Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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The article you linked has this little treasure

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So we've been lied too since the beginning and everyone should be wearing masks and respirators because the chances of picking it up from surfaces is small but getting it from aerosol and droplets is significant?
Of course they don’t want the sheep buying PPE. They can sell it to .gov for triple the price. Price gouging only applies to the little guy.
 
I have kept up with the thread, but after 1162 pages Im not sure if this has been posted before or not. A helpful site for daily updates and alerts for Australian farmers

Australian Department of Health

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(Good to see someone has been archiving this page daily too.)

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https://www.covid19data.com.au/ is also another fantastic page, run by volunteers using the health department's stats.
It shows where the virus has come from - most cases are the people coming from overseas, there's really not a whole lot of community transmission.
I also suggest Australian's read the DoH's action plan.

The only reason Australian cases are going up, is because we've been repatriating 1000's per day. I think Thursday or Friday saw 7800 people coming back into Australia. All those people are locked down. Screeching about it, but fuck them. Do your 14 days in a 4 star hotel and shut up.

The media keeps saying "cases are soaring", but they're cases that are only coming from overseas travel. That's in line with containment.

WA, VIC and Tas are going OTT because they have labor governments who want to look like they're doing everything perfect, whilst shaming NSW. But at the same time, refusing to acknowledge that most people live in NSW and it's the main hub for international travel. Global business wise, every thing is in Sydney. Literally no one gives a shit about the rest of Australia, of course there's more overseas travel.
 
I am very deeply aware that my pretty cool job only exists because our base needs are provided by our American heartland, and I try to visit frequently and support local businesses.
Many of my coworkers are afraid that middle America is racist, which to me is bizarre; it’s nowhere near as bad as the rumors in California make it out to be.

Racism is everywhere. I've dealt with it on so many levels. Sometimes it flares up to unmanageable levels, but the American Midwest or the Southeast does not have a monopoly on racism and bigotry. And the coasts are not anywhere near as "enlightened" as some pretend.

Racism-related incidents seem to arise everywhere.
 
So from the various sources we are getting in this thread, the Chinaflu is somewhere between Spanish Flu, and Biblical Hell? Everyone seems to have their own spin on it. Maybe it's the fact the doctors are only getting serious near death cases that changes their perspective. Because if I felt sick now, I'd not go near a hospital. I'd be too worried about waiting with 100 other people that might have the real chinaflu and then get turned away because im not the right diagnosis.

This is way old in a thread moving this quick but I see this a lot right now "I heard.." or some circumstantial evidence for that this virus is basically Captain Trips because a younger person died. You see lots of people commenting everywhere that act like they're specialists about this virus just because they keep F5ing the news like everyone else. On the scale it has spread, it's not surprising that people from all ages develop critical outcomes. It's completely normal. Other diseases do that too. You always have to consider that it a) it looks more and more like this thing has been around for a while, pretty much anyone with any say in the matter is saying this and b) for an Order of magnitude (please look this term up if you're not sure what it means) of people more than people who went critical, this went over like the common cold and they never even saw a doctor for it. These are the people that don't even show up in statistics. To be frank to you, I am probably one of these people. I had all the commonly now noted symptoms beginning of march. I'm still here and writing to you and I feel perfectly fine. I never went to a doctor. There's no statistic I'm in. It's very likely that I'm not the only one posting here.

It's really hard to grasp the numbers that are talked about here intuitively and they're quite scary. It's also really scary that the thing is just deadly *enough* (but not deadly enough to depopulate entire countries as in Stephen Kings aforementioned book) to swamp medical systems that were not built for pandemics. Then you have the 24/7 news machinery that talks about nothing else, although this pandemic just simply doesn't produce enough information to really fill these 24/7 with relevant stuff. So what do they do? They repeat stuff alot. They report on small details making them look really important in a sometimes confusing manner. They go on endless tangents that really sometimes distort the overall picture. "papers" that barely deserve the name without any filter as of the relevancy, are presented as gospel in a confusing, machine-gun fashion. They basically make the same points we all know about over and over. Repetition ad nausea. People get scared and they panic and that's bad. Then there's people online that give anecdotal information with no connection to it's actual factual accuracy, making the entire thing even more confusing and scary than it already is. Happens even in this very thread.

Yes this is pretty bad. Yes you will see case numbers go up as you will see the body count going up in the coming weeks. The Wuhan Coronavirus is a thing now that is shaping the world forever and no, this won't be over in a while. When you read this, it's also more likely that you're in some place that's locked down to some degree, at least if you ask the local government, than not. That's scary too.

