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[General Disarray]

Dems are ticked that the GOP opened a field office in Milwaukee (the first) on MLK Drive (lulz) ahead of the DNC convention.
They call even that, "pandering." It's a display of outreach to the black community and we can't have that!
It's not too far from me, maybe I'll drop in one day.

 

[TowinKarz]

The worst thing about Republicans is they've become the party of managed decline.

And look at China now. Is their supremacy really that inevitable? Or have our leaders just decided it'd be too hard and unpopular to actually lead again?

It's not just the Republicans.

The essence of both the neocons and neolibs was, indeed, managed decline.

Both parties argued that America's time as a world leader was over, we had won the war but lost the peace as far as Cold War politics had gone, and we were the UK circa 1946, yes, we'd won, but we'd bankrupted ourselves in the process ( only in the US' case it was moral bankruptcy with inexcusable racism/sexism/homophobia/etc, not economic) . And the average citizen would just have to accept that our Empire, our colonies, our industrial base, everything really would have to be sold off to pay those bills, cultural bills, giving all the industry to China and India was a moral imperitive since those people apparently lived the "right" way and working-class Americans did NOT.

The structure of the US should be stripped to the bare bones, the average folk swept into the gutters, with their sordid racist histories and culture, and then rebuilt with the "right" kind of ethnicity in charge. The only indigenous Americans who could stay were those chosen few who had displayed through wokeness that they "understood" this reality....

Americans, especially in the midwest and south, should not only be kicked out of the ranks of the prosperous but should also have their local cultural histories replaced by a dependency on cheap mass-produced schlock from Hollywood and Silicon Valley (the disastrous last 20 years of endless woke and representation movies and 24/7 left-policed social media where thoughtcrime was VERBOTEN) and their own traditions would be made as illegal as the Constitution (a RACIST DOCUMENT! DON'T YOU DARE DEFEND IT!) allowed.

The Republicans (if only by a tiny measurable degree) were disinclined to agree with this and still tried to show the flag for the American Dream, hard work and self-actualization in a nominally free land, but ultimately cucked out when shouted at enough on the floor of congress that they had to PROVE they weren't awful racists just like Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms over there. (Also, the check they got for selling General Motors to Mexico was, well, substantial) Hence they adopted lose-with-dignity as the mantra of the party and tried to make the "uncomfortable truth" of the "obvious" decline of the nation easier to swallow by sprinkling a little "Jesus n Shucks" (tm) seasoning on it.

Yeah, maybe WASN'T the fault of everyday Joe and Jane from the rust belt that they were fucked in the globalist future, but they WERE indeed fucked. Only by selling off the means of their economic support including the very land they lived on if you were a Montanan, (that Chinese solar farm has to go somewhere) could enough capital be raised to keep them alive for one last generation with some consolation. And that consolation was - Gay Marriage now Illegal. PRAISE DA LORD!

Yeah, that'll put food on yer plates, well, just pray on a Bible hard enough and maybe that chunk of cardboard will be turned to steak just like Jesus turned water into wine! You never know till' you try!

That ended up being the only difference between the neo-parties of the mid to late 00's and 10's

Dems - You DESERVE to die off, you racist polyphobes, now you know how the rest of the WORLD has felt for 200 years, accept IDpol justice-by-proxy! Or don't, certainly doesn't matter in the long run, we are the future.

Reps - It's too bad you're dying off, it really wasn't your fault your country couldn't compete in the New World Order, but that's nature's way, we'll at least find a nice plot to bury you.... and if you were good, you go to Heaven anyway, right?


And it's pretty clear with the rise of populist nationalism across the globe, the people in this country, and a lot of others where the message was the same, said:

"I'm an socico-ethno criminal? I don't have a say in my own country? I'm guilty of crimes I didn't commit? I owe my money to another based only on my skin color? I'm beholden to billionares who exist in this human cloud service above me who've managed to somehow evolve beyond borders and inherited national guilt that I can never wash off? I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO, MATE! FUCK RIGHT OFF! "

Since the neocons weren't into it for ideology, just money, they gave up quick and caved to that force by accepting Trump when they saw what was happening, a few even were glad that they could drop the facade of believing that hard work and personal accountability were obsolete, they just were too timid to say it and risk being replaced by a lapdog who WOULD agree.

