget about it for awhile, bought time, and then tried to make this 'pay off'. This is a very consistent theme with Isayama and Attack on Titan. It happens very often. The basement takes forever to get to. He has no fucking idea what is in it, so he drags it out. The problem is, what he drags it out with is far, FAR more interesting than what is actually IN the basement. Unfortunately, that 'drag' is the only good part of AoT, and it occurs in the first third. He spends the rest of the manga half-forming an idea, dragging it out for as long as he humanely can before struggling to complete it. If he can at all. Which leads to the 40 different stories that Attack on Titan becomes when it should have been a time travel, post apocalyptic story which is what it was. But since Isayama didn't plan, he was forced to drag it out into something that didn't fit this, at all.

Even so, let me play devil's advocate and all this shit and filler was planned. Lets say this is what he had in mind. Truly. It'd still be a failure because the payoff is so pathetic, so fucking terrible, it is literally not worth the time he put into foreshadowing it. Foreshadowing requires 2 parts: The clues and the pay off. You fuck up one, you fuck it all up. Occasionally he's fucked up clues. However, he's fucked up every payoff he's tried to deliver. So yes, he might have laid hints a decade ago. However, those hints are moot if the payoff to them is utter incomprehensible dogshit, which it is. You don't get a reward for that. I mean, anyone can lay down hints for something cool, put in filler material for 10 years and then massively fuck it up.

Sorry again for double-posting, but I've just been thinking about non-important, miscellaneous questions about this series that have been bothering me for a while. I apologize in advance if any of them have already been answered.

  • What happened to the Underground?
  • Did Carla know that Eren stabbed two grown men to death at the age of eight, and if so, what did she think about that?
  • Did orphanages exist before Historia founded one?
  • What happened to Jean's mom?
  • What happened to Connie's mom who got turned into a titan, but could still talk?
  • Why is Zackley still allowed to torture people, and where the fuck is he?
  • Do pianos exist in this world? I know guitars do.
  • How medically advanced are the Paradisers?
  • What happened to the woman who was helping Kenny, and did we ever find out her name?
  • Lastly, is this supposed to be a flashlight, or electric lantern? Either way, the light emanating from it looks way too bright, and artificial to be something the Paradisers (or at least the Survey Corps) to have. I know in the Inner Walls they have roughly Victorian age technology, but the object seen in the picture looks too advanced imo.

Since I don't want to spoil this terrible fucking story from any poor soul lured into getting invested in it, I'll just spoiler things.

  • When the Titans died, so did the Underground. It was far too interesting to live. There are not allowed to be cool ideas in this story that last, so they must die.
  • Eren went back in time and told Grisha not to tell her. Grisha doesn't because he fully believes that he is talking to his fully grown son from the future and doesn't think he's actually lost his fucking mind, which is what a rational response would be.
  • No, Historia invented orphanages. Nobody ever had the idea to put parentless children in one place so they wouldn't be exploited, stay out of trouble and be educated so they could be useful to the state. They were just either left to die, be abducted or made into soup.
  • She was killed in a horrible knitting accident, never to be seen again.
  • The inventor of the piano was deemed to be a heretic because he learned how to write music which might bring some joy to people's lives. He was stripped naked and publicly beaten to death.
  • Grisha introduced them to the concept of 'medicine' and 'hospitals'. Previously, doctors just gave you poisonous concoctions that just killed you and preformed amputations for 'haunted limbs'. Unfortunately, the military was very conservative and didn't adapt to the alien concept of 'first aid' and thought it was witchcraft, which is why there are no medics among any of the regiments.
  • Her name was Plot Device and she disappeared when she was no longer needed.
  • The lamp is a lamp made of frozen methane that glows. This methane is also under pressure and what allows them to fly around. It also means everyone in Attack on Titan smells like shit and is an explosion waiting to happen.
 
As @Bunny Tracks said, it does not.

Lets put it this way: This super, mega successful anime that got normies into it and is probably the only anime 99% of normies watch is ending after the fourth season with the manga having no real clear end in sight. Its not only ending after its fourth season, the studio that produced it and drew it, Wiz, handed it off to another studio. This is practically unheard of, especially with a blockbuster IP. Also don't give me that bullshit 'cancellation is common in anime'.

