Debate Alt-Right Retards

You were talking in terms of "All people not of our own are not people at all" a moment ago. Odd, but that quote you copypasted from some website obviously says nothing of the sort- merely a greater love for one's own people. How very odd.
Saying that your people, and your people alone, are the source of all human civilization and culture, and if all else were to be the same save that your race was not there would be no civilization at all is saying, by implication, that all other races are incapable of culture or civilization, making them beneath human.
Deliberate, cartoonish obtuseness does no merit to you.
As for "some website": it was from Hitler's own work. Peruse for yourself; the paragraph begins on the bottom of page 316. And before you vicariously accuse the source of being Jewish propaganda: the source is a site devoted to archiving the writings and work of WWI veterans, and Mein Kampf is included as part of an analysis of how WWII's beginnings were inextricably linked with WWI and how Hitler's experiences in WWI influenced his ideology.
 
Okay, so you deny the Holocaust blah blah
jews had attempted a communist revolution in Germany and to assume control over the German populace, costing the Germans WWI and many German lives - jews were then recognised as a rootless, international other and earned the animus of central Europeans (and everywhere else they've ever been) for a reason

up until the war they were made to leave with their wealth intact, during the war the subversives were put into labour camps so they'd contribute to the war effort instead being left alone to forment dissent - still, 100s of thousands of German jews weren't recognised as subversives and instead served in the Wehrmacht in the spirit of patriotism

dirty ghetto jews and gypsies were made to wash themselves, were deloused and treated for typhus, were given medical care and do manual labour, that's the true horror of the "holocaust"
When you establish a country outside of your ancestral homeland, import a labor force of a different ethnic group
Africans migrated willingly and fought wars among themselves over getting access to the Dutch who had settled there

the apartheid solution was a blessing for the negroids and ultimately the undoing of the native Dutch, it's more than what Afrikaaners should have extended them if they had had any foresight
I think racial segregation is a backwards ideology, but the latter at least has a rationale that doesn't smack of sheer thuggery.
well, you would, because you promote weakness and the self-destruction of huwhites and for the interests of the other, because you've internalised what is the modern orthodoxy, which is that white people are illegitimate and should be opposed if they're not willing to cede control and go quietly into the sunset
To be clear, the actions of the Chinese government along the same line to the Uyghur and the actions against the Afrikaaner people currently by the government of South Africa are equally reprehensible in my eyes.
nice, you get the dopamine of delegitimising huwhites *and*, by your estimation, being coherent in your framework when doing it
Mein Kampf and the Nazi ideology explicitly states that the races exist in a hierarchy of superior and inferior kinds, with the Aryan (a term synonymous with "German" in Nazi ideology) as the highest.
"so some people had a moralising ideology for their people, it's an outrage"

not to belittle the great uncle, but his writing is just a lot of common sense about uplifting your own mixed with what was known and is still true about eugenics and putting the best qualities of his people on a pedestal as a way of promoting those qualities vs a demoralising narrative ie white people bad, all the good you ever do is in service of another and even then it's not enough
 
jews had attempted a communist revolution in Germany and to assume control over the German populace, costing the Germans WWI and many German lives - jews were then recognised as a rootless, international other and earned the animus of central Europeans (and everywhere else they've ever been) for a reason

up until the war they were made to leave with their wealth intact, during the war the subversives were put into labour camps so they'd contribute to the war effort instead being left alone to forment dissent - still, 100s of thousands of German jews weren't recognised as subversives and instead served in the Wehrmacht in the spirit of patriotism

dirty ghetto jews and gypsies were made to wash themselves, were deloused and treated for typhus, were given medical care and do manual labour, that's the true horror of the "holocaust"

Africans migrated willingly and fought wars among themselves over getting access to the Dutch who had settled there

the apartheid solution was a blessing for the negroids and ultimately the undoing of the native Dutch, it's more than what Afrikaaners should have extended them if they had had any foresight

well, you would, because you promote weakness and the self-destruction of huwhites and for the interests of the other, because you've internalised what is the modern orthodoxy, which is that white people are illegitimate and should be opposed if they're not willing to cede control and go quietly into the sunset

nice, you get the dopamine of delegitimising huwhites *and*, by your estimation, being coherent in your framework when doing it

