Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[BipolarPon]

Personally, I'd prefer if they didn't, because Obi-Wan going to Utapau before RoTS is fucking stupid.



Maybe not with most of them, but with Gunray? Definitely.

That's probably the least concerning continuity error or inconsistency the show presented to be honest, but I understand your point.

 

[Cactuar King]

That's probably the least concerning continuity error or inconsistency the