Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Niggaplease]

My guess is that they are creating crematoriums because it's an overwhelmed medical infastructure with poor facilities.

This leads to do a number on the sickly and elderly(because of terrible treatment).

In a developed country, Wu crematoriums don't happen.

It still doesn't fix shit because people are still nonfunctionally sick. But, it's probably not quite as dramatic...

They're not creating them theyre already established one of the reports said a worker cremated 116 in one day and only 10 came from a hospital. Either the death toll is exacerbated due to lack of access to medical care or if wu Chan is really deadly.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Welp, I think we can all agree that Corona-Chan has officially left that skanky strip club down by the airport and is now in her clubbing clothes twerking at that high end club.

Just got advised that it might be prudent to have 90 days of food, water, and medications.

A friend of mine is betting that this is going to have a 2% death rate here in America and that Bernie and the rest can campaign all they want, but it'll be martial law by August.

Personally, I think he's as crazy as he's always been. He spent a lot of time at Ft Meade, Fort Dietrich, and Red Stone, so he's always been a little weird. I figure here in the west it's gonna be closer to 0.5%.

As to why they haven't done more stringent measures? Well, let's see: The State Department flat out ignores BADORANGEMAN if they want to. The Dems are out to sabotage anything in order to make Trump look bad, fuck how many peasants have to die. People start screaming about their rights if you try to quarantine them. Stopping flights is racism. Dem governors are flat out lying on Twitter and would do the opposite of what Trump said if Trump told them not to drink battery acid.

If you prepare for stuff like this, you get called names. If you worry about obvious dangers and hazards, you get called names.

Hell, look on Twitter. The same people posting "It's just a flu, bro" wouldn't know influenza if it hit them in the face until they were choking to death. They're also the same ones who are saying Trump isn't doing enough but even THREE DAYS AGO were saying Trump was being alarmist.

America's turned into a nation of goddamn entitled morons.

The majority of the damage Corona-Chan's gonna do here in America? It's going to be because the public does it to themselves.

But, don't panic till you see the military bases locked down and the National Guard called up. Then, just worry a little and take care of yourself.

Remember what they teach you in SERE: Panic kills. Keep your head on your shoulders and you can get your way through anything.

And remember, Kiwi: Smile to yourself and hug your loved ones. It actually improves your immune system.

Yeah keep your stress down people, mental health IS phisical health!

As for Dem backstab. See that's exactly why I'm so happy right now 'cause that's exactly what I thought would happen over here and yet even though the right has been trying to dismantle our healthcare for a while now they just cooperated in expanding infrastructure and temporarily augmenting funding, and even though after their last fuckup the southern doctors already had prepared dates for a strike they just cooperated in reorganizing it to after the outbreak is done to be safe.

If the dems did something like that I'd be respecting them a hell of a lot more. I'd gladly vote for someone that knows when it's time to stop the bollocks and cooperate if shit gets tough. Hell until now I considered the spanish right a buncha loons but now I'm not so sure even if they still spew a lotta crazy shit. But I'd never vote for someone stupid enough to actively sabotage the country during a crisis just to make the other side look bad. That's preciselt why I've been voting left, because as low as my opinion of them is, whenever there's been a crisis they had helped the right, which is precisely why I now have no idea who I'm voting next time, I hate everyone but everyone has proven competent enough now. Meanwhile if I was a burgerlander I'd literally never vote dem after this even if their candidate seemed sane. They're betraying the people no matter how much you agree with them that is dangerous and should be punished.

So what is the Kiwis opinion on this?

Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'

Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.

www.jpost.com

Unless they've been testing multiple strands and got ULTRA LUCKY that's bollocks. But there is a chance and I doubt Israel would risk lying so hey probable yet cautiously only tentatively accepted good news.

I may be biases but remember the health care where I live is below city Chingchong levels. Its on par with rural chinaman healthcare, and our population is aging.

We don't smoke as much, we don't stress and lollute as much but our hospitals are even shittier. Most of them were built before isolation wards were invented. Machines like X ray and MRI are in a two digit number with month long waiting times under ideal conditions.

So far we know that runny nose is not it. That is just the cold or regular flu.

Israel takes no shit and jews are smart.
Happy merchant can do it and make a ton of shekels selling it, and be a hero.

Well why aren't you fixing that god damned healthcare then? You need to lobby to fix that honestly.

