To be fair, when it comes to Chuck it's not hard to want to be upset w/ his recent behavior.
When he wasn't talking to people, he was doing fine. He dropped that bombshell, lawyered up and disappeared into the night.
We heard nothing for some time. Then we saw that Twitter was posting about his upcoming roles and upcoming aired episodes, the whole Android 18 tweet where everyone in the comments was talking about how much more of a badass he was compared to Vegeta given the situation.
And we all thought that was the end of it? Wrong. Chuck continues to be mentioned and brought up as if nothing happened. At first we all assumed it was because Funi wouldn't draw attention to Chuck because it would make everything that he said absolutely true in the public eye.
But now he's back. He's buddy buddy with everyone not even weeks after they all demeaned him. I would wager he is no longer represented by BHBH as well. Given Lemoine's behavior, it's safe to say someone from the Lawtwitter camp has reached out to Chuck. Straddling the fence but taking the fencepost up his ass, he's likely had conversations with a super lolyer. He went in one direction, Slatosch went in the polar opposite direction.
So now we're left with a huge unknown. What went down? Was he given an offer he couldn't refuse?
I don't expect Chuck to recant. He can't do that either, because if he tries to claim that he was bullied into it he'll get shot to hell because he dug his own grave in remarks to comments about Vic's behavior. The panicked, berating messages that he apparently sent can be used against him if he decided to jump ship entirely and he knows it.
The KV legal camp's ultimate goal was to get everyone to turn against Vic.
They failed with Dahlin. They failed with Slatosch. They continue to attempt to discredit anyone who supports him in a way that would help Vic's case. They berate his fans. They've failed to locate Nick's sources.
But they've found the weakest link. How weak he is has yet to be determined but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think that the Lemonparty mosquito machine hasn't made any shady attempts at getting to Chuck.
And really, all of this could be just because Chuck thinks that playing along is the only safe route. He is likely scared.
But he needs to act like a man and stand up, stand behind his word or he should have just kept his mouth shut.
Alright so, this is super late, and kinda unrelated, so I'mma put this massive nerdrant in spoilers, but I really need to respond to @AnOminous here. Also if you're wondering where SJWs come from and how Wilson can absolutely be blamed for that, it's at the end of this. Have fun?
Open at your own risk. Peak autism to be found beyond this point:
Your post has imho one mistake, and that is that you assume I'm of the opinion that the "fix" for ww2 would've been raping germany more gently. Now. That wouldn't have fixed SHIT. By the time ww1 ended, ww2 was already coming. And my core point which I will proceed to argue, is that Wilson's biggest mistake was not raping germany hard enough. So again, prepare for peak autism, but by the end of this you'll know what I mean.
The issue with thinking being gentle with germany would've fixed ww2 is simple, it ain't germany you should be worrying about. It's russia! Quite simply. Germany raped russia really fucking hardcore during ww1, because they assumed russia had the biggest power to screw them due to their massive population, so they devoted way more resources to the eastern front than they should've. And underpowered the western front as a result. Now. How would the USA fix this? Simple really, they should've joined the war ASAP. And that is exactly what Roosebelt, the prior president and Wilson's opponent, wanted. His opinion was that the USA should get in the war and make a damned point that something this horrifying should never happen. Now, a president can't go to war on his own so I'm not under the impression he could've joined from the start, but by 1915 germany had tried to push mexico into invading the US, bombed multiple US ships, persecuted practically all neutral ships, and generally been such a massive cocksucking machine that there's literally no way Roosebelt wouldn't have been able to push the scales, indeed he almost did while not being in office! But alas Wilson managed to, through some astoundingly large amount of stupid bullshit, reduce the US to sending food to the Allies instead of actually joining so he could fucking talk about his bullshit "league of nations" idea. And boy will that idea come back more in this.
