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Love_Machine011 said:
Yea I still think its better then TLJ for sure. I seriously dont understand how the defenders of TLJ can come out and call this garbage with a straight face. They cant be all Rian shills, he aint that known. I think they just deluded themselves to the point were they enjoyed it and just dont want to look stupid, so they will defend TLJ to the death. But now they see Rise of Skywalker as an out.

Also I mentioned before that burying lukes saber on tatooine is more of an insult since he hated that planet and only stayed because of his family. BUT ITS SUPER exceptional THAT SHE PUT LEIAS THERE. FOR ALL WE KNOW SHE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN THERE,
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I mean I think this is worse than TLJ cause while TLJ is garbage, it at least has some decent ideas in it and has good visuals while TRoS is a mess that goes back to the generic rebels vs empire story and retroactively makes up new shit up it's ass, terrible pacing, and makes plotholes that fuck up all the previous films barring the first two prequels.
 
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Jewthulhu said:
Didn't those powers also have the trade-off of being incredibly taxing on the user? They throw that shit around like it's nothing in Plan IX.
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Some of the more egregious force powers that Luke had, especially during Dark Empire, were explained away by Zahn as Luke basically being under the thrall of the dark side for awhile and taking the easy way out. Mara snapped him out of it and he went back to being more reasonable. Personally, I thought it was a good explanation.
 
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Love_Machine011 said:
Yea I still think its better then TLJ for sure. I seriously dont understand how the defenders of TLJ can come out and call this garbage with a straight face. They cant be all Rian shills, he aint that known. I think they just deluded themselves to the point were they enjoyed it and just dont want to look stupid, so they will defend TLJ to the death. But now they see Rise of Skywalker as an out.

Also I mentioned before that burying lukes saber on tatooine is more of an insult since he hated that planet and only stayed because of his family. BUT ITS SUPER exceptional THAT SHE PUT LEIAS THERE. FOR ALL WE KNOW SHE HAS NEVER EVER BEEN THERE,
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I think it just all became typical partisan hackery. The "fandom menace", an exceptional group of clickbaiters in their own right, got into a faggoty slap war with the gender studies brigade, and the two year long internet pantshitting was basically locked in. Saying anything positive about Disney SW makes you a shill, saying anything negative about it makes you a fascist or whatever. Pretty much any given Tuesday on Twitter for pretty much any given subject people are talking about... the 5% fringe on each extreme frothing with incoherent rage and those lovable assholes mining them for clicks.

As far as the burying the lightsabers thing... I accepted that for the transparent "full circle" shit that it was... seeing almost nothing in this movie holds under scrutiny, either I'm going to allow a bunch of mulligans or spend six hours pissing and moaning over the small stuff. At the end of the day, they had a safe, but slightly weak, opening to this new trilogy and needed a truly great 2nd chapter to set up a finale... and they whizzed that 2nd chapter down their legs... this movie tried it's best to deliver an asian massage parlor happy ending, but JJ had both hands tied behind his back.
 
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They could have had an external threat to tell this tale and it would have been so much better. Sure, you don't want to use the Yuuzon Von, that's fine. Create your own. But you could have actually broadened the SW universe. Instead they're caught in this dumb, Chinese-menu-causality-loop where there are 5 choices on one side and five on the other. That's it. "Ooh, let's pick planet killing weapon from A, space Nazis also from A and training with an old master from B! Next time we'll take the evil Sorcerer/Emperor, twin sunsets..."

Rich Evans is right - the star wars universe is incredibly small.
 
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Starscreams Cape said:
They could have had an external threat to tell this tale and it would have been so much better. Sure, you don't want to use the Yuuzon Von, that's fine. Create your own. But you could have actually broadened the SW universe. Instead they're caught in this dumb, Chinese-menu-causality-loop where there are 5 choices on one side and five on the other. That's it. "Ooh, let's pick planet killing weapon from A, space Nazis also from A and training with an old master from B! Next time we'll take the evil Sorcerer/Emperor, twin sunsets..."

Rich Evans is right - the star wars universe is incredibly small.
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I always though Rich was wrong about that. Its just that hack directors care more about taking the east path. While the egotist directors care more about subverting your expectations in the most boring way possible. The old EU good and bad, expanded that shit wider then boogie pre surgery. They are just literally too lazy to sift through it to pick the good bits to add to new canon. Like they literally just got around to canonizing revan again. Thats how lazy they are.
 
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Starscreams Cape said:
They could have had an external threat to tell this tale and it would have been so much better. Sure, you don't want to use the Yuuzon Von, that's fine. Create your own. But you could have actually broadened the SW universe. Instead they're caught in this dumb, Chinese-menu-causality-loop where there are 5 choices on one side and five on the other. That's it. "Ooh, let's pick planet killing weapon from A, space Nazis also from A and training with an old master from B! Next time we'll take the evil Sorcerer/Emperor, twin sunsets..."

Rich Evans is right - the star wars universe is incredibly small.
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I think the Star Wars universe is only small when looking at movies that a studio would be willing to invest hundreds of millions of dollars into... You need a big cosmic level baddie and you need plucky underdogs to beat them... That's the only tentpole movies that will be approved. But I think the larger Star Wars universe has only ever done well in books, TV shows, video games, etc.... where you can tell stories that aren't always David vs Goliath shit. I think Disney+ content is the future for this franchise for the foreseeable future and that's a good thing.
 
