Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[meinhausinneuberlin]

Benzos is the shit that a lot of boomers get hooked on. Doctors prescribe it without a second thought when someone is going through a mild depression. Before you count to three you are addicted and need to check your ass into a hospital to have a chance to de-tox. You will see the sweetest of old ladies be hooked on that shit hardcore. Benzos have their place for short term prescription in low doses, but stupid doctors will get you addicted unfortunately.

Still, it's very weird how Peterson did not act more responsible, but if he was seriously depressed, that's a good explanation of not giving a fuck about consequences.

Besides the fact that he has the ability to prescribe this shit and he should know what it does. Like the fact he acted this retarded makes me wonder if there are any patients who got the salty end of his irresponsible prescription habits.



Here is a whole bunch of people getting mad that people question why Peterson was on the meds. I had a good time finding these so many people going how could you not understand Peterson is just going through tough stuff even though that's not an excuse peterson would accept. Some of these are better than others and a bunch of these are taken from replies to stefan molymemes twitter which is why some of them say stefan. I'm having an excellent time having wash your penis clean your room man be exposed as a hypocrite and his fans rush to his defense trying to say that everything is fine and won't you stop being so harsh on the guy.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Still, it's very weird how Peterson did not act more responsible, but if he was seriously depressed, that's a good explanation of not giving a fuck about consequences.

Sometimes just functioning is more important than anything else. I've been there - I could either be taking the drugs and still quasi-useful to my family, or else a completely useless wreck right when they had no capacity to adsorb more shit. Doctor didn't tell me how addictive the pills were, I was prescribed them "as needed", and getting off them was a stone cold bitch. But, in context? I'd do it again.

 

[DtoDab]

What I mean is, I don't say Peterson is not responsible for his own state, he obviously is, it's just that to want the guy to fight depression without any meds, get full control over his emotional stability and still take care of his family while dealing with his wife dying slowly is a lot to ask out of anyone really, nigga would have to be like a mental health superhero, which absolutely don't exist in real life.

I don't know what exceptional shit I'd do myself if I were in his place, I'd probably do something much more stupider than he did, that's why I say I can't judge.

Sometimes the only options left are really shitty options.

 

[break these cuffs]

Did you miss the whole Oxcontin thing? They said that shit was safe.
When Xanax first came out its producers lied out their ass about its ramifications. Real talk, the people who marketed Xanax told the FDA that it cures anxiety disorders. Read the Ashton manual. These drugs were introduced to the market under a cloud of falsehoods.

I should have said "should tell you". It's clearly obvious people are going to abuse narcotics and medication and there is no way they should be told to take them at will. That being said the people who pushed Oxy are all narcos and should get the Escobar treatment.

 

[queerape]

Huh. I was on Klonopin for something like a year and a half and I don't remember any major crash in getting off of it. I also don't remember any major benefit from taking it either, so maybe I was just insensitive to it the whole time.

Discontinuation syndromes are worse for some people than others, and yes, some people are more or less responsive to benzos. Benzos are somewhat prone to having a lot of variability in response because there are a lot of variations at the site on GABA receptors where they act.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I hate to break this to you, but addiction and vice like this one are the unavoidable byproduct of the chemical glue holding together more people at every level of society than you might expect. SO MANY people are on shit, it keeps the machine running. Like how you maybe took a bunch of adderall to cope with exams. Or maybe someone else drinks to get thru the pain of swinging a hammer all day. That sort of shit happens, a lot.

People resorting to narcotics to help them get through life is not new; it's been a thing arguably for as long as human civilization has existed. Getting rid of them doesn't necessarily improve things either, it just causes people to seek out alternative ways of distracting themselves from their existential pain: like religion, fandoms, and hobby-horse political activism, for example.

I don't really buy the idea that Peterson's current troubles are indicative of any widespread societal problem, any more than I buy Peterson's own implication that his followers turn to him to address any such thing. I think the sort of people who listen to Peterson have always existed. The only difference is that now, thanks to the internet, they can converse with one another, appoint thought-leaders like Peterson, and collectively misdiagnose their own personal issues as being the result of some major societal dysfunction.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

I don't really buy the idea that Peterson's current troubles are indicative of any widespread societal problem, any more than I buy Peterson's own implication that his followers turn to him to address any such thing. I think the sort of people who listen to Peterson have always existed. The only difference is that now, thanks to the internet, they can converse with one another, appoint thought-leaders like Peterson, and collectively misdiagnose their own personal issues as being the result of some major societal dysfunction.

Peterson's stuff is just self-help bullshit at heart.

 

[cecograph]

Peterson was always on the edge mental, as folk were pointing out when he was routinely crying in youtube videos talking about Pinocchio. Lots of people have spouses who get cancer. That's par for the course in getting old. And most people deal with it with quiet dignity. Peterson deals with it more dramatically, because that's why he has a thread here. He writes books on rules for life, which are presumably addressed to himself, because he doesn't ever seem to have his shit together.

 

[Archeopthryx]

Jordan Peterson needed a Jordan Peterson to lobster him outta that funk. It's no joke. Depression is a hella thing and what do you do when that monster is at your door? You don't ignore it until it goes away. It never goes away. No way bucko. What you need is to pick yourself up and look that monster in the eye and grab it by the nuts.

 

[Dimetrodon]

Maybe he'll sink low enough to finally make up his mind on whether he's a Christian or not.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

I don't really buy the idea that Peterson's current troubles are indicative of any widespread societal problem, any more than I buy Peterson's own implication that his followers turn to him to address any such thing. I think the sort of people who listen to Peterson have always existed. The only difference is that now, thanks to the internet, they can converse with one another, appoint thought-leaders like Peterson, and collectively misdiagnose their own personal issues as being the result of some major societal dysfunction.

