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Jesus this pasty looking fuck and his twin-husband make my skin crawl.
Hate to spoil their halloween costumes in advance, but:
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I don't think I'll ever understand Lemonhead's logic. All these recent requests he's made don't make a lot of sense. KV says there's no case... and no lawyer on the planet would see an inkling of a case here. So, it seems utterly useless to gather any more evidence here. KV defending this is stupid as well. There is no need for the defendants to try to refute the appeal with evidence. But I don't know how appeals work. Is this even normal?

I can only conclude that they are indeed trying to intimidate and silence Chris, much like they attempted to do so with Nick. It didn't work the first time, and I doubt it will work now... but it does look like they are trying to send a message to Vic's supporters and scare them out of sharing information with Vic's legal team. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the next filing would be a notice to depose Vic's mom. The defendants are truly disgusting.

In regards to this new convention that KV is trying to convince everyone is a "scam"... I can agree that the website is very amateur. But we can't write it off because of that. They might not have an appropriate person or team to design and code their website. The prices aren't that strange. $40 for a one day pass is relatively normal. $70 for 2 days may seem like a lot, but it's like paying $35 a day... Which is normal. The $500 dollar pass is similar to special access passes you can get at other cons. I think Anime Expo has one for $475... Which isn't too far off. Maybe they could tweak their prices, but it's too early to tell. They might get a ton of guests and have a lot to do that would make it worth it. Also, the amount of sponsors they get might affect their prices as well. Being new, the consumers might have to put in a little more to support it.
His logic is: if you don't have the evidence to prove your case, just fake like you do, and hope the judge goes along with it.

Sadly, this has been working pretty well for him so far.

(It's just too bad for MoRon that appeals seem likely to slap away his slam dunk. Hope he doesn't plan to get PAID for this crap. If only they had a WARCHEST.)
 
Y'know, I seriously wonder what it is about Brian Thompson that makes him such an obsessed freak about a fat middle-aged white woman. I mean...does he not have women of his own?

Maybe he needs a little dose of reality. Get MBA to do a walk-by of his place.
Because he's an ugly little manlet who got pushed around by Tyrone and Jamal growing up and chose to be a male feminist white knight in hopes of finally losing his virginity instead of being an incel.
 
Oh is Shane feeling useful again? Or is he still dropping texts thinking he has a gotcha when in reality he's been fed shit for the sole purpose of seeing what his intentions were.

On another note I'll tell you right now. People thinking that Slatosch is Anti-Vic or pro-Vic are dead wrong. He's pro-self. There's no reason for an individual who runs a brand to be pro anything other than himself and his brand.

They know giving Slatosch a floor to speak on won't do any good for them, but it's also because he's Vic's arguably only legitimate source they have to attack and spin like a motherfucker.

If they can soften the blow that Slatoschs' affidavit would have been and still risk Slatosch touching up on his argument by being able to VOICE it with context then I feel bad for Vic's case. There's no way they'd openly depose him unless they were confident in being able to spin the affidavit or things mentioned in the affidavit. Either that or attacking Slatosch is literally they're best and only bet at surviving an appeal.

I'm no lawyer and I'm likely stupid as fuck but how Slatosch answers questions will hopefully remind us that 1) he's not KV 2) he's not ISWV and 3) just how much riding on one convention contract to argue for all of these claims (when there were more contracts that could have been gotte) could be a problem. We'll see.

Somewhat related events.
KV's brigade against Slatosch and Kamehacon failed on the social media front on Twitter.
No direct response since being called out by the actual costume maker.
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This is what happened when he found out he was doxxed and lied his way into a corner.
Let's tag all of the people that were possibly involved with targetting Kamehacon and Slatosch and hope they bail you out.

