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lol no it isn’t
Sam Fennah / FailSafe42 - Atheist furry who dropped out of college; sperged to Bionicle fans about God not existing #SAVEBOB
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Ah shit, you right, shoulda put that in quotation marks.
"Story."
If you're not going to contribute anything to the thread that isn't a "NO U," you're cruising for a threadban, bucko.
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I responded to your statement of opinion with mine. I also posted at length what i feel works about the writing and what posters have been getting wrong about it. I’ve been contributing. And yes, I’ve also been fucking around with the ones who’ve been frothing at the mouth at me since I dared say I liked the show independent of its creator and whatever the fuck is wrong with him. We’re Kiwis, it’s what we do. Everyone’s angry and nobody’s laughing. Thread was in bad shape long before I got here.
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I was more referring to your last "lol no it isn't" post, m8. I wanna nip any of that nonsense right in the bud.
As for your points, they all kind of just boil down to "lol no ur wrong" without any compelling arguments to back yourself up, instead blaming people's confusion on their "not getting it." But this isn't The Holy Mountain we're talking about here, it's a bunch of shorts animated by a smug furry with delusions of grandeur and a baffling level of misunderstanding in regards to the most basic principles of both storytelling and animation. The anger in the thread no doubt comes from the fact that, surprise surprise, nobody likes a self-important know-it-all who thinks he's a genius and looks down on other people for not getting his DEEP ART. That and there's people in the thread with animation backgrounds who are suffering some serious second-hand embarrassment.
However, I am curious as to what actually drew you to his work. What are you seeing that nobody else in the thread sees? What's the appeal? I genuinely want to know because I can't see anybody older than high school age actually liking Fennah's work.
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I like weird eldrich creature designs. I like horror in general and the show scratches that itch well enough that I want to see where it’s going. Granted, that’s before I realized the shit in the show might be representative of one or more fetishes and the philosophy might reflect the author’s, but again, I approached the show not knowing any of that. I don’t love the show by any means, but I do like it, and it’s weird and disturbing enough to keep me interested, regardless of authorial intent so far.
I get that, but I guess I don’t understand why it’s not also extremely funny, to the point that it overrides anger. Like I find the screengrabs on the first page hilarious.
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I may be a little biased here, but I like that @heyilikeyourmom is here. He comes from the vacume of Satellite City and has an alternative perspective on it all, except this "yes no" arguing over it BEING furry is redundant and won't really go anywhere. I do laugh at his [Fennah] stuff, just for different reasons (I'm not mad, I promise).
@heyilikeyourmom what about the lore do you think is interesting? It does look like he took real world events and just inserted each character and said "yeah, that was them" instead of really laying out how they went about causing it.
@heyilikeyourmom what about the lore do you think is interesting? It does look like he took real world events and just inserted each character and said "yeah, that was them" instead of really laying out how they went about causing it.
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Fennah rides that weird line where he's not so incompetent that you can bust a gut laughing at him, but he's nowhere near skilled enough to be regarded than anything more than a hobbyist. There's also a sinister element to him that is probably not the kind of sinister he's consciously going for, but instead it's all through implications. Like, you're laughing at first because the guy thinks he's hot shit, but then you start peeling back the layers to take a closer look and you're like "oh... oh no."
Also as somebody who loves me some creature designs, Fennah's leave a ton to be desired. I think the only ones I kind of like is Winnifred and that scarecrow dude, but Winnifred is just horribly misused, IMO. You look at her and she reads like this giant, unknowable being that sort of ghosts through our natural world, spotted here and there by people out alone in the woods during a snowfall where you can barely make her out, something whispered about around campfires, and not some chewtoy for a needle-toothed Cheshire cat/weasel hybrid 20 times smaller than her.
Overall I think Fennah is a haughty creep who thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is. Though I do have to admit, him suggesting an autistic person go watch Rain Man is so out-of-touch it's pretty hilarious.
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They're not weird eldritch creatures, they're a fetish.
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If you look at the datbase he set up it’s pretty expansive, mostly before their world got blowed up, but I think he did a good job of cooking up a race and reality that’s genuinelly alien to our own, and yeah, I think he deserves props for that much. It’s a little edgelord, yeah, but even that’s kind of counterbalanced by the fact that their violent, uncaring culture is what ultimately destroyed them, which I thought was the point the story was building too. Not so sure now.
They don’t give me a hard-on so to me they’re weird eldrich creatures.
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You're right, they need way more titties.
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Anything could benefit from more titties tbh
I forgot to mention this earlier, but that is the scale I grade it on. That’s what I mean when I say I think it’s good for what it is.
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He really did make the ass bigger, along with creepy furry six-packs around the waist. And even still, there's no real expression on Lucy's constantly-moving, twitchy face. Hell, just the weirdness of her teeth makes it look like her mouth is barely opening to speak.
Truly animation to rival Disney.
Truly animation to rival Disney.
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Learn to archive bro.
Chamulum
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I'm a newfag. Leave me alone.
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I can agree with this. Mostly it's Sam's arrogance with his animation that bugs me. He seems to genuinely believe that he has nothing he need to learn about art/animation. The idea that others have studied animation, spent years and decades perfecting their craft, and then converged upon a set of guidelines and best practices that they've distilled into rules like the Twelve Principles of Animation, seems to not compute with Sam for whatever reason. No, Sam's convinced that it's all just a bullshit racket perpetuated by Disney and friends to keep animators like him down.
