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Coronavirus: Dozens trapped as China quarantine hotel collapses


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About 70 people have been trapped after a hotel being used as a coronavirus quarantine facility in the Chinese city of Quanzhou collapsed.

At least 32 people have been pulled from the rubble of the Xinjia Hotel, officials say.

Videos posted online show emergency workers combing through the building's wreckage in the southern province of Fujian.

It is not clear what caused the collapse.

It happened at about 19:30 local time (11:30 GMT).

Chinese state media says the hotel was being used as a quarantine facility monitoring people who had had close contact with coronavirus patients.



As of Friday, Fujian province had 296 cases of coronavirus. Meanwhile 10,819 people have been placed under observation because they have been in close contact with someone infected.


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To put into context my prior message about how spain's probably already treating your asshole boomer neightbors. Here's an anecdote from a few days ago. My SAS Union contact told me (while chuckling like crazy) about how a "celador" (basically like the guys in charge of asisting the nurses, literally the lowest "wipes arses, changes bedsheets and cleans rooms" job in healthcare) went to the union LIVID demanding they made some kinda protest against healthcare turism, and told them it was because a family of britbongers had turned up at the hospital, speaking not a single lick of spanish, the grandpa had the most blatant signs of a renal infection so they put him on list to check that shit, now the boomer himself not that much of an issue but the rest of his family basically refused to leave his room, expected full service like this was some kinda hotel, demanded to ALL be tested for corona "just in case" even though not one of them exhibited even a cold, the mother kept using a fucking stick to interact with the hospital staff, the children were, well, insuferable entitled little children, and the father kept calling him Manuel no matter how many times he corrected him, which neither the celador or union understood but made me cackle my sides into orbit because it means either the father was self aware but didn't realize the language barrier and cultural differences made him come off as an asshole or he was quoting Faulty Towers unironically while leeching off of our system and I don't know which is more British.

Point is, this is far from a weird occurence, so at this point if you're nice people and have even the most basic understanding of the language medical personnel will probably be happier to be dealing with you, at least it's not the usual spectacle. So don't be afraid to abuse spain's lax policies, every damned asshole in your country is doing so already, might as well treat the good ones too at this point.
 
I wonder just how the hospital systems around the world are going to be able to handle the flood of people coming in for testing once this thing really starts rolling. The early symptoms of Wu Flu are the exact same as the early symptoms of seasonal infuenza and the common cold. How many people are infected with the cold virus every single day? Those people are going to consider getting tested as well, or even convince themselves they got the dreaded plague and head for the emergency room.
 
Chinese Hotel collapses while being used to house the infected.



U.S Navy Personnel in Naples tests positive.



And there goes Seattle.





Edit: All the Boomers at work are now talking about stocking up. Little to no discussion a week ago. They have chosen a fantastic time of the year to roll out new system updates force everyone to come to work and be on site.
 
I see two chimps, one is hoarding toilet paper, the other is being a typical animal.

I can't say that if I needed a pack of toilet paper for my family and some selfish, panicking person had taken every last pack needlessly for themselves that I wouldn't also stop them. I mean, would you go back to your kids and tell them to use their left hand; or spend the week washing crap-covered towels because of that person's selfishness? I mean the only real difference I can see between how that woman is acting and myself is that I'd probably do it more elegantly in just lift a packet from her trolly as I went by before she knew what was happening and then I'd already have it. Or you could complain to the manager and ask him to intervene which I think most managers would.

But "typical animal"? Shame on you if you'd just stand there and take that sort of behaviour from the hoarder woman.
 
Is it expensive?
I dunno. It's probably like any other american hospital, good insurance will go farther. But if you are that sick and it is your life in balance I would rather be there than many of the other local hospitals like Evergreen Health. UW is host to cutting edge science and is affiliated with research labs. The other hospitals don't have those resources as readily to hand.
 