But the neoLIBS? Entrenched in their ideology that the Western World deserves collapse so that the brown people can get ahead for a change? Arrogantly believing they are on the "right" side of history itself? They're the ones fighting this wholesale rejection tooth and nail, screaming that they are you masters, they are your betters and every white middle-class person's duty is to live in a pod and eat bugs..... as penance for their ancestors success.... and they are NOT going to give it up. They've gone so far left, returning to normal is heresy to them. And it's why they've gone absolutely batshit in their platform since Trump came out of nowhere on them in 2016 and invalidated the illusion that their managed decline ethos was accepted and working.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Godspeed. You have not suffered as many have.

You just need to look at Candace Owens from the right perspective. I find her genuinely enjoyable to watch. Just realize she is essentially a black, female Borat, and it all comes together.

Because of Maslow's Hierarchy. Once you've got your basic needs taken care of, you start looking for belonging, esteem, and self-actualization. Politicians have stopped selling workable policies and are now selling a sense of community, of status, and of self-actualization.

That's the really insidious thing about the way the left has been framing "racism" recently. It's not enough that things are improving for everyone; the current outcomes are unequal, and that means there is institutionalized racism/patriarchy/bigotry/whatever that needs to be dealt with. They have insulated their ideological stranglehold against things getting worse and things getting better, because things will never be perfect and therefore The Fight must carry on.

It's not enough that black kids can get the education they need and their parents can get jobs; they are underperforming whites, and that means there is a Black Issue. If your candidate doesn't address Black Issues, they are racist. It's not enough that women have been fully accepted in the workplace and can pick any career path--they are only 30% of company executives, and therefore you must vote for the candidate who Fights For Women(TM). And so on.

Rich white college graduates are not voting for Socialism because they are suffering, they are voting for socialism because they are told others are suffering, and they feel bad about it, and they are told socialism is The Good Thing which will make the Bad Things go away. The middle class is voting for socialism because the Socialists promise they won't be the ones paying the taxes, it will be those rich white fools. The lower middle class may have their lot improved, but they haven't gotten over the stability shock of 2008, and the Socialists are the ones promising to secure their future. And the poor want Socialism for obvious reasons, no matter how many jobs get created.



And yet the TDS documented in this thread continues to increase. Impeachment is not a distant memory, it was last week.

Scott Adams is morbidly correct when he says we now live in a world where facts don't matter. Trump was a racist homophobic alt-right pussy grabber who would start WW3 and end Medicare. The fact that none of this turned out to be true is irrelevant to the question of who you will vote for. You can't go back on that stance without acknowledging serious flaws in the way you describe the world, and if your have personalized politics to the degree the left has, then destroying your ideological worldview is destroying your very identity.

No matter how much better off they are now, people will not destroy their identity to vote for Trump. They'll rationalize it as "growing stronger under oppression", and hey, what a coincidence, their side values such Stunning And Brave victimhood stories as the last remaining form of virtue.



You vastly underestimate the power of pandering. If it didn't work, politicians wouldn't do it.

And I think that's a fundamental backdrop to the extreme insanity of current year. It WASN'T remotely this bad in the 60s, not even close. Some of the physical manifestations were worse, like the WEather Underground, Panthers, shit lke that, but then again, people were more active and engaged more with the world rather than blathering online.

But there's been something show up, starting in the 80s IMO, and it's slowly grown by increments since en until we now have this batshit polarized ideological rigidity. It's combo of having those needs largely met giving us the leisure, and then a sort of existential nihilism that came about from a "globalized awareness", where we have a nagging feeling of our own insignificance, and in order to soothe ourselves of that, every issue becomes this monumental global struggle that we PERSONALLY are involved in. Some faggots protest a statue removal? We must go to WAR against the NAzis taking over the world and putting us in gas chambers! Obamacare? We must resist at all costs to fight against medical death panels and gulags!

All the same shit. I've quoted it before, but I think Chuck Palanhiuk nailed it with this realization in Fight Club:

“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives. We’ve all been raised on television to believe that one day we’d all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won’t. And we’re slowly learning that fact. And we’re very, very pissed off.”