Also, here's another screengrab from his Youtube Community tab that I thought was relevant here:
FENNAH
For the record, I would do CGI commissions where I make peoples characters and animate them... but based on what other artists charge for drawings, I’d eithe...
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Now I'm not an animator or involved in the whole art/commission scene, so people can correct me if I'm wrong here. But it seemed like a particularly haughty take. Wouldn't the monetary value of your skill be determined by how much someone is willing to pay you for it, like with every other professional endeavor in life? You don't get to decide that for yourself preemptively. This "people couldn't possibly afford my awesome work!" idea is part of what bugs me about Sam's attitude in all this.
Actually, you raise a good point. I've been making sure to rip his channel videos, so I've got local copies of everything. But did we want to be actually archiving them online somewhere, e.g. bitchute, perhaps?
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Can't we use a MEGA?
I'm on the same boat as @Yotsubaaa on this. Having artwork comissioned can cost up to 50 USD if you want something good. Hell his girlfriend does comissioned work so she should know about that field. Except I imagine she's more an enabler to his bob-eyed ego and wouldn't tell him to calm down for a second. If he held himself as someone who was doing it as a hobby I'd be less critical of his work and he probably wouldn't have a thread.
Can't wait for season three to critique that!
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Man, you know what bugs me about 3D software today? They've invested so much into certain gimmicks like hair texture and post-processing for still shots that a person can somehow make rabbit fur look totally natural with built-in tools while completely fucking up the texturing of so much else. It's like the default settings encourage people to jump into the uncanny valley.I can agree with this. Mostly it's Sam's arrogance with his animation that bugs me. He seems to genuinely believe that he has nothing he need to learn about art/animation. The idea that others have studied animation, spent years and decades perfecting their craft, and then converged upon a set of guidelines and best practices that they've distilled into rules like the Twelve Principles of Animation, seems to not compute with Sam for whatever reason. No, Sam's convinced that it's all just a bullshit racket perpetuated by Disney and friends to keep animators like him down.
Also, here's another screengrab from his Youtube Community tab that I thought was relevant here:
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For the record, I would do CGI commissions where I make peoples characters and animate them... but based on what other artists charge for drawings, I’d eithe...
Now I'm not an animator or involved in the whole art/commission scene, so people can correct me if I'm wrong here. But it seemed like a particularly haughty take. Wouldn't the monetary value of your skill be determined by how much someone is willing to pay you for it, like with every other professional endeavor in life? You don't get to decide that for yourself preemptively. This "people couldn't possibly afford my awesome work!" idea is part of what bugs me about Sam's attitude in all this.
Actually, you raise a good point. I've been making sure to rip his channel videos, so I've got local copies of everything. But did we want to be actually archiving them online somewhere, e.g. bitchute, perhaps?
The eyes are good, the fur is good, but that nose is somehow freakishly textured and lit so it looks like a porous foam stress ball. Animated it would all look grotesque because the lighting takes infinity years to prebake frame by frame on a normal PC, but in a still it looks way better than it should.
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Prices for commissioned 3D artwork are no joke, the amount of skill and hours of intense work required for a good model tend to naturally put stuff on the high end. Off the top of my head Lemurfeature is a furry CG artist with actual game and movie credits and years of experience, and his prices run into the hundreds of dollars for a single posed model.
I have to sympathize with Fennah a little here; his fans seem to be mostly too young to be able to sink much money into commissions, and working for less than peanuts is always a nightmare for a freelancer. To echo Lemurfeature, charging less than $200 for a well-made character model is an insult to an artist when a single model can take 15+ hours to complete. Yes, artists only exist because of their audience etc, but at the end of the day it is a business and nobody's going to slave away at a commission that pays less than minimum wage.
I have to sympathize with Fennah a little here; his fans seem to be mostly too young to be able to sink much money into commissions, and working for less than peanuts is always a nightmare for a freelancer. To echo Lemurfeature, charging less than $200 for a well-made character model is an insult to an artist when a single model can take 15+ hours to complete. Yes, artists only exist because of their audience etc, but at the end of the day it is a business and nobody's going to slave away at a commission that pays less than minimum wage.
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Finally got to watch the new Lucy video. The mouth is honestly horrible to me. Her teeth are way too long so they always look like they are clipping into each other, and when she does talk she looks like she has a mouth full of marbles. The chest is so far out that it looks like she would fall over due to being top heavy, which is probably why he made her hips wider to perhaps support the weight? I'm trying to find a way to not justify it as a fetish, despite knowing it is now. Also the abs...no. Just no to all of that mess.
The eyes and fur texture are honestly the best thing about her, but that's usually the case with his models. I just wish he learned to texture skin better so it didn't clash so badly with the rest of the character. Noses and the skin inside of ears always look out of place and made of fabric or plastic. Also please study anatomy and how real animals move when creating any sort of creature. It would get rid of the issues, and might actually add some weight to their movements.
The eyes and fur texture are honestly the best thing about her, but that's usually the case with his models. I just wish he learned to texture skin better so it didn't clash so badly with the rest of the character. Noses and the skin inside of ears always look out of place and made of fabric or plastic. Also please study anatomy and how real animals move when creating any sort of creature. It would get rid of the issues, and might actually add some weight to their movements.