"so some people had a moralising ideology for their people, it's an outrage"

not to belittle the great uncle, but his writing is just a lot of common sense about uplifting your own mixed with what was known and is still true about eugenics and putting the best qualities of his people on a pedestal as a way of promoting those qualities vs a demoralising narrative ie white people bad, all the good you ever do is in service of another and even then it's not enough
My apologies, I thought you might have some common sense. I should have realized, given that you signed up yesterday and only have one post to your name that isn't a regurgitated /pol/ meme that you are an 8chan refugee. Just to advise you, accusing all of your interlocutors of hating white people and spouting talking points that were stale and outdated 30 years ago is going to earn you the title of "resident twit". You already sound like a slightly more coherent alt of one of the more prominent cows on the site, so I'd advise reeling in your powerlevel, or your stay will be less than enjoyable.
 
You were talking in terms of "All people not of our own are not people at all" a moment ago. Odd, but that quote you copypasted from some website obviously says nothing of the sort- merely a greater love for one's own people. How very odd.
Japanese are People too.

it's simple segregation, I'm more appalled at the implication that whites have no right to separate themselves from racial others and keep their own spaces for themselves, that it's an act of "supremacy" (read: wrong moral bad bad invalid) to not mix it up
No, It was just the natural thing to do, Superior humans ruling over a wast amount of subhumans to the benefit of everybody involved.

I don't believe for a moment that you've read Mein Kampf,
English translation bad! also the book is pretty stupid.



When you establish a country outside of your ancestral homeland, import a labor force of a different ethnic group, and then deny that ethnic group freedom of movement, residence, employment, or the vote, deliberately refuse to allow them to consume spirits, ban both races from any romantic relations across racial lines, and shoot those who protest not being given representation in what is nominally "their" government, that is very different from restricting immigration in land which was ancestrally "yours". I think racial segregation is a backwards ideology, but the latter at least has a rationale that doesn't smack of sheer thuggery.
There are 100.000 Native South africans, they never cared about anything, they are on the level of stoneage people and roam the wilds.

you make the mistake to believe in propaganda. the huge Majority of black south africans came way after the dutch started their colonies there.


The Natives have it far worse now, the zulu hunt them for sport.

South africa is the best example why immigration doesnt work.


Mein Kampf and the Nazi ideology explicitly states that the races exist in a hierarchy of superior and inferior kinds, with the Aryan (a term synonymous with "German" in Nazi ideology) as the highest.
thats the logical conclusion if you believe in race as a concept...
 
A "greater love" for one's own people... by exterminating other races because they aren't Hilter's vision of the master race? Perhaps you should read up the Nazi's stance on Arabs during World War II.
"You should be prevented from exorcising your biological preference for your own people because muh 6 million."
Epic argument, I've never heard that one before.
 
My apologies, I thought you might have some common sense. I should have realized, given that you signed up yesterday and only have one post to your name that isn't a regurgitated /pol/ meme that you are an 8chan refugee. Just to advise you, accusing all of your interlocutors of hating white people and spouting talking points that were stale and outdated 30 years ago is going to earn you the title of "resident twit". You already sound like a slightly more coherent alt of one of the more prominent cows on the site, so I'd advise reeling in your powerlevel, or your stay will be less than enjoyable.
awkward 😬

but I understand, ultimately this stuff is non-negotiable and boils down to racial will to power - mine hinges on uplifting huwhite people and undoing the demoralisation, yours hinges on dismantling them and perpetuating the mental levers serving as shortcuts to guilt huwhites to do the bidding of racial others, which I think you're not used to coming face to face with and why you spazzed out right now

"my apologies" lmao
 
After reading this thread a bit, I've realized we're arguing against centrist libertarians (This site is a circle jerk for that way of thinking). The best way to prove that conservatism is dead is not to discuss how orange retard has failed white Americans (which he has, do not vote for orange faggot under any circumstances), but rather to prove that Capitalism is inherently a malicious force that will lead to our doom.
 
Proving once again that fascists are just commies that don't like jews. I mean, even more than other communists didn't like jews.

"B-but a lot of influential early members of the communist party were jewish and it's popular among American Jewish Academia!" No shit. Doesn't stop them from getting pogrommed when their name is drawn from the hat.
 