The 19th and 20th century saw a breakdown in both a sense of meaning and of community, sometimes violently. FRom both how communities slowly had their local nature (and hence the personal connection and meaning in our ilives) eroded due to various factors: global travel and trade, the ability to shitpost to someone in Des Moines from Abu Dhabi etc, to the destruction of old systems of meaning: Christianity losing its importance, Nobility evaporating etc.

All that shit has been replaced with a few reactionary solutions. Socialism is one of them, but it has such a MASS meaning, it can only be sustained at an individual level by creating a constant stream of enemies and wreckers. It was largely a reaction to (and in some ways a cause of) the evaporation of the influence and meaning people got from the church (or temple) and the nobility.

Islamic fuckery a reaction to that global community connection and the destruction of a lot of the traditional tribal (ie local) apparatus, as well as being one of the only systems where being a pious, aggressive zealot is still fashionable, and a lot of people find meaning in that.

Globalization being a reaction to that (including a federated Europe) by creating a sense of connectedness and import to what one does locally.

And throughout, a traditional way of getting cohesive meaning locally, and a sense of effecting the world around you, nationalism, pops up and down in fashion, sometimes in the worst ways.

And beyond that, there is a growing kind of aesthetic tribalism to fnd meaning. Gamer, Rapper, Gym Bro, Radiohead fan, Star Wars vs. Star Trek etc etc.

I think those are the main ideologies fighting in people 's minds to give them a purpose and meaning in what is really a fundamentally meaningless and chaotic world. The nobility/religious, socialist, faux tribalist, globalist, and nationalist. And most people's ideological framework is a combo of some of them.

Your average troon fetishist, for example, is a fusion of the globalist, socialist, and faux tribalist. Your average Proud Boy faggot is a fusion of the faux tribalist, nobility/religious, and nationalist. A place like KF has a bunch of diffeernt hybrids, and functions without forcing any orthodoxy, but all perspectives seem to have a faux tribalist aspect.

And just like any legal system or bureaucracy, they contain their own internal logic which doesn't actually mesh nicely with reality. It's only ever a subset of reality based logic (if at all), so the different systems can become mutually exclusive -- what is inalienably true in one system is inalienably false in another. Scott Adams' "same screen, two movies" sort of thing. And all the while, to protect one's own worldview and identity when bashing against actual reality, the ideology and response get more severely and extremely rigid and xenophobic. They demand compliance from others. How else can you defend your sense of self from destruction being he unseen drive?

I can't see this ending well at all in 20 or 30 years, tbh, but am also fairly optimistic in the long run, since people are largely lazy, self-sabotaging, and incompetent.

Anyways, just me sperging and trying to articulate my thinking on this shit....

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

The Trump fart sniffing in this thread has reached peak infestation.

HK what are you talking about?
Trump hasnt chipped away at anything. The news has been completely absorbed by his circus thats why people aren't talking about real issues. The circus puts asses in front of screens, talking about the economy doesnt.

North Korea is still playing with Nukes.
Russian Oligarchs are dropping millions of dollars on U.S. Elections.
And Trump was a dotard that got played by Turkey and created more grievances with Iran.
And the economy is still shit and is completely reliant that we dont go further into this stupid trade war that has been fucking over American Farmers.
And not to mention the price of living continues to skyrocket under the Trump administration. New jobs doesnt mean shit when you aren't paid enough to have a roof over your head and eat.

We are set up for another housing crash.

Trump is historical and a spectacle but hes not helping our country. Hes an embarrassment.

If you're going here to spout your 180 IQ takes about how Orange Man is indeed bad, at least have the courtesy to not regurgitate boilerplate talking points while doing so.

Funny how we never had so many threadshitters until the "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" thread started up. Weird that. Very odd. Stranger thing.

Must be a complete coincidence.

The "Trump Enslavement Syndrome" thread is just a renamed r/the_Donald thread.

 

[Crystal Golem]

The family with TDS posts are great plus the establishment goons on the left have got their marching orders and turned on a dime to attack Butigieg and Sanders in some bizzare hope it'll give Biden a chance. The inability for TDS types to walk and chew bubblegum at the same time makes them really obvious.

 

[TowinKarz]

And I think that's a fundamental backdrop to the extreme insanity of current year ... a breakdown in both a sense of meaning and of community, sometimes violently.

