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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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So you want dictatorial powers unless it results in freeing the darkies?
Did you mean to type horrifying?
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First off, it takes a while to become infected, and show symptoms. So for all we know, a whole bunch of homeless are positive or soon to be positive. Maybe the quarantine measures are effective so far and the homeless are not catching it in droves, because people who are infected are either working and socializing with everybody except for the homeless, or they are at home.
Homeless are people too. Many will succumb, but a lot will carry on. Why is homelessness a death sentence with regards to COVID, anyway?
Also I haven't been following the homeless COVID issue so the real answer to your question is I Don't know.
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YesSo you want dictatorial powers unless it results in freeing the darkies?
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Lookner losing his shit after Trump's press conference (profanity, spittle)
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I think the greatest problem I am seeing in this thread is a huge serge of exceptional individuals over the course of the last week. It's all realistically conjecture at this point. If we would of just thought preemptively and idk CLOSED THE FUCKING BOARDERS when the outbreak of Wuhan first occured, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. The American approach is to automatically defer blame to Trump, despite the fact that a constitutional republic doesn't work on one centralist fuhrer. It's a collective of governors that you fuckers elected that should be doing anything in their power to make sure the infrastructure doesn't implode. The hot spots are going to be the densest per capita, and the sanctuary cities where all the niggos and dog eaters live. The R-factor is debatable, but it's either that this R factor is so fucking high, and a billion people already have it, and it's actually a super weak virus. Or, it's R factor from what I've observed based on my own modelling would be 1.2 < R < 2.6. More would likely be a solid 2.3 in my guesstimate.
The death rate is starting to lag behind the 17% growth I've predicted, so I guess the earlier countries who quartined might be making somewhat of an impact on that. But, testing has been abysmal, but any nerd who's ever worked in a chemistry environment knows that testing, and for that manner actually developing a viable testing method takes months. Didn't help that the cunts at the CDC testing methods where so awful that they where producing false negatives, which with these off brand testers THIS CAN HAPPEN. I'm all cutting red-tape for experimental treatment options if the patient really has no options left (likely to die anyways), but testing is not something you want to fuck around with. I don't think 56 million china men are dead either, China is good an censoring shit only to a degree. A bunch of keyboard warriors in the West can break their bullshit Chinacom wall and get the data. Cut out the doomer shit and look at the regional statistics and make your own models on that data. Clearly the media is overblowing this thing for their own ratings and political agendas as usual. One more point too that I forgot, you can't let the entire economy collapse either, because we are living in one of those globalist social experiment deals right now I am beginning to think. Feels like a fucking movie I am living in at this point, this timeline is bonkers. HONK HONK.
The death rate is starting to lag behind the 17% growth I've predicted, so I guess the earlier countries who quartined might be making somewhat of an impact on that. But, testing has been abysmal, but any nerd who's ever worked in a chemistry environment knows that testing, and for that manner actually developing a viable testing method takes months. Didn't help that the cunts at the CDC testing methods where so awful that they where producing false negatives, which with these off brand testers THIS CAN HAPPEN. I'm all cutting red-tape for experimental treatment options if the patient really has no options left (likely to die anyways), but testing is not something you want to fuck around with. I don't think 56 million china men are dead either, China is good an censoring shit only to a degree. A bunch of keyboard warriors in the West can break their bullshit Chinacom wall and get the data. Cut out the doomer shit and look at the regional statistics and make your own models on that data. Clearly the media is overblowing this thing for their own ratings and political agendas as usual. One more point too that I forgot, you can't let the entire economy collapse either, because we are living in one of those globalist social experiment deals right now I am beginning to think. Feels like a fucking movie I am living in at this point, this timeline is bonkers. HONK HONK.
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Not disagreeing with anything but where dyou figure China's zucced 15 million people?
I asked about 100 pages ago what the *real* figures could be from Iran and China, and I've tried googling, but it's total radio silence from the Middle Kingdom
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Restarting the economy this early, when the virus has been proven to be asymptomatic for up to fourteen days? When the CDC says that it lasted up to seventeen days on surfaces?
The US is just as desperate to maintain their image as China is. They've tried throwing money at the problem, that hasn't worked. Now they want to force the economy to start up again, when all evidence points to needing a long-term shutdown.
This is going to be a terrible mistake. Not only will it not restart the economy, it'll spread the disease in an even greater capacity than it did before. We have no confirmed treatments for it. Congress is more interested in partisan bullshit instead of finding a common ground. Now we're planning on sending thousands of workers over the hypothetical trenches to potentially die just because they're afraid the economic bubbles will burst.
I thought America would be better than China in their response. Perhaps I should've been more cynical. We're fucked.
The US is just as desperate to maintain their image as China is. They've tried throwing money at the problem, that hasn't worked. Now they want to force the economy to start up again, when all evidence points to needing a long-term shutdown.
This is going to be a terrible mistake. Not only will it not restart the economy, it'll spread the disease in an even greater capacity than it did before. We have no confirmed treatments for it. Congress is more interested in partisan bullshit instead of finding a common ground. Now we're planning on sending thousands of workers over the hypothetical trenches to potentially die just because they're afraid the economic bubbles will burst.
I thought America would be better than China in their response. Perhaps I should've been more cynical. We're fucked.
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Carry on as usual. It is always like this. These are politicians. This is what they do. They make everything so damn complicated.
China lied and for whatever reason WHO and others believed it. Maybe the situation in South Korea made the numbers seem plausible. Maybe nobody wanted to think it was that bad.
Then they started seeing first hand what was happening. Italy surpassed China in deaths. Wait... what? How does that make any sense? Meanwhile China is sitting over there, saying "wow, that's so weird! We didn't have it nearly that bad! All our cases are under control and the only problem now is travelers bringing it back from dirty foreign countries!"