Had Jordan Peterson had a cult surround him earlier, the ye Olden CWCkiForums may have had this very thread in the short-lived Blue Pill subforum. It was for people like this, see also: Wizards, Incels, Loveshies, that kind of thing.

 

[Pomniman]

What I mean is, I don't say Peterson is not responsible for his own state, he obviously is, it's just that to want the guy to fight depression without any meds, get full control over his emotional stability and still take care of his family while dealing with his wife dying slowly is a lot to ask out of anyone really, nigga would have to be like a mental health superhero, which absolutely don't exist in real life.

I don't know what exceptional shit I'd do myself if I were in his place, I'd probably do something much more stupider than he did, that's why I say I can't judge.

Sometimes the only options left are really shitty options.

I'm not judging him specifically, but it doesn't take a "superhero" to deal with grief while still having responsibilities. Commonly accepted modern notions about mental health have largely pussified the developed world in the sense that hardship and suffering are seen as things that require superhuman effort to live with. It's not easy or fun by any means, but the idea that it's not humanly possible at all without heavy medication is pure decadence.

 

[Jack Awful]

I hope him and his wife get better soon.
No one deserves to go through this kind of shit.

 

[Angry New Ager]

Besides the fact that he has the ability to prescribe this shit and he should know what it does. Like the fact he acted this exceptional makes me wonder if there are any patients who got the salty end of his irresponsible prescription habits.

Peterson doesn't have the ability to prescribe anything, because he's a psychologist (PhD), not a psychiatrist (MD).

There are a few states here in Burgerlandia where a psychologist is allowed to write prescriptions, but in Canuckistan you still have to be an actual medical doctor--which Peterson is not--to do so.

So despite the fact that Peterson's an incredibly high-strung and emotionally volatile weirdo even at the best of times, nobody's got the salty end of his "irresponsible prescription habits" because by law he has no prescription habits in the first place.

I know you've got a hateboner for Peterson--one so hard and throbbing it compels you to seek out sympathetic comments from his admirers, post them here, and mock them in all their reasonableness--but at least get your facts straight.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

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he's a psychologist, dude

Also, let me predict it now, this is basically the end of Peterson as a public figure.

 

[naught]

Imagine the guy lecturing everybody about shit doesn't have his shit in order. And he specifically made the point that if you don't have your shit in order you shouldn't be telling people how to fix their shit. I think this guy is a case of not really being different from every other public intellectual and saying the things he does because of the attention he gets from doing so. And when it comes down to it he really isn't any different from anyone else. Can't wait for all of his fans to go ITS NOT HIS FAULT. I'll have a good laugh when that happens.

This is what I expected to be honest. Either this or he'd be outed as some pervert.

LOL, Clonazepam is some pretty serious shit. That stuff is supposed to only be taken on an "as needed" basis.
Good luck to him.

I wonder if they'll have to force him to make his own bed there.

Doctor's and therapists are known to be pill heads. That aside I enjoy the thought of an attendee going to tell Peterson to clean his stuff.

 

[Moist Unguentine]

Also, let me predict it now, this is basically the end of Peterson as a public figure.

Doubt it. Limbaugh is still around after the same predictions were made about him getting hooked on Oxyberries.

JBP aside, fuck Klonopin. That shit's the worst.

It's "better" than short half-life benzos like Ativan (Lorazepam). People end up in the hospital with bad withdrawal seizures if they run out of it or suddenly stop taking any short half-life benzo. I know a pharmacist who got badly hooked on Ativan. During rehab, she reported that she had finally started "seeing in color again".

Benzos are mind benders. Some people need them to function at all which is good, but there are consequences.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

he's a psychologist, dude

So fucking what? He should have known better? Maybe he should. But he's human. He was going through one of the shittier and more stressful things a person can go through, a doctor who he theoretically should have been able to trust prescribed him a drug, probably/maybe they both thought he could handle it, but he couldn't.

Big deal. It happens to people literally every day. It's a human failing. Psychologists are still human.

Also, let me predict it now, this is basically the end of Peterson as a public figure.

I highly doubt it. The people who are cackling gleefully over this already hated him, his fans are just going to be sympathetic because of his wife, and most of the rest of us who neither love the man nor hate him are just sitting back and wondering what the BFD is.

 

[Rekkington]

Peterson was always on the edge mental, as folk were pointing out when he was routinely crying in youtube videos talking about Pinocchio. Lots of people have spouses who get cancer. That's par for the course in getting old. And most people deal with it with quiet dignity. Peterson deals with it more dramatically, because that's why he has a thread here. He writes books on rules for life, which are presumably addressed to himself, because he doesn't ever seem to have his shit together.

As far as I know he mentioned it like two times, and went to rehab for anxiety medication without a press release or any sort of announcement it was just reporters following him.
Where is this story coming from that he doesn't have his shit together? A clinical psychologist going to other psychologists for help is par for the course, every therapist or psychologist does it. People for some reason wanna treat this like Artie Lange or some shit when in reality he's like every psychologist who seeks professional consultation if he has more than one bad dream in a row.

This is one of those weird threads where everyone is just hoping for him to crash and burn for some weird personal reasons as opposed to laughing at someone who makes a fool of themselves.
A HA, he has a messy room in one of his streams, I hope this fucking degenerate con artist self destructs! This is just like Laura Loomer!

 

[Cardboard Box Mountain]

Too boring to be a lolcow.