Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[MiniMuffin]

I had a look at Noelle Jaclyn’s Instagram. No pictures including Jazz, no mention of Jazz at all (except by others, in the comments)He developed osteoporosis from the hormone blockers and had to have surgery as a result.

The first picture on the account is from 2015 and I think it shows Noelle before he decided he was trans.

People commented on that post saying Noelle was an attractive boy and now just looks like a guy in drag. Which is unfortunately true.

(Of course) Noelle has a Tumblr. In the most recent entry, from late February, he sounds absolutely miserable and as if he’s been miserable his whole life.

I guess that neovagina hasn’t led to happiness, though the Tumblr says the surgeon was very happy with the results and was “surprised by how cis it looks.”

 

[Muttnik]

I had a look at Noelle Jaclyn’s Instagram. No pictures including Jazz, no mention of Jazz at all (except by others, in the comments)He developed osteoporosis from the hormone blockers and had to have surgery as a result.

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The first picture on the account is from 2015 and I think it shows Noelle before he decided he was trans.

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People commented on that post saying Noelle was an attractive boy and now just looks like a guy in drag. Which is unfortunately true.

(Of course) Noelle has a Tumblr. In the most recent entry, from late February, he sounds absolutely miserable and as if he’s been miserable his whole life.

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I guess that neovagina hasn’t led to happiness, though the Tumblr says the surgeon was very happy with the results and was “surprised by how cis it looks.”

Noelle strikes me as an extremely unpleasant person to be around. I just get that vibe from how much he's seething every time he hangs around Jazz. Jazz can be a major brat but it's always in a blissfully ignorant child kind of way. Noelle has all the bitterness of a growing adult and that can make or break how tolerant people are willing to be around you.

Also, there was a clip of Noelle and Jazz burning his sports uniforms as a sign of his transition. Bitch, poor kids could have used those jerseys

 

[BeboRefugee]

I had a look at Noelle Jaclyn’s Instagram. No pictures including Jazz, no mention of Jazz at all (except by others, in the comments)He developed osteoporosis from the hormone blockers and had to have surgery as a result.

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The first picture on the account is from 2015 and I think it shows Noelle before he decided he was trans.

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People commented on that post saying Noelle was an attractive boy and now just looks like a guy in drag. Which is unfortunately true.

(Of course) Noelle has a Tumblr. In the most recent entry, from late February, he sounds absolutely miserable and as if he’s been miserable his whole life.

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I guess that neovagina hasn’t led to happiness, though the Tumblr says the surgeon was very happy with the results and was “surprised by how cis it looks.”

How expensive are these surgeries? How expensive are the various drugs? Shouldn't all these high-schoolers be saddled with crippling debt?

 

[MiniMuffin]

How expensive are these surgeries? How expensive are the various drugs? Shouldn't all these high-schoolers be saddled with crippling debt?

I think bottom surgery (by which I mean one procedure, not counting any do-overs if they fuck it up) costs at least $10k, maybe up into the $20k range. I can only imagine how much Jazz’s four(?) surgeries have cost, but her family is loaded and maybe TLC paid for some of it too.

Not sure about the drugs, but in the US, unmarried people can be on their parents’ health insurance until they are 26.

Besides, in the US, most high schoolers DO get saddled with crippling debt when they sign up for college. Noelle’s surgery costs about as much as one year at an in-state college.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I had a look at Noelle Jaclyn’s Instagram. No pictures including Jazz, no mention of Jazz at all (except by others, in the comments)He developed osteoporosis from the hormone blockers and had to have surgery as a result.

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The first picture on the account is from 2015 and I think it shows Noelle before he decided he was trans.

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People commented on that post saying Noelle was an attractive boy and now just looks like a guy in drag. Which is unfortunately true.

(Of course) Noelle has a Tumblr. In the most recent entry, from late February, he sounds absolutely miserable and as if he’s been miserable his whole life.

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I guess that neovagina hasn’t led to happiness, though the Tumblr says the surgeon was very happy with the results and was “surprised by how cis it looks.”

