Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

"Hey guys, you successfully bullied me off of Twitter, so here's another platform to come harass me at, I'm totally not taking screenshots and sending them to the internet police to have your accounts deleted."
I would say to just ignore the little bugger. Clearly his mother didn't love him enough so he's fishing for attention the same way all the other idiots on twitter do: by making every facet of their life a public internet drama.
 
Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?
KF is officially neutral, but, it does have some strong values, like extremely free speech/humor and self-preservation.

Naturally, this puts us at odds with vengeful, restrictive KV, which is Islamic. We are haram to them, like ISWV is.
 
KF is officially neutral, but, it does have some strong values, like extremely free speech/humor and self-preservation.

Naturally, this puts us at odds with vengeful, restrictive KV, which is Islamic. We are haram to them, like ISWV is.

They aren't Islam befause the women have too many rights.
 
That would honestly make me glad to hear. Again I know having sympathy for people like this is something we should not have, but I kinda do. I mean he still has his whole life ahead to make stupid and less permanent mistakes. I mean fuck the others like manjaw, shoe eater, ron the wife beater, marzcunt, and the rest, but I really dont wanna see a 17 year old fucking up his internet presence that badly. I mean yes this is sorta permanent, but he can recover easily.



You know one of the things I use to be heavily involved in was yugioh. I would actually go to a local hobby shop every saturday and I did make some friends there. I also use to go to a place called books a million too. It was because of that when I got kicked out of my home at 19 by my mother, I was able to stay with one of those guys for a few months(I did help em move a couple times in a 5 year period) until I got my own place before moving out to another state.

Thing is the places I went to were not just card game based, but you had anime lovers too and DnD fanatics.

Giving them sympahty is how they never learn, trust me. Bringing down the hammer is the only way those Troons will understand the definition of consequences.
 
I understand your reasoning. You're saying that the label is subjective to a wide degree of individuals. It can mean many different things so arguing about one definition is irrelevant because not everyone may be on the same page about what it actually means or what they're even arguing for.
But my argument was more geared toward people who lump all those meanings together and assume that all of KF in general have the exact same stance or investment in the case or whether or not Vic wins, you know? Mostly people who aren't Kiwis or have a general dislike of KF. Like if Shane said all of KF is ISWV when in actuality he's just cherry picking the folks who are very outspoken against him and labeling them as part of the ISWV crowd together as a whole even if their actual interest in the whole Weeb Wars thing was mild curiosity and they care more about pissing Shane off than how good Vic is doing in the case or something. Everyone is in it for different reasons and for varying degrees of interest. This also applies to both of us, whereas you see KF as mostly ISWV, I see it as KF being only somewhat (probably mostly the folks who frequent Weeb Wars board) ISWV but that the site itself is neutral and doesn't care about any of this. I also wanted to emphasize my point that the labels of ISWV or KV doesn't really matter much here anyway since we make fun of people from both sides so despite which side any one user personally supports, nothing will stop them from calling a ISWV sperg a faggot.
KF is evil because when Renfamous was initially pulling her shit in Comicsgate, KF didn't turn her way at that moment and they eventually doxxed her. Even though that's sort of a stage name and she connected that stage name to her real name on social media. Anyway she wasn't really trying hard to be private. But, I bet she still probably cries about being doxxed like it was yesterday. She and her KV buddies use KF's doxxing to garner victim points on their side and by default they must be on 'the other side'. So they take KF negative rep and uses to smear the opposition.

But she knows full well what KF really is and is probably exploiting the information here as well as inputing false information on lesser watched corner of KF for people who forget KF is open to everyone.
 
I just want to throw in my two cents for people (both here and on twitter) that are under the impression that The Farms is firmly ISWV.
No. Just...no. Let me educate ya'll for a sec. Pay attention.

