Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

UntimelyDhelmise said:
That's what it really boils down to every time I see one of these legitimately great QoL improvements that I've been wanting for years. "YES! now so and so Pokemon can- Oh... Right..."

Of all games to finally give out these improved features, it just had to be during this dumpster fire...
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At the very least, if GF hasn't burned to the ground by then we can expect the following:

1) These mechanics/items make it into the next games (the one thing that GF does keep in next games most of the time are items like this)
2) Fan game makers will utilize these items
3) Pokemon Showdown will definitely do that.
 
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Cryptojew said:
Oh boy, I can't wait to transfer Articuno and Volcarona to Sw/Sh! They'll finally have a chance to shine!

*checks list of culled pokemon*

lol nevermind
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Same thing with Moltres, who would benefit from both the boots (for obvious reasons) and Blunder Policy (its best STABs have very shaky accuracy).

Honestly most of these designs suck dingo dick. Don't get me wrong there are a few pretty good ones (Alcreamie, Bolthund, Frosmoth line, and Grimmsnarl to name a few), but a lot of them seem to be putting concept first with the actual design becoming an afterthought. Many of these mons have interesting concepts (e.g. Intelleon, Rolycoly line, Dragapult line, and especially the fossils), but the execution is mediocre at best and horrendously ugly at worst. This was a problem seen in Gen 7's mons as well; many were based on obscure creatures (Crabominable is a literal yeti crab), interesting concepts (Alolan Persian being based on inbreeding for appearance, namely with actual persian cats), or both (Bruxish is a triggerfish that incorporates dazzle camouflage into both its colorful design and ability), but ended up with some of the worst designs in the franchise's history.
Another issue people have pointed out is that many of the designs have become too humanoid, namely with the starters. Furrybaiting aside, this contradicts the previously-established concept of Pokemon being essentially souped-up wild animals, and just hurts the overall design of the Pokemon in question.

On a more positive note, I'm curious as to how the Blunder Policy will affect competitive. In particular I wanna see how Battle Spot (assuming it returns) reacts to the new item, as inaccurate OHKO moves are popular in that meta.
 
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Sangria said:
Another issue people have pointed out is that many of the designs have become too humanoid, namely with the starters. Furrybaiting aside, this contradicts the previously-established concept of Pokemon being essentially souped-up wild animals, and just hurts the overall design of the Pokemon in question.
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Once again, furries ruin everything. Ever since Lucario they've been more and more blatant with the furry bait. I thought it couldn't get any worse after Zeraora with it looking like a literal living fursuit, but then Cinderace happened. By fucking god I never thought I could hate a starter to such a degree as that abomination.
 
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Tanner Glass said:
I would mainly do the following things.
- Do a new region, doesn't matter which.
- Do a full pass over all existing pokemon for a cull/rework (we don't need 4 or 5 identical flying/normal types like Pidgeot). Try to rework redundant pokemon into new typing to accomodate, but wind up cutting a bunch.
- Doing a full mechanical pass over the game, primarily expanding the Pokemon Center and Pokemon Daycare. No more hidden IV/EV values and a reduction of those numbers. More input and data for breeding, upgradable facility to try and get better pokemon from the process. Possibly a rare item to increase the shiny odds. More accessable items to increase/decrease EV values.
- Wild pokemon in the back half of the game will start with some EV points already allocated, so they aren't substantially less effective than pokemon you've already had for a while.
- Second region that opens up post elite 4, similar to Crystal where time has moved on and all of the old characters are aged up a bit.
- Unlockable hard mode, where in all trainers' pokemon have approperiate EV values (as opposed to just Gym Leaders, Rival, Elite 4 in the current games, I think).
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So you would make sword and shield? Only things missing are second region and hard mode.

I really like a lot of the gen 8 designs. I only really have a problem with the colors on some of them, but the shiny variants usually fix them like Grimmsnarl.
 
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All this meta talk doesnt mayter because this fucking chad is going to shit down all your shitmon's throats.
 
