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SnergenFlergen said:
Isn't Chris breaking the law by selling his Sonichu Medallions?

I'm not trying to A-Log here, but isn't profiting from a (slightly) altered design of a copyrighted character illegal? If I tried to flog I dunno, 'Bert Sampson' merchandise (which was just Bart Simpson painted green or something) wouldn't Fox at the very least slap me with a cease and desist?

Given the number of weens there are, I'm very surprised Chris's new business hasn't yet been brought to the attention of Sega and Nintendo's lawyers
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Sega and Nintendo are not going to care about some sperg making a few hundred dollars selling his arts and crafts.
 
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yawning sneasel said:
This thread really has got me thinking. WHO would want to be with him? Sure there's the concern over actually getting someone who he would have interest in as well, however who would accept Chris as a mate? His appearance has been well documented as generally unattractive, his personality repels people. There is no hook there. I apologize for being somewhat redundant, but I truly do not see how Chris could even find a non-sexual partner. There's no special skills or talents. No nothing. What a sad existence.
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It's a cliche that men marry women who resemble their mothers. I can imagine Chris being discovered by a truly evil and sadistic person who manipulates Chris into becoming her literal slave. Even as a slave he'd be pretty worthless, so this would have to be a woman who gets off on the abuse itself. We all know that abusive relationships are sadly common. Chris's gullibility, autism, and dependence make him an ideal target.

The only other possibility I can imagine is a woman who is mentally retarded and has zero self-esteem, who would allow Chris to treat her like shit. These kinds of relationships exist too.

Chris believes that a sweetheart will solve all his problems, but we don't have to share his fantasy.
 
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Marvin said:
To sum it up: No, Sonichu is Chris'. Disney doesn't own every instance of a cartoon mouse, for example.
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Sonichu isn't a random hedgehog, though, but based specifically on the signature character of the franchise, as reflected in the design and name, just as it is based on Pikachu, similarly a franchise's signature character. Perhaps enough to defeat a fair use claim by either rights owner.

Since it's never, ever, in a million years going to happen that Chris gets sued over it, that's less interesting than the converse, which could happen, and that is someone else commercially exploiting Sonichu. I think Chris would himself have a very good claim against someone infringing, especially a commercial infringement that isn't a parody.
 
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I love your post asperhes. It exposes a social phenomenon. Abusers will seek to either abuse or be abused. That is how they understand relationships. They need to be one or the other or else the relationship doesn't exist. That is how they have constructed relationships. I think you are right. It makes me think of Kacey. If Ducky dumped her on her ass, I think it is entirely in the realm of possibility that out of not finding someone else to be herself to, she would strike up another relationship with Chris. Would it go so far as being a face-to-face thing? Likely not. There are other things that she likely needs (a supporter, someone who is somewhat attractive, etc.) But I could see her enjoying some sort of relationship with Chris, he has a lot to offer her that she gets off on. And she got off on those calls.
 
AnOminous said:
Sonichu isn't a random hedgehog, though, but based specifically on the signature character of the franchise, as reflected in the design and name, just as it is based on Pikachu, similarly a franchise's signature character. Perhaps enough to defeat a fair use claim by either rights owner.
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All cartoon animal protagonists look the same. Like compare Sonic and Crash Bandicoot. Big heads, small torsos, skinny legs.

As far as Sonichu's name goes, I'm not sure about that. I think that would depend on the linguistic origins of "-chu". Is that something that might be common in Japanese? Or could that be argued that it's unique enough to prove Sonichu is a derivative work?

Take out all of the explicit references to other works. What's left? Chris with a cartoon animal where he roams an invented city getting kicked out of places and arrested. That doesn't infringe on anything Sega or Nintendo has. An argument that Chris' sidekick resembles their character is pretty weak if the rest of the work is largely unrelated.

Edit: And yeah, an example is Fifty Shades of Grey vs Twilight.
 
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Marvin said:
All cartoon animal protagonists look the same. Like compare Sonic and Crash Bandicoot. Big heads, small torsos, skinny legs.
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By that reasoning, character rights to cartoon animals don't exist at all. You could just create Mickey the Woodpecker, crossing Mickey Mouse and Woody Woodpecker, and nobody could do anything. Fair use isn't that simple.

Edit: And yeah, an example is Fifty Shades of Grey vs Twilight.[/QUOTE]

Which was rewritten from being an outright fanfic to something that passes legal muster enough to be vetted by a publisher's legal people, be published, and adapted into a movie, apparently without any legal problems.

There would have been legal problems had it been issued in its original form, or with a protagonist named Lestat Cullen in a non-parody work.

If Sonichu were the star of a multimillion dollar film of its own, you can bet it would be sued, possibly successfully.
 
