Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Slap47]

Ya think? Ya think?

WHO chief's questionable past comes into focus following coronavirus response

The Ethiopian official, who was elected to lead the WHO in 2017, has been accused of cozying up to countries like China that have pledged millions of dollars to the agency.

I knew that but holy fuck... the rest of the article is about him being part of a genocidal tribal government.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Not sure if this was posted yet:

BBC News (World) on Twitter

“Mexicans demand crackdown on Americans crossing the border https://t.co/izwx6Qj5FI”

twitter.com

So that happened

Don't let them back in

 

[Abradolfus_Linclerson]

When a mozzie bites you, it injects saliva, not blood from it’s previous blood meal. Pathogens carried by mosquitoes are transmitted via their saliva not by regurgitation of blood. So the virus has to be cabable of not being digested in the mozzie stomach, and infecting the mozzie itself so as to be present in the saliva. And mosquitoes have immune systems too of course.
Never say never (life finds a way and all that) but mosquito carried illnesses are not often respiratory. I’m struggling to think of any off the top of my head where the main symptoms are respiratory in nature.

It's not a certainty but I'd mark it as probable. Depending on viral losd required for a good infection to happen and concentration of virus in blood there are viri which transmit less from blood than from snot. These tend to be viri which wreck the respiratory tract (and possibly the digestive) but leave other organs alone.

Thing is, we've seen vertical transmission and it seems it affects the heart so it's safe to say it is infective via blood. It is the norm anyway. Though it's not certain since as we've seen corona requires larger droplets so it does need a large viral load, and mucus/snot concentrates the virus compared with blood. So maybe it's not too bad. But honestly taking into account what mosquitoes from tropical areas carry and how said mosquitoes are migrating north due to climate change I'd say corona ain't the most worrying thing there.

EDIT: NEVER MIND I FORGOT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLOOD TRANSFUSION AND MOSQUITO TRANSFUSION OTTERLY JUST WRECKED ME WITHOUT KNOWING IT. Answer's still "probable" as opposed to a "certainty"hough.

Okay, so odds of Corona-Chan having a...reservoir? in biting buggers are slim. Thank you, by the way, for reminding me of a half-remembered lesson on malaria being a "spread due to skeeter spit" disease. I appreciate the info!

Follow up question/hypothetical:
Consider a Bay-Area fly who, in the course of doing its fly thing every day, comes across a Corona-pozzed bum loaf in the streets because let's face it, there's no reason not to assume the crazy druggie demographic of the Bay Area's homeless population doesn't have it. The fly does...whatever flies do when they find a nice fresh fragrant bum loaf and land all over it, getting Corona-Chan all over their fly feet and fly mouth parts and fly body as they take off and land repeatedly and stir up bits of loaf and Corona. Now consider the fly making its way into a bodega whose door is open to enjoy the nice weather (or whatever the corner stores that the various "Law and Order" shows call corner stores in NYC). I guarantee you that the fly will not be noticed before it has landed and deposited its Corona-pollen somewhere, potentially important. What about that as a mechanism for spread? Am I being too much of a sped because of how this virus shows up in all the things humans shed - has this sort of transmission likely always been a thing that existed?

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Okay, so odds of Corona-Chan having a...reservoir? in biting buggers are slim. Thank you, by the way, for reminding me of a half-remembered lesson on malaria being a "spread due to skeeter spit" disease. I appreciate the info!

Follow up question/hypothetical:
Consider a Bay-Area fly who, in the course of doing its fly thing every day, comes across a Corona-pozzed bum loaf in the streets because let's face it, there's no reason not to assume the crazy druggie demographic of the Bay Area's homeless population doesn't have it. The fly does...whatever flies do when they find a nice fresh fragrant bum loaf and land all over it, getting Corona-Chan all over their fly feet and fly mouth parts and fly body as they take off and land repeatedly and stir up bits of loaf and Corona. Now consider the fly making its way into a bodega whose door is open to enjoy the nice weather (or whatever the corner stores that the various "Law and Order" shows call corner stores in NYC). I guarantee you that the fly will not be noticed before it has landed and deposited its Corona-pollen somewhere, potentially important. What about that as a mechanism for spread? Am I being too much of a sped because of how this virus shows up in all the things humans shed - has this sort of transmission likely always been a thing that existed?

Corona survives for a certain number of hours in surfaces. Technically so long as they can grab and deposit enough material flies can carry it, but they won't expand its lifetime, if anything the added friction and separation would reduce it. So in areas with A FUCKTON of unchecked insects that'd matter, but not on most areas.

 

[MCLOS Horthy]

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Anyone who says shit like this is racist should be strapped down and force-fed a live Chinese AIDSCancer bat.

