Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Judge Holden]

I said this before, and I'll say it again: My favorite moment of the entire Sequel Trilogy, hands down, is the Finn and Poe escape in The Force Awakens. That moment made me like those characters immediately.

While not a particularly well executed moment, or one that I even particularly enjoyed watching when first seeing the movie, in hindsight I think the Finn vs Kylo fight was probably the real last dying gasp of the franchise before it violently shat itself to death.

An ex stormtrooper, the lowest of the low and a joke both in and out universe, insanely out of his league, confused and terrified and not knowing what the fuck to do, who has spent the entire movie trying to run away from this fight he knows he cannot win, finds himself standing between an enraged sith warrior and the woman he loves who is lying unconscious on the ground before him.

Despite knowing how utterly boned he is and how all hope is lost, he fires up his stolen lightsaber, something he has no semblance of training for, and charges in to a fight he knows he cannot win because after everything he has been through and all he has been running from, he knows it is the right thing to do....

....then he gets unceremoniously shunted aside so that a mary sue can prove she is the bestest and strongerest jedi ever, and he is then casually discarded into the "dumb and goofy black sidekick" bin

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Also anyone else find it strange how the mere idea of a black character having relations with a white girl is sending so many white disney fans into an absolute unhinged fury?

Gee I sure do wonder what could be going on here....

Decades of the finest, full-spectrum pro-miscegenation propaganda that money could buy are proving useless in the face of the unleashed female id.

 

[Judge Holden]

Offtopic but anyone else find it ironic how much of a damp squib the "bring back palpatine and make him quote prequel memes" ploy by KK wound up being if it really was an attempt to get positive memes about the film.

Seriously the only meme shit about it I have seen that isnt pure condemnation and criticism has been this

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

Based Boyega. I always liked him and his character from the start. Shame he had to defend this Sequel trash on Twitter until now, particularly during the whole KMT Instagram furor.

It still probably would've been lazy woke trash from Jar Jar Abrams, but Finn should have been the Jedi MC, not Rey.

His point is that the fandom has been saying the same thing for years: "X ruined Star Wars," so we just need to chill.

To a certain extent, he's right. However, the problem with his presentation is that he seems to imply that legitimate criticism amounts to fan whining. To be fair, the video was made several months before the release of RoS, but my point still stands.

At that point, the worst thing about Star Wars was the Prequels, Holiday Special/Special Editions excluded. You had the media and then the internet-born geekosphere hating on it so much that it became cool to hate it. Little did anyone realize at the time just how bad it could really get, and how unfair and overly negative their backlash towards it was.

Also that's really rich coming from HelloGreedo, who hated on the Prequels same as everyone else. Maybe he's feeling guilty.

 

[Judge Holden]

OHBOY Resetera just found out about an uppity negro making sexual remarks about decent white women and they are not happy

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

It gets even worse when you actually check out the bios for Holdo's planet (one of these entries is in a Kennedy-approved book called "Women of the Galaxy"). It is literally the Californian college campus planet, strictly vegan (they prefer soy and that's not a joke), like writing shitty poetry, crying in public is considered a virtue, women are dominant in numbers and roles, they are ruled by a Council of Mommies, they openly practiced astrology, and they have a juvenile and naive world view that doesn't take into account the nature of consequences such as if anyone (even if its a powerful political delegate or crime lord) shows up to their territory they will capture them if they have slaves without even realizing the dangerously stupid repercussions of this (but its fine and it all works out because Disney). The only thing Holdo rebelled against was her people's fashion sense which was grey clothing only and no hair dyes, which was honestly an almost psychotic habit of Holdo's who had to change her hair color every day or she would freak out, to the point of killing small animals and plants and using their bodily juices just to change her hair, but even her planet is now adopting that trait in honor of her fucking death. Also her planet has more suns than Tatooine but its fine...

If any a planet has ever been in dire need of Exterminatus, it is this one. Or an Orc invasion, just imagine these crying soyboys as they get torn asunder by a relentless horde of screaming monsters.

Imagine being the kind of a whimpy, wet blanket faggot that considers a "laying pipe" joke pretty crass as far as jokes go.

 

[Xerxes IX]

John Boyega has been killing it, it's like Christmas came late with the "emo mass school shooters
are so sexy and I'd have a Twilight tier romance with them" and "shipping a woman with a man is literal misogyny" camps now fighting on Twitter over his comment. Fucking christ, apparently Reylos are deactivating over this which is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
EDIT: apparently they're leaving Twitter because they can't take the fact that the cast and crew of the trilogy don't support Reylo and therefore don't like the shippers, which is absolute gold because the Nu Wars crew (maybe with the exception of the actors) has gone out of their way to express nothing but contempt for people who liked Star Wars before Disney got its hands on it.