You're not doing anyone any favor by obsessing about it and panicking though. I can tell by reading the posts in this thread that for some of you, your anxiety is probably through the roof. Some people here are breathlessly repeating points they heard "somewhere" then others pick them up and repeat them to the same people back and then both sides get more excited as they see their alleged "fact" confirmed and post themselves in a frenzy. It's like a social virus and it kinda made me stop visiting this thread.

Some of you would really do well to limit news to 15-30 minutes a day, stick to the relevant recommendations regarding hygiene and such you probably have seen a thousand times over by now and just try to calm down a bit. For people fighting with anxiety or depression, in therapy a very common strategy attacking these problems is for people to learn to live in the moment, to learn to focus on what is important right this moment for them and to learn to attack a problem one at a time in the order they appear. I'm talking to the non-medicals here, to the average kiwifarms spergs: You'll not figure out how to heal this virus by googling studies and papers. You'll not be able to do anything about the death count by refreshing pages displaying it breathlessly. Think about what you yourself can do not to catch it, observe social distancing rules then go about this day by day and just watch and see what the next weeks and months will bring. You'll make yourself feel a lot better in this difficult time and that's all what counts and you'll also help the people around you that are afraid themselves by setting a good example. I'll take my small rainbows now.
 
Some of you would really do well to limit news to 15-30 minutes a day, stick to the relevant recommendations regarding hygiene and such you probably have seen a thousand times over by now and just try to calm down a bit. For people fighting with anxiety or depression, in therapy a very common strategy attacking these problems is for people to learn to live in the moment, to learn to focus on what is important right this moment for them and to learn to attack a problem one at a time in the order they appear. I'm talking to the non-medicals here, to the average kiwifarms spergs: You'll not figure out how to heal this virus by googling studies and papers. You'll not be able to do anything about the death count by refreshing pages displaying it breathlessly. Think about what you yourself can do not to catch it, observe social distancing rules then go about this day by day and just watch and see what the next weeks and months will bring. You'll make yourself feel a lot better in this difficult time and that's all what counts and you'll also help the people around you that are afraid themselves by setting a good example. I'll take my small rainbows now.

Don't ask questions, just consume crisis then get concerned for next crisis.
 
You're on a site whose purpose is to mock people and you expect them to withhold judgment? Judgment is what this site is for.

Cuomo is threatening to sue Rhode Island for hunting down New Yorkers. This fucking guy.


Brawls between RI and NY cops when?
 
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Don't judge. People end their lives if they perceive that can not continue living for some reason or another. Brain sees the end, the hand acts based on what the brain dictates.

It is not for us to decide the fate of another, once s/he has determined that their life is over.

Please, withhold judgment.
Get the fuck off of this site while you still can.
 
Brawls between RI and NY cops when?
RI would win. NYPD is all getting the coof.
4,300 called out sick today. 1000 more then a few days ago. 700 tested have already tested positive.
A few more weeks of this plus shortages of food and a few warm days and your going to see things really kick off in NYC.

 


Looks like NY, CT, and NJ have entered in to a suicide pact.
Rhode Island and Massachusetts are laying the foundation to start cracking down on border jumpers.
Hopefully this lays the foundation for the breakup of the US. I am tired of being ruled over by coastal elites in NYC and California. One can hope.

I don't think that we can break up, although I admit, we should. We are deeply divided on pretty much every issue imaginable.

I doubt that we can break off into three or four different countries. So instead we are united in our self-destruction, like a large, overly-enmeshed, dysfunctional family.

Isn't it illegal or something? Can we hold a referendum?
 


Looks like NY, CT, and NJ have entered in to a suicide pact.
Rhode Island and Massachusetts are laying the foundation to start cracking down on border jumpers.
Hopefully this lays the foundation for the breakup of the US. I am tired of being ruled over by coastal elites in NYC and California. One can hope.
You and any other doomer in this thread would be the first to die, as would most internet speds in such an apocalypse. Just because you get a stiffie over wanting to be the Road Warrior doesn't mean anything.
 
And they vote. THEY.

Oh you mean like my partner’s Latino immigrant family living in NYC that voted...for Trump? Yes, obviously things in America are complex, but my generalizations still stand, even if there are outliers.

Anyway, the sky still isn’t falling, even if the virus is novel and something we should be cautious about.

I posted this over in the lockdowns thread, but since Cuomo’s reactions about states protecting themselves against his stupid citizens are being discussed here too...
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Yeah, he can get fucked.
 
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