Attack on Titan Griefing Thread - >tfw even your VA thinks that you're a loser

How will Eren be stopped?


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He's not God, he's Satan apparently, but he is influencing space and time. With all the stupid shit that just keeps getting piled into this series, I honestly don't even remember if God even exists in AoT. I mean, I think Ymir is supposed to be God, but I genuinely cannot remember if that was ever explicitly stated.
exactly, I wouldn't see god going around removing the agency from others by whispering "hey fuck that hot slit" into his father's ear. Again not really clear how PATHS works and the fact there aren't time paradoxes but branches of different dimensions just convolute things further. But Eren is satan giving people time schizophrenia. So nothing really matters the story is unsalvagable and progress will feel undeserved no matter the conclusion.
 
So Eren is just God now, using and influencing spacetime?

Eren can travel through Space and Time through every single person that's ever held the Attack Titan once he's at the coordinate. Since time and space don't matter anymore, he can literally go back to the first Attack Titan user and influence him to have power over Ymir. I don't see a realistic way of him 'losing' anymore. Its just not possible.

The fact that Eren saw the literal future means he can not only influence the dead, but he can travel forward through time as well. So he's already traveled forward through time to make his future happen. 'Oh maybe you can't really see it hurr' is faggotry. Bullshit. If Eren saw that, it happened. He's been able to influence the past. He sees the future. There is no story anymore. You're honestly just waiting for the chapters to come out to see how Eren won.

If he loses, its even more idiotic and creates a paradox, because how can Eren see something that never actually happened? There's also a multitude of problems. Eren and Zeke can actually physically manifest in the past. Its insanity. Grisha changes his mind 3 times. Which if he agreed with Zeke, he'd have never given the Attack Titan to Eren. You could go "Oh but they forget". So, Grisha who wasn't going to kill the royal family kills them and then decides not to help Eren because time no longer exists and who knows how long he had to think about it. Then he 'forgets' that and helps Eren again, which he didn't want to. It makes next to no sense.

Eren's not really God actually. He's Satan.

Okay, so I know it's kinda pointless to speculate on this, but what do you guys think is gonna happen now? Because I just thought of something horrifying, and well, just look at the poll.

Edit: I can't fucking proofread to save my life.

Eren will win. Period. It is impossible to stop him because you cannot change what he saw. If Zeke 'wins' its idiotic. More than likely its a futile last attempt. Obviously there will be some fake drama, but if Eren loses its a paradox and a violation. But there's already fucking ten million time paradoxes and impossibilities created by this chapter. So basically, whatever Isayama wants to happen will happen.

There are no longer any more rules in Attack on Titan. It is complete author fiat. No character, not even Eren, has any agency. Isayama won't even do asspulls. There are no any asspulls. Things just 'happen'. There's no rhyme or reason anymore. This makes Jojo look like it follows a stringent rule set that it never deviates from.

Historia is actually Eren from another time-line. Eren was supposed to be born in another time as Historia but he manipulated history so he was born as himself and Historia was born as female. Eren goes back through time to whisper into Historia's ear to fuck him, so he literally fucks and impregnates himself (This is a reference to All You Zombies, a time travel story in which the protagonist is every character in the story, because he's born a hermaphrodite, he's his own grandpa).

Also who really gives a fuck who is the father of Historia's child. Nothing in this story fucking matters any more. Isayama failed completely as an author. Like, its rare you see a fuck-up this major. Does he even have a fucking editor? Is he even listening to him anymore? I think the editor officially has given the fuck up, because any editor on the planet would go "No. This makes no sense. You will kill your story." Then if you continued with it, they'd beat the shit out of you.

Like, literally nothing matters. I hope Levi bleeds the fuck out just so Isayama buries this story even further into shit. Because Levi sure as fuck isn't stopping Eren.

He's not God, he's Satan apparently, but he is influencing space and time. With all the stupid shit that just keeps getting piled into this series, I honestly don't even remember if God even exists in AoT. I mean, I think Ymir is supposed to be God, but I genuinely cannot remember if that was ever explicitly stated.

That's my reading on it. Eren's fucking Satan. No doubt.

Some faggot was listing all the things Attack on Titan was and thought it was genius and I'm like, 'Nigger, stuffing everything and the kitchen sink into a story don't make it fucking good'.


So what the hell else does Eren know?