So what would've been the consequences of Roosebelt pushing the US to war in 1915? Simple really, even the Kaiser, stupid and paranoid as he was, would've realized the western front was gonna rape him and leave russia alone. Which russia really needed, because 2 years later in 1917 the climate assraped them even harder and the Tzar got fucked by the subsequent revolution giving rise to the soviet union. Now, don't get me wrong, the Tzar was still likely gonna fuck it by 1917, like there's no way the SU didn't rise. BUT. It would've stayed as the february revolution, the Bolshevicks would've NEVER gotten to power, and that means the "soviet union" would've been practically unrecognizable. Let me actually explain that more:
Quite simply, russia went through not one but two revolutions between the wars, the February Revolution of 1917 and the Bolshevick revolution two years later. Yeah fun fact Lenin was no great revolutionary fighting the Tzar, he was a jumped up city rat that took advantage of russia's state. Quite simply, the original elected post-tzar government was, well, quite milquetoast actually. They just blamed all of what had gone wrong with how shitty feudalism was and while they were commies, well, they were a "Spanish Republic" kinda commies, not the Bolshevick "STALIN" kinda commies we saw later. Now, I'm a spaniard (sorry for the powerlevel) and a history nerd, and an ex-commie (I was stupid when I was a teen) so let me reassure you, that's still a powder keg of a political system and there's no way the SU would've stood for long with those guys in power, but the KIND of fuckup they were is very important here, because without the Bolshevicks they would've fallen in a slower, more localized, way more gradual and way, way, WAY less imperialistic fashion. More on that later, first, let's actually talk about how Lenin fucked everything up.
Well, it's simple really. In 1917 russia blamed feudalism for its thorough issues, but after 2 more years of german assrape, the allies basically intentionally screwing them harder and letting germany keep all their territories, and the commie's incapacity to fix the prior issues, they became convinced that they were truly and thoroughly alone, the entire world was out to get them, which BTW Wilson yet again made even worse with his stupid "league of nations" idea and how he used the ww1 peace talks to try and spread it as hard as he could which just convinced them even more than the allies had stabbed them in the back intentionally, and they knew damn well their climate wasn't getting any better any time soon. And as a result they decided they needed a government that was jingoistic enough to fuck over everyone who so much as looks the wrong way at them and that freedom ment nothing if they couldn't produce enough resources. And hey, what do you know, Lenin had JUST the thing for them! Quite simply, Bolshevick communism would've NEVER risen to power without the thorough assraping the russians got in ww1. And if the US had entered the war in 1915 as they should've, it indeed would've NEVER succeeded. Stalin would've never risen to power, the soviet union would've been a much funnier and less horrifying trashfire, and the international damage they caused would've never happened.
So let's actually go into what kinda bullshit comunism would've been without the Bolshevicks. Well, quite simply, it was a type of government based mostly on the early types of democracy exhibited by Cossacks, pirates and other small communities. And that is why it sucked, quite simply, that kinda democracy is AMAZING, for SMALL communities. Trying to put that at any lever higher than a duchy is just asking for infighting and resource issues to lead to civil war, it's just unavoidable. Seriously, we tried it here in spain, TWICE, and both times it led to the same fucking shit, everyone getting mad at each other, tribalism returning, economic infighting and a fascist government stepping up and ending it. The first time Primo de Rivera actually took control semi-peacefully because everyone realized it sucked, the second time Franco got the tanks out before delivering a "die or die" kinda speech (because he seriously wasn't considering giving anyone a chance to surrender) and well that went much worse. But that's the jist of it really. Quite simply it is a thoroughly tribalistic ideology and as such infighting is unavoidable.
So without Lenin the russians would've had at most 5 years before war started again for them. BUT, the important part here is "FOR THEM", if you ask me the ones to win that war would've probably been the Tzar sympathisers with some uppity noble using fabricated claims as their head, because indeed the kinda trashfire this type of communism leads to is EXACTLY the same shit you can see all throughout the middle ages, it's really a "CK2" kinda sucking, which is so much less sucky than a Stalin kinda sucking. So a few things should be apparent:
1) The conflict would've taken much longer, and started with county-level shenanigans, and therefore no one big war would'be swept them, so it would've both started later and ended actually probably close to the start of the 21st century for a nation THAT huge, that's if it didn't end in russia splitting forever, which is the most likely option.
2) The Bolshevicks would've absolutely lost, russians would've had enough time and enough lack of paranoia, to realize the issue was with comunism and Lenin and his ilk would've gone the way of the anarchists, they literally wouldn't have stood a chance was it not for Wilson's particular brand of stupid.
