Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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9 more now, making the number of detected cases 93. And it will grow as right now 4414 tests have been made with over 1500 during the last 24 hours. (Talking about Poland).
That's more than 1500 tests since yesterday, bet Poland is entering triple digit cluster phase by the next submission.
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Democracy Dies in Darkness seriously wants you to know there have been 3 cases tested among guests at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. Despite most of the article having nothing to do with the resort and the resort being mentioned in a single paragraph and most having to do with the economic relief bill he and the House agreed to.

Live updates: Third Mar-a-Lago guest tests positive for coronavirus; Pentagon halts domestic travel

"Acting Brazilian ambassador Nestor Forster, who sat at President Trump’s table Saturday night during a dinner at Mar-a-Lago, has tested positive for the coronavirus, the embassy said Friday night. Forster is the third person who visited the president’s South Florida resort last weekend to test positive for the novel virus. "

 
H1N1 wasn't asymptomatic.

It's also entirely possible we don't know something they do. For example, apparently when Trump mentioned AIDS during one of his press conferences, the science types looked EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

There are rumors this permanently damages your immune system, permanently damages your lungs, and can turn men sterile. Oh, and it's asymptomatic, which means you can be a spreader and not know you have it until it's too late, and early reports out of China before the information lockdown became pretty much complete suggested some people were asymptomatic until they literally just dropped dead, which means for some people their immune systems just can't fight the Wu Flu at all.

Those are rumors. We will take it with a grain of salt. The younger people who have contracted it that I have heard on the news about are already recovered. No ICU stays, no need for a ventilator to help them breathe. That is not the way it was for the other two viruses.
 
The only ones that fucked over Italy and by extension the rest of Europe was Italy itself. The virus wasn't taken seriously by Italian authorities until hospitals started becoming full of people. The only countries that have taken the virus seriously from the beginning are China and Japan. In Japan, there have been reports of infected people since early January. They took the necessary measures and precautions, coupled with their citizens exercising basic civism. The result is they're as of now one of the least affected countries, their economy isn't completely paralyzed and Japanese people can lead practically normal lives, while European countries have no choice but to enter lockdowns one after another despite only having had the virus for less than a month.
The fault here is 100% on European governments and their citizens.
Italy closed the airports to flights from China in the last week of January, while the rest of Europe blithely continued to keep theirs open and calling us paranoid. We hadn't official cases, yet. The first infected was discovered the third week of February, and the government decided to red zone the town he lived in and quarantine and test all the people he came in contact with. A friend of mine, who has a relative who lives in Germany, on 23th February wrote me that in Germany no precautions were taken, because the virus was treated as "a normal flu". and that they considered us crazy. Idem in UK and the Nederlands. The measures we took were judged disproportionate and motivated by panic. We always took this shit seriously.

Anyway, we can't leave our homes, but honestly I don't even want to leave, it's just too depressing. Today I came out of my lair to buy a newspaper, and while I was driving home I saw queues outside banks and grocery shops, because they can't allow too many people inside. As I said, depressing.
 
I'm a nurse. There are definitely a lot of dummies in the field, and anyone who goes into it thinking it's easy (it's not) and pays well (it doesn't) is in for a rude awakening, which is probably why a lot of people burn out of bedside nursing pretty fast.

It's a shitty job. Sometimes literally.

It does pay pretty well if you move to CA which, well, that's why I have trouble hiring anyone. Every RN flees FL immediately.
 
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Is this real?
The newpaper in question has daily in it, and 郵報 means post... so it's the "Daily Mail" I'm guessing, known to be shit.
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So the outlet is called "MailOnline"?

This is getting ridiculous. From intentional/unintentional bioweapons, to it originating from some USA military base, to dah jooz, now it's autistic aliens playing their own version of "Plague Inc".
April's Fools is in 2 weeks FFS.

I have discovered the autistic alien:
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Panic buying is in full swing in Western PA. Predictably, all major chains had no toilet paper- people were trying to compensate by buying up kitchen towels and napkins instead so those are also very low. Costco had placed limits on certain goods including all paper products, bottled water, canned products, and dry products like flour, rice and sugar. Employees were enforcing this by standing guard. All carts were wiped down before being given to customers and most employees were in masks and gloves. In four separate big chain stores, paper products were gone, rice and flour were gone, fresh chicken was gone, canned products were almost gone. Most places had all checkout lines open, which is something you never see. Despite that, all lines still stretched a mile back. People were generally more tense and on edge than usual, but no fighting yet.
 
Its these god damned hoarders who are FUCKING things up because of their single brain cell is working on overdrive.

It got boarder line violent in my local Walley World just because of that fucking mentality. When an employee went through the front door before opening time the crowd just plowed right in.

Finding that there was nothing that they could not hoard. No TP. No wipes. Bo Rubbing Alcohol. And they still ran down the isles looking and throwing stuff into their carts. And I know that some of these fucking cunts are going to try to sell this to make money.