The walls fell as the colossal titans destroyed all of Eldia. Thousands upon thousands of broken bodies, Marleyan and Eldian lay crushed beneath their feet, their rivers of blood mixing. Warrior and Devil. It no longer mattered. He was unsure if anyone survived. He no longer cared. Behind him, Eldia burned. The fires they spread with the heat of their bodies painted the blue sky a blood red. Everything was on fire. Everything was death. Most of the other Titans had reached Marley already. He could see the scorched earth, and the burnt husks of the dead on their shores. It was the end of all things.

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Also who really gives a fuck who is the father of Historia's child.
I care because it's one of the only major plot points that I can actually coherently follow without wanting to blow my brains out. It's one of the three simple plot points that still exist. Annie's entire existence, Schrodinger's Levi, and who the father of Historia's baby is. Those are the only other major plot points that still make sense to me, and that I can still understand. Also, I just really want it to be Kenny, because that would be fucking hilarious.

Also off-topic, but can I just say that I absolutely hate how no one in this series can fucking emote anymore. Everyone always has the same deadass, dull surprise, tired af look in their eyes, and I really fucking hate it. Take this page for example.
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People are gushing about how "sad Eren looks" and I'm just like "MOTHERFUCKER HE'S LOOKED LIKE THAT FOR THE PAST 20 CHAPTERS".

Isayama's art is so fucking ugly and I think it's getting worse. There's not even some pages that look good anymore. Literally the last page that I could say was decent was the one where Gabi nearly got decked with a bottle of wine, and that's only because the drawing of the bottle and wine looked surprisingly well detailed. Everything else sucks.

I am fucking convinced that the anime is the only thing carrying this series because it cleans up Isayama's shitty art, and makes it look beautiful, and patches up most the plot issues if it can. If the anime's art and plot were just like the manga, this series would've never got popular in the first place. I fucking guarantee it.
 
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Sometimes I get the hate here, but other times it seems a bit overboard. I thought the chapter was okay. Way too slow paced, and the art wasn't great at times, but I like Zeke's, Eren's and Grisha's increasingly complex motivations. There were tons of hints throughout this chapter that the three's viewpoints and motivations have changed and continue to change, and time travel has been hinted at for ages. I mean, the chapter even goes out of its way to say that this isn't a situation where every titan has this ability. I like that Eren is now an active rather than reactive character. The only thing that would make me mad, and it sure could happen, is if there's no follow up to any other character and there's no follow up to the "beat you over the head" indications that Eren is conflicted/full of self-loathing.
 
Sometimes I get the hate here, but other times it seems a bit overboard. I thought the chapter was okay. Way too slow paced, and the art wasn't great at times, but I like Zeke's, Eren's and Grisha's increasingly complex motivations. There were tons of hints throughout this chapter that the three's viewpoints and motivations have changed and continue to change, and time travel has been hinted at for ages. I mean, the chapter even goes out of its way to say that this isn't a situation where every titan has this ability. I like that Eren is now an active rather than reactive character. The only thing that would make me mad, and it sure could happen, is if there's no follow up to any other character and there's no follow up to the "beat you over the head" indications that Eren is conflicted/full of self-loathing.

Grisha's motivation is pathetically laughable now. He has none. It was all Eren. He changes his mind three times. Two because of Eren, one randomly. Eren's motivation may as well not matter, because its never revealed. My interpretation of him as Satan and getting an erection at the end of the world is just as valid as him wanting to save it. Because there's nothing there. Not to mention Isayama does whatever he wants now. Zeke's motivation has remained the exact same as it always was. It hasn't changed. In fact, he enacts it. Also the reasons for his motivation are fucking weak as shit. But you know what, at least we know what they are.

Also this isn't time travel. Not just. It is literally transcending space and time. Eren can travel forward and backward anywhere and everywhere, while staying in the same spot. He can interact with the dead and influence their actions. The entire chapter is literally a time paradox, as I've explained. And its not even a complicated one, its the most basic one. Eren can literally cause himself to be born by influencing Grisha's motivations. He can be anywhere and everywhere at once. It completely breaks the narrative, motivation and agency of any character in the series. Every event is now in question, because its observable that Eren has influenced most of the major events in the series. He caused himself to get the Attack Titan, he caused the Uprising Arc and the Crowning of Historia by keeping Rod alive. What else has he caused? Like I said, he can literally, not figuratively, instantly move himself to the first Attack Titan user, convince them to make Ymir listen to him, and then stop Ymir. All in an instant, because time/space no longer exists for Eren. Also, Eren should be able to move time as soon as Zeke betrays him to warn himself. Or he never did because this doesn't matter. Eren's future has to happen. Because he cannot see something that has not happened. It is inevitable. His abilities are never explained, never fully fleshed out, given a dumb explanation so Isayama can make what he wants happens. Which is why it isn't inevitable, because Isayama has been using writer fiat for years and then just did the ultimate pull of it where he basically throws all pretense of having a coherent narrative where things just happen for a reason to where they happen because he wants them to do so. It should be literally impossible for Eren to lose right now, as he is functionally a God Satan who can go back to the beginning of time itself because his abilities are so broad and over reaching. This was obviously shoe-horned in because it isn't thought about in any serious fashion, at all.