 

[FunPosting101]

https://archive.vn/dOFJ1

Yeah. That genie is never getting back in the bottle.
This is not about a stupid virus at all.
Climate change? Oh, you're on lock down until ___ target is met. BTW we'll cut off your power for a bit to reduce load.
Socially disagree with this? Lockdown!
Oh, you're worried about your jobs? Your job isn't essential, you just earned yourself a lockdown!

This is my main concern about all this quarantine stuff and the various emergency powers local governments are seizing. When this crisis is over something, I'm not sure what, but something needs to be done to ensure that the various state governments cede these emergency powers and open their states back up.

 

[feral cat #6385]

You want to have riots? This is how you get riots.

Spoiler: Sperging again, tmi, yada.

i tried quitting January 1 with the patch. By the 3rd a coworker bought me a pack of smokes.
Its probable that the act of smoking is infecting people, due to hand->face all day long. Plus the damage to lungs etc.

I'm fairly certain that testing is being held back due to pressure from corporations that don't want to loose income. They are telling workers in nearly every industry that they are essential.

I put this shit in a spoiler because I need somewhere to rant. The Canadian government is worried about foreign aid during a global emergency. If we don't have the PPE or equipment to fight this properly, why should we be worrying if foriegn powers get paid?

I just got a phonecall I've been dreading. The RCMP found my sister dead in her hotel room. I'm waiting to hear from my bro, who is waiting on the coroner. We were waiting for this to happen, she was a drug user for a long, long time. I haven't seen her in a decade. Still fucks my head up. Fucking hard drugs man, not even once.

What worries me about COVID is that it seems to be hitting people that may have had no idea they even had a condition until COVID put their body under stress. My local PHL (Public Health Nurse, usually does vaccinations etc) and I were talking about what viruses can cause damage to other organs, back when the flu shot for 19-20 was out.

I wasn't aware that pretty much any virus left unchecked can cause organ damage that won't be noticed until the body is put under intense duress. Strep throat especially is known to cause cardiovascular damage, and we consider that to be a minor virus most of the time.

I tried quitting Jan 1 with the patch and gum and succeeded. Haven't smoked since Dec 2019. Haven't wanted to. THIS VIRUS ADDED ENCOURAGEMENT TO QUIT FOR GOOD!

Picture you are sucking a tiny little Chinese cock every time you put a cig in your mouth.

 

[cuddle striker]

well I'm officially quarantined.
no test yet. unless I get symptoms. we have someone on the floor we work on who popped up with fever and is up in the ICU now.

I'm all right with this, our PPE was low. reusing face shields is doubly unpleasant when you're cutting into lung tissue all day. the freezer will be a nightmare when I get back though, I know this.

exelcsior!

With all the talk about New York and LA being under siege, thought it would be good to point out where the deaths are actually happening. Places that voted against Trump in 2016 are the hardest hit, with Louisiana being the outlier. And poor Michigan, you deserve better.

The Spanish had a saying, a closed mouth gathers no flies. Indeed.

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those states are not testing. people there are dying of this already; medical systems already overwhelmed. but they're lying on their results-
little China, right here in the USA.
watch them. this week is a wave breaking.

two weeks will be a tsunami. plenty people are ready for Easter church in those states. I'm not happy to know what will happen after that.

those states are also the ones with no ACA expansion, too- less people even going to the doctor at all. they rely on the ER for all their care. not good. there are less hospitals, less ICU, less everything there. I feel bad for people trying to stay safe in those areas.

local ground report;

our numbers are going down for now because of stay-home orders and business closures. in about two weeks we will see a big bump from the people that were exposed up until that happened. (Washington state)

it takes up to 21 days to get sick and die; look for death tallies in three weeks for a better picture.
they've been putting everyone prone for a while now. raised the survival rate a little bit.
weaning from the vent is all I hear people talking about in the rest of the hospital.

doctors here are now diagnosing based on sign and symptom. thick mucus with fibrous quality and at least three of the six main symptoms- it'll get diagnosed covid 19. not enough tests, still.

stay home. stay home.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Question to all of you: How many comments have you read from your countrymen which still downplay the whole thing and basically say "We can't live like this anymore, we have to open up everything and return to our jobs." ? How can people be this dense?

I know a newly minted MD, and just a few weeks ago, she was reposting those articles downplaying Corona chan's might, comparing it to TB and seasonal flu. The Eugene Gu tier shit. A few days after that post, the number of cases surged, and now she's full on happening mode.

Perhaps it was a cope knowing she'd be among the grunts that have to deal with the WuFlu when shit hits the fan? Or perhaps youthful folly not understanding things like logistics burden and supply chain effects despite low relatively lethality rate?

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British culture is all about being exceptional for a long time and then having a "finest hour".

The absolute state of some people.

On the ban of consumption... what's to say they simply won't lift it sometime later when no one's looking?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

This is my main concern about all this quarantine stuff and the various emergency powers local governments are seizing. When this crisis is over something, I'm not sure what, but something needs to be done to ensure that the various state governments cede these emergency powers and open their states back up.