It has a current death toll of 7%. Everything else is mumbo jumbo.
What we *know* is that 7% die and 93% recover.

What we suspect is that 1-3% will die.
Some people expect even fewer deaths because they inflate the number of possible people not diagnosed without any sources and despite the most stringent control mechanisms ever implemented in the world being active in China.


If I was a really scummy betting man who bets on pandemic deaths I'd put it at 5% without access to effective hospital treatment.

Take into account that's only testing severe cases. Most are asymptomatic or only exhibit flu symptoms and are never tested. It's a lot less than 5%.

 

[GoofyMcGoof]

are never tested.

Sauce?

They're not creating them theyre already established one of the reports said a worker cremated 116 in one day and only 10 came from a hospital. E

Also do your potential future sauces include this ingredient ? I.e. the under-reporting of severe cases.

 

[Lithos]

Is it still cannibalism if you inhale another person?

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

They're not creating them theyre already established one of the reports said a worker cremated 116 in one day and only 10 came from a hospital. Either the death toll is exacerbated due to lack of access to medical care or if wu Chan is really deadly.

No, I don't doubt that they exist or being used. Infact, I think it's significantly underreported. But, I merely gave opinion as to why...

My opinion is the former, not the latter. Most of China is a massive shit hole with terrible infastructure and treatment...

I think this will become apparent when infection rates go up in developed countries. Yet, not with a high mortality rate.

This will just show that China is a flimsy superpower. Their reputation built on propaganda and coastal urban cities...

With that said, this shit could wreck havok in Africa...

 

[Niggaplease]

Is it still cannibalism if you inhale another person?

Is it considered necrophilia if you fuck a zombie or vampire?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Sauce?



Also do your potential future sauces include this ingredient ? I.e. the under-reporting of severe cases.

Dude. Italy's politicians admitted to it during interviews, we had all the chinese videos about people stressing at the doctos for doing it. Here in spain Fernando Simon said if you're not severe you shouldn't even try getting tested and that's before counting all the cases with no known case 0 telling us we got asymptomatics and people who think its a cold fucking EVERYWHERE. And as many pointed out same happens with the flu which is why sentinel tests are used, but they weren't used for this virus. This shit's been known for a while now. The virus is SEVERELY underreported. That's just a constant at this point.

Also @Magnum Tenebrosum. This is an intervention. You need to chill. You've been throwing rainbows at the weirdest posts I know you're a massive doomer but even I know at this point either you're the most devoted larper or you need to relax some times. Need to talk or something? I can't let that mental health keep plummeting man.

 

[GoofyMcGoof]

Italies deathrate currently stands at 17 dead 45 recovered giving us a 27% vs 63% ratio. So I'll buy it when the Italian PM says that, but then you need to go by those figures and not the 7/93% figures. (I.e. there is a serious underreporting of Italian cases, probably mild ones to be compared to their absolutely horrifying death/recovered rate.

Sauce it about Wuhan from any credible source that also includes that the mild cases are severely overrepresented in the cases that aren't diagnosed.
Everything I've seen suggests the opposite. People, including the very sick are terrified for being rounded up and so refuse to report themselves as sick in China while people who may be sick with something else are rounded up and sent to these makeshift hospitals and possibly put into the statistics or indeed get the virus while there.

I'd say the only credible figures right now are the Chinese figures, specifically Wuhan figures.

 

[Male Idiot]

The only thing the hungarian left and right can agree on is: not funding healthcare.

It is worse than Chinese health care and I severely doubt its better in other eastern Eurofag countries.

And banning all gmo, even research that has never seen monsato.

Csernobil vagy magyar kórház? Tippeljen!

10 fotót mutatunk, tippelje meg, hol készültek!

index.hu

Quiz Chernobyl or Hungarian hospitals. Protip, none of the pictures were taken in the Ukraine.

 

[Bum Driller]

Sauce?



Also do your potential future sauces include this ingredient ? I.e. the under-reporting of severe cases.

Dude. Italy's politicians admitted to it during interviews, we had all the chinese videos about people stressing at the doctos for doing it. Here in spain Fernando Simon said if you're not severe you shouldn't even try getting tested and that's before counting all the cases with no known case 0 telling us we got asymptomatics and people who think its a cold fucking EVERYWHERE. And as many pointed out same happens with the flu which is why sentinel tests are used, but they weren't used for this virus. This shit's been known for a while now. The virus is SEVERELY underreported. That's just a constant at this point.