One Piece has ten trillion episodes and 400 movies. Ghost in the Shell is constantly being remade and retooled as series and as movies. Black Lagoon is rumored to be coming back after a forever hiatus. David Studios has held onto Jojo for dear fucking life for 12 years and will still adapt its least popular part. You do not give up a profitable IP in modern anime or cancel it. You just don't. ESPECIALLY with more material to adapt, and there is simply no way Season 4 can successfully adapt everything that happens after 3. It is literally not possible.

So why is a company not continuing an immensely profitable IP, handing it off to what amounts to a C team and then cancelling it when there is probably enough for another 3 or 4 seasons? I'll give you a hint: Its because everything that is coming is shit, the company can smell it a mile away and is wiping its hands clean of it. That is the clearest reason for this. Well, that and its pretty well known after the events of the Season 3 finale, readership in the manga dropped 50 fucking percent.

I mean the difference between Attack on Titan and those other shows is that both One Piece and Jojo are still ongoing (both in manga and anime) with Toei insistent on dragging it out while DavidPro's staff is full of Jojo fans. Black Lagoon and Ghost in the Shell can still work in adaptions or non-serialized works while Attack on Titan is near it's end and it's a serialized story. As for Season 4, it can likely adapt all that's left (since there are just 2 arcs with those being Marley and the Current Arc) if it's 25 episodes which is most likely to happen given how much hype Attack on Titan still has in Japan. They'd likely cut some stuff out or change things to be more cohesive for a TV format like they did with the Uprising Arc.

As for you thinking it's because it's shit, well that only depends on the sales because Japan has a lot of terrible series continue because it makes money and Attack on Titan is still profitable even in the manga because Iseyama while he is questionable in his storytelling has editors who'd tell him not to do certain things if it loses money (i.e. he let Sasha live much longer than he intended due to her popularity) meaning he’d make certain changes so profits don’t lower. If the sales and feedback from Japanese fans is really bad then the reason for “WIT transferring the series to a lower studio” could be that it’s unpopular/shit, but it's also because WIT studio is not a major studio (in fact they never handled big productions like AOT before) and is just a subset of Production I.G. It doesn't help WIT had a lot of production issues in regards to Attack on Titan since they had overstaffed themselves on certain episodes that didn't have a lot of dialogue and took a 4 year hiatus to adapt the second season and a six month hiatus to finish Season 3.

I know you hate AOT and I don't know if you are being hyperbolic but WIT had a lot of production issues with AOT in regards to getting deadlines done, and this is probably why they are handing it over to another studio since the company that owns the anime rights for AOT (Pony Canyon) had expressed multiple times they wanted the entire story of AOT to be adapted and were the ones to announce the final season.
 
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I mean the difference between Attack on Titan and those other shows is that both One Piece and Jojo are still ongoing (both in manga and anime) with Toei insistent on dragging it out while DavidPro's staff is full of Jojo fans. Black Lagoon and Ghost in the Shell can still work in adaptions or non-serialized works while Attack on Titan is near it's end and it's a serialized story. As for Season 4, it can likely adapt all that's left (since there are just 2 arcs with those being Marley and the Current Arc) if it's 25 episodes which is most likely to happen given how much hype Attack on Titan still has in Japan. They'd likely cut some stuff out or change things to be more cohesive for a TV format like they did with the Uprising Arc.

As for you thinking it's because it's shit, well that only depends on the sales because Japan has a lot of terrible series continue because it makes money and Attack on Titan is still profitable even in the manga because Iseyama while he is questionable in his storytelling has editors who'd tell him not to do certain things if it loses money (i.e. he let Sasha live much longer than he intended due to her popularity) meaning he’d make certain changes so profits don’t lower. If the sales and feedback from Japanese fans is really bad then the reason for “WIT transferring the series to a lower studio” could be that it’s unpopular/shit, but it's also because WIT studio is not a major studio (in fact they never handled big productions like AOT before) and is just a subset of Production I.G. It doesn't help WIT had a lot of production issues in regards to Attack on Titan since they had overstaffed themselves on certain episodes that didn't have a lot of dialogue and took a 4 year hiatus to adapt the second season and a six month hiatus to finish Season 3.

I know you hate AOT and I don't know if you are being hyperbolic but WIT had a lot of production issues with AOT in regards to getting deadlines done, and this is probably why they are handing it over to another studio since the company that owns the anime rights for AOT (Pony Canyon) had expressed multiple times they wanted the entire story of AOT to be adapted and were the ones to announce the final season.