The Farms itself is NEUTRAL. The purpose of The Farms existing is that we comment on events that are happening either in general in the world or with certain individuals mostly on the internet. There is no movement here, there is no gay-ops here. Any information collected on this site is public information that literally anyone in the world can have access to. Non public information includes stuff like a full social security numbers, credit card numbers, and tax information (I think). But stuff like a home address, full names, e-mails, phone numbers, and date of births are all public information and thus information we are free to collect and archive here without breaking any law whatsoever. There's a reason why all those speds who tried to get Kiwi farms taken down failed. People from all over can use this site to gather information about someone. We're not responsible for what anyone does with that information, nor do we condone anything illegal that information may be used for.

For the most part, it is possible to support Vic without being part of the ISWV "movement" or whatever the fuck it's called. Some of us may or may not like Vic or may or may not even know who the bloke is or even be weebs, watch anime or even know what anime is, but we support the fact that the legal system should not be ignored in favor of using internet lynch mobs to pass judgment on people to the point where it affects their livelihoods. If you're gonna call someone a pedophile, rapist, sexual assaulter, then you better have the proof to back up your accusations if you want them to face justice. If you see assaults happen, you should not let them happen and then only bother to open your mouth about it 20 years later. There's a reason why police exist, there's a reason why courts exist and there's a reason why the legal system was put in place and why there's a records system in place to keep track of it all. This isn't the Salem Witch Trials anymore, we're not savages.

That being said, we laugh at those who align themselves with either ISWV or KV. It does not matter which side said person is on, if they do or say something stupid on the internet that catches our attention, then we laugh and make fun of them. No one controls what we do or say here. Not Vic, not Nick, not Ty, not anyone on ISWV or KV. No one. We do things of our own will because we want to. For those of you on KV who may be looking at this, no one is "rallying" us or siccing us on anyone or anything you speds. We're independent from all of this shit. Just because we want your side to lose, doesn't mean it's because we support ISWV or even Vic himself. It's because we support living in a world where there is order and a process for these kind of things and that people face justice the right way. Twitter is not the court of law.
This here, this fucking here is the truth and nothing but the truth.

I see ISWV as the twitter group. I would say that kiwifarms(at least the weebwar sector) is very pro vic, with some light anti vic once in awhile and most not giving a shit. There is a few groups I look at here.

Funiclique( sabat, monica, jamie, apple boy, etc)
Lawtwitter( Tgreg, dunford, etc)
Istandwithvic (Grug, TUG, SenPai, yellowflash, etc)
Kickvic(manjaw, dom, shane, etc)
Farms(obvious)
Party Lawyers(Ty, Lemonfuck, etc)

Then of course you have people who might fall into 2 or more categories or who may be aligning themselves simply for not liking someone else. If I am not mistaken, John Michael Kelly is more or less anti Nick than he is anti Vic, and nick could in theory be lawtwitter and ISWV(though i will always consider him an honorary farmer personally). You might also have the chaos seekers or crisis actors(I dont actually believe blue orca is kickvic, even if she would claim otherwise).

The whole thing is complicating to explain, imma probably get autistic ratings now as this is very fucking autistic, but hopefully this explains it well enough. You can support vic without being ISWV since that has become more of a group over the year this has been going on rather than a concept. Not to mention there are plenty of ISWV that hate the farms.


That's true because I got sick of the spregs on twitter thinking that they are the only ones that support vic and attempted to centralize the movement, all it did is get all the weeb-tards together in one place (for us to laugh), You make your point well because ISWV would want people that are Pro-Vic to be ISWV but why the fuck would people want to be part of a mess of a movement full of rats.

Some are ranting about who is or isn't ISWV.
But I don't think there is a clear definition of what being ISWV means to begin with.
Is ISWV the people who use the tag on twitter? Is ISWV the people who donated to the GFM?
Does wanting Vic to get justice makes you ISWV? Does simply thinking Vis is innocent makes you ISWV?

Before arguing who is or isn't ISWV, you need to first check that you have the same definition of the group.
The same goes for KV by the way, for some it's only the funiclique, for others it's the whole following.