I can't help but laugh at Armzgurl initially back-pedaling and Lying Cunt saying nothing of much value, even though it fits their narrative to attack the convention.
(Keep in mind that they have been silent about this for days after the sped showed up to do their dirty work.)
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Regarding Slatosch, it's good to remember that that one fat bitch (Jinnie, was it?) who was high up in that one con and submitted an affidavit for the case claims to be friends with him and says she's doing a panel with him on legal issues in this shit. So based on this they stand a chance of being successful at softening the blow of his affidavit if they can depose him, since he definitely wasn't thrilled by either side's actions with Kamehacon but chose the money from Vic and a bit of his time over the risk of being reamed by BHBH in a lawsuit.
 
Somewhat related events.
KV's brigade against Slatosch and Kamehacon failed on the social media front on Twitter.
No direct response since being called out by the actual costume maker.
Archive

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This is what happened when he found out he was doxxed and lied his way into a corner.
Let's tag all of the people that were possibly involved with targetting Kamehacon and Slatosch and hope they bail you out.

I can't help but laugh at Armzgurl initially back-pedaling and Lying Cunt saying nothing of much value, even though it fits their narrative to attack the convention.
(Keep in mind that they have been silent about this for days after the sped showed up to do their dirty work.)
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I'm seeing every man for themselves and leaving Ikari out to dry. So much for unity in KV, huh?
 
So from what I've gathered Vic is basically up shit creek without a paddle at this point. It seemed like a slam dunk was all but assured for him but I guess it just goes to show that one stupid judge who hasn't been paying attention can ruin everything real quick.
I wouldn't say without a paddle. Sure, his canoe hit a giant rock that was Chupp, but appeals courts exist for a reason. He has a means of recourse for what is probably a bad court decision. Will he prevail? We'll have to see.

Odds aren't bad. Lots of stuff for him to point out to the appeals court, and four of the seven appeals judges have dealt with Chupp (either reversing him on appeal or slapping him with a writ of mandamus). Odds are better than average that at least two of the three panel judges will sigh when they see another Chupp appeal.
 
Regarding Slatosch, it's good to remember that that one fat bitch (Jinnie, was it?) who was high up in that one con and submitted an affidavit for the case claims to be friends with him and says she's doing a panel with him on legal issues in this shit. So based on this they stand a chance of being successful at softening the blow of his affidavit if they can depose him, since he definitely wasn't thrilled by either side's actions with Kamehacon but chose the money from Vic and a bit of his time over the risk of being reamed by BHBH in a lawsuit.

If he was having second thoughts like Chuck Huber after the hearing, Dominique Skye fucked that up with her victim impact statement. Chris is definitely going to want to lend Lemoine a hand after she dragged his name through the mud.
 
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Oh is Shane feeling useful again? Or is he still dropping texts thinking he has a gotcha when in reality he's been fed shit for the sole purpose of seeing what his intentions were.

On another note I'll tell you right now. People thinking that Slatosch is Anti-Vic or pro-Vic are dead wrong. He's pro-self. There's no reason for an individual who runs a brand to be pro anything other than himself and his brand.

They know giving Slatosch a floor to speak on won't do any good for them, but it's also because he's Vic's arguably only legitimate source they have to attack and spin like a motherfucker.

If they can soften the blow that Slatoschs' affidavit would have been and still risk Slatosch touching up on his argument by being able to VOICE it with context then I feel bad for Vic's case. There's no way they'd openly depose him unless they were confident in being able to spin the affidavit or things mentioned in the affidavit. Either that or attacking Slatosch is literally they're best and only bet at surviving an appeal.

I'm no lawyer and I'm likely stupid as fuck but how Slatosch answers questions will hopefully remind us that 1) he's not KV 2) he's not ISWV and 3) just how much riding on one convention contract to argue for all of these claims (when there were more contracts that could have been gotte) could be a problem. We'll see.
However with these crazy fuckers made one thing is clear, there is no such thing as being neutral in this mess and people will always be dragged into it mainly by KV. Slatosch may be in it for himself but in the eyes of a lot of ISWV and KV he's in the formers camp rather he likes it or not, especially give how a lot people that are ISWV have been supportive of him while KV have been harassing him constantly.