Typically, 90% of the time in this thread I'm being hyperbolic, which is hard to tell since its the internet and all that. I just like shit posting. I think the story is dumb and I enjoy trashing it, but at the end of the day if you like it that's perfectly alright. Most of my annoyance with AoT is from lost potential, because I think it had a lot of it and it makes me sad such a good idea was handled in this way.

I'm not a crazy person frothing at the mouth...most of the time. But yeah, I didn't realize a lot of that shit. I'll admit when I'm wrong and I was wrong with this.
 
or made into soup.
I know you're joking, but that actually brings up a good point. With all the talk of food shortages, (at least in beginning of this series) I'm surprised that cannibalism, in the traditional sense, never comes up in this story. It's really kind of jarring, actually. You'd think that since AoT loves to harp on about humans being the real monsters that this sort of thing would at least be mentioned, but to my knowledge, it never is.

If I had to guess as to why, it could be because there's already enough cannibalism running around in this series via titans, or that traditional cannibalism is just an even bigger taboo than it is in our world. Or he just didn't want to copy from Tokyo Ghoul. Whichever.

I think the story is dumb and I enjoy trashing it, but at the end of the day if you like it that's perfectly alright. Most of my annoyance with AoT is from lost potential, because I think it had a lot of it and it makes me sad such a good idea was handled in this way.
This. It's okay to like AoT. There's nothing wrong with that. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. It's one of the reasons I created this thread. My current dislike of the series primarily also comes from the fact that Isayama took a brilliant idea and seemingly went out of his way to ruin it. He ruined it, and yet people still say that it's a flawless masterpiece, and will attack anyone who says otherwise.

Again, there is nothing wrong with liking this series, but overlooking its flaws, and lashing out at anyone who dares point them out is the problem.
 
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This chapter I felt explains a lot about the lore of AOT well and I find it funny how Iseyama probably told the people who were animating season 2's ED to animate weird imagery to draw it out later.

Also the ending heavily implies that time had stopped when Zeke and Eren were in PATHSland given everyone was in the exact same position and that makes a lot of sense.

Now it seems AOT is now in it's endgame and I predict that it will end in around 6-8 chapters.
 
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Why can't Isayama go a single chapter without creating new plot holes? Is it really that hard to just think things through for two seconds?

First of all, there is no goddamn reason for Ymir to serve Eldia once she bonded with the tree. Yes she was a slave but it wasn't like she was raised from birth to be one. She was captured when Eldia raided her village, and judging from her apperence, it couldn't have been more then two years ago. I know someone will try to explain it away but her just being that nice, but serving Eldia means slaughtering thousands of people. If she wants to be nice everyone, she would, you know, not kill them just to please someone who treated her like shit.

Second, why did Friedia say that Ymir was a good person that everyone should strive to be? Before this chapter came out, I assumed this meant that Ymir was innocent, it was just her descendents that did all the stuff King Kuck decided every single Eldian has to die from. But we now we know that Ymir willingly participated in Eldia's conquest, so why does King Kuck like her? If the idea is that he views her as what all Eldians should be like, a complete slave who obeys without question, that would really work, it would make sense and suit his character, but the way the narrative tries to portray the king as pitiful makes it clear that's not the intention.

Third, if multiple people eating the same shifter splits the power evenly between them, then why the fuck are there only nine shifters? Both Eldia and Marley would have to realize there's an advantage to having more then just nine shifters. Hell, Marley was stretched thin when they started their first invasion of Paradis and they could only send Reiner, Bertholdt, Annie, and Marcel in alone without Zeke, who was the leader of the team. If they could just make more shifters, why not just do that? You can't say they didn't want to risk the power getting weaker, Ymir's Titan was split nine fucking times and each one, except the Cart and Jaw, is incredibly powerful.

Fourth, Isayama still can't world build worth shit. The Eldia chieftain refered to Marley as the "cursed Marlians", so there was already hatred between the two of them,, so what the fuck was that all about?

Fifth, what was the point of having Kruger say there is no truth in this world, and that anyone could be made a God or a Devil depending on how history paints them, if you're just going to show the truth anyways?

Sixth and most importantly, with the Rumbling now finally activated and the entire cast sent on a one way trip to the ending, it's finally confirmed that putting Annie in the crystal was completely and utterly pointless. There was zero reason, from the perspective of the audience or the characters, for Eren to not just eat her at the end of their second fight. Its not like it would've Instantly given him all her memories, it's been established that blood relation plays a big role in how quickly one gains their victim's memories.