Also @Magnum Tenebrosum. This is an intervention. You need to chill. You've been throwing rainbows at the weirdest posts I know you're a massive doomer but even I know at this point either you're the most devoted larper or you need to relax some times. Need to talk or something? I can't let that mental health keep plummeting man.

This.

It's very widely established that just two weeks ago(in some places just few days ago), it was almost impossible to get European doctors to test anyone if the person hadn't been in direct contact with someone from Wuhan or hadn't personally travelled to infected area. Hell, in some European countries even the people who were evacuated from Wuhan weren't tested if they didn't show symptoms during evacuation flight. And this was all long after the lockdown in Wuhan.

Based on this it's totally obvious that the virus must be very widespread at this point and mostly harmless. Most likely at some point in the near future the health officials just state this out loud, after enough testing on general population has been done. On top of this, the tests don't seem to be very reliable at all, and can seemingly give false negatives pretty much on a whim. Also at this point it's impossible to test everyone.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

No it's not. A lot of nursing homes are currently quarantined because of the flu. It's not smart to subject elderly people to potentially contracting PRESENT illnesses that are very difficult to bounce back from at that age. Pneumonia, whooping cough, the flu, all which are still a very real danger to the elderly, moreso than the coronavirus.

Yes, and it happens every year, and people still come to visit their families every year at this time..... Its almost like those are common place diseases in our communities that we deal with, and people unfortunately die from on a yearly basis. For a nursing home to be quarantined due to the flu it has to be a particularly bad year either for that nursing home or in general. I get where you're coming from, but do you think we should just seal off long term care facilities from October to April every year? If your relative is in quarantined nursing home due to the flu obviously you can't go in, and if you are sick you shouldn't visit said nursing home I would hope most people would understand this.

 

[Aku]

Sorry if I'm late, but there are confirmed cases of the virus in the Netherlands.

https://www.parool.nl/nederland/eerste-besmettingen-coronavirus-in-nederland-wat-nu~b6a4553f/

The first case, a ~50 year old man from Brabant has been put in quarantine. The second case is a woman who has no link to the first case, but was Lombardy last week. She has been put in isolation. Some protocols to fight the virus had been put in place.

This is going to suck. Carnaval is more popular in Brabant than most regions of the country.

Spoiler

I woke up feeling like absolute shit this morning. Might have caught a flu, but the symptoms aren't like wu flu's. Let's hope I recover from this one before corona-chan hits my immunocomprimised ass. I'll go and buy some long-lasting foodstuffs tomorrow and dig up those nitrile glove boxes I've had in storage for ages. I got some FFP3 masks back in january and I'm glad I did. The websites were already warning buyers that they were having stock issues, and that was last month. The prices have gone through the roof now!

 

[Lithos]

Welp, we all knew it'd be Lagos.

CORONAVIRUS CONFIRMED IN LAGOS NIGERIAN - Report Nigeria

The First Case of coronavirus has been confirmed in Lagos State of Nigeria. The Ministry of Health i

www.reportngr.com

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It was an Italian citizen.

Edit: Our wholesome friend Ugojesse's already here to inform his people!

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

The only thing the hungarian left and right can agree on is: not funding healthcare.

It is worse than Chinese health care and I severely doubt its better in other eastern Eurofag countries.

And banning all gmo, even research that has never seen monsato.

... And now I have one more reason to realize maybe spain wasn't so bad after all. Fucking hell that's retarded on so many levels.

 

[jjabramsisdumb]

Get yourself 6+ cats. You wont have time to worry or panic about anything plus they can drop your blood pressure and stress levels to a relaxed state.

Spoiler: SIDE NOTE

Side note : Local Bunnings stores in West Aus are starting to show empty shelves when it comes to 3M and similar brand masks and respirators.
Oil and Gas industry store people are noticing that a lot of their site stock is starting to dwindle and not be returned. Out of date but unused stock (masks, not filters) is now having to be rotated into the system just to keep up. They're not at 'people are stealing air fed welding helmets' stages yet, but it's coming.
A state rep for Sundstromme and Interspiro said that he was getting calls daily now from private buyers wanting large numbers of CABA masks and respirators but he's struggling to keep up with industry orders let alone private randoms..

An update on the Hopkins site which shows numbers more likely realistic 8 weeks ago.