Time travel has not been hinted at. The movement of memories has, and it was shown to be brief, almost only flashes of insight. What you're thinking of is precognition, the act of knowing something before it happens. Or knowing secrets of the past. That's not the same thing, at all. What's happening right now is full fledged manipulation. By physical manifestation. Anywhere at any point in time, while you remain in one place. Hence, transcendence of space time. This only lines up because the scattered hints were vague enough to maybe possibly support it. You really accept that bullshit explanation that Eren can use his power because he went against the founder and only in this super special place? Fucking really? That makes no fucking sense.

Dude, Eren was the only active character. I don't know what manga you've been reading, but for a long time the manga is waiting on Eren to do something while everyone else has their thumb up their ass. Everything else is filler. From Zeke blowing himself up into another dimension, to Falco getting bashed, to Levi getting exploded. He's the only one advancing the main plot. Well, him and Zeke.


I care because it's one of the only major plot points that I can actually coherently follow without wanting to blow my brains. It's the one of the three simple plot points that still exist. Annie's entire existence, Schrodinger's Levi, and who the father of Historia's baby is. Those are the only other major plot points that still make sense to me, and that I can still understand. Also, I just really want it to be Kenny, because that would be fucking hilarious.

Also off-topic, but can I just say that I absolutely hate how no one in this series can fucking emote anymore. Everyone always has the same deadass, dull surprise, tired af look in their eyes, and I really fucking hate it. Take this page for example.
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People are gushing about how "sad Eren looks" and I'm just like "MOTHERFUCKER HE'S LOOKED LIKE THAT FOR THE PAST 20 CHAPTERS".

Isayama's art is so fucking ugly and I think it's getting worse. There's not even some pages that look good anymore. Literally the last page that I could say was decent was the one where Gabi nearly got decked with a bottle of wine, and that's only because the drawing of the bottle and wine looked surprisingly well detailed. Everything else sucks.

I am fucking convinced that the anime is the only thing carrying this series because it cleans up Isayama's shitty art, and makes it look beautiful, and patches up most the plot issues if it can. If the anime's art and plot were just like the manga, this series would've never got popular in the first place. I fucking guarantee it.

I honestly can't muster myself to care, honestly. I mean, all those things seem pretty mundane in comparison to the ability to transcend space and time itself. It also won't be Kenny because that would be fucking hilarious and this manga doesn't do that. It was more than likely some random fucker who doesn't matter because Isayama is autistic.

Its more and more obvious that Isayama is waiting to the deadline to get things done because he obviously has no fucking plan in place.

Oh, most definitely the anime is carrying this garbage. Remember, the manga lost 50% of the readership after the basement scene and has been mostly about shipping for a very long time now. Its also going to shed even more readers, because this chapter is extremely poor. In art and writing.

Also the anime won't be carrying the series any longer, because its been passed off to another studio and will probably get the 'Punching Man: Season 2 treatment'. I find it hilarious that people start liking it only for Viz to shed it like it has fucking AIDs and say it has one season left. Which given the amount of content after the basement, is kind of shocking. If you don't think about it. However, it's a really clear indication in that they know the material is not good. David Productions has been holding onto Jojo for dear fucking life for almost a decade now. Stone Ocean is the least popular Jojo manga by far and they're still not ditching it. However, right after Season 3 you hear Viz is dropping that shit like a hot potato. You don't just let a popular series go unless you have a very good reason. Like the reason being that it becomes pure, absolute trash.
 
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After the events of chapter 121, I wanted some happiness in this thread, so here's a list of things from this series that I both genuinely like and have made me laugh in this series. Feel free to add to it.