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Sangria said:
Honestly most of these designs suck dingo dick. Don't get me wrong there are a few pretty good ones (Alcreamie, Bolthund, Frosmoth line, and Grimmsnarl to name a few), but a lot of them seem to be putting concept first with the actual design becoming an afterthought. Many of these mons have interesting concepts (e.g. Intelleon, Rolycoly line, Dragapult line, and especially the fossils), but the execution is mediocre at best and horrendously ugly at worst. This was a problem seen in Gen 7's mons as well; many were based on obscure creatures (Crabominable is a literal yeti crab), interesting concepts (Alolan Persian being based on inbreeding for appearance, namely with actual persian cats), or both (Bruxish is a triggerfish that incorporates dazzle camouflage into both its colorful design and ability), but ended up with some of the worst designs in the franchise's history.
Another issue people have pointed out is that many of the designs have become too humanoid, namely with the starters. Furrybaiting aside, this contradicts the previously-established concept of Pokemon being essentially souped-up wild animals, and just hurts the overall design of the Pokemon in question.
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yeah thats my whole problem with them as well
Some of the concepts I really like but are really poorly executed, especially when you realize these pokemon are paired with ones of previous generations. sad thing is if they just if just refined enough the concepts could of been done better. that and if it was more consistent with the previous gens, since while I was okay with designs overall of all previous gens even if I had issues with pokemon like incinaraor, it's just is a massive art style shift.
well that and some of them feel like older pokemon ideas but redone in Galar, in that way the new pokemon feel unfocused, its caught between trying to evolve old concepts and creating new ones, stumbling in the execution for both at least for me.
It's not a case of "Old pokemon good, New Pokemon Bad" for me since I haven't really disliked an entire gens designs before like I did this
Now with the National dex I wouldn't give as much of a fuck since I could just ignore the new pokemon I didn't like and just take the ones I did like I did for gen 7, but we all know how that went.
Now I'm more interested in the response to all this leak stuff rather then the game itself since game freaks is caught between a rock and a hard place with how to handle this stuff
 
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Is Masuda okay? I don't want him getting sick ala Sakurai. He's probably extremely stressed and nervous because of the death threats. I know the Japanese work ethic is absolutely insane.

He is culpable for some things yes. But the other GF/TPC people are at fault as well not just because we'll never get uncut Japanese pokemon anime dvd/blurays for their fuckery.
 
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jellycar said:
Is Masuda okay? I don't want him getting sick ala Sakurai. He's probably extremely stressed and nervous because of the death threats.
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No he's fine, Nintendo isn't calling yakuza favors until next week
but in all seriousness the guys gonna be okay, guy eats fancy diners and shit all the time, and yeah it might get a toll having everyone shit on him, but I dont think he's in fear for his life since no pokefag is as crazy as the koani guy and would burn game freak down or anything.
He's probably thinking of "Okay wtf do I do, this marketing season has been an absolute shitshow"
personally he should just take a advisory role or do music at this point, staying in the public spotlight has gotten him in so many gaffs it's insane.
 
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Ok since you little fags dont get it.

>body designed for peak tanking, no need for anything else
>dumped all defensive stats into hp because it isnt a cuck
>every time he cooms he lowers your shitmons special defense
>ripens all the berries he carries to give him huge stat boost or full heals.
>chad grass/dragon typing.
 
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Love_Machine011 said:
IM SO FUCKING SICK OF YOU PEOPLE SHITTING ON APPLETON, HE IS FUCKING KINO.View attachment 1001341
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Like I said before, whether or not the designs can be considered good is an entirely subjective matter. Some like them, others don't.
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Ok since you little fags dont get it.

>body designed for peak tanking, no need for anything else
>dumped all defensive stats into hp because it isnt a cuck
>every time he cooms he lowers your shitmons special defense
>ripens all the berries he carries to give him huge stat boost or full heals.
>chad grass/dragon typing.
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Hold on, did they just give this thing a stronger grass type acid spray?
 
Kari Kamiya said:
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Is Game Freak not fucking around, or is Serebii Joe doubling down? You decide.
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There's the usual shilling and corporate dick sucking, but he also nearly got his career completely demolished during BW for dealing with leaks. So ever since then he pussies out and turns tail the second he gets even a whiff of trouble that daddy Game Freak isn't happy. Undoubtedly they yanked his leash earlier as well when Dexit first became known at E3. He was in agreement that it was a bad choice but then out of nowhere he went 180 to full-blown shiller mode.
 
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They should bottle GF's tears and sell it, mmmm delicious. Put out a shit game, lie continuously, get caught red handed two weeks before the game drops. I mean yea no one should be that crazy over Pokemon, but let's be real they are this upset because a ton of preorders got cancelled and think this will significantly impact sales.

Game Freak logic.
  1. Spending a year coming up with a new feature that would justify you cutting 5 major features from the past 6 years.
  2. Spend 6 months designing the tall grass for the game and realize your running out of time.
  3. Cry because you you put in QoL changes that have been requested for 15 years but forgot you converted a 3DS game onto the Switch and it looks terrible.
  4. It's ok cut out most of the Pokemon at random and then reuse everything you possibly can from Sun & Moon.
  5. Trickle out as little information as possible about the game.
  6. Pray no one actually plays the game before it comes out.
 
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