3) Without Stalin's brand of imperialism nor Lenin's brand of hyper-industrialization, quite simply, the russians would've had too many issues to deal with nationally to ever even dream of going after other nations.
4) And without Lenin, all of the leaders who either used him as a boogeyman (including Wilson, and most of the western world for that matter, like you know, Hitler and Mussolini, those guys, kinda relevant for ww2 now ain't it.) or as a prophet (*cough* asia and south america *cough*) quite simply wouldn't have had that choice. That alone is such a massive fucking issue, Lenin practically plundered the world into another dark ages with how many policies were passed to avoid an uprising like his repeating or to try and replicate it. We're talking about an event that, culturally, was way worse than ww2 here. And it happened almost entirely because Wilson was a fucking idiot that didn't get the memmo that sometimes you just gotta bomb a bitch even tho Roosebelt called it so hard that in hindsight he looks fucking PRESCIENT!
And let's indeed get into german issues now. Well, first of all, both Hitler and Mussolini heavily relied on post-Lenin paranoia for their rise to power, so at the very least they would've needed to play fair. Going into Mussolini, quite simply, italy as a whole would've remained rather neutral honestly. And as for germany... Well that's harder to predict. If the Kaiser had been inteligent enough to surrender it would've probably gotten assraped far less due to the earlier and more diplomatic end to the conflict, but as I already mentioned the germans almost embodied the concept of stupid evil during ww1, literally actively trying to piss off the USA, inventing flamethrowers, attacking any and all neutral fleets, and basically being giant weeners the likes of which we hadn't seen since the Ottomans and their brand of utter bollocks. So chances are they would've just gotten assraped even harder. Well... at the very least that would've plundered germany into cold war era much sooner, so they wouldn't have gotten the chance to start ww2 at all. Either way, even if they got uppity again, without the fear of Lenin looming over europe the Axis powers wouldn't have had any pull at all, and without Wilson's stupid ass "league of nations" speeches Hitler wouldn't have had that much of a rhetorical element to push paranoia of an "international clique", so it would've at the very least sucked much less. Seriously, Wilson's speeches caused so much political damage it's not even funny, and yet again Roosebelt repeatedly warned that the US should stay out of the peace talks alltogether and pretty much told him upfront in public letters that giving that kinda speeches would be a exceptional fucking idea that would make everything worse. I swear he was a 20th century genderbent Cassandra with all the fucking calling it and nobody listening to him.
And now that we're done explaining how Wilson fucked europe and russia up, let's get into how he fucked america over, because there's no part of government Wilson didn't suck at. Also we'll talk a bit about Asia and South America but much like he did I'm going to most ignore them.
Hey, so, quick question. How did SJWs get this bad? I'm sure you'll have 2 ideas, or more concretely, think it's a combination of both:
a) Comunist ideologues spreading shit through academia.
b) The Pendulum Theory result of the push for conservative politics in 20th century western cultuer.
And you'd be totally fucking right! That's EXACTLY how we got here. And if you thought "c) Martians from Atlantis fighting Space Jews who Ankh their sexual chakras." Go finish smoking your crack and come back when you sobered up.
And hey, what would you know, both of those issues would be heftily solved if Lenin never rose to power. So yet again, if Wilson wasn't a moron, we wouldn't be here. But if there's a lesson you should take from this thread, is that I'm not bringing Wilson up unless I can pin on him even more shit because yes, he did make it even worse. How so? Well... Ever heard of the KKK? Yeah? What about segregation? Heh, well Wilson was a Democrat, from back when they were on the south side of the civil war, and was ASTOUNDINGLY racist, like to a degree that he made Hitler himself look mellow. Indeed before him segregation wasn't even a thing in america, at least not since the civil war, hell in the north since even before that, he was the president to pass the Federal Segregation Act, which as its name implied barred black people from voting and taking office. He was also a vital figure in the rise of the KKK to prominence and very supportive of it. Which as a spaniard offends me because those hoods they decided to use are Capirotes, from Penitent suits, which as their name implies are supposed to symbolize atonement from one's own sins through self-harm in order to hope god forgives humanity as a whole, effectively taking on the burden of salvation in the name of others so if there ever was a reason to believe in "cultural appropriation" that would be it. (Not saying there is, because there's not, culture is meant to be fucking shared god damnit, that's literally the whole point! But its still incredibly fucking hipocritical.) Point is, by ww1 racial issues were actually being reduced quite heavily and it had become obvious that things were changing for the better to everyone, and then Wilson gave american non-whites ample reason to be completely fucking paranoid. Great job fucker! And that's how we got here, he literally fucked everything up.
