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Chuck's trying way too hard to be optimistic. He should be more like Stan Dahlin rather than be this weird fence sitter. We all know the sacred ointment club is gonna shank you the moment they sell the YYH dub OVA, so might as well be passive aggressively making fun of Sabat and his fat hoes.
He said in his affidavit he expected retaliation for exposing Okatron 5000 as a frat house. I think he knows he’s done.
 
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So he's just blindly smiling waiting for Sabat's fat Weinstein ass to drop the guillotine?
I wouldn’t say that. I’m just saying that he’s trying to fix the rotten state in his own way. And he genuinely feels he can’t take either side because reasons. And he’s woefully underestimated the hills some are willing to die on.
 
So I'm guessing either
A. Slathosh showed up and that's why we haven't heard anything yet
Or
B. He didn't and lemonhead is planning to spin this story right now

If he showed up they would've paraded like they won the playoffs.

I bet Slatosch lawyered up officially and they know they're stuck.
 
Nick is on the Killstream and he said that there may be some fireworks next week, but didn't want to overhype it.
Do we wanna take bets on what it could be? Maybe something funny got leaked again, or maybe something legal happened and it will resulting in reeing once public?

God, I hope nick doesnt blueball us
 
Do we wanna take bets on what it could be? Maybe something funny got leaked again, or maybe something legal happened and it will resulting in reeing once public?

God, I hope nick doesnt blueball us

Well, fireworks are different than dunks. So let's see what happens. 5 kiwi bucks says Chupp is tired of Lemonsperg's shit.
 
Since I know he lurks on here, I will ask: George Bush "Shock and Awe" fireworks or Death Korps "Siege of Vraks" fireworks?
 
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RE: Chuck Huber's stance/behavior/moral high-ground/etc.

Looking at this situation more (not purely) objectively, you most likely hold one of the following opinions:

1. Vic is a sexual predator and has gotten away with it for 2-3 decades and is now using the support of his loyal fans to sue his apparent victims into the ground (who probably aren't as wealthy as he is, anyway).
OR
2. Vic is innocent of all the criminal accusations thrown his way. Even if you think he's a scumbag for banging/attempting to bang women half his age and/or cheating on his fiance, nothing he has done warranted his total deletion from an industry his has worked in for 20 years and being dragged by colleagues he once considered friends.

I guess there's more of a "neutral" stance, 3. Vic has perhaps crossed personal boundaries, but nothing that would be criminal or even predatory - maybe inconsiderate, but there should have been a warning/discussion about it, instead of his very public shame-firing and destruction.

The first two, at least, inflame a lot of frustration and anger in the people watching. Add in Jamie, Monica, and Ron (with a dash of Sabat, Schemmel, D.C. Dickless, FUNi, et al) attacking, insulting, and threatening the fanbase, specifically anyone who supports Vic or even questions their narrative. Though Vic has said very little publicly and has NOT attacked anyone, he did ask people to correct misinformation and filed a lawsuit. Which was taken as a declaration of attack/war/whatever by KV.

A neutral in this instance would (logically) distance themselves from both camps, especially if he/she didn't know who they could believe and just stay completely out it.

When it comes to Chuck - there's part of me that wants to cut the dude some slack, but he needs to get his head out of the clouds. This isn't friends getting into a petty fight. Well, there's plenty of petty motivations, but this has escalated way beyond a simple conflict. One group of people are STILL trying to destroy every aspect of Vic's career and they've done it publicly. And the TEXAS CLIQUE are the ones who made it public. So, for the people who were paying attention, many of us saw a man get maliciously destroyed in three fucking weeks and for what? Because they don't have receipts for anything. Not to mention, these were people who were supposed to be Vic's friends. They can claim to want him "to get help" all they want, and that works for some people - but more see right through that bullshit. There was nothing compassionate, moral, ethical, or humane with what Monica, Jamie, Ron, Sabat, Schemmel, ect. did. If I were looking at this from KV's perspective, I'd see a "predator" that was so close to be taken out, only to weaponize a fanbase that he "groomed" as children to save his ass, again. People are going to be angry. And they're going to voice that, no matter what.

TL;DR: There isn't space in this situation for fence-sitters. Simple as that.

While I applaud Chuck for submitting his affidavit (why I want to cut the dude some slack), his behavior is so fucking off. Berating Vic during the TCPA hearing comes off as completely selfish/less-than-empathetic, seeing as Vic is fighting to repair a reputation absolutely shredded by his supposed friends. Trying to get Vic to say he was a sex addict when he wasn't, after he'd been thoroughly, publicly humiliated already is just scummy. If this is his version of helping out, maybe he's best to sit on the sidelines.
 
Do we wanna take bets on what it could be? Maybe something funny got leaked again, or maybe something legal happened and it will resulting in reeing once public?