Because 80% of the US is fucking broke. Living paycheck to paycheck.

All day long I went to several types of stores to report back up here because dumb ass shit I have been seeing about the attitudes of people. It's not good. The best word is ignorant. They put their belief in the dumb ass media and the government about the information being correct and it is not!.

ReeTardartion has settled in.
More and more stores are having difficulty stocking up because of disruption of shipping schedules. It is now hitting all of the Walley Worlds in my region. And when the stocks arrives the mob mentality immediatly goes right after the products, ripping it out of the stocker's hands.

In a 50 mile radius, there are more people where I live than there are in 5 US states put all together. I have seen the dumb ass people in my region turn into fucking Mexico/Australia/UK in their mindset. 3rd world bullshit in a 1st world population.

You do not fucking need that much bleach. TP Alcohol to get by. 5 gallons (1 cup of bleach for 5 gallons) is 20, 32 oz spray bottles of disinfectant. You are NOT going to go through 20 spray bottles a month in a standard household.

The Same goes for TP. A packet of 12 rolls of TP goes for 1 week in a standard house hold. A more very conservative method is 1 roll of TP for 2 people per day.

But people have become mindless dumb asses with some of them trying to make some money off of this. This includes price increases across the board on foodstuffs now in my region.

The people here in the US are becoming more of a danger as the virus becomes more localized. Because in this day and age the majority of people can not think for themselves and when they do try to think they think only for themselves.

Because of all of the total shit going down in my region and all of the driving done today to get a general feel on what is going on right now. I'm not going out much anymore. People are become just fucking dumb in a more dangerous level. If the virus continues and the situation deteriorates further, Theses Cunt monkey's ignorance/stupidity are going to cause major issues/violence over these simple god damn items.

It means that I'll eventually have to go armed. I've made my comments about this situation and what is happening in a major population hub. The situation has now deteriorated. I'll be now commenting on what I am going to do if and when the times comes, I'll comment when the bad things happen.

There is nothing wrong stocking up on things. I did mine slowly over a 2 month period. But it is the hoarders... the assholes... and the cunt monkeys who are panic buying are the ones making this situation far worse than they are.

I keep imagining the hoarders' homes being filled to the brim with toilet paper and Progresso soup cans.

It's unlikely that they'd have a lot of room to store six or more twelve-packs of Charmin.

I also imagine this will be heard on PBS soon: "Next on 'This Old House' - how to craft a tasteful love seat from your unused rolls of Angel Soft, and how to re-purpose those cans of lima beans that you will never eat."

They'll have more fodder for those hoarding reality shows.

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When I walked into my local Walmart to pick up some ground sirloin for taco bites at around 3 AM, the ground beef and seafood aisles had been emptied.
However, when I got to my local butcher's, they were stocked up.
 
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Agreed this is totally aburd, we're treating this as though it's black death round 2 when it's the equivelant of a shitty winter. The casualty rates are so low it doesnt even effect the population curve.

I go by the assumption that a slowing of the inevitable spread will make it more manageable for the hospital system. When it peaks quicker, because nobody gives a shit, hospitals will be overwhelmed, which they will be anyway in the course of the next 3 Months. The peak is estimated (in UK/Europe) to be within 10-14 weeks. That said, I think the US is just getting started with the spread and it shouldn't be underestimated there either.
 
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Is this real?
The newpaper in question has daily in it, and 郵報 means post... so it's the "Daily Mail" I'm guessing, known to be shit.
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So the outlet is called "MailOnline"?

This is getting ridiculous. From intentional/unintentional bioweapons, to it originating from some USA military base, to dah jooz, now it's autistic aliens playing their own version of "Plague Inc".
April's Fools is in 2 weeks FFS.

I have discovered the autistic alien:
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Sounds pretty ''batty'' to me.

Let's take a trip to reality or the Chinese food market
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Depends on where you live. I have trouble filling positions. New England is kinda oversaturated, but here we're trying to recruit nurses directly from college.

Well if you need people with studies you only gotta tell us. Spanish migrants have been keeping western european business fed for a while now and even with the recruitment drive people with medical degrees are still looking for work. I think our problems have mutual sollutions right here!

I posted a link yesterday to a Facebook group of people, some very well informed and educated, others not, who were looking for ways to DIY ventilation devices as well as other things that would be useful in a pandemic. Some of the posts were very interesting. For instance, there is a discussion going about a 1994 patent for allowing a single ventilator to be used for multiple patients.

It really interests me how many of these super old things are being floated in discussion; some very old medications, too. I swear I walked by someone talking about iron lungs yesterday.

In my country, the celebrity/extremely wealthy to normal person ratio of infected is such that I can only assume that the barn door has been open for a very long time

Speaking of resurrecting old therapies, I wonder if serotherapy has been considered? Does anyone here know anything about the subject?

The chinks tried. Tried is the operative word here.

And those folks will be successful at bringing this event to a solid and satisfactory conclusion unlike anything Stephen King has ever done.