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AnOminous said:
By that reasoning, character rights to cartoon animals don't exist at all. You could just create Mickey the Woodpecker, crossing Mickey Mouse and Woody Woodpecker, and nobody could do anything.
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That reasoning was only part of the larger argument.
AnOminous said:
Fair use isn't that simple.
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(Just want to clarify that I'm not talking about fair use. That's a different concept that doesn't apply here.)
AnOminous said:
Which was rewritten from being an outright fanfic to something that passes legal muster enough to be vetted by a publisher's legal people, be published, and adapted into a movie, apparently without any legal problems.

There would have been legal problems had it been issued in its original form, or with a protagonist named Lestat Cullen in a non-parody work.
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What components are there to these sort of works? The characters, the plot, the universe? Out of these things, if the only links remaining are a similar character design and a similar name, that's nothing.
AnOminous said:
If Sonichu were the star of a multimillion dollar film of its own, you can bet it would be sued, possibly successfully.
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Probably not successfully. He'd probably just settle.
 
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Hellblazer said:
People always seem to care more about the Sonichu copyright than you would think, considering he's made less money off of it than people who make arts and crafts that are clear and obvious copyright violations.
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But the amount in question would actually be significant to him, while the amount he makes with his infringement isn't enough to be significant to, say, Sega.

Also, the appearance is different. In one case, you'd be a megacorporation stomping on an autistic dude over pennies. In the other case, though, you'd be an asshole ripping off an autistic dude for pennies. In both cases, the person adverse to Chris would look like the asshole.

Generally, companies haven't been very aggressive about pursuing people making things like custom plushies. They don't really make a competing product even when they do make mass-produced plushies. But they have gone after things that looked potentially competitive, rather than individually made arts and crafts level stuff.

(Obviously, the question of whether someone actually would sue over something and whether they could are different.)
 
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Chris often gets chided for living on Tugboat without giving anything back to society/economy. While this arguably did change during the last months when he started his Sonichu Merch Microbusiness, I think Chris did and still does cause a certain amount economic damage, but it has nothing to do with his Tugboat or lifestyle. Rather, it is due to a grand number of people reading Kiwi Farms, the CWCki or other Chris content on the intarwebz while they should be working. The amount of work time, productivity, profit and tax revenue lost due to obsession with Christory must probably not be underestimated.
 
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DykesDykesChina said:
Chris often gets chided for living on Tugboat without giving anything back to society/economy. While this arguably did change during the last months when he started his Sonichu Merch Microbusiness, I think Chris did and still does cause a certain amount economic damage, but it has nothing to do with his Tugboat or lifestyle. Rather, it is due to a grand number of people reading Kiwi Farms, the CWCki or other Chris content on the intarwebz while they should be working. The amount of work time, productivity, profit and tax revenue lost due to obsession with Christory must probably not be underestimated.
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The efficiency of an economic system is defined by how cheaply it can meet its goals. Christory is a loss only if it's not part of those goals.
 
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Quick question regarding the CWCipedia. Did the trolls who set it up just offer the site up and Chris blindly accepted since he thought their was a big Sonichu demand?
 
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Hey I got a question. What was the best present that Bob ever received from Chris?

I ask this because yesterday was my dad's 60th and I got him Gardens of the Moon for his present.

There has to be other presents besides the Fraggle Rock VHS and the bag of sweets he gave him as an afterthought.
 
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Probably one for Marvin or Thetan etc. but did anyone tell Chris at any point that the clitoris wasn't located on or even particularly close to the perineum when he planned to have his piercing? If so, how did he react? Did he do what he did that time when Ivy corrected his definition of a wet dream and just laugh and say she was wrong?

Also how do you think he made such a blunder? From what I can gather this guy watches porn around the clock, so how after 32 years did he fuck up something as elementary as that? I know you'll be tempted to say 'because he's Chris', but this seems bafflingly retarded even for him.
 
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SnergenFlergen said:
Also how do you think he made such a blunder?
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Given that the only way to honestly answer that question is to be Chris, I think "because he's Chris" might be the best answer you'll get. Chris had to study his own face to recognize it, so anatomical 'nuances' aren't his strong suit.
 
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SnergenFlergen said:
Probably one for Marvin or Thetan etc. but did anyone tell Chris at any point that the clitoris wasn't located on or even particularly close to the perineum when he planned to have his piercing? If so, how did he react? Did he do what he did that time when Ivy corrected his definition of a wet dream and just laugh and say she was wrong?

Also how do you think he made such a blunder? From what I can gather this guy watches porn around the clock, so how after 32 years did he fuck up something as elementary as that? I know you'll be tempted to say 'because he's Chris', but this seems bafflingly retarded even for him.
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Did you see the notorious Megan drawing? He has very little clue as to basic anatomy. It should be no surprise that he barely knows where his own duck is, much less women parts.

One a slightly related note, I am still amused that he refers to his duck as an "ugly growth" even when trying to sound romantic. What a weird-o.
 
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