But there is one thing I really like about this chapter, and that's Eren managing to free Ymir from being a slave by simply treating her with compassion, hugging her and telling her that's she's better then she thinks she is. Not only is it brilliant that the way to free her was to simply tell her that she deserves to be free, but it's finally the old Eren returning. Until he returned to Paradis, Eren has always been telling people to believe in themselves, and that they don't have to just accept the status quo and remains slaves.

Only here, he's not saying it in a passionate youth way, he's saying it in a much more wise, mentor way. It's a perfect evolution of his character, one we haven't seen since his talk with Reiner, and I hope that Isayama will switch him back to the Big Boss personality he had in Marley, and not change his post time skip personality for the fourth fucking time.
 
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Only here, he's not saying it in a passionate youth way, he's saying it in a much more wise, mentor way. It's a perfect evolution of his character, one we haven't seen since his talk with Reiner, and I hope that Isayama will switch him back to the Big Boss personality he had in Marley, and not change his post time skip personality for the fourth fucking time.
How long before Eren goes back to "I always hated you!" because Isayama wants to hurt his audience?
 
I always wondered what this was from the ending of the FIRST season of the anime.
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Anyway, chapter 122 is titled: "From You, 2000 years ago".
The very first chapter was titled "To you, 2000 years from now".
I wonder what that's supposed to mean.

Also I wonder if it was Eren that started the rumbling or just Ymir herself after 2000 years of pent up frustration and titan molding.
 
I always wondered what this was from the ending of the FIRST season of the anime.
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Anyway, chapter 122 is titled: "From You, 2000 years ago".
The very first chapter was titled "To you, 2000 years from now".
I wonder what that's supposed to mean.

Also I wonder if it was Eren that started the rumbling or just Ymir herself after 2000 years of pent up frustration and titan molding.
Minor correction, that was Season 2's anime ending.

I think Eren was the one to start the rumbling given he tried to help Ymir and also encouraged her to do it.
 
Haven't read the full chapter yet, but I have read some spoilers. Is no one gonna comment on how it appears that the entire plot of this story was kicked off by a fucking pig?

Also, I'm glad that Tumblr has its priorities straight. To be fair, it's all I care about now, too. Well, that and the identity of Historia's baby daddy.

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Tumblr has only always cared about shipping and not given a single fuck as to the 'real' plot of the manga.

Why can't Isayama go a single chapter without creating new plot holes? Is it really that hard to just think things through for two seconds?

First of all, there is no goddamn reason for Ymir to serve Eldia once she bonded with the tree. Yes she was a slave but it wasn't like she was raised from birth to be one. She was captured when Eldia raided her village, and judging from her apperence, it couldn't have been more then two years ago. I know someone will try to explain it away but her just being that nice, but serving Eldia means slaughtering thousands of people. If she wants to be nice everyone, she would, you know, not kill them just to please someone who treated her like shit.

Second, why did Friedia say that Ymir was a good person that everyone should strive to be? Before this chapter came out, I assumed this meant that Ymir was innocent, it was just her descendents that did all the stuff King Kuck decided every single Eldian has to die from. But we now we know that Ymir willingly participated in Eldia's conquest, so why does King Kuck like her? If the idea is that he views her as what all Eldians should be like, a complete slave who obeys without question, that would really work, it would make sense and suit his character, but the way the narrative tries to portray the king as pitiful makes it clear that's not the intention.

Third, if multiple people eating the same shifter splits the power evenly between them, then why the fuck are there only nine shifters? Both Eldia and Marley would have to realize there's an advantage to having more then just nine shifters. Hell, Marley was stretched thin when they started their first invasion of Paradis and they could only send Reiner, Bertholdt, Annie, and Marcel in alone without Zeke, who was the leader of the team. If they could just make more shifters, why not just do that? You can't say they didn't want to risk the power getting weaker, Ymir's Titan was split nine fucking times and each one, except the Cart and Jaw, is incredibly powerful.

Fourth, Isayama still can't world build worth shit. The Eldia chieftain refered to Marley as the "cursed Marlians", so there was already hatred between the two of them,, so what the fuck was that all about?

Fifth, what was the point of having Kruger say there is no truth in this world, and that anyone could be made a God or a Devil depending on how history paints them, if you're just going to show the truth anyways?

Sixth and most importantly, with the Rumbling now finally activated and the entire cast sent on a one way trip to the ending, it's finally confirmed that putting Annie in the crystal was completely and utterly pointless. There was zero reason, from the perspective of the audience or the characters, for Eren to not just eat her at the end of their second fight. Its not like it would've Instantly given him all her memories, it's been established that blood relation plays a big role in how quickly one gains their victim's memories.