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GeneralFriendliness said:
And despite having Zahn and Luceno on their direct payroll, they don't really use anything of theirs, and even Zahn says he has no control over Thrawn despite creating him, and only Filoni can decide his future fate.
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Speaking of James Luceno, dose he have another book in the works? He is one of the best authors they got now, his book catalyst is really good and the reason why I gave a damn about Galen and Jyn Erso.

He should of been in the story group, he's good at world building and adding depth to a lot of characters.
 
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Love_Machine011 said:
I always though Rich was wrong about that. Its just that hack directors care more about taking the east path. While the egotist directors care more about subverting your expectations in the most boring way possible. The old EU good and bad, expanded that shit wider then boogie pre surgery. They are just literally too lazy to sift through it to pick the good bits to add to new canon. Like they literally just got around to canonizing revan again. Thats how lazy they are.
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You could theoretically do anything with the Star Wars universe. From a detective movie to a romantic comedy, just set it in space and make half the cast puppets.
It's just no one would watch it because when people think Star Wars, they want space battles.
 
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IcyHotStuntaz said:
I think Disney+ content is the future for this franchise for the foreseeable future and that's a good thing.
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Controversial opinion you have there. Depending on how Mandalorian crosses the finish line, I might agree.

Jack Awful said:
You could theoretically do anything with the Star Wars universe. From a detective movie to a romantic comedy, just set it in space and make half the cast puppets.
It's just no one would watch it because when people think Star Wars, they want space battles.
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Mandalorian immediatly proves this wrong. The real reason is that they refuse to adjust the budget to the movies. If they cant pump a few hundred million into it, and get a billion out. They see it as too much work. Say what you will about marvel, but theyve had spy movies, fish out of water, heist movies, wierdo space adventures. People fucking love it, you just need to do it well enough. Like look at how retarded endgame is on a surface level, yet people still loved it.
 
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MSM shills are at it again jumping the gun, they're already writing articles like this saying Katelyn Kennedy is vindicated at the box office, only thing backing up this article are some really clueless predictions.

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We will see how off this article is tomorrow or monday, but It's not gonna make 190 million opening weekend it's just not possible. It's probably going to make 175 million, 180 tops. You might not think 10-15 million is a lot of difference but at this stage it really is a lot and it tells you about the final box office. It's not going well for this movie. TLJ had 220 million for reference. Their worldwide opening weekend number is also going to be way off.
 
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Love_Machine011 said:
Controversial opinion you have there. Depending on how Mandalorian crosses the finish line, I might agree.


Mandalorian immediatly proves this wrong. The real reason is that they refuse to adjust the budget to the movies. If they cant pump a few hundred million into it, and get a billion out. They see it as too much work. Say what you will about marvel, but theyve had spy movies, fish out of water, heist movies, wierdo space adventures. People fucking love it, you just need to do it well enough. Like look at how exceptional endgame is on a surface level, yet people still loved it.
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I was more referring to movies, but you're right.
 
Jack Awful said:
You could theoretically do anything with the Star Wars universe. From a detective movie to a romantic comedy, just set it in space and make half the cast puppets.
It's just no one would watch it because when people think Star Wars, they want space battles.
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I think that would all depend on budget and scope. If you take something like Solo, not a great movie but decent enough and I think it got somewhat swallowed by the TLJ backlash... But if they hadn't gone back and reshot basically the entire movie and only spent $80m instead of $200m... it would have been a decent little money maker for them. They could stop swinging for the fences with every movie and accept a couple of decent doubles into the gap... if it was a interesting script, I think plenty of SW fans would come back for movies that are more modest in scope. I think that's the direction they are going to take anyways, but with Disney+ instead of theatrical releases.
 
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Jet Fuel Johnny said:
Rumor has it, and I don't recall the sources, is that the prevalence of Rule-34 stuff on the internet was an actual worry for Disney regarding nuWars, so they deliberately went with the "avoid male gaze" bit you hear feminists sperging about on Twitter all day. That's why the actress for Asian Space Potato is actually quite pretty in everything BUT nuWars. Why Finn looks good in other movies but is ugly in nuWars, and why Rey is about as unappealing as they could get her without covering her in hissing spiders (because that's probably someone's fetish), and is ALSO why they left her in basically the same boring ass outfit the entire time.


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Fluoxetine Man said:
The fact that Force Teleportation exists means that could have easily retconned Luke nopeing out at the end of TLJ as teleporting to the valley of the Jedi or some shit.
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That's how you repair this shit. Make Snoke Pleagus and throw some Luke kicking ass in there. Show Ben and Luke as being tricked by him into thinking the other was going to attack at the Jedi temple.

Bonus points to killing Rose. Only slightly sorry for the pic
 
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Love_Machine011 said:
so where did the new lightsaber even come from? why didnt she just use that for the movie, if we are going to copy rotj then at least give an interesting lightsaber.
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What are the odds that their logic is blue + yellow crystal = green blade. So she just used the yellow crystal, despite this not being how it works.
 
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