You and I both know that's a bullshit lie that he tells himself to feel better about a crotch hole. "surprised by how cis it looks" when most of these butcheries result in stinking necrotic gapefests isn't an accomplishment. Also he doesn't pass and never will. Still just looks like a longhaired dude. 41% when

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Fucking terrifying that the surgeon was surprised that it turned out well.

"I'm surprised by how much it looks like a real nose!" said no plastic surgeon ever.

 

[MiniMuffin]

"I'm surprised by how much it looks like a real nose!" said no plastic surgeon ever.

That’s cause when you get a nose job you always start out with a real nose. Plastic surgeons are great at altering body parts. Less than great at manufacturing body parts out of thin fucking air.

 

[Video Games]

I had a look at Noelle Jaclyn’s Instagram. No pictures including Jazz, no mention of Jazz at all (except by others, in the comments)He developed osteoporosis from the hormone blockers and had to have surgery as a result.

Good to know that boys can get osteoporosis from hormone blockers too. I had only heard of girls getting it until now (probably because only girls were prescribed blockers for precocious puberty). Is osteoporosis a guarantee after a set period of time on the medication, or is it a hit-or-miss sort of side effect? I wonder if Jazz has bone problems he's never discussed publicly because it would "make the trans community look bad."

 

[OttoWest]

Greg Gigi Gorgeus is a huge flamer and after his transition he made a video about finding women attractive. Later he fell in love with a woman and they are still dating.

I also know a guy who trooned out but he isn't an agp troonbian. He is bisexual but likes women way more than men and he is a huge flamer too but not in a creepy fetishistic kind of way.

I guess Jazz would be a flamboyant bisexual man if his parents didn't turn him into an butchered eunuch who can't orgasm never went through puberty.

I wonder if some or many of Jazz' temper tantrums & mood swings are like the ones castrati were known for back in the day because of their hormonal problems.

I don’t buy Greg/Gigi being bisexual. For a man like him, it’s more likely an eroticized form of narcissism.

I think it’s more likely Greg fell in love with his wife’s bank account, considering she’s a Getty and the family fortune is well into the billions. Natalie, his wife, is worth $30-40 million just on her own.

Jazz is dressing in drag as well. Aka, a wig and a dress and makeup. I thought this was drag??

This kid is so fucking confused.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Fucking terrifying that the surgeon was surprised that it turned out well.

Did it really tho? Srs butchers can't be trusted. Just look what Ting & Bowers did to Jazz. Even if Noel didn't get butchered THAT bad, the fact that the surgeon was apparently surprised about the result (or more like pretended to be when in fact it's just another horrible hack-job) isn't a good sign.

But remember hacking off kids genitals is helping them somehow. Dr. Mengele would be very proud.

 

[AnOminous]

Did it really tho? Srs butchers can't be trusted. Just look what Ting & Bowers did to Jazz. Even if Noel didn't get butchered THAT bad, the fact that the surgeon was apparently surprised about the result (or more like pretended to be when in fact it's just another horrible hack-job) isn't a good sign.

It's alarming that quacks are being encouraged to perform bizarre, irreversible experiments on kids like Jazz, with so little idea of how they'll actually turn out that they're openly surprised by the results, since it's shit that's never been done before and had no need ever to be done, to anyone, much less a minor.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

It's alarming that quacks are being encouraged to perform bizarre, irreversible experiments on kids like Jazz, with so little idea of how they'll actually turn out that they're openly surprised by the results, since it's shit that's never been done before and had no need ever to be done, to anyone, much less a minor.

It's like Dr. Frankenstein screaming: "It's alive !!" when his horrible human experiment is a "success".

Ting, Bowers etc. created an artificial opening in teen boys bodies by flaying their genitals. Their monsters are alive. But at what cost?

 

[lololololagain]

Genuine question for the audience, and I suppose it's more focused on the lady kiwis: How would you negotiate with Jazz in a social setting?