OHBOY Resetera just found out about an uppity negro making sexual remarks about decent white women and they are not happy
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Let me guess, Soda is gonna eat a ban for promoting misogyny and rape culture in the workplace.

 

[Vault Boy]

Also that's really rich coming from HelloGreedo, who hated on the Prequels same as everyone else. Maybe he's feeling guilty.

My ass people like him feel guilty, they probably think what they did for almost 20 years was the "right" thing to do.

Never underestimate the power that "It's ok when WE do it!" has on people.

 

[Cyril Sneer]

I agree with this. Even in the mid-80's I learned that Stormtroopers were supposed to be elite soldiers, yet they got manhandled through the entire OT: they are easily fooled in ANH, they are too dumb to speak in ESB and they get routed by Ewoks in ROTJ. Then all the content in the 90's and beyond had to make Bigger, Faster, Stronger Stormtroopers, because regular Stormtroopers were just that, regular. You had darktroopers, deathtroopers, arctroopers and so on.

I think that a lot of the assumptions that many people make about Stormtroopers are more the result of memes run wild and careless thinking than anything that a close viewing of their onscreen performance in the OT would support. In ANH, after all, they only appear in the capacity of naval marines aboard Star Destroyers and the very high-value installation known as the Death Star. In ESB, we only see them deployed from Darth Vader's navy task-force when he takes over Cloud City (I would argue that General Veers' troops are actually regular Imperial Army soldiers rather than Stormtroopers, since their uniforms appear to be cold-weather versions of regular army gear rather than the all-over armor distinctive to the Stormtrooper Corps). In ROTJ, they're present planetside at the Endor ground-battle, but that does seem to be a special circumstance going by Palpatine's comments. The tendency to have Stormtroopers standing around guarding random Imperial installations on planet Backwater in post-OT media seems derived almost entirely Vader deploying a Stormtrooper landing party to search Tatooine for the Death Star plans, which seems to have confused many people into thinking that they were part of an Imperial garrison on the planet.

As for their combat performance, in ANH, they mow down the Alderaanian soldiers defending Leia with brisk efficiency, reduce a heavily-armored Jawa sandcrawler to a smoking shell with pin-point accuracy and their somewhat less impressive performance aboard the Death Star and apparent "weak-mindedness" can be explained by the fact that they were ordered to let the crew of the Falcon escape, on the one hand, and on the other, that their being heavily-indoctrinated to follow orders without question makes them unusually vulnerable to suggestion. In ESB and ROTJ, they're not quite so effective (assuming the capture of Echo Base was carried out by Imperial Army, rather than Stormtrooper Corps elements), but then again, getting caught in between the elite enemy assault force that you thought you were supposed to be fighting, and hundreds or thousands of previously-considered-inconsequential indigenous combatants waiting behind every tree to dog-pile you, is going to reduce the combat effectiveness of even the best units.

 

[verissimus]

If any a planet has ever been in dire need of Exterminatus, it is this one. Or an Orc invasion, just imagine these crying soyboys as they get torn asunder by a relentless horde of screaming monsters.


Imagine being the kind of a whimpy, wet blanket faggot that considers a "laying pipe" joke pretty crass as far as jokes go.
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Good god...what did George Lucas see in her? Man, talk about probably being one of the worse judges of character. Then again, he's in good company with George RR Martin in that department.

 

[PseudoScrooge]

Unused Twi'lek concept art by Lunt Davies:

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That's great...........and makes me think of THUMB WARS! Anybody remember that?

 

[Godzilla@1989]

So since Iger is out by 2021, does anyone honestly think Disney will be successful in the 2020s as they were in the 2010s.

 

[Uranus Pink]

That's great...........and makes me think of THUMB WARS! Anybody remember that?

Or remember Park Wars?

 

[Saxxon]

So since Iger is out by 2021, does anyone honestly think Disney will be successful in the 2020s as they were in the 2010s.

It really depends in who is taking the charge after Iger it's gone, i'm pretty sure that there's rumors about who might take the mantel somewhere.

 

[Rotollo]

So since Iger is out by 2021, does anyone honestly think Disney will be successful in the 2020s as they were in the 2010s.