I think this is it and the reason is the "Long Peace" that the shaking out of the post WWII world into economic superblocs caused. The modern world leading countries cannot war with each other without destroying everything in an nuclear exchange, and that means the loyalty to nation and country a citizen once strived for and could be reward for, has been rendered meaningless.

Love your country? Hate your country? It matters not since it's not going to war with another one any time soon, or otherwise have to face-off in a matter that has long-term stakes. The nation you live in in the modern world could lose you completely and not feel a thing, and conversely, you really can't subvert it even if you try.

Tou can go full on ANTIFA and bust every window in your town, and the US will continue on it's current trajectory without even feeling it.

On the flip side, owing to the extreme power discrepancy between First World and even Second World nations (let alone Third-rates) being so acute, that even if you were to GIVE YOUR LIFE for your less-than 1st rate home country, you'd accomplish nothing. Dedicating your life to the overthrow of national enemies, loudly and proudly, gets you nothing except being exploded from a desktop a thousand miles away by a drone operator who knows nothing about you except you're a live target he was told to neutralize.

There is no reward from a 3rd world country for sacrifice, nor is there real penalty in the first for treachery.

And into this vacuum, people have needed to invent enemies to fight, and the new "sides" of the 21st Century culture wars don't break along political lines primarily like borders and nations, but self-actualized identity tribes.

That's why it's so bonkers on the outside looking in, sane people who don't need validation from the fight really can't understand why it looks like others are ready to draw a knife or gun over the results of a video game, or the fact that a man in a dress is just that..

Everything is NOT the penultimate battle in a conflict that you HAVE to win or your "country" ceases to exist....

Now, I think this state of affairs is ultimately preferable to having to re-fight the Somme every few years, but it means the problem facing modern leaders is how to channel the nervous energy of their people into productive means instead of getting behind these culture wars where people are fighting over the color of labels on salad dressing, basically...

 

[CheezzyMach]

I'm curious what happens to the republicans post-Trump. I really started to despise them during the Bush era, and guys like McCain, Graham, Romney, Ryan, etc. always kept the party in a place I couldn't consider voting for. A lot of these guys we joke about being based, like McConnell, were kind of pricks 5 years ago. The smart ones have been riding the Trump wave, but I'd bet that a lot of them don't really understand what's happening and why they're cool all of a sudden, and I don't know if they can keep that up when their big dick personality is gone. Unless some prospects for carrying on Trump's momentum start showing up, I'm guessing he's going to create a divide when he's gone.

The same thing that happened post Reagan, an R politician or two will try to keep the gravy train going only to fuck it up while the opposite party slowly unfucks itself and becomes popular again.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The Trump fart sniffing in this thread has reached peak infestation.

HK what are you talking about?
Trump hasnt chipped away at anything. The news has been completely absorbed by his circus thats why people aren't talking about real issues. The circus puts asses in front of screens, talking about the economy doesnt.

North Korea is still playing with Nukes.
Russian Oligarchs are dropping millions of dollars on U.S. Elections.
And Trump was a dotard that got played by Turkey and created more grievances with Iran.
And the economy is still shit and is completely reliant that we dont go further into this stupid trade war that has been fucking over American Farmers.
And not to mention the price of living continues to skyrocket under the Trump administration. New jobs doesnt mean shit when you aren't paid enough to have a roof over your head and eat.

We are set up for another housing crash.

Trump is historical and a spectacle but hes not helping our country. Hes an embarrassment.

Lol, calm down.

Trump has a lot of flaws, as does the rest of the Republican Party, but there is a reason why I am no longer a Democrat and can no longer support the neoliberal establishment Democrats or the Millennial Left that serve as their useful idiots.

I'm not necessarily a Republican either, but I'm definitely not a Democrat anymore. I'm voting for Trump mainly because he's a lot better than all of the candidates running against him in 2020, even though I voted against him in 2016 because he was too much of an unknown factor.

Thing is, Trump pleasantly surprised me as President. He's a loudmouthed asshole and his handling of the EPA isn't that great, but the competition is far worse on all fronts.

Sometimes you can't get what you want, but instead have to go with the option that is the least hazardous, and I'd wager that is a major motivation for a lot of Trump voters, both in 2016 and in the upcoming 2020 election.