But there is one thing I really like about this chapter, and that's Eren managing to free Ymir from being a slave by simply treating her with compassion, hugging her and telling her that's she's better then she thinks she is. Not only is it brilliant that the way to free her was to simply tell her that she deserves to be free, but it's finally the old Eren returning. Until he returned to Paradis, Eren has always been telling people to believe in themselves, and that they don't have to just accept the status quo and remains slaves.

Only here, he's not saying it in a passionate youth way, he's saying it in a much more wise, mentor way. It's a perfect evolution of his character, one we haven't seen since his talk with Reiner, and I hope that Isayama will switch him back to the Big Boss personality he had in Marley, and not change his post time skip personality for the fourth fucking time.

I mean, that's the only good thing about this chapter is Ymir and Eren. Everything else is lol. The whole thing is trying to force shit to fit that doesn't much make sense. The only thing I think foreshadowed was time travel fuckery. Problem is, he never ever fleshed it out, so it was constantly shifted, changed and altered. You can't do a time travel story without establishing rules.

I'll try to answer your points:

1) Isayama hasn't fleshed out Ymir and wants to contrast her with Eren as her being a 'slave' and Eren freeing her. As in, somehow the Attack Titan is the AMERICA freedom Titan and King Cuck restricted its power to make Ymir an eternal slave. Note: This is not explicitly stated, implied or thought out. There's no evidence at all for this and requires assumptions to make true.

2) No idea. Its a complete mystery.

3) Isayama did not know where he was going with this. He is barreling towards the end with no fucks given. He has had no idea how his world works and arbitrarily changes it based on the plot requirements and to jam it in there. There is no explanation for this. The walls being named after the daughters is hilarious and pointless at the same time.

4) Nobody knows. This should have been established a long time ago. He's forced to rush the world building because he's left it in the dark for so long.

5) Isayama wanted to make the story look deeper than it is.

6) Isayama did not know where he was going and left her in the crystal for years and years. It turns out in the end, it was utterly irrelevant. He does this quite a lot. He sets up something to be important and just drops it. Historia's pregnancy, Levi and Hange, Annie in the Crystal....all left hanging. They might be rushed and crushed together to just have some resolution but it probably won't be satisfying.

And who knows what the fuck he's going to do. He just changes plot, personalities and everything he needs to to make things fit. It turns out, shocker, that Eren was going to do the rumbling all along, which everyone knew. Yet he kept it hidden like it was this massive surprise. Another waste of the reader's time. Its not 'hurting' the reader if you bore them and do the expected thing.

The sad thing is, if we knew Eren's goals, Ymir's history beforehand, it could have been a real emotional moment. You could have spent the entire chapter with Eren and Ymir discussing things and make Eren look like less of an asshole, trying to free this young girl from being a pawn for eternity. The problem is that these should have been the central themes all along, yet there was no planning to this. They're just crushed in at the very end. That Eren's goal was this over-arching one, to prevent this young girl who never wanted this power to be a plaything for the nation's of the world. To end Titans, to eliminate them, to free Ymir from slavery. Which makes Eren's freedom boner make sense, meaning he was the only one dedicated enough to do it. No time travel fuckery, no "ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN", just a desperate cry for help from an enslaved young girl and Eren's will for freedom.

It'd be so thematically poignant, this human drive to freedom. That tough decisions and friendships had to be sacrificed to free the world of the titans and Ymir from her living hell. Its just another massive disappointment from this manga. There's SO MUCH wasted potential here. We're just getting crappy cliff hanger after crappy cliff hanger. I honestly can't be bothered to even have a hate boner for this much anymore.

All in all, this chapter just makes me sad. The potential was there, even with the shitty Game of Thrones stuff. Make Eren Big Boss, driven by pure will. Make his motives known. Make Ymir's history known. Imply that they're eventually going to meet with Zeke, who wants to keep Ymir enslaved. Build this up, ratchet up the tension, make this the ultimate confrontation of the manga. Freedom vs. Slavery. Status-quo vs. a New World. The End of Titans or the Beginning of a New Cycle. Instead, he just constantly went with 'SHOCKING REVEAL', like it was a daytime soap opera.

Instead, its just pointless reveals that degrade the quality and themes. You can see there was a chance for something good here. Isayama is just too autistic and terrible of a story-teller to do it.
 
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