To be fair the Myst and the Shining had some great conclusions. Oh wait no, that was the films!

This is the tl;dr of US pandemic laws.

The federal government can do whatever the fuck it wants to anyone, including US citizens, that come in from outside the US if it has reason to believe they pose a danger. Yes. They can move you to a military base and put you under armed guard.

Within the States, the State governments can do the whole armed guard thing and they can even go so far as send the national guard to your home, cuff you and move you to a FEMA camp under armed guard.

Their is case law on this and it to this point only deals with State level actions. Basic takeaway of it all is the State must show it is acting in good faith and there is an IMMEDIATE danger to the public. If both those criteria are met your State can do pretty much anything it wants to you if it serves the interest of halting the disease.

Fucking hell and you muricans claim to be more free than europeans? Over here that shit isn't allowed until we get to sitio level, and as the name implies sitio is declared at the point at which part of the country is under enemy control (sitio literally means to be under siege)

It's worth considering, but I don't think it matters.

Mortality is probably higher for a certain demographic but there's no explanation for why. Any information we get right now would be a guess, and probably a bad one.

The thing that concerns me most is Africa. There are not a lot of reports out of there. One could be an optimist and believe the higher temperatures and increased humidity is keeping the virus at bay. The reality is the ministries of health are probably not doing a good job tracking what's happening.

0.6% lethality in the west is a tragedy. 0.6% lethality in africa is drinking water. They won't notice it.

There might be an uptick in sex, but unless the supply of birth control runs out that doesn't mean there will be an increase in babies. In fact, with the economy going into the toilet, we might see an increase in contraception use.

And for now here's some extra fun to make your day a bit better starting with a relevant one. Here's a stand showing the space where the TP should be. Next to it we see the condoms. Yeah baby boom incoming.
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And here we got another master prepper:
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And here's some anti-theft measures for the most important thing nowadays.
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Be a hero. Cough like batman!
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Translation of the video. "Helena! I'm going to mercadona! Want something? I'll get what I see."





And translation of this one: "Day 1 after quarantine. I already ate all I bought."

And finally an example of the Basque cleaning their hands.




 
"I was going to give you a nice reply back until you made fun of me"

Yeah, sorry dude, but this shit really angers me.

When people think of the world ending, they get an idea of preppers dancing with glee saying, "Fuck you, I was right!"

But let it be known to normies that's not what it feels like at all.
I don't look at empty isles and feel superior or a sense of pride that I got there two months in advance. I feel nothing but anger. Anger that people didn't care enough to do the bare minimum. That's ALL you need to do.
All you needed to do was give a shit enough to do basic prep just in case something like this got worse. I feel anger at man's stupidity in lacking, as your sign says, common sense.

No shit people are going to take advantage of you when you run out of shit. Why wouldn't they? Hell, you could get four rolls of toilet paper for a dollar at the dollar store. Why wouldn't I sell that shit for a higher price? People are always going to take advantage of you in dire situations. It's almost human nature.
The fact I kept trying to tell people I cared about this and they just rolled their eyes makes it incredibly frustrating. And they STILL get angry when I keep trying to tell them to stock on shit like vitamins to keep their immune systems up when there's still shit there.

The biggest threat of a virus is and will always BE people. THAT is what you need to prepare for. You SHOULD'VE prepared against that bitch taking all the toilet paper from Costco and the fact that you didn't leaves no sympathy in my heart for you. You're not angry at her, you're angry you weren't there five minutes earlier to BE her.

Copy and paste this shit.

There's been people in this thread being genuinely happy about this.
 
Those are rumors. We will take it with a grain of salt. The younger people who have contracted it that I have heard on the news about are already recovered. No ICU stays, no need for a ventilator to help them breathe. That is not the way it was for the other two viruses.
So I guess I'm curious, when did you first hear about this? The last 100 pages of this thread are people complaining about people panicking over this.
 
Sounds pretty ''batty'' to me.

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That's not Chinese. Chinese "food markets" don't sell bats. This is a myth that I originally believed as well.
It's the Indonesians that consume bat meat, which is considered a delicacy in China but very popular and common in certain regions of Indonesia, at least from what I've heard. Your image for example is from here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-05/20200130_092814.jpg/11928242
 
H1N1 wasn't asymptomatic.

It's also entirely possible we don't know something they do. For example, apparently when Trump mentioned AIDS during one of his press conferences, the science types looked EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

There are rumors this permanently damages your immune system, permanently damages your lungs, and can turn men sterile. Oh, and it's asymptomatic, which means you can be a spreader and not know you have it until it's too late, and early reports out of China before the information lockdown became pretty much complete suggested some people were asymptomatic until they literally just dropped dead, which means for some people their immune systems just can't fight the Wu Flu at all.

Well there are recovered people, and if there weren't people recovering, or getting better and staying better, they wouldn't be able to hide it no matter how much they tried. So who knows. Did that Indian research paper get debunked or retracted?
 
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