Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Well, just tried to do a little grocery shopping. Normally, the middle of the day isn't busy. Today, everyone is out panic buying food now instead of just toilet paper.

Tried normal location, King Soopers.
No potatoes:
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No meat:
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Then I went to Walmart and saw much the same thing.

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Meat area:
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I stocked some food, but not a lot. We have some frozen ground beef and canned food (corn, and chili), and plenty of rice.

Also at Walmart, they appeared to be keeping the toilet paper in the back, just inside the big entrance to the back and were handing it out to people one at a time. King Soopers had a sign outside about limiting water to one gallon I think, but inside I saw some spics loading up a cart with water. Pretty sure they didn't make it outside.
IT'S NOT IN THE WATER SUPPLY, STOP BUYING WATER YOU FUCKING MORONS. Guess what? It's also not in the meat supply so stop buying all the fucking meat.
This is exactly what happened at the supermarket near me. And for reference, I live in a small Ontario Canada town where there's been no confirmed cases yet.

All the perishables had mostly been taken, but for some (?) reason there was a shit ton of lettuce and celery still left...... Kinda what I expected from the fat fucks here.
 
Mom and Sister were on a conference call today with their company. If they get they have to take a weeks vacation and if it longer than that apply for short-term disability. Not sure if that's legal but the company they work for does shit like this all the time. Not to mention ones a manager and the other the district manger of a gas station chain so they are in constant contact with the public. Thank god I can work from home.
 
People who've used leaves, report they're far inferior to toilet paper. It's not the 'softness' but the texture. Like why newspaper is preferable to glossy mags. Smooth surfaces just spread everything around worse and leave you dirtier. They will take my TP from my cold, dead hands.
Pff. Amateurs.

If in a pinch after chunkin one out then moss is the superior alternative to leaves. It's everywhere, contains iodine which'll keep ya pucker nice and clean, and is soft.

Reindeer moss works well too, doesn't have iodine like moss does but it is a great at Killin germs because of its inherent acids. Hell, it can deal with staph. Always good to tuck that nugget away. Great source of carbs in the wild too, when not used as nature's bog rolls.
 
This is exactly what happened at the supermarket near me. And for reference, I live in a small Ontario Canada town where there's been no confirmed cases yet.

All the perishables had mostly been taken, but for some (?) reason there was a shit ton of lettuce and celery still left...... Kinda what I expected from the fat fucks here.
Yeah, fruit and veggies looked ok, except for potatoes. Milk was hit and miss. Eggs were still good stock at KS, but walmart looked low. I'm mostly pissed because I wanted to get some potatoes.

Oh and most of the frozen shit that was low at KS was pizza and I'm not even sure at Walmart. That pic was 1 of 3 frozen aisles at Walmart and they all looked about the same. KS was a bit better with frozen stuff.
 
I have a relative that's an ICU nurse, and she gets a lot of info from the "front lines" in New York. Here's what she's said:

- New York/Brooklyn situation is disintegrating rapidly. Hospitals begging people from around the country to take up shifts.
- Hospital shifts are lengthy, stretching thin
- People in their 20's and 30's in the ICU for Coronavirus
- "We have eight young patients dying"
- People attempting to/successfully stealing wall units of hand sanitizer
- N95 masks under lock and key
- National Guard being sent to areas around the country
- "Family visitors in hospitals are being hysterical. Entering COVID rooms without PPE, stealing supplies, getting into physical fights with staff"
- California readying hotels for emergency COVID hospitals

Can't 100% confirm, but these are from trusted sources, according to the relative.

Once this leaks out, if true... be ready.

Same is happening in Europe. Italy is increasingly seeing people below 30 needing respirators, and my local hospital got broken into last night. Hand sanitizer and N95 masks got stolen. Organized crime selling on the black market seems the most likely.
 
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There’s no actual cure yet. Unless you have a vaccination on hand that kills the virus, herd immunity is the best policy.
 
Mild powerlevel but oh well, I picked up the Wu Flu and am now quarantined. So is my wife because she's probably infected. Luckily we're both not feeling too bad.
Best of luck fellow Kiwi.

Update on my workplace: we’re getting our temperatures tested every time we clock in now and if we’re at 100.4 or above we are sent home immediately. Convalescent homes don’t fuck around, thank god.
 
Is there yet any reason to believe cases of re-infection aren't extremely rare flukes? If enough people get infected, every once in awhile that's going to happen. Doesn't make it a standard feature to expect from the thing.

Considering America and Canada are sitting on very low recovery numbers because they have a two or three negative test results in 24 hours expectation before calling someone 'cured' I still believe that other places where recovery is jumping is more they get well enough, but will probably still test positive for a while after ie. re-infection isn't the result of re-infection at all but actually that they maybe pulled a false negative and/or they're still 'infected' but no longer experiencing symptoms as the body fights off the last of it but they need the space for other more serious cases.