The various transgirls on the show are each at various stages of 'passing', but mentally and in terms of body language, would you perceive Jazz as "male in disguise" or "Female with terms and conditions"?
I get this is sort of a TERF talking point, and on that end I'm conflicted, because while the reasons Jazz isn't authentically feminine have been thoroughly documented, nothing masculine really jumps out at me either.

to be honest, I'd just think he was female,, in real life I have MTf friends who are "normal" so I just treat them like everyone else because unlike social media troons and TRA they don't want special treatment. I don't treat my female friends "female" or my male friends "male" they are just my friends. If a troon passes or not, I treat them normally unless they do some freaky shit.
I woudn't clock Jazz if I didn't know he was trans(duh) but because I know I do see the man in him, it just doesn't jump out like it does with most troons. Maybe because Jazz is so childish , I guess the weight helps him because when he was thinner he looked more like a man.
I've met trans peope who JUST wanted to be treated normally, and there's this push to have them be treated abnormally or like special men/women where the normal rules don't apply, like rejecting them, sexuality, how we raise our childern etc.

I'm a raging angry bitch on here at times, but truth be told, I just don't want children to suffer, I don't want them in our sports, taking titles from women/men, I don't think they should have "special treatment" because they are these fragile beings that'll kill themselves if I dare think they aren't what they say they are.

so if I didn't know I'd assume by looks he's a chubby lady and treat him as i treat everyone, if I know i'd feel bad for him (because his fucked up parents, body and life) but treat him the same unless he started acting weird.

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I'm reading about Noelle and sadly I don't see him being here very long, he seems deeply unhappy and I agree with people saying he's unlikeable, I think he's a case of just wanting to be anyone but himself, trying to get as far away from himself as possible. I can see him not being able to live with not being seen as a real girl and his other issues . Worst thing is they'll blame everything but him transing out when it happen. He does not seem happier, they'l try to focus in everything but this dream he was chasing because god forbid the media criticizes how transing out isn't 100% the best way to go.

 

[Behavioral Sink]

I have to go out on a limb here and disagree with the folks who find Noelle unlikeable. I'd far sooner be friends with Noelle than Jazz. He seems like a more rational, realistic, level-headed sort of person overall. A bit messed up over the whole school shooting thing, perhaps. May not pass very well. But he seems to be smarter and more down to earth than most troons. Probably still a bit of a depressed headcase, but again, not nearly as bad as Jazz or the other attention-seeking types.

 

[Free the Pedos]

I have to go out on a limb here and disagree with the folks who find Noelle unlikeable. I'd far sooner be friends with Noelle than Jazz. He seems like a more rational, realistic, level-headed sort of person overall. A bit messed up over the whole school shooting thing, perhaps. May not pass very well. But he seems to be smarter and more down to earth than most troons. Probably still a bit of a depressed headcase, but again, not nearly as bad as Jazz or the other attention-seeking types.

Now that you mention it, Noelle doesn’t have that air of being used to getting their own way that Jazz has.

 

[Muttnik]

I have to go out on a limb here and disagree with the folks who find Noelle unlikeable. I'd far sooner be friends with Noelle than Jazz. He seems like a more rational, realistic, level-headed sort of person overall. A bit messed up over the whole school shooting thing, perhaps. May not pass very well. But he seems to be smarter and more down to earth than most troons. Probably still a bit of a depressed headcase, but again, not nearly as bad as Jazz or the other attention-seeking types.

Noelle is the kind of troon that would make every waking second spent with him completely depressing. Even though he didn't go on the hormones as early as Jazz, he's still on them pretty early. His maturity is now stunted and he will never escape his late teens for the rest of his life. He will constantly remind you of his trans status, police the things you're allowed to find problematic, and will never give anything emotional to people that doesn't involve his own gain. That's what happens when you troon out as a teenager who has not become a full person yet.

Is Noelle as bad as Jazz? Probably not. But that doesn't mean he's not unpleasant. Every time he's on screen he's being a massive downer.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Every time he's on screen he's being a massive downer.

Are you impling yeeting off his genitals didn't make him happy & cure his dysphoria forever? Herecy!

I wonder how Jazz' other "friends" are doing. Remember the troon group full of boys who never went trough puberty where one 15 year old guy loked like he was 9? One of them was supposed to get srs.

 

[Dorsia.Reservation]

Remember the troon group full of boys who never went trough puberty where one 15 year old guy loked like he was 9? One of them was supposed to get srs.

Mengele wasn't this successful in any of the alternate history novels where Germany wins WW2!