He also fucked the international view of america up. Because as I said in my prior, he started the now infamous trend of "wilsonian imperialism" aka "nice oil you got there, it would be a pity if democracy liberated it." with multiple invasions of central and south america done with that kinda rhetoric for pure greed in the search for oild. I mean before america was still doing the "banana wars" but at least then they were open about the reason they did it, Wilson made it hipocritical, and convinced everyone that when america goes to war the reason they state for it is always bullshit, and its always for oil. Which yet again has been used by SJW ideologues for quite a while now. You might think "wait wasn't he a pacifist?" but as it should be obvious by now his "league of nations" only applied to EUROPEAN nations, everyone else in his view was better off being coloniced, and I'm saying that in the most negative of ways. Yeah, quite a chap. I swear I hate the modern left using racism as an attack but in his special case it just can't get any more blatant. Indeed, you'd get ample proof by how he treated asian nations, practically telling the japanese emperor in no uncertain terms that he would love to "bring democracy" to his country by force, which informed his decision on side to choose when ww2 started, and his treatment of the rest of asia wasn't any better, which made them realize going with Stalin might be a good idea if "democracy" was the alternative. You can see where this is going. The rise of asian comunism, the 'nam war, the asian theater in ww2. While these issues would've existed to some degree Wilson had a hefty impact in all of them, and it was for the worse in every single instance. When I said he was the worst president ever, I fucking meant it. And people think Trump fucked up. HAH! fucking hell even if we believe the american left's wet dreams Trump is still a drop in the bucket of condensated, exhacerbated, melt down, given human form and animated through black magic, solid fuckup matter than was bloody Wilson! And yet again for every one of the issues given, Roosebelt was publicly warning the bastard of how he was fucking up, why it was a stupid idea, and how it would backfire. And no one fucking listened.
So, if you take any lesson from this: If you're ever a time traveler and want to stop the trashfire that was the 20th century. Don't kill Hiter, Stalin, Lenin or Mussolini. They would all have people who would've substituted them. Just make sure Roosebelt doesn't get kicked out by the Republicans so that he can win against Wilson, and that's it, that's how you fixed the timeline. (No seriously Wilson only got the 42% of the vote, he won because after the Republicans kicked Roosebelt through some dirty fucking shit (*insert Bernie 2016 meme here.*) he made the bullmoose party and that split the vote, no one fucking wanted Wilson in power to begin with, he won because the Republicans were idiots.)
To be fair, when it comes to Chuck it's not hard to want to be upset w/ his recent behavior.
When he wasn't talking to people, he was doing fine. He dropped that bombshell, lawyered up and disappeared into the night.
We heard nothing for some time. Then we saw that Twitter was posting about his upcoming roles and upcoming aired episodes, the whole Android 18 tweet where everyone in the comments was talking about how much more of a badass he was compared to Vegeta given the situation.
And we all thought that was the end of it? Wrong. Chuck continues to be mentioned and brought up as if nothing happened. At first we all assumed it was because Funi wouldn't draw attention to Chuck because it would make everything that he said absolutely true in the public eye.
But now he's back. He's buddy buddy with everyone not even weeks after they all demeaned him. I would wager he is no longer represented by BHBH as well. Given Lemoine's behavior, it's safe to say someone from the Lawtwitter camp has reached out to Chuck. Straddling the fence but taking the fencepost up his ass, he's likely had conversations with a super lolyer. He went in one direction, Slatosch went in the polar opposite direction.
So now we're left with a huge unknown. What went down? Was he given an offer he couldn't refuse?