 

[General Disarray]

Sometimes you can't (*always*) get what you want, but instead have to go with the option that is the least hazardous, and I'd wager that is a major motivation for a lot of Trump voters, both in 2016 and in the upcoming 2020 election.

That's why Trump plays that Stones song at his rallies. We certainly got what we needed in our President, imo. Can't wait to see what he unleashes in 2020.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I think this is it and the reason is the "Long Peace" that the shaking out of the post WWII world into economic superblocs caused. The modern world leading countries cannot war with each other without destroying everything in an nuclear exchange, and that means the loyalty to nation and country a citizen once strived for and could be reward for, has been rendered meaningless.

Love your country? Hate your country? It matters not since it's not going to war with another one any time soon, or otherwise have to face-off in a matter that has long-term stakes. The nation you live in in the modern world could lose you completely and not feel a thing, you can go full on ANTIFA and bust every window in your town, and the US will continue on it's current trajectory without even feeling it.

On the flip side, owing to the extreme power discrepancy between First World and even Second World nations (let alone Third-rates) being so acute, that even if you were to GIVE YOUR LIFE for your less-than 1st rate home country, you'd accomplish nothing. Dedicating your life to the overthrow of national enemies, loudly and proudly, gets you nothing except being exploded from a desktop a thousand miles away by a drone operator who knows nothing about you except you're a live target he was told to neutralize.

There is no reward from your country for sacrifice, nor is there real penalty for treachery.

And into this vacuum, people have needed to invent enemies to fight, and the new "sides" of the 21st Century culture wars don't break along political lines primarily like borders and nations, but self-actualized identity tribes.

That's why it's so bonkers on the outside looking in, sane people who don't need validation from the fight really can't understand why it looks like others are ready to draw a knife or gun over the results of a video game, or the fact that a man in a dress is just that..

Everything is NOT the penultimate battle in a conflict that you HAVE to win or your "country" ceases to exist....

Now, I think this state of affairs is ultimately preferable to having to re-fight the Somme every few years, but it means the problem facing modern leaders is how to channel the nervous energy of their people into productive means instead of getting behind these culture wars where people are fighting over the color of labels on salad dressing, basically...

WW2 was a big shake up. EVerything's a knock on effect, though, and I think that cultural shock initially came with WW1, though. The hideous, industrialized nature of war shocked so many people to their senses, NEVER AGAIN! became the mantra. A lot of people distanced or too low information never got the memo, though. The entire rise of Naziism was essentially a "Never Again!" writ large, and the wars are really so intertwined, you could almost say it was a single war with a breather for everyone to build up their industrial capacities for another super bonus round, and do a few ideological corrections to go at it again. Essentially, the 20s and 30swere a "go to your room and think about what you've done!" sort of thing, and everyone went to their rooms and proceeded to clean them, all the while muttering "Never Again!" Some were faster learners, though, so the Germans and Japanese had their rooms cleaned and were ready to go before anyone else.

The nuclear reality is an interesting point, and that could be what gave the nihilism growing from the end of institutions which had been going on since the 19th century its Turbo Charge.

On topic for Trump....
I kind of like to see the Trump stuff with this backdrop, and what I was saying in my previous post. Neither the Capitalist class, nor the Socialist elite have a problem with globalization. I think the last Nationalist would have been Eisenhower, although I think Kennedy likely was as well. LBJ, with the whole "domino efect" made that nationalist/globalist way of seeing things re-align, Nixon turned the dial to 11 with his visit to China, tossing Bretton Wood shit, Ford and Carter large oversaw the birthing pains of the new anti-national, pro-globalizt capital world. Reagan had the Socialist zeitgeist to balance against and fight, but a lot of the international shit that fit into policy, from Indonesia to Nicaragua to the Canada/US FRee Trade Agreement was more about globalization than anti-Socialism. The USSR collapses, and Clinton had a sort of carte blanche to pursue the globalization zeitgeist. Bush II came along, and a resurge of nationalism happened briefly as the left and right compensated to return it to the globalist framework, now with the Islamist madness as both an excuse and a reason. No nationalist minded power would have fucked up in Iraq as badly as the Bush regime. A few hiccups later, Obama continues the smooth operation of shucking people of various nations, including his own, of rights and capital for the elite, something that the asset stripping of the fallen USSR paid out years earlier in spades getting resources and capital at pennies on the dollar under Clinton, and Obama now did as "labour stripping" , getting labour for pennies on the dollar in China.