If I go by the mere definition of the acronym, i.e. "standing with Vic", then the farms are currently very ISWV.
Granted that's because he seems to be the victim so far, but who ever said ISWV implies anything else?

The way I see it, the farms are pro-vic but not members of ISWV, ISWV is a group that is predominantly on twitter and made up of several cells although there are people that are independant that support Vic there. What separates The farms from ISWV is that people here are neutral in the ISWV vs KV fight and actually focus on where the fight really is and that's the court case while ISWV is more interested in laughing at KV from a marginally higher moral high ground, there are different priorities and many ISWV people are beholden to people on the farms as many people here do provide the info of the case.

Just because some people here are pro-vic doesn't mean that the farms themselves are also pro-vic.

Pro Vic =/= ISWV
 
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So in TLDR to the fucking speds lurking here, and need to be reminded this. The Farms does what it wants, try play moral high ground nonsense(You are fine with your morals, it's when you try to flex those morals on others that is exceptionally stupid ESPECIALLY when they are coming from a hypocritical sped), or try to pick fights with the farms, know what you are getting yourself into, or don't and become the very lolcows that are laughed at here.
 
The farms certainly doesn't mindlessly support any faction and some ISWV people like TUG are routinely trashed here and generally ill regarded. Even Nick and Ty have come in for the occasional criticism.

See it's like the Super Bowl. We don't give a fuck who wins.

We give a fuck who loses so we can laugh at them if they were absolute pompous fucks.
 
Hey Josh I was at Texas Collection Con. Sonny had an excuse that he was apparently sick and couldn’t come. The handler who had an excuse for Sonny didn’t seem to have one for you on canceling. Why is that? So why didn’t you show faggot? Don’t you care about female fans like me who were there? What about Cynthia Cranz and Linda Young who were there and didn’t cancel? They shared a table with Vic and Chuck. Tell me Josh, if Vic is so evil why didn’t you want to stop Vic from sexually assaulting female fans and female coworkers?

Are you full of shit Josh? Is it really all just a lie Josh? Are you a coward Josh who couldn’t look Vic in the eyes after betraying him? Is it because you knew even Chichi would pull more of line than you? Is that the case Josh?

Do you like it? Do you like it Scott? I call it mr and mrs tennerman chili
 
Shit like this is why Vic needed a rumors panel.

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Let's put it at this. ISWV and KV both have spergs, the thing is KV spergs alot louder and more obnoxious. When ISWV spergs get ignored then thats it they get ignored. When KV spergs get ignored then they go crazy likeView attachment 1056362
It's almost as if one's doing it mostly for attention/clout/brownie points, the other is not doing it mostly for attention and more so are frustrated, confused, and aggravated by nearly a year of watching this house burning. Now true there are a few in the iswv that fall in the former category, ultimately when they become too spergy, what happens to them? They end on a whimper and vanish and not a blaze like they seem to wish for.
 
Shit like this is why Vic needed a rumors panel.



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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Lol Feast Deluxe! This is priceless.

Let's put it at this. ISWV and KV both have spergs, the thing is KV spergs alot louder and more obnoxious. When ISWV spergs get ignored then thats it they get ignored. When KV spergs get ignored then they go crazy likeView attachment 1056362

And when ISWV spergs get ignored they start to fight with each other instead.

It's almost as if one's doing it mostly for attention/clout/brownie points, the other is not doing it mostly for attention and more so are frustrated, confused, and aggravated by nearly a year of watching this house burning. Now true there are a few in the iswv that fall in the former category, ultimately when they become too spergy, what happens to them? They end on a whimper and vanish and not a blaze like they seem to wish for.

That is correct, because many of them can't go to KV because they still hate each other and can't go to ISWV anymore because they fucked up. Those spregs are eventually gonna forms their own group in an attempt to get some clout only to get taken down again because they painted a massive bullseye on themselves.
 
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