 

[Mako_Spark]

I normally like to do a supplementary recap with funny highlights to @Alto's original but this episode just didn't have much that you could laugh about. It's all just so incredibly sad. I honestly wonder if Jazz's crazy stress and panic reactions and bizarre 'copes' (crying, literally unable to recall/voice the words of the song he'd written, "oh a dark closet, good I can hide here" - it was literally 'trapped in the closet' for old South Park fans) were because he either consciously realises it's all been a horrible mistake for him and he doesn't want to 'succeed' and raise the money so Noelle can get mutilated the same way, or his subconscious is screaming it at him and his aware self is just spinning out doing everything it can to drown out the noise... I really think he's becoming somewhat aware, and all this anxiety/self-sabotage is serving a purpose for him...

I've seen it before with friends and family, the body/mind finds a way to say NO, NO NO NO NO NO THIS IS NOT OK ANYMORE and eventually there's a breakdown and (with appropriate help and support, which sadly I don't see Jazz getting) the person finally comes to terms with what every cell of their body is trying to tell them... maybe I'm just too optimistic, but Jazz's 'anxiety' appeared every time he had to do something towards making Noelle's fundraiser work... something in him is screaming 'I don't want (even my shitty, jealous, depressing, 'frenemy') friend to go through the same torture and regret I'm going through,' and you can see it, it's visceral, it's in his bones... I hope.

Also - this episode isn't just sad, it's rage-inducing... Jazz is clearly not okay. We know he's not a good actor. His panic and stress is real. So fuck the producers of the show for 'creating more drama' by having 'Peppermint' the drag queen agree to host the fundraiser, then pull out at the last minute (sending Jazz into a genuine spiral) and then SURPRISE! he showed up on the day... I know television, I know the industry, the producers would have set all that up just to create some drama for the show (and as I said, jazz is a shit actor, I don't believe he was 'in' on the plan one bit, his meltdown was real - which is fine when you're dealing with adults who know what kind of crazy manipulation they're in for when they sign up for 'The Bachelor' or whatever, but Jazz is not well, he is mentally fragile, he is 18 but for all intents and purposes he is still mentally a child... fuck them, seriously. It was a stupid and dangerous thing to do given Jazz's current mental state and it just proves no one gives a shit about this kid and they are actively encouraging the breakdown we're seeing in his mental health for ratings... I've been in 'the industry' a long time and honestly, this 'storyline' made my blood boil. So irresponsible...

The kid is not okay. He's clearly reckoning with some big realisations, and he has no healthy coping mechanisms... it's become a horror show.

(I won't even get into straight men and women appropriating drag for the fundraiser when Noelle actively dislikes drag because he (correctly) thinks it often makes a mockery of real women... and as for the 'performances' - walking up and down a catwalk, no singing, no dancing, not even lip synching... WTF?) Also as a Bowie fan, Jazz's aborted original song about 'a person from the stars who comes to earth to say your biological sex doesn't matter, do whatever you feel expresses your true self even if that means taking things normally associated with the opposite gender, it's 2020 and we're all free to do that!' - Jazz, David Bowie was about 50 years ahead of you with the same message, and a million times more talented... literally, there's 'Starman,' and 'Ziggy Stardust' (from Mars) and at least a half-dozen songs of his with pretty much the same themes I can think of off the top of my head... how could he not know about David Bowie, who helped make 'gender-bending' more acceptable to the mainstream and even something of a trend? Does Jazz honestly think he's the chosen one and no one has come before him with practically identical ideas? Argh!

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

- Jazz, David Bowie was about 50 years ahead of you with the same message, and a million times more talented... literally, there's 'Starman,' and 'Ziggy Stardust' (from Mars) and at least a half-dozen songs of his with pretty much the same themes I can think of off the top of my head... how could he not know about David Bowie, who helped make 'gender-bending' more acceptable to the mainstream and even something of a trend? Does Jazz honestly think he's the chosen one and no one has come before him with practically identical ideas? Argh!

To SJWs, it's always Current Year and any story idea that pops into their head is a landmark, "never been done before" event, (even if it's been done hundreds of times before for decades already.)