I can almost guarantee they won't and they'll cite the "seasonal" nature of the China Aids. Once they have power they won't want to let go of it easily.

 

[Abradolfus_Linclerson]

Corona survives for a certain number of hours in surfaces. Technically so long as they can grab and deposit enough material flies can carry it, but they won't expand its lifetime, if anything the added friction and separation would reduce it. So in areas with A FUCKTON of unchecked insects that'd matter, but not on most areas.

And a great big thank you to you for your insight. I'm glad that at least the advent of bugs everywhere (in the northern hemisphere, anyway) will be unlikely to worsen Corona-Chan's march across the globe.

 

[Ow The Edge]

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"It's also erasing cultural practices and the history of China ie why people had to resort to some of those foods."

That's a good point. Why did they resort to eating anything that moves?

Spoiler: I'll Give You One Guess

 

[jje100010001]

Tldr China sells """donated""" items and surprise, most of it is garbage

Another thing to keep in mind when hearing about how much the CCP/Jack Ma (aka the CCP)/"Chinese People's Business Associations" (aka the CCP) donated compared to the rest of the world. It's amazing how much of their actions can be traced back to 'saving face' or pure crab mentality. Any country would be a fool to continue to treat post-pandemic relations the same as before.

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1243130671218012160 (Archive)

Edit: And also remember that other countries were stripped clean of medical equipment by corporate arms of the CCP, while they and the WHO downplayed the severity of the issue.

A Chinese government-backed property giant has secretly raided in bulk Australia’s supplies of masks, hand sanitiser, antibacterial wipes and essential medical supplies and shipped them back to China.

The Greenland Group, which manages high-end real estate projects in Sydney and Melbourne, proactively drained Australian supplies of anti-coronavirus equipment, The Sydney Morning Herald reported.

Three million surgical masks, 500,000 pairs of gloves and bulk supplies of sanitiser and wipes were bought up in Australia and other countries where Greenland operates.

While the bulk purchases and shipping were perfectly legitimate, the goods shipped in bulk to China include the very items that have been in short supply for Australian citizens as well as health professionals.

They were accumulated at Greenland’s Sydney headquarters and sent to China over weeks in January and February.

Category: | The Courier Mail

www.couriermail.com.au

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[It's HK-47]

A reporter was asking Cuomo what Trump meant by saying that they'd "Found ventilators in a storage facility." and Cuomo said that information was "Incorrect and grossly uninformed." After that, he goes on to clarify that the ventilators are in stockpile, because the hospitals don't need them yet. Now... I'm not a fancy wordsmith and all, but what exactly is the difference between a storage and a stockpile?

You know, the easiest answer might be that Cuomo was lying this entire time.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

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British culture is all about being exceptional for a long time and then having a "finest hour".

lol but they can sperg for hours about europeans destroying native americans because of no germ theory.

 

[Slap47]

"It's also erasing cultural practices and the history of China ie why people had to resort to some of those foods."

That's a good point. Why did they resort to eating anything that moves?

Spoiler: I'll Give You One Guess

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They actually ate weird exotic shit before the cultural revolution.

China has had alot of famines in its history.

 

[Lurker69]

Another plague ship, more than 1800 people on board:

Four dead on Carnival-owned cruise ship amid new coronavirus outbreak aboard

The Zaandam is now at least the third Carnival-owned ship to become the site of a coronavirus outbreak.

www.cnbc.com

http://archive.is/za6hd

The ship’s passengers and crew were barred from disembarking in Chile and struggled to find any open ports amid the coronavirus pandemic. The company said the ship is now en route to Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

 

[Cat Menagerie]

Wow, government, thanks for the paltry amount of expired equipment, very cool.

Federal PPE supplies for Oklahoma come in short and expired

OKLAHOMA CITY (KFOR) – The Oklahoma State Department of Health has only received a small percentage of PPE equipment requested from a federal stockpile to date, and everything that was sent i…

kfor.com

http://archive.li/wQezO

 

[jje100010001]

Another plague ship, more than 1800 people on board:

Four dead on Carnival-owned cruise ship amid new coronavirus outbreak aboard

The Zaandam is now at least the third Carnival-owned ship to become the site of a coronavirus outbreak.

www.cnbc.com

http://archive.li/za6hd

The ship’s passengers and crew were barred from disembarking in Chile and struggled to find any open ports amid the coronavirus pandemic. The company said the ship is now en route to Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

The ship departed Buenos Aires on March 7 for a voyage that was meant to end in Chile on March 21. While the ship was at sea, Holland America “made the decision to suspend its global cruise operations for 30 days and end its current cruises in progress as quickly as possible so guests could return home.”

You'd think the Diamond Princess would already be a cautionary tale...

 

[captkrisma]

On the ban of consumption... what's to say they simply won't lift it sometime later when no one's looking?

Can't eat wild animals if you breed them for consumption!