God, I hope nick doesnt blueball us
My bet is Nick's gonna say nigger live on stream
My second bet is Vic's going scorched earth and he will be the one to say nigger live on stream

I'm betting all of my Kiwi bucks, Sonichu necklaces, and my most prized possession a shell casing of a bullet used in the Christchurch shooting
 
Pretty big imagedump under the spoiler. Chuck went on a tirade that's still ongoing about "both sides", forgiveness, healing the community etc. He's been answering to a bunch of people, I couldn't even archive it all, would have taken ages, but I caught some of it. It doesn't necessarily make him look bad, but pretty removed from reality. Don't think he'd be saying these things if he were in Vic's shoes right now. Someone suggested Chuck made a backroom deal with MoRon based on his words, but I don't think so.



The archive site kept dying every two minutes, so, that's cool.

What really grinds my gears is that there was a person that told Chuck (if I remember correctly) that they were horriffically abused as a child and suffered brain damage from it and that was why they couldn't forgive Marchi and Monica for falsely claiming to be victims. Chuck, and that genuinely angered me, gave his typical: "You have to forgive." response, but he worded it in such a disingenious way. I saw this yesterday but did NOT archive it immediately. I didn't even screenshot it, for fucks sake. Now I can neither find the tweets by that person nor Chuck's tweets. I remembered what the person said, but only quickly glanced over Chuck's response, so now I can't precisely say what he said, only that it was enraging. Sorry for fucking up. Sucks that there's no evidence now.

I wish he wouldn't sip that fake kool-aid. There is no 'anime community'. You can't define the bounds of the community, what qualifies as a part of it, or where that ends or begins. The majority of the people who watch anime have no idea about this drama, or if they do likely have little to no opinion about it at all. What community is broken? Specifically the community that watches Funimation dubs in America and some of Europe? Why does that community matter at all? Funimation clearly doesn't care about it, so why should anyone else? Why should anyone want to 'heal the community'? This has nothing to do with the community. This has to do with one man being falsely accused and defamed by a group of other people, and a bunch of conworkers being bullied by a company + those people into helping destroy him. And as a further addendum, the 'damage' done wasn't done by people getting into fights over which VA they support, it was done by Funimation and the VAs attacking another man in public.

This isn't Marvel's Civil War. It's not about picking a side and getting in slap fights, and there's no "peace" to make, nor "healing" to be made, because ultimately where 'the community' sides or how it splits has no impact whatsoever on whether or not Rial, Marchi, Toye, and Funimation are telling the truth, nor whether they broke the law and forced Vic out of roles because they personally disliked him. (the 'community' does have an important impact on things, but it can't change what Vic is suing over. You can't 'win the case' for Vic or for the defendants because you beat someone in a social media argument, and you can't heal a rift that has nothing to do with you. Chuck.)
 
Nick made mention of the fact that only Lemwaaah is acting retarded, whereas Johnson, Volney, etc, haven't made a peep. Nick is teasing that something next week, involving Lemwaaah's legal spaghetti, should be interesting.

Also, the paper-only submission hearings needs both parties in agreement... and one party is saying fuck no.
 
This isn't Marvel's Civil War. It's not about picking a side and getting in slap fights, and there's no "peace" to make, nor "healing" to be made, because ultimately where 'the community' sides or how it splits has no impact whatsoever on whether or not Rial, Marchi, Toye, and Funimation are telling the truth, nor whether they broke the law and forced Vic out of roles because they personally disliked him.

Anyone who unironically utters the cloying phrase "healing the community" should just fucking kill themselves. Fuck the community. The community is a shit.
 
All I can say is... "What in the ever blue loving fuck?"
I'm seriously curious what idiot is funding this. As stupid as KV thinks anyone giving money to Vic's GFM are, anyone who gives a dime to this shitstorm is a certifiable moron. Even if you think it's all a scam I can understand a "celebrity" bilking their fans, but who exactly is this marketed to? What idiots would pay real money for this?
Ah. The fabled ConsentCon. It's gonna be a bigger failure than Nomikai.

He said in his affidavit he expected retaliation for exposing Okatron 5000 as a frat house. I think he knows he’s done.
Yall keep saying he exposed Okratron, but it was Funimation, right? Sorry, it's been a while and I can't remember the specifics. I know Sabat's company is Okratron but it's been speculated that he has a shit load of power in Funimation. I thought the casting couch was a Funimation thing, or was it Okratron, or both?
 
My bet is Nick's gonna say nigger live on stream
My second bet is Vic's going scorched earth and he will be the one to say nigger live on stream

I'm betting all of my Kiwi bucks, Sonichu necklaces, and my most prized possession a shell casing of a bullet used in the Christchurch shooting
Wish I could give more than one "dumb" rating.
 
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