They will probably go to Michael Eisner 2.0 in the 2020s

 

[2021Murder]

Good god...what did George Lucas see in her? Man, talk about probably being one of the worse judges of character. Then again, he's in good company with George RR Martin in that department.

She makes a great sandwich and is great at fucking?

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

I think that a lot of the assumptions that many people make about Stormtroopers are more the result of memes run wild and careless thinking than anything that a close viewing of their onscreen performance in the OT would support. In ANH, after all, they only appear in the capacity of naval marines aboard Star Destroyers and the very high-value installation known as the Death Star. In ESB, we only see them deployed from Darth Vader's navy task-force when he takes over Cloud City (I would argue that General Veers' troops are actually regular Imperial Army soldiers rather than Stormtroopers, since their uniforms appear to be cold-weather versions of regular army gear rather than the all-over armor distinctive to the Stormtrooper Corps). In ROTJ, they're present planetside at the Endor ground-battle, but that does seem to be a special circumstance going by Palpatine's comments. The tendency to have Stormtroopers standing around guarding random Imperial installations on planet Backwater in post-OT media seems derived almost entirely Vader deploying a Stormtrooper landing party to search Tatooine for the Death Star plans, which seems to have confused many people into thinking that they were part of an Imperial garrison on the planet.

As for their combat performance, in ANH, they mow down the Alderaanian soldiers defending Leia with brisk efficiency, reduce a heavily-armored Jawa sandcrawler to a smoking shell with pin-point accuracy and their somewhat less impressive performance aboard the Death Star and apparent "weak-mindedness" can be explained by the fact that they were ordered to let the crew of the Falcon escape, on the one hand, and on the other, that their being heavily-indoctrinated to follow orders without question makes them unusually vulnerable to suggestion. In ESB and ROTJ, they're not quite so effective (assuming the capture of Echo Base was carried out by Imperial Army, rather than Stormtrooper Corps elements), but then again, getting caught in between the elite enemy assault force that you thought you were supposed to be fighting, and hundreds or thousands of previously-considered-inconsequential indigenous combatants waiting behind every tree to dog-pile you, is going to reduce the combat effectiveness of even the best units.

Well, from what I can remember:

This canon is from the 80's to 90's. I think it got all reworked from prequels on. I have no idea what is today with Disney

But, it goes something like this:

The stormtrooper corps was a seperate branch. Though, they worked closest with the imperial Army..

They are not marines, nor should be thought of as such. Largely because there are seperate Imperial marine units..

They are more moddled after the Waffen SS. That is, troops that are strictly loyal to the Emperor. Primary function is to act as shock troops. But, they also work in a multi function role.

Essentially, they fill in whatever is needed. They would get assigned to either the imperial Army or Navy. The highest officer being nothing above a captain.

So, their chain command plugged into Army units(assigned to a Colonel) or Naval units(assigned to a Commander)..

When not assigned, they answered only to the Emperor(or his Moffs)....

But, that's been totally reworked nowadays. They are just part of the Imperial Army now, I think...

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Well, from what I can remember:

This canon is from the 80's to 90's. I think it got all reworked from prequels on. I have no idea what is today with Disney

But, it goes something like this:

The stormtrooper corps was a seperate branch. Though, they worked closest with the imperial Army..

They are not marines, nor should be thought of as such. Largely because there are seperate Imperial marine units..

They are more moddled after the Waffen SS. That is, troops that are strictly loyal to the Emperor. Primary function is to act as shock troops. But, they also work in a multi function role.

Essentially, they fill in whatever is needed. They would get assigned to either the imperial Army or Navy. The highest officer being nothing above a captain.

So, their chain command plugged into Army units(assigned to a Colonel) or Naval units(assigned to a Commander)..

When not assigned, they answered only to the Emperor(or his Moffs)....

But, that's been totally reworked nowadays. They are just part of the Imperial Army now, I think...

I really like the way that they were described in the old WEG Imperial Sourcebook. They were neither part of the Army or Navy (and were rather mysterious, with no apparent support personnel or logistics chain that anyone outside of the Corps could identify), but were dependent on the Navy for transport and on the Army for planetside vehicular/armor/artillery support, while they filled the role of marines for the Navy and special operations troops for the Army, each branch of Imperial military service thus being locked into interdependence with each of the others.

 

[Ridleys Mouth Filter]

Maybe KK was the first one George met that went ass to mouth. Would explain the butthurt and foul shit coming out of her mouth on any given day

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

I love how unabashedly racist people suddenly are at John Boyega cracking jokes, like that one who calls men of color "trash."