Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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A plague of locusts isn't entirely out of the question. East Africa is currently dealing with one.

Just you wait until China culls all the bats as retaliation for the virus (see: Four Pests campaign). You'll be getting an increase in other undesirable pests that will make life hell for the average Chinese citizen.
 
Russia in China livestreaming his escape back to the motherland via Korea. Right now he is just sitting in an... airport? Maybe a train station. He has some other streams up on his channel that might be worth watching.

 
Current scoreboard, the Thais topping the charts at the moment:

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Can anyone tell us the significance of this? Is this something China needs to do because of their shitty sanitation systems or would it apply to civilized countries?

Academics, please respond.

It means either A: You have so many bodies laying around that its going to cause its own heath problems and you dont have the manpower to bury them fast enough.

B:The virus is still active in the bodies for a long period after death.

I'd bet on A because as we have already seen they're overwhelmed transporting supplies and possible infected people to hospitals. Doubt they have enough mortuary personal or gravediggers and if you were one would you want to touch one of those bodies? Heck I'd be worried about people taking a dead parent home and burying them themselves and botching it with a too shallow grave and just add more trouble to the health problem.

One thing I dont get is where is the military? Where is its logistics and more so where is its manpower. An infantryman can certainly mopp up and load trucks with dead bodies. Dont need specialty training for that.
 
They'll be singing a different tune when the AIDS bunch in San Fran start dying by the dozens.
Early on it was reported that they gave some people the same anti retrovirals that are given to aids patients. Wouldn't it just be something if Prep and Aids antivirals prevented people catching it and the trannies were the only ones standing in Frisco after the Apocalypse?
 
It means either A: You have so many bodies laying around that its going to cause its own heath problems and you dont have the manpower to bury them fast enough.

B:The virus is still active in the bodies for a long period after death.

I'd bet on A because as we have already seen they're overwhelmed transporting supplies and possible infected people to hospitals. Doubt they have enough mortuary personal or gravediggers and if you were one would you want to touch one of those bodies? Heck I'd be worried about people taking a dead parent home and burying them themselves and botching it with a too shallow grave and just add more trouble to the health problem.

One thing I dont get is where is the military? Where is its logistics and more so where is its manpower. An infantryman can certainly mopp up and load trucks with dead bodies. Dont need specialty training for that.
According to Wikipedia:

China cremates more people each year than any other country, reporting 4,534,000 cremations out of 9,348,453 deaths (a 48.50% rate) in 2008.[2] The cremation rate was 45.6% for 2014 according to Chinese Ministry of Civil Affairs
 
Did China ever say they had found those two genetically engineered twin sisters that the Mad Scientist had cooked up a few months back? I'm suddenly starting to get a very video game feel to this all. Like we've been here before.
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My God! Our only saviors from the Chinese Zombie Apocalypse will be the Gamers! They've been training for this their whole lives!
 
It means either A: You have so many bodies laying around that its going to cause its own heath problems and you dont have the manpower to bury them fast enough.

B:The virus is still active in the bodies for a long period after death.

I'd bet on A because as we have already seen they're overwhelmed transporting supplies and possible infected people to hospitals. Doubt they have enough mortuary personal or gravediggers and if you were one would you want to touch one of those bodies? Heck I'd be worried about people taking a dead parent home and burying them themselves and botching it with a too shallow grave and just add more trouble to the health problem.

One thing I dont get is where is the military? Where is its logistics and more so where is its manpower. An infantryman can certainly mopp up and load trucks with dead bodies. Dont need specialty training for that.

Agree. To date we have seen very little involvement by the various branches of the PLA. If nothing else, the PLA has many combat engineer units that could easily dig mass graves. The PLA surely also has medics that are prepared to work on a nuclear-biological-chemical battlefield. They certainly have decontaminating equipment.

Wonder if the PLA Navy has ships that can distill fresh water from sea water in quantities large enough to be provided to communities on shore. Am sure the PLA and PLAAF have plenty of helicopters that can be used for airlift of supplies/people.

And as previously stated, am sure the PLA has large amounts of medical materials in war reserve stocks. Long since past time to get those into the hands of sick civilians.

The only thing I can think of - just had an off-the-wall thought - maybe Xi is saving the PLA to put down any revolts/insurrections/riots/whatever resulting from the people's anger at the government not telling them the truth and not dealing effectively with this virus outbreak, besides the other two. Sure would like to know the number of cases and deaths among the PLA stationed in the Wuhan area and neighboring regions.
 
>Two-week incubation period
>Contagious while asymptomatic
>only a few weeks in
>"spread feels low"


Give it two-six weeks.

But we are two full months in. The first patients were hospitalized on or around Dec 8. Meaning the First infections were likely late November. People didn't just start moving around in January. By Dec 20th they had seen enough patients detected in the Wuhan area that they were becoming alarmed. (and people started getting arrested for becoming alarmed.)
 
But we are two full months in. The first patients were hospitalized on or around Dec 8. Meaning the First infections were likely late November. People didn't just start moving around in January. By Dec 20th they had seen enough patients detected in the Wuhan area that they were becoming alarmed. (and people started getting arrested for becoming alarmed.)

Well the first problem there is that those "two full months" can be more or less cleared off the dry-erase board as the numbers are from an unreliable source. Secondly, we're not going to really see how this plays out in the west until it fully hits, which if the stated situation is true (two weeks, asymptomatic infection) is going to be in about 7-10 days, probably.

Third, even assuming the data is accurate/honest, if the 2 weeks incubation/asymptomatic infection combo is true, then we won't reliably know how many are infected right now until two weeks from now, so it's strange to be making concrete statements about the spread, anyway.
 
Early on it was reported that they gave some people the same anti retrovirals that are given to aids patients. Wouldn't it just be something if Prep and Aids antivirals prevented people catching it and the trannies were the only ones standing in Frisco after the Apocalypse?
So now we have to take super expensive anti-AIDS meds even if we're not getting drilled in the butt (or anywhere else)? I wonder who benefits from this.
 
Is there an approximate fatality rate for the disease yet, and is that rate based on anything in particular? For example, do we yet know how likely a healthy man in his 20's would be to die from the virus as opposed to an elderly man? I've seen figures of around a 1% fatality rate from infected individuals at the moment, but no idea what the proportions are.
 
It does feel odd how realitively few cases seem to be popping up so far compared to China; Is the ccd underreporting or were there just not enough cases for it to blow up in the US yet? I sort of expeted the US number to start going up... now as the first 14 days since China started openly admitting it was a problem. Instead it seems to only go up 1 person a day or so and the people getting it are directly related to the first people.
I know there have been a lot of suspected cases popping up all over the place but it seems the clear majority of them don't have the coronavirus.

...Then again according to the medical report on the first US case who has now recovered, it took another 5-7 days once he started openly having symptoms (coughing) to have lung issues, so maybe I just need to wait another week to see the numbers start spiking; And considering how many flus are going around at the same time, people are coughing all over the place and may not necissarly connect that to Coronavirus.

Also, what antiviral medicine did we give to that guy?? It looked like he was deteriorating quickly at day 7, but by the next day he started recovering.
 
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