  • Armin falling down the stairs and somehow breaking both his legs despite only landing on one.
  • Levi kicking through the door to get to the basement.
  • Kenny's Ackerman's entire existence, and the fact that when the fan translations first came out, his name was translated as KANYE. I really wish that was his actual name because that would be hysterical.
  • Sasha and everything she ever did.
  • The spoon incident.
  • The fact that guitars exist in this world.
  • The fact that Levi is really short.
  • Every time Mikasa went yandere.
  • Every time Eren raged so hard it made him look ridiculous.
 
Tbqh it doesn't take that much to make attack on titans nazi germany to seem solid

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Just have the coordinate have the side effect of spawning dumb titans out of thin air within the striped red round area

Notice the small part of the red area being on Marleys territory.

And have Marley have spent the last 100 years being busy eradicating the titans elsewhere on the continent. Trying to eradicate the titans from the world by moving the coordinate to a place where it won't do any harm. Keeping that small red area as a militarized zone and having them be constantly worried about titans fucking them up and spreading the disease elsewhere. if they ever fail at keeping them inside the militarized zone.

Everything else applies, killing the coordinate would cause super trouble because it'd be reborn into a random Eldian, etc.

And yes, that would make Eren the spokesman for anti-vaxxers, if only on accident. Think of Marley as trying to get rid of measels.

Eren has a difficult choice to make though because as he moves titans might spawn out of thin air within the walls if he doesn't move to an island further away quickly enough, think of it as a curse. as the striped round area moves with him.

Titans can't swim (right?) so the ocean titans just drowns instantly as they spawn. It's the ones that spawn over earth that's the issue.

This might even make the pacifist king seem sympathetic as he has a good reason to never wanting anyone to leave the walls, the only issue was, he didn't realize how big the red rounded area was and didn't know it was causing problems on the continent.


I just found this vid recently
I recommend it since it also touches on the edgy anti-religion sentiment that's been discussed here.

I think I've seen this video before, is this the one where the guy says attack on titan is philosophically bankrupt because it's suppose to be a baseline for questioning? without overwhelming the viewer with more advanced philosophy like psycho-pass does?

If not I might have to try and find that video because it did make a good point and those types of shows are necessary.

edit; now that I've skipped through it, yes that's the video, it's pretty good tbqh and a recommended watch.

"Attack on titan isn't a gritty war story" aged like m1lk though.
 
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Titans can't swim (right?) so the ocean titans just drowns instantly as they spawn. It's the ones that spawn over earth that's the issue.
This is something we actually don't know. To be honest, I think the only titan we've seen in water so far is Eren when he was carrying a boat back from the KoM. From the look of the panel, it appeared that he was underneath the boat entire time, so presumably titan shifters don't have to breathe, or at the very least, can hold their breath for a very long time. I'm pretty sure regular titans don't have to breathe, and therefore can't drown.

The possibility of ocean titans, or as I like to call them, sea titans, is something that is never brought up in the entire series, almost to the point where it feels suspicious. Honestly, back before all this shit happened, I thought that the cast was gonna be chilling on a boat exploring the ocean only for a fucking titan to rise out of the depths, and thus lead to either a downer ending (which we're probably getting anyways) or the intro to a fucking sequel. Instead we got Nazis and time-travel. Yeah.

Anyways, titans, if they were ever to spawn into ocean, probably wouldn't die. They probably can't swim, and presumably they would either float, or walk the ocean floor, though if it's the latter, they might explode due to the difference in internal pressure. If they can float, or swim, they would mostly likely just be bobbing around in the water until they eventually reached land, at which they would presumably crawl out.

As for the rest of your post, yeah, the more you try to realistically think about this plot, the more problems it has. I still don't know why Isayama went through all this shit. Also "that would make Eren the spokesman for anti-vaxxers," is something I didn't know I needed to hear till now.
 
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Anyways, titans, if they were ever to spawn into ocean, probably wouldn't die. They probably can't swim, and presumably they would either float, or walk the ocean floor, though if it's the latter, they might explode due to the difference in internal pressure. If they can float, or swim, they would mostly likely just be bobbing around in the water until they eventually reached land, at which they would presumably crawl out.

In that case I'd make it so the salt water slowly kills them (think of it like rust except it breaks apart the titan slowly over time) that with the reduced sunlight down there would make it difficult for them to move causing most (or ideally all) of them to stand still in a sleep mode underwater. Being slowly eradicated by the salt water. This could've been how Marley managed to get rid of them all on the continent as well, instead of just them using bombs. I think I'd be cool of Marley had some other technology like the 3D maneuver gear to deal with the titans.