All those people praising China for its artificial growth are strange.
Also throw in the blind faith in infinite growth that means it's not enough to accept a guaranteed small return, it has to increase every year..... globalism did indeed replace religion for a lot of people, the Cult of the Market making them believe that increaseing human misery is a noble goal if the side-effect is bigger market shares and wider profit margins on stocks.

Horseshoe Theory is right again. This Neo-Globo-Capitalism is as bad as Luxury Space Communism in that regard, "The lesser people must die to feed the advance of the almighty system"

Fukiyama and Marx being on the same team is a weird timeline tbh.
 
Total amount of cases in the Netherlands is at 188 atm. I heard that the north of the country will be expecting hundreds of students returning from Italy very soon...

There was a notice posted at my workplace about how none of us should worry about seeing empty shelves for the coming few months. That there are plenty of products, supplies and materials stored and there hasn't been a shortage of anything yet.
Odd, since I noticed that it's taking much longer for my department's replacement iphone screens to finally arrive.... :thinking:
 
The biggest thing I've noticed since this broke in the mainstream in the past week or two is the mixed messaging. Shit, I even see it ITT. You have people declaring it's over, it's a nothingburger, everyone is panicking for no reason and the media is hyping up for ratings. Then you have ramping up of shutting shit down, escalating plans for dealing with it, etc. And we're not even at 2/1/20 China timeline yet. It's hard to tell who to believe.

It puts me in mind of 9/11. The absolute shock. I went into practical mode right away that morning, withdrawing a couple hundred from the ATM and worrying about how to get home. But in a week the planes were flying again, baseball games were happening, stores were open. Gas spiked for a couple years as did patriotism and security theater/surveillance but beyond that it was far from TEOTWAWKI. So is this 9/11 again? Will we be back to normal by 4/1? Or will there be more cancellations of events, domestic flights, quarantines through summer and beyond? A real change in how we live in America and the world in general? I honestly don't know. I do know I was immediately surprised by how fast panic manifested in Italy and then here.

I do still lean towards what I thought back in January--the actual rate of death will be low, and the average bear has little risk of infection, but the real danger will be economic. Because the supply chain is in many cases several months out, we will see the true effects in late summer and fall with empty shelves in stores, store closures and layoffs, stocks tanking for realsies. Even if the infection is largely subsided.

If factories can be moved or China is truly back to work as they claim, we might have a decent Christmas, but I have my doubts. They are trying to say it's subsiding in China, but I still believe there will be another mass wave as the formerly quarantined are let back out and jammed into factories and offices. I still predict at least a 2008/9 level recession if not Depression.

Ah yes, social order might be in danger, better secure some extra soft toilet paper to wipe my bum.

I am absolutely amazed by humanity's love for TP. No food? Fine. Can't wipe my bum with nice soft TP? I'm gonna riot, bitch!

That's way beyond autism if you're asking me.

I am amazed by the people who mock and shame folks buying TP/sanitizer/bleach "instead of food."

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You do realize for a lot of people this isn't some zero sum game with a binary choice of "TP or FOOD" right?

I went out and bought 2 giant packs of TP. I'm not home a lot, so honestly each one is like a 1.5 year supply. So worst case I don't buy TP for 3 years. It's not filling a room or anything like an ep of Hoarders--it chills in my storage room with the paper towels. I bought 3 mos worth of long term food and a month of water (I have really good muni water that tests good and tastes like bottled with a cheap filter and I don't think it will get shut off anytime soon). All this "massive prep" fit in my kitchen cabinets with room to spare.

Now I spent probably $50 on the TP, and yeah I could have bought food. But if I wanted $50 more of food I could just...go and buy $50 more today? It's not like that was my last General Grant I was dropping on Charmin.
 