And Trump comes along and says "Fuck this shit!"

BAsically taking the other ways of addressing this meaning and social cohesion, particularly: Globalization, Socialism, Islamism and calling them shit. HE panders slightly to the nobility/religious model, gives no shit about the faux tribalism, and is fairly strictly nationalist, as every president up to LBJ was.

It's no wonder he's broken so many people's brains. And it's no wonder that the border wall and illegal immigration get him labelled Orange Hitler. The number one group who are definitionally the most anti-nationalist, people who leave their nation and don't give a shit about breaking the national laws of wherever they show up, are purely iconic for anti-nationalists and globalists.

The DRUMPT h8s Mooslims! is just a convenient attack point against the Islamist model when nothing else works. As is Drumpt h8s teh gaiz to address those led by faux tribalism. Tons of the Trump atttacks are based on the faux tribalism. From two scoops of ice cream, to feeding people burgers, to being liked by rednecks, his tribe is LESSER and UNSOPHISTICATED unlike us CNN urban hipster cocksuckers.

There might occasionally be a worthy Trump criticism in all these endless things, but they are mostly shifting goalposts as needed, creating noise, to try to get Trump's pro-NAtionalist/anti-Globalist ideas and followers discredited. They have nothing to do with any actual political policy of his.

 

[Goofy Logic]

WW2 was a big shake up. EVerything's a knock on effect, though, and I think that cultural shock initially came with WW1, though. The hideous, industrialized nature of war shocked so many people to their senses, NEVER AGAIN! became the mantra. A lot of people distanced or too low information never got the memo, though. The entire rise of Naziism was essentially a "Never Again!" writ large, and the wars are really so intertwined, you could almost say it was a single war with a breather for everyone to build up their industrial capacities for another super bonus round, and do a few ideological corrections to go at it again. Essentially, the 20s and 30swere a "go to your room and think about what you've done!" sort of thing, and everyone went to their rooms and proceeded to clean them, all the while muttering "Never Again!" Some were faster learners, though, so the Germans and Japanese had their rooms cleaned and were ready to go before anyone else.

I consider ww2 the 'Last gasp of imperialism'. Its also worth noting that the cold war practically began the moment the germans surrendered, and Stalin started flexing in front of the allies.

I think it was the 50 years of Mutually Assured Destruction that the Cold War had that solidified national lines. My parents said during those years everyone had an aura of anxiety that a exchange could happen at any time.

 

[TowinKarz]

@Dracula's Spirit Animal

Trump's enemies don't hate him, they hate the resurgence of the nation-state model they were (this) close to dismantling and cementing their own permanent power in a borderless world.

So yes, to them, Trump IS the END OF THE WORLD (they wanted and almost got)

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I consider ww2 the 'Last gasp of imperialism'. Its also worth noting that the cold war practically began the moment the germans surrendered, and Stalin started flexing in front of the allies.

I think it was the 50 years of Mutually Assured Destruction that the Cold War had that solidified national lines. My parents said during those years everyone had an aura of anxiety that a exchange could happen at any time.

The Cold War is a better example. Both the NATO and the Warsaw Pact powers had their own Scramble for Africa, and South America AND the Middle East as well.

China's pretty damned imperialist as well in Africa.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

So I got a feeling Adam McKay's Parasite remake on HBO is going to be full on TDS sperging.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I consider ww2 the 'Last gasp of imperialism'. Its also worth noting that the cold war practically began the moment the germans surrendered, and Stalin started flexing in front of the allies.

I think it was the 50 years of Mutually Assured Destruction that the Cold War had that solidified national lines. My parents said during those years everyone had an aura of anxiety that a exchange could happen at any time.

When I was a kid, there was not only a theoretical possibility, but a feeling of likelihood and in some cases CERTAINTY that nuclear armageddon was going to happen. Everything could end in an instant and there was nothing you could do about it. The most anxiety ridden basketcase back then would be a normal person now. Maybe the fall of the USSR made the controlling classes realize their only enemy left worth considering were the actual masses, and have spent the last thirty years propagandizing people into emotional wrecks?