Another alternative could be that Ymir checks if there is ground underneath and simply chooses not to spawn them if there aren't, but that makes the whole process seem a lot more intentional and not just a side-effect. That would lay aid to the theory that Ymir is satan which i'm not a super strong fan off.

Also "that would make Eren the spokesman for anti-vaxxers," is something I didn't know I needed to hear till now.

Glad I could help
 
In that case I'd make it so the salt water slowly kills them (think of it like rust except it breaks apart the titan slowly over time) that with the reduced sunlight down there would make it difficult for them to move causing most (or ideally all) of them to stand still in a sleep mode underwater. Being slowly eradicated by the salt water. This could've been how Marley managed to get rid of them all on the continent as well, instead of just them using bombs. I think I'd be cool of Marley had some other technology like the 3D maneuver gear to deal with the titans.
I was going to mention this in my other post, but I didn't, because I wasn't sure how it would work given the overall information we have so far. Regular titans do have the ability to heal. It's not as strong as titan shifters, but they can heal themselves slowly over time. This would probably make it so they wouldn't dissolve in saltwater. Again. I don't know for certain, and if the healing ability isn't strong enough to counteract the effects of the saltwater, then what you're suggesting is probably true.

I honestly completely forgot about the sunlight thing. That is a very good point, and that might explain why we never see titans in water in the first place. They could very well just sink, and just be stuck in sleep mode like you said. Part of me doubts that, however, considering that titans are apparently very light considering their overall size. Given the current information on titans, they most likely float.

Regardless if either of you're theories is true, it would a clear up a lot problems in the series too. It still wouldn't be enough to save it from being a plothole-ridden mess, but at least some things would make a bit more sense.
 
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I am going to believe it's some time shenanigans like time moves faster in the PATHs world or time stopped in the main world.
That would have to be the case, since while you don't instantly die from decapitation (at least not the kind Eren suffered) you die less than twenty-seconds later, so either what you're saying has to be true, or Eren's fucking dead. Or neither is true, and Isayama does another asspull, which is unfortunately probably what's going to happen.

Also, which part of Eren is going to heal? The head or the body? Either Eren grows a new body (which, holy shit that is horrifying) or the body grows a new head (which is still horrifying, but not nearly as much imo as the former). Or both heal, and we get two Erens, which while being absolutely hysterical, opens up a whole new black hole of questions.
 
That would have to be the case, since while you don't instantly die from decapitation (at least not the kind Eren suffered) you die less than twenty-seconds later, so either what you're saying has to be true, or Eren's fucking dead. Or neither is true, and Isayama does another asspull, which is unfortunately probably what's going to happen.

Also, which part of Eren is going to heal? The head or the body? Either Eren grows a new body (which, holy shit that is horrifying) or the body grows a new head (which is still horrifying, but not nearly as much imo as the former). Or both heal, and we get two Erens, which while being absolutely hysterical, opens up a whole new black hole of questions.
Honestly I don't think it'd be a big deal considering it had been established before that titan shifter's can move their consciousness with what Reiner did when his head got blown off so I think Eren will do that if there is no time thing for PATHs.
 
Honestly I don't think it'd be a big deal considering it had been established before that titan shifter's can move their consciousness with what Reiner did when his head got blown off so I think Eren will do that if there is no time thing for PATHs.
Oh yeah, that is a thing. Good point. I think what's making me question it this time is that Eren's entire head has been separated from his body, so I'm just kind of curious as to what part is going to heal. Like if the body grows a new head, what do they do with the other one? Burn it? Bury it? Give it to Mikasa? Same thing with the head growing a new body. I know it doesn't matter, but I still wanna know.

Come to think of it, the ambiguous fate of severed heads is somehow a reoccurring thing in AoT. Eren's, Reiner's, fucking Isabel's, this seems to happen a lot in this series.
 
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Oh yeah, that is a thing. Good point. I think what's making me question it this time is that Eren's entire head has been separated from his body, so I'm just kind of curious as to what part is going to heal. Like if the body grows a new head, what do they do with the other one? Burn it? Bury it? Give it to Mikasa? Same thing with the head growing a new body. I know it doesn't matter, but I still wanna know.