Every time I see stats for cases, deaths, and cured, I crunch numbers. Sometimes I get the official 3% number - actually a little higher, 3.3% or so. Sometimes it's lower. But sometimes I see bigger numbers. 6%. 8%. 10%. There are hints; a report from Italy of mayors claiming deaths are four times what is being reported. China having a drop in phone numbers of 21 million. The people on the ground screaming that it's worse than anyone said. The media slowly shifting the goalposts, claiming over and over experts are caught off guard and the r0 is actually higher. Maybe the true death rate really is 3% with perfect care and the 8%+ rate is only when hospitals become too full, but if the reality is everyone knows the hospitals will be too full, isn't 8%+ pretty much the "true" death rate?
My opinion based on what I've read is that the death rate will be between 5% and 13% and that the r0 is 3, if not higher, which has been reported some places (I guess China claimed it was lower and the WHO went with that at some point). Obviously I'm not an expert on anything, I didn't even know what r0 WAS three weeks ago. I just have been trying to figure this out and listening to what people are actually saying, looking at numbers myself, and assuming most of the official numbers and all China numbers are overly optimistic and that governments and the media have a strong interest in lying and damage control (more on that below). It seems like generally, early on, when the best treatment is available, the numbers are low. When SHTF the rate goes up.
It doesn't help that the countries involved have a vested interest in making it seem like the other guy has a much worse problem than they do. You don't want to admit to your rival that you have been decimated. And countries don't want to admit to their populace the truth and get people panicking and asking what is wrong with their country that the other guy over there is doing just fine and has everything under control. So we keep hearing on the ground that everything is worse than expected even though there should be plenty of "test cases" and "models" by now. But instead we keep hearing stories about how the numbers don't make sense.
I'd like to hear more about what you heard personally btw. Maybe I'm overreacting or looking too much at worst case scenarios.
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I cannot imagine homelessness improving your health. There’s also an increased amount of drug use as well as feces everywhere, which would facilitate the spread of Coronavirus.
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When did the Nostalgia Critic start shaving?
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The smartest thing they can do is propose an alternative bill that is dead simple and promote it to the US as a simple,s traightforward relief bill.
Let the democrats REEEEEE
Rinse and repeat. Every time this happens fewer democrats are going to be willing to vote against it as public pressure turns against them. The GOP just has to play its cards right and force the dems and media to twist the most basic bills into literally hitler, and publicize the republian straightforward bills on the likes of facebook to get normies on board. Keep taking away democrat talking points until all they have left are ISMs and ISTs. Eventually they will fold.
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Yeah totally get it. But even if all of LA's 35,000 homeless were to be infected by tomorrow, it would still take time for them to be sick enough to roll into the local ER.
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Please. My eyes. I can’t stand that hag. God, she looks like something that crawled from the laboratory of a mad golemancer.
With COVID-19? Based on everything I’ve seen, pneumonia, cardiac arrest, febrile seizure, viral sepsis, multiple organ failure, cerebrovascular disease, medullary disease, and/or viral encephalitis. All are possible with this virus.
China is unbelievably disgusting. You have no idea, do you? Their PM2.5 counts are often in the area of 300 to 500 or worse in their major cities. The air must be pre-chewed. Also, their tap water has high coliform counts in Wuhan. They could’ve easily had SARS-CoV-2 running out of their taps in that godforsaken city, simply from the sewage runoff of COVID-19 victims tainting the Yangtze. Gives a whole new meaning to eat shit and die.
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Protip: When you upload a video click on it and select Alignment->None
Also if this guy gets it, don't give him an ICU bed! No ICU bed!
Another pro tip is when uploading images delete the full-size image it puts in and replace it with the thumbnail so people who don't want to see the full image don't have to download it. Xenforo 2 has IMO the wrong defaults for both of these.
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I can't believe how many cowardly doomsayers there are in this thread pretending they're being enlightened and even-keeled. There were 60 million infected and over a million killed by the Swine Flu and the world didn't end. This panicked response of quarantining everyone in the country and shuttering all businesses is bringing the country to its knees, not the virus. It's better to let more people get sick and keep the country going than struggle in vain to stop the spread of a virus that's mostly concentrated in places like NYC and watch the economy completely collapse in a way that could leave it scarred for a decade. Trump prioritizing the economy and trying to get things reopened as soon as physically possible is the right move.
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I don’t know how your going to enforce mandatory quarantines without putting martial law on people. Believe it or not people want to work and getting some of the workforce back is better than making people poorer as jobs are lost due to inactivity. I’m tired of the all doomsayers who want all of quarantines to continue indefinitely. People will not put up being cooped up for months.
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The homeless live in filth, have awful diets that are nutritionally lacking and often consist of literal garbage, and are constantly exposed to the elements. All of these things reduce the effectiveness of the immune system. The lack of proper nutrition is going to make them prime targets.
Drug use is the norm among the homeless. Any drug related to heroin is going to suppress the respiratory system, a death sentence with coronavirus. A fetanyl overdose will be near 100% fatal in a corona patient. Other drugs are going to drive up heart rates or result in manic behavior, which in someone with corona+pneumonia can cause a heart attack, especially in someone whose heart has been weakened b continued drug use.
Most homeless people are not mentally sound, lack access to emergency services, ece. If a homeless person in a pipe has corona and can barely get up, how is he going to call an ambulance? Most stumble into emergency rooms, most who have corona barely have the energy to walk to the kitchen and back. Many are so out of it they wont recognize pneumonia symptoms until its far too late.
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