I don't expect Chuck to recant. He can't do that either, because if he tries to claim that he was bullied into it he'll get shot to hell because he dug his own grave in remarks to comments about Vic's behavior. The panicked, berating messages that he apparently sent can be used against him if he decided to jump ship entirely and he knows it.
The KV legal camp's ultimate goal was to get everyone to turn against Vic.
They failed with Dahlin. They failed with Slatosch. They continue to attempt to discredit anyone who supports him in a way that would help Vic's case. They berate his fans. They've failed to locate Nick's sources.
But they've found the weakest link. How weak he is has yet to be determined but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think that the Lemonparty mosquito machine hasn't made any shady attempts at getting to Chuck.
And really, all of this could be just because Chuck thinks that playing along is the only safe route. He is likely scared.
But he needs to act like a man and stand up, stand behind his word or he should have just kept his mouth shut.
This is Weeb Wars and WWII has been mentioned.
I'm expecting the exceptional Hetaliafags to feel their nipples tingling at this very moment.
Chuck is probably used to getting shit from Funimation employees. Him seeming to slide into the "weird uncle that visits on holidays" role. Or he acting stupid because he knows nukes are in bound and wants to have a laugh.
Aniplex could also be saying "you idiots have to get back to business because we are now responsible for your failures. Stop being petty fucktards."
To be fair, when it comes to Chuck it's not hard to want to be upset w/ his recent behavior.
When he wasn't talking to people, he was doing fine. He dropped that bombshell, lawyered up and disappeared into the night.
We heard nothing for some time. Then we saw that Twitter was posting about his upcoming roles and upcoming aired episodes, the whole Android 18 tweet where everyone in the comments was talking about how much more of a badass he was compared to Vegeta given the situation.
And we all thought that was the end of it? Wrong. Chuck continues to be mentioned and brought up as if nothing happened. At first we all assumed it was because Funi wouldn't draw attention to Chuck because it would make everything that he said absolutely true in the public eye.
But now he's back. He's buddy buddy with everyone not even weeks after they all demeaned him. I would wager he is no longer represented by BHBH as well. Given Lemoine's behavior, it's safe to say someone from the Lawtwitter camp has reached out to Chuck. Straddling the fence but taking the fencepost up his ass, he's likely had conversations with a super lolyer. He went in one direction, Slatosch went in the polar opposite direction.
So now we're left with a huge unknown. What went down? Was he given an offer he couldn't refuse?
I don't expect Chuck to recant. He can't do that either, because if he tries to claim that he was bullied into it he'll get shot to hell because he dug his own grave in remarks to comments about Vic's behavior. The panicked, berating messages that he apparently sent can be used against him if he decided to jump ship entirely and he knows it.
The KV legal camp's ultimate goal was to get everyone to turn against Vic.
They failed with Dahlin. They failed with Slatosch. They continue to attempt to discredit anyone who supports him in a way that would help Vic's case. They berate his fans. They've failed to locate Nick's sources.
But they've found the weakest link. How weak he is has yet to be determined but you are absolutely kidding yourself if you think that the Lemonparty mosquito machine hasn't made any shady attempts at getting to Chuck.
And really, all of this could be just because Chuck thinks that playing along is the only safe route. He is likely scared.
But he needs to act like a man and stand up, stand behind his word or he should have just kept his mouth shut.
This is Weeb Wars and WWII has been mentioned.
I'm expecting the exceptional Hetaliafags to feel their nipples tingling at this very moment.
Honestly, what Chuck Huber is doing right now proves that the best thing Vic ever did this year was not saying anything on Twitter. By letting these people condemn themselves out of their mouths and tweets, they revealed their true colors to everybody and there was no reason for him to respond. Now I'm not saying Chuck Huber is a bad man, but he's making himself look more and more disingenuous by the day and he probably doesn't seem to realize it. He's becoming the kind of guy Vic could've been if he had been constantly replying to fans over and over again the whole year.
As you point out DBS, Chuck needs to stop with the tree-hugging hippie crap and start acting like a man. He should've known what he was getting himself into. I'm saying this because I'm a fan of his and like any rational fan, I can express disappointment and disapproval over what someone I admire is doing, and what he's doing is far from admirable.