I have a relative that's an ICU nurse, and she gets a lot of info from the "front lines" in New York. Here's what she's said:

- New York/Brooklyn situation is disintegrating rapidly. Hospitals begging people from around the country to take up shifts.
- Hospital shifts are lengthy, stretching thin
- People in their 20's and 30's in the ICU for Coronavirus
- "We have eight young patients dying"

- People attempting to/successfully stealing wall units of hand sanitizer
- N95 masks under lock and key
- National Guard being sent to areas around the country
- "Family visitors in hospitals are being hysterical. Entering COVID rooms without PPE, stealing supplies, getting into physical fights with staff"
- California readying hotels for emergency COVID hospitals

Can't 100% confirm, but these are from trusted sources, according to the relative.

Once this leaks out, if true... be ready.

Again, being young does not exempt you from diseases it only makes it less likely because your immune system is still in decent shape at those ages. Be it this, the regular flu, anything. There will be outliers and there will be young people who have immune problems that they didn't know about, they smoke or they vape, or they came from somewhere where they had preexisting lung damage, etc. There's too many factors to take into account that makes hearsay commentary from _____________ family member who works in medical anything other than hearsay commentary. The whole fearing mongering because muh young people! needs to stop and people in the medical field should know that's the case with anything.

"Family visitors in hospitals are being hysterical. Entering COVID rooms without PPE, stealing supplies, getting into physical fights with staff"

As someone whose spent a lot of time in the wards where they keep the dying in the last few years. When people are sick and dying a lot of loved ones react in this way. This is just how some people deal with their powerless-ness, worry, and grief. It goes for any disease. Covid would arguably increase that reaction because it'd come on so quickly.



On the Canada front. I live in the maritimes and everything is going into lockdown in a slow trickle, we have I think one presumptive case in one province and there's a possibility of 8 more in another- given how things are changing I'm guessing those 8 may just be known to be positive and the reaction of shutting everything down is because these organizations have already been informed of that. It started this morning with all the extracurricular and sport organizations. It's looking highly likely schools will also close in the maritimes. The government has now stated that all travel outside of Canada should be limited to only essential, whatever that means, but I guess Treudeau's wife testing positive finally brings it home to him that this is serious and that Canada has a small enough number of cases that we could possibly stop it getting really bad here.
 
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There’s no actual cure yet. Unless you have a vaccination on hand that kills the virus, herd immunity is the best policy.
Theirs only 2 policies atm. Either herd immunity, or literally shut everything down for nearly two years. Guess which one will be more deadly? The one where no food is grown, no meds are dispensed, it's unfortunate but herd immunity is all we got.
 
Is there yet any reason to believe cases of re-infection aren't extremely rare flukes? If enough people get infected, every once in awhile that's going to happen. Doesn't make it a standard feature to expect from the thing.


I was reading some research back at the beginning of Feb, and this was a known thing even back then. Also if you have read a lot of reports of this 'thing' from across the world, it's pretty much a feature and not a bug.

It's safe to say with all the many reports that it does re-infect people. Some of whom had it very bad, only to recover, then die a few days later.

Doesn't mean it will happen to everyone or the majority or whatever percentage, but it's a known thing and no one will have the exact figures until we're a bit further ahead and real scientists can read more accurately from the data set.

It's also said to be transmissible for something like a month after people have been given the all clear, in extreme cases. So not just re-infecting the person who had it but others as well who think they are safe.

It's a sneaky little fucker.
 
I have a relative that's an ICU nurse, and she gets a lot of info from the "front lines" in New York. Here's what she's said:

- New York/Brooklyn situation is disintegrating rapidly. Hospitals begging people from around the country to take up shifts.
- Hospital shifts are lengthy, stretching thin
- People in their 20's and 30's in the ICU for Coronavirus
- "We have eight young patients dying"
- People attempting to/successfully stealing wall units of hand sanitizer
- N95 masks under lock and key
- National Guard being sent to areas around the country
- "Family visitors in hospitals are being hysterical. Entering COVID rooms without PPE, stealing supplies, getting into physical fights with staff"
- California readying hotels for emergency COVID hospitals

Can't 100% confirm, but these are from trusted sources, according to the relative.

Once this leaks out, if true... be ready.
The hospital near me has the nurses locking up masks and gloves too. I would say I was surprised that people fighting the staff but I've heard tales of NICU nurses in Philadelphia having to deal with heated situations involving the mom, the boyfriend, and the baby daddy, and that was before there was a virus was all over the place.
 
So, church services are cancelled, and all AA meetings have been made unallowed in public spaces.

So i guess we can officially call this "worse than the black plague"

They didnt shut down church services for that or the spanish flu. Which ended up helping destroy the religious opposition in the mexican and Russian revolutions
 
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