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With new dots in South America and Africa now

Sweet, a fellow sandgroper!

 

[GoofyMcGoof]

This.

It's very widely established that just two weeks ago(in some places just few days ago), it was almost impossible to get European doctors to test anyone if the person hadn't been in direct contact with someone from Wuhan or hadn't personally travelled to infected area. Hell, in some European countries even the people who were evacuated from Wuhan weren't tested if they didn't show symptoms during evacuation flight. And this was all long after the lockdown in Wuhan.

Based on this it's totally obvious that the virus must be very widespread at this point and mostly harmless. Most likely at some point in the near future the health officials just state this out loud, after enough testing on general population has been done. On top of this, the tests don't seem to be very reliable at all, and can seemingly give false negatives pretty much on a whim. Also at this point it's impossible to test everyone.

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Who gives a shit what Europe or the US has been doing? There's not nearly a sample size big enough or even a public emergency declared. Of course there is under-reporting in Europe. The Death rates are much higher in Europe too. Deal with it. I.E. You can't be taking European testing results and mixing them with general population death rates. Use European death rates then and the only country with any reasonable pressure on it is Italy.

All this is being done to delay panic. 5%. Maybe 4%. Not lower unless severe cases are given intensive care for which we have a tiny capacity.

 

[jjabramsisdumb]

Some of the businesses are starting to open again here in the city where I work. I've been living off Shanghai Noodle Company products and boiled water for like a month now, gonna neck myself if I don't get to eat something fresh

Some bat soup, perhaps?

 

[Ahriman]

Mildly related:

Breaking911 on Twitter

“Chinese Restaurant Closes Down After Viral Video Exposes Meat Prepping Outside, But Wait Until You See What Happens When The Local News Shows Up! https://t.co/ZbVO0AxBRq”

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Like I said many pages ago, stereotypes are just collective memory. When people go "chinese are fucking nasty", this is the sort of thing they'll always remember, but they keep proving the stereotype right.

Chinese and hygiene standards do not go hand in hand, it's no wonder Corona-chan has spread like wildfire in China. Indians have nothing on China's hygiene standards.

 

[Bum Driller]

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Who gives a shit what Europe or the US has been doing? There's not nearly a sample size big enough or even a public emergency declared. Of course there is under-reporting in Europe. The Death rates are much higher in Europe too. Deal with it. I.E. You can't be taking European testing results and mixing them with general population death rates. Use European death rates then and the only country with any reasonable pressure on it is Italy.

All this is being done to delay panic. 5%. Maybe 4%. Not lower unless severe cases are given intensive care for which we have a tiny capacity.

Do you think that they would test everyone in China? In Singapore? In Japan? Or in South Korea? Do you understand that testing all of the population, or even all who would want to be tested due to panic is impossible? Due to this inability and unwillinges to test everyone it's most likely scenario that the actual cases are several multitudes higher than reported cases everywhere. But that also means that the disease isn't that bad, since we know that people aren't dying on the streets everywhere.

Death rates in Italy, the only place in Europe where someone has died of this, are high because all who have thus far died were fucking old(80+) and already in hospital receiving some kind of treatment. They could have died on the exact same moment with or without corona added to the mix.

 

[GoofyMcGoof]

Do you think that they would test everyone in China? In Singapore? In Japan? Or in South Korea? Do you understand that testing all of the population, or even all who would want to be tested due to panic is impossible? Due to this inability and unwillinges to test everyone it's most likely scenario that the actual cases are several multitudes higher than reported cases everywhere. But that also means that the disease isn't that bad, since we know that people aren't dying on the streets everywhere.

Death rates in Italy, the only place in Europe where someone has died of this, are high because all who have thus far died were fucking old(80+) and already in hospital receiving some kind of treatment. They could have died on the exact same moment with or without corona added to the mix.

What kind of nonsense is that.

"They could've died at the exact same moment".
Haha, so you'd invalidate all those results in general that show that old people are the ones who are mostly dying because what, they are old and they would be dropping like flies anyway?

Old people are the main victims of this disease and many others. If you're a spunky 20 year old with a good physique and healthy lungs you can discard your worries about this disease killing you. It's the elderly and sick who will suffer.

Again, source me something that tells me that mild cases as opposed to severe cases are underreported in Wuhan or admit you made it up.
I need my Wu-Sauce to these bullshit-noodles you've cooked up.