Or maybe he should've just said nothing. That would have been the smart thing.
Make a thread for him then.
Running counter info... yeah, sure... you're taking my messages way to seriously... I'm just chatting about the WW... EDIT: Oh, and just a small detail, you're talking about making fun of weirdos, but that's not what you do either so...
Don't play dumb please, it's not a good way to argue.
I'm saying Chuck tweets don't matter because it's not said under oath.
Are the defendants sued just for lying on twitter? No. They are sued for trying to destroy a man's life.
What Chuck is saying on twitter doesn't matter, because it doesn't outweight his affidavit.
I fairly sure that literally nobody on the thread ever said that Chuck was smart.
So now, you're trying to beat me on a technicality... are you trying to compete with KV?
It doesn't matter if it was wrongly notorized, Chuck still thought he was speaking under oath.
Speculation based on literally no factual basis. Why making theories based on nothing? What's the point?
I was talking about the people involved, the insiders. Nick wasn't on the list.
But yes, if you include the orbiters, Nick is undoubtably the mvp here, nobody gonna argue with that.
"muh affidavit" you mean the one that literally did nothing to change the landscape within the Texas VA scene, the same one that certain VA's used to attack Chuck as a conspiracy nut? The same people who he's now trying to cuddle up to because he lacks any semblance of testicular fortitude or the ability to stick to his pricipals for more than a week at a time.
I've seen fish on a dock flip flop less than Chuck.
Speaking of Nick, he mentioned this last night on his community page. It's safe to say that next week is going to be pretty interesting. View attachment 995827
Every time Funimation had a chance to enter settlement talks, they’ve refused to do so. At this point, I think it’s fair to enter the line of thinking that Funimation will double down, or whoever’s running the lawsuit ship is as KV as Monica and Jamie.
That would be interesting, but I think it’s something more related to Phlegmoine’s recent shenanigans. As a matter of fact, Nick implied this when he did that stream with Lady Rackets.
Yeah, starting at 1:36:06, Nick is implying that Phlegmoine is acting like such a spaz that it's actually got some people out there thinking and there may be some developments next week. Also, in Texas, hearings from submission require the agreements of the parties, and that one party is of an opinion that it's not acceptable. So, yeah, can't wait to see what'll transpire.
Frankly, if any company should've learned something from this, it's this: don't use twitter. It's cancerous to employee's and customers and nothing good will come from it. You can only lose when using it.
Every time Funimation had a chance to enter settlement talks, they’ve refused to do so. At this point, I think it’s fair to enter the line of thinking that Funimation will double down, or whoever’s running the lawsuit ship is as KV as Monica and Jamie.
That doesn't seem likely to me and wouldn't result in fireworks this week. Why not wait out the appeal? That's as long as months out, assuming the situation that it gets dragged out as long as possible by the appeals court refusing to hear it until the sanctions ruling and then it either has to be filed again, or the clock just starts ticking when the ruling is issued.
(The only real difference is whether Ty has to file a single piece of paper in the trial court the day of the ruling or not. That's what Lemonhead is pitching a huge bitch fit over because he's that much of a piece of shit and thinks, possibly correctly, that Chupp is enough of a moron to pay him for this stupidity.)
Also Funimation wouldn't even bother entering settlement negotiations if they weren't serious about them, and the proper posture (IMO of course) for them is to act as if they're adamantly opposed to such a thing up until the instant it becomes likely.
That would be interesting, but I think it’s something more related to Phlegmoine’s recent shenanigans. As a matter of fact, Nick implied this when he did that stream with Lady Rackets.
Ty may be launching that sanction war he threatened months ago. Or starting Round 2 since Lemoine really, really, really wants to see the documents.
The longest shot being that Casey or Andrea got disturbed by Lemoine's actions and came forward. (I know they are gone from the case but Lemoine has supposedly been the Mastermind the entire time so how much of this was shit show was planned is up for debate.)
The replacement for Vic's character in RWBY, Jason Liebrecht, went full re.tard when someone criticized his performance. Afterwards, he asked for help in doxing them so he could send them a gift.