At the end of the day I accept that Slatosch is in it for himself but being an island in this mess is not gonna do him any favors so he really should officially join ISWV or at least be an ally because trying to remain as an independant party when it's clear one side wants to bury you and another is defending you is honestly dumb shit to do. On the flipside it is messed up that Slatosch is in a group he didn't ask or was given a choice but got thrown in to that group by those crazy cunts anyway. He should have been in a position to chose instead of being forced into becoming part of ISWV unwilling.

Another thing I want to say is that I don't understand why he doesn't go in with a waraxe on these fuckers because it's clear they wouldn't stop harassing him and Kameha Con and if he does get deposed he can got a lot of ammo to go and fuck over Lemon Fürher and two other MoRonic cunts.
 
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I wouldn't say without a paddle. Sure, his canoe hit a giant rock that was Chupp, but appeals courts exist for a reason. He has a means of recourse for what is probably a bad court decision. Will he prevail? We'll have to see.

Odds aren't bad. Lots of stuff for him to point out to the appeals court, and four of the seven appeals judges have dealt with Chupp (either reversing him on appeal or slapping him with a writ of mandamus). Odds are better than average that at least two of the three panel judges will sigh when they see another Chupp appeal.
So they know about Chupp punting and kicking the can down the road? Is there a chance that this turns into a game of volleyball? Stupid not lawyer question, I’m aware.
 
So they know about Chupp punting and kicking the can down the road? Is there a chance that this turns into a game of volleyball? Stupid not lawyer question, I’m aware.
Gabriel and Sudderth were on the panel that handed down the writ of mandamus in In Re Dakota Directional Drilling (Gabriel was the one who actually wrote it), and according to @AnOminous, Kerr and Birdwell (I can't decide if that name is funny or cool) have reversed him on normal appeals.

I'd like to verify myself but I'm not sure where to look for appeals.
 

Most likely a nothing burger. Shane is a clout driven jerkoff and Dunford is carrying Lemoine's water to cover Lemoine cherry picking.

Another thing I want to say is that I don't understand why he doesn't go in with a war axe on these fuckers because it's clear they wouldn't stop harassing him and Kameha Con and if he does get deposed he can got a lot of ammo to go and fuck over Lemon Fürher and two other MoRonic cunts.

Court cases are stressful and as shown here with Chupp far from guaranteed. Slatosh could have an ironclad case for breach of contract but at the end of the day it might be years before seeing any payoff. Especially since Monica can go on Twitter crying about how she is being unfairly treated by a con owner and Sharon Grigsby would come flying in smearing KahmehaCon in a heart beat.

In the end Chris could win the war but it would be pyrrhic at best.

So they know about Chupp punting and kicking the can down the road? Is there a chance that this turns into a game of volleyball? Stupid not lawyer question, I’m aware.

They probably have an inkling of an idea. They cover so many judges and cases that Chupp appears more than the average but not enough for them to actually think Chupp is doing anything counter productive.

Chupp found a niche in the bureaucratic machine that he can dick around in and not get kicked out as long as he doesn't get too stupid.
 
Somewhat related events.
KV's brigade against Slatosch and Kamehacon failed on the social media front on Twitter.
No direct response since being called out by the actual costume maker.
Archive

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This is what happened when he found out he was doxxed and lied his way into a corner.
Let's tag all of the people that were possibly involved with targetting Kamehacon and Slatosch and hope they bail you out.

I can't help but laugh at Armzgurl initially back-pedaling and Lying Cunt saying nothing of much value, even though it fits their narrative to attack the convention.
(Keep in mind that they have been silent about this for days after the sped showed up to do their dirty work.)
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"They doxxed someone who totally isn't me but I refuse to provide any evidence besides vague things to prove my point"

But also

"CLEAR AND SPECIFIC EVIDENCE"
 
Somewhat related events.
KV's brigade against Slatosch and Kamehacon failed on the social media front on Twitter.
No direct response since being called out by the actual costume maker.
Archive

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This is what happened when he found out he was doxxed and lied his way into a corner.
Let's tag all of the people that were possibly involved with targetting Kamehacon and Slatosch and hope they bail you out.