 

[TowinKarz]

I lived in the same period, and, albeit was a kid for most of it, the "fear" of nuclear death was there, but, it didn't elevate in the normal person to the level of anxiety we see today when someone is "literally shaking" because of a video game they played.

Nuclear death was accepted as a risk, it was accepted as a risk that would never go away in your life, or your kid's life if we were alive for you to have one, and by the time I was born, two generations had lived and died completely in it's shadow. It had become so accepted that fear of it was normal, it was IRRATIONAL to not be able to cope with that fear, not to simply not have it..... those who could accept it got on with life, and those who couldn't went to live in a survivalist bunker in Nevada or sometimes grouped together in cults and went off to "safe" places like the high Mojave, Central America or Australia where they, ironically, sometimes ended up killing each other when the paranoia got to the leader...

If anything, the fact you may be atomized in your sleep, or wake up to a world where there was no more electricity, or cities, and you'd have to fend for yourself meant the average person was NUMB to the "threat" of rock music, or the next ice age, or whatever the other scares of the day were at the time.

It's not that they didn't care, they just had something to put in perspective why it was silly to complain to NBC about a certain sitcom character having racist overtones, or to worry about how many people flying those B-52's on constant SAC patrol in case they had to nuke the USSR in retaliation, were gay or transgender.

The loss of a "REAL" threat has meant that now that we have at least 2 generations who've grown up in the most peaceful time humanity has nominally ever had, the have no firsthand experience to look at someone yammering about how the President is a Nazi who will fire up death camps and realize that "threat" is NON-FOOKIN'-EXISTENT.

People can't live in a utopia. There's a fear of change and the fear of being attacked, hard wired into our mammalian brains, that apparently is needed to keep us focused and productive. If presented with no threats, that part of our mind is apparently obliged to create them. And once created, we are further obliged to FIGHT them.

If the Mouse Utopia experiment proves that there is a hard limit to a society's population that breaks it if exceeded, I think current SocJus and the Internet Thought Police show that there's also a hard floor of suffering/misery needed to property stimulate the human mind, that if gone below, also "breaks" people.

That last part is my conjecture alone, but, I do think that NOT having had a real hardship outside of the Great Recession, the current younger generations cannot accurately judge threats to their well being, not because they're dumb, or immoral, they just dont' have the EXPERIENCE.

And thus they can't see why hurting their feelings is not a crime.

Because it's not worthy of being called such, a crime is when you get STABBED not MOCKED.

 

[Robert James]

I'm disappointed that Trump hasn't been able to deliver on his promises of improving infrastructure, but I also realize that meaningful infrastructure improvements will probably never happen in my lifetime due to waste, bloated costs, NIMBYs and stupidly strict environmental regulations.

California will probably have a failing power grid, dry reservoirs and decaying roads within the next decade.

It's dem ran, that's a no brainer honestly look at what happened to the Detroit Metro Area if you want to see your future. Though the power grid will be maintained it just won't be able to withstand much and you'll have to get used to rolling black/brownouts, they'll claim its a green initiative or something.

Spoiler: Pro TIp

Reverse osmosis machines are cheaper then you think and require little work to install, just something to think about when your water starts tasting funny.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

It's dem ran, that's a no brainer honestly look at what happened to the Detroit Metro Area if you want to see your future. Though the power grid will be maintained it just won't be able to withstand much and you'll have to get used to rolling black/brownouts, they'll claim its a green initiative or something.

Spoiler: Pro TIp

Reverse osmosis machines are cheaper then you think and require little work to install, just something to think about when your water starts tasting funny.

"fix the damn roads" the karen in chief said

"the state's financially in the toilet" the republican legislature said

"I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER" the karen in chief said

"but ma'am, you ARE the manager" the people said

 

[Bad_Guys_are_Good4EVER]

Apparently a man was arrested(sorry if i'm late) that wanted to break into the whitehouse with a knife, "ready to kill trump".https://www.businessinsider.com/man-arrested-white-house-knife-threat-trump-2020-2

Reminds me of that one guy who ran into the White House who was after Obama. Musy be a trend for every President, to have some crazy deranged person try and think that they can take on the entire Secret Service team.

 

[It's HK-47]

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