Proving once again that fascists are just commies that don't like jews. I mean, even more than other communists didn't like jews.

"B-but a lot of influential early members of the communist party were jewish and it's popular among American Jewish Academia!" No shit. Doesn't stop them from getting pogrommed when their name is drawn from the hat.
sort of true, but ass backwards

Russia, in essence, put jewish international communism on the backburner and adopted national socialism with soviet trappings in an effort to muster its populace to resist national socialist Germany, after which there was no putting it back on track as it was; and the natives remembered, jews were resented for their cruelty, their tyranny and the genocide they had inflicted on the populace to get them under control, making the jews flee to the US (where they too pushed marxism in the early days, but ultimately rebranded themselves as neocons)

what followed was a half-century of the shattered pre-bolshevik, pre-judaic Russian nationalism recoalescing and ultimately reasserting itself with the fall of USSR - and jews resent the Russians to this day (all slavs tbh, maybe Poles the most)

you omit that the jewish revolutionaries were tasked and funded by US banking jews to overthrow the tsar and later aided by the likes of Olof Aschberg, a Swedish banking jew, who laundered the gold bolsheviks had looted, helping the them evade an international boycott
 
You mean the economic system that has given us a living standard so good that everyone else wants to move here?
No, the economic system that reduces everyone into an economic unit, where our labor is exploited to fuel the decadent and degenerate lifestyles of a ruling class that hates the people that feed them. They want us turned into effeminate and obedient consumers, working in cages, living in pods, and eating bugs. They want to turn women into men, so they too can fuel the system, increasing efficiency by 100%. They want to replace the native stock of a nation with foreign laborers; not just because they're cheap, not just because they're loyal to the gibs, but also because the loss of a homeland disenfranchises the native stock, leaving us too nihilistic to fight back against our own destruction.

It is from the bourgeoisie that our rights to arm ourselves are restricted; it is from the bourgeoisie that woke culture is forced onto decent folk; it is from the bourgeoisie that ideas like white sovereignty and autonomy are considered evil and "backwards."
 
1. Alt-right conceptually meant "American conservative without religious baggage" for maybe a week. When the idea had staying power, it was slandered as being purely white nationalist by people like Clinton and immediately aborted before it had a chance to grow. I don't think anyone uses any umbrella term anymore because any named organization just gets called pedophile terrorists now.

So: Alt Right (before that point) was originally a bunch of Edgy Teen Enoch Powell Larpers. They got into the above stuff as a marketing bush in 07/08 or so. But thats kind of been abandoned around 2017
 
Oh. Communism?
Ignoring the fact that you read only the first sentence of my post,

Under capitalism, you are a wagey. You are a commodity to be bought and sold like a slave. Communism guarantees hard-working folk a job, it guarantees people purpose outside of the hyper-reality simulations manufactured by Hollywood.

I used to be a retarded libertarian who hated communism, because it was often packaged with gender-blob and anti-white nonsense. But as I got older, I realized that Capitalism was actually the producer of that nonsense; that these so-called "communists" were really just alpha consumers who wanted free college. I realized that I could have economic liberation and be among my people at the same time. You need to realize that the fight between conservatism and social-liberalism is a false dialectic meant to control the population and their beliefs.
 
So: Alt Right (before that point) was originally a bunch of Edgy Teen Enoch Powell Larpers. They got into the above stuff as a marketing bush in 07/08 or so. But thats kind of been abandoned around 2017
I had never heard of Richard Spencer or his 'movement' prior. I don't know how it spread during 2016 but I think the connection to him was coincidental. No one talking about being a member of the alternative right at the time was a white nationalist. All people have ever wanted is personal liberty, cultural identity, and a predictable government that prioritized national interests.
 
I had never heard of Richard Spencer or his 'movement' prior. I don't know how it spread during 2016 but I think the connection to him was coincidental. No one talking about being a member of the alternative right at the time was a white nationalist. All people have ever wanted is personal liberty, cultural identity, and a predictable government.

Basically the more Sane Branding came from the Alt-Right edgy boys [Spencer wasnt even the first of the early edgy boys either] who learned to sound less insane and went to work for Rand and Ron Paul
 
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