I can't help but laugh at Armzgurl initially back-pedaling and Lying Cunt saying nothing of much value, even though it fits their narrative to attack the convention.
(Keep in mind that they have been silent about this for days after the sped showed up to do their dirty work.)
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This is what he said almost in EXACT WORDS last time the got caught under a sock account. However, if you push him about it he will freak out at a nuclear explosion level.
 
So from what I've gathered Vic is basically up shit creek without a paddle at this point. It seemed like a slam dunk was all but assured for him but I guess it just goes to show that one stupid judge who hasn't been paying attention can ruin everything real quick.
I think it's 50 % because of a stupid judge and 50 % because of Ty dropping the ball pretty hard more than once. His TCPA filing was a mess and the notarization issue was plain dumb and avoidable. His behavior during the hearing seemed to have been less than impressive. Also still think Ty let opposing counsel act like shitheads without ever really paying them back in kind.

I mean, I never really get the rules for TCPA, saw people from both sides say he was ill prepared and that, for example, he needed contracts and affidavits from conventions, but I also saw people saying all of chupp's demands were way too much.

Either way. I don't know about Ty anymore. At least Vic apparently hired a lawyer specialising in appeals, but I haven't heard much from him. Seems Ty is still the one at the forefront here.
 
I think it's 50 % because of a stupid judge and 50 % because of Ty dropping the ball pretty hard more than once. His TCPA filing was a mess and the notarization issue was plain dumb and avoidable. His behavior during the hearing seemed to have been less than impressive. Also still think Ty let opposing counsel act like shitheads without ever really paying them back in kind.

I mean, I never really get the rules for TCPA, saw people from both sides say he was ill prepared and that, for example, he needed contracts and affidavits from conventions, but I also saw people saying all of chupp's demands were way too much.

Either way. I don't know about Ty anymore. At least Vic apparently hired a lawyer specialising in appeals, but I haven't heard much from him. Seems Ty is still the one at the forefront here.

Nick addressed this in his stream.

Chupp accepted a binder of evidence from MoRonica's team. He REFUSED to accept Ty's binder and wouldn't look at any evidence Ty presented (which is called heavy bias). Ty went in for a prima facie case and Chupp wanted to do an evidentiary hearing.

If a judge is refusing to look at both sides and is only taking a binder from one side to use as evidence - not only did he do this ass-backward, but he did the exact opposite of a TCPA hearing. The Plaintiff is supposed to be viewed most favorably.
 
Somewhat related events.
KV's brigade against Slatosch and Kamehacon failed on the social media front on Twitter.
No direct response since being called out by the actual costume maker.
Archive

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This is what happened when he found out he was doxxed and lied his way into a corner.
Let's tag all of the people that were possibly involved with targetting Kamehacon and Slatosch and hope they bail you out.

I can't help but laugh at Armzgurl initially back-pedaling and Lying Cunt saying nothing of much value, even though it fits their narrative to attack the convention.
(Keep in mind that they have been silent about this for days after the sped showed up to do their dirty work.)
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Did Lynn Hunt actually just say "these jagoffs care more about feeding frenzy and gotchas than getting the right reason"? Wow. Just...wow.
 
Nick addressed this in his stream.

Chupp accepted a binder of evidence from MoRonica's team. He REFUSED to accept Ty's binder and wouldn't look at any evidence Ty presented (which is called heavy bias). Ty went in for a prima facie case and Chupp wanted to do an evidentiary hearing.

If a judge is refusing to look at both sides and is only taking a binder from one side to use as evidence - not only did he do this ass-backward, but he did the exact opposite of a TCPA hearing. The Plaintiff is supposed to be viewed most favorably.
Yeah, I feel like it's not fair too blame Ty too much. We have to remember that under all those credentials is a single man trying to fight what now seems to be an unwinnable battle for what appears to be an innocent man up against a stacked deck. Could he have done a better job? I'm sure, but compared to his opposition he looks like a genius.
 
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