Come to think of it, the ambiguous fate of sever heads is somehow a reoccurring thing in AoT. Eren's, Reiner's, fucking Isabel's, this seems to happen a lot in this series.
I mean considering how regeneration works, it likely just burns away.
 
I have to disagree about a couple of things with @Secret Asshole I'll do my best to be brief to avoid a wall of text.

The new time travel shit reminds a lot more to the Netflix series "Dark" than GoT 8 due to the "future affects the past yet nothing can be changed at all due to causality's logic" implications.

The Attack Titan doesn't have the time travel power, this occurred due to the circumstances of the coordinate who does not posses royal blood accessing PATHS while linked with someone carrying royal blood like Zeke, that's why I believe Eren can only influence past Attack Titan users and he's THE ONLY ONE who's ever done so, he cannot just randomly manipulate every single person accross time and space as that would be retarded.

As it is shown he can only send memories accross time and "whisper" to influence previous Attack Titans but they still retained their own free will, also what they did in the past cannot be undone or changed, that's why we only see Grisha "interacting" with Eren and Zeke.

This implicates that the Attack Titan never influenced Eren to "march forward" or look for freedom, but it was actually Eren's influence on the Titan itself that did with previous users.

This gives the ending some potential to be poetic in the sense that it could be revealed that everything that happened in the story was a struggle between the wills of the past (the Cuck King) vs the wills of the future (Eren), which (ignoring the modern influences GoT BS) does tie pretty well with the Norse mythos the series borrows.

You can say whatever you want about Isayama but he's actually a master of foreshadowing.
This one's worth over a decade.
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I have to disagree about a couple of things with @Secret Asshole I'll do my best to be brief to avoid a wall of text.

The new time travel shit reminds a lot more to the Netflix series "Dark" than GoT 8 due to the "future affects the past yet nothing can be changed at all due to causality's logic" implications.

The Attack Titan doesn't have the time travel power, this occurred due to the circumstances of the coordinate who does not posses royal blood accessing PATHS while linked with someone carrying royal blood like Zeke, that's why I believe Eren can only influence past Attack Titan users and he's THE ONLY ONE who's ever done so, he cannot just randomly manipulate every single person accross time and space as that would be exceptional.

As it is shown he can only send memories accross time and "whisper" to influence previous Attack Titans but they still retained their own free will, also what they did in the past cannot be undone or changed, that's why we only see Grisha "interacting" with Eren and Zeke.

This implicates that the Attack Titan never influenced Eren to "march forward" or look for freedom, but it was actually Eren's influence on the Titan itself that did with previous users.

This gives the ending some potential to be poetic in the sense that it could be revealed that everything that happened in the story was a struggle between the wills of the past (the Cuck King) vs the wills of the future (Eren), which (ignoring the modern influences GoT BS) does tie pretty well with the Norse mythos the series borrows.

You can say whatever you want about Isayama but he's actually a master of foreshadowing.
This one's worth over a decade.
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He's been shown to have direct conversations with Grisha, not just whispering. He has a full conversation with him nearly, and shows Grisha the future. That's a lot more than whispering. It was 'whispering' at first, but we then see a total conversation.

Its also directly stated that Eren is the only one able to use the time travel powers because it was only available to those that went against King Cuck and nobody did before Eren. And if he can influence Attack Titan users, he can go right back to the past from the first user. Time and space doesn't matter in the story anymore. We also don't know the extent of it, because this story has been shown to do whatever it wants.

Also, you can't tell if that's foreshadowing or shoving in some bullshit to make it fit with his earlier narrative. The way the story is composed illustrates that this was not planned, because it is incoherent at this point.

Even so, he's taken motivation from Grisha which is garbage.
 
As @Stay safe has pointed out, the problem is that Isayama really struggles with clarity. As of recently, everything is either incredibly vague, flat-out not explained, over explained to the point of absurdity, or contradicts the overall setting and world-building of the series. Sometimes all four at once.

I will say that @Tim Buckley is technically correct when they say that this memory shit was foreshadowed, however, like I and others have said before, it was so vague that it really doesn't even really feel like foreshadowing. The way it was presented, it really could've been almost anything.

More importantly, even if it was properly foreshadowed, that still wouldn't make it a good twist. This time traveling, fuck it, to avoid future possible arguments over semantics, I'm just going to call it Time-Transcending (TT) from now on, this Time-Transcending throws all of the story into chaos to the point where absolutely nothing makes sense, and in a series that prides itself on being "realistic", that's a really bad thing.
 
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