I can't say that if I needed a pack of toilet paper for my family and some selfish, panicking person had taken every last pack needlessly for themselves that I wouldn't also stop them. I mean, would you go back to your kids and tell them to use their left hand; or spend the week washing crap-covered towels because of that person's selfishness? I mean the only real difference I can see between how that woman is acting and myself is that I'd probably do it more elegantly in just lift a packet from her trolly as I went by before she knew what was happening and then I'd already have it. Or you could complain to the manager and ask him to intervene which I think most managers would.

But "typical animal"? Shame on you if you'd just stand there and take that sort of behaviour from the hoarder woman.
I'd ask that animal politely. No need to chimp out over toilet paper. Also there's more than a few places to get them. If some whore took all from store A, go shop at store B.
Also here's a hint, Asian grocery stores usually stock tissue paper, use that instead, it's actually softer too.

I can't imagine getting that triggered over toilet paper.
 
I wonder just how the hospital systems around the world are going to be able to handle the flood of people coming in for testing once this thing really starts rolling. The early symptoms of Wu Flu are the exact same as the early symptoms of seasonal infuenza and the common cold. How many people are infected with the cold virus every single day?
They dont let people with flu into medical centers in germany. they have to stay out and speak to the doctor from outside. later they will be tested if there is the faintest possibility of Corona. you dont need a doctor to do the test, they can do it themself.
The Test is pretty cheap and needs no work from a doctor, so its not a big deal.

the problem in the US is a very bad system, so they need ages to do the test.

All those doomsayers are wrong, there will be no revolution or mass riots, people will just vote out the people who killed grandpa by not shutting down airports early enough. It kills elderly people who dont work anymore, thats not bad for the economy in the long run.
 
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Two Chinese families arrived in Beijing from Italy, 4 of which carried the virus, they are residents of Italy and does business there.
They used medicine to suppress fevers and swelling, and they breached China's virus prevention laws... they are now being taken care of and will be prosecuted for intentionally hiding the illness, thereby putting the entire flight at risk.

Can't just visit a hospital in Italy? I'm sure Italian hospitals are friendlier than Chinese ones.


Holy shit the hotel:
"Early reports suggests the hospital roof collapsed due to comprised structral integrity due to a large amount of bat nests."
->>>"Due to a large amount of bat nests"
->>>"Bat nests."
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We'll have to wait for an official response. There's also people claiming that construction workers knocked down some wall compromising structural integrity.
 
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Two Chinese families arrived in Beijing from Italy, 4 of which carried the virus, they are residents of Italy and does business there.
They used medicine to suppress fevers and swelling, and they breached China's virus prevention laws... they are now being taken care of and will be prosecuted for intentionally hiding the illness, thereby putting the entire flight at risk.

Can't just visit a hospital in Italy? I'm sure Italian hospitals are friendlier than Chinese ones.

But do they have a TCM specialist department?
 
I mean, the coronavirus is bad for the economy, but can be pretty good for the average working man, assuming he survives the outbreak. To hearken back to the Middle Ages, when the black death rolled across Europe and wiped out a third of the population, a lot of wealthy lords found themselves without enough peasants to work the farms they had. What happened was that these lords actually had to offer the remaining peasants better conditions and higher payments for their work, to encourage their peasants to stay and the peasants of other lords to come work their fields instead.

I imagine that if the coronavirus ends up being as destructive as the black death, we'll end up with a labour shortage, which indirectly benefits the working classes. It would mean that employers would have to offer competitive wages and hours. Plus, it also means that housing prices will potentially drop as well. Every cloud has it's silver lining and all that.
 
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Two Chinese families arrived in Beijing from Italy, 4 of which carried the virus, they are residents of Italy and does business there.
They used medicine to suppress fevers and swelling, and they breached China's virus prevention laws... they are now being taken care of and will be prosecuted for intentionally hiding the illness, thereby putting the entire flight at risk.

Can't just visit a hospital in Italy? I'm sure Italian hospitals are friendlier than Chinese ones.
When I say the Chinese are cockroaches and rats, they continue to prove it’s a true statement.

People will hate the chinese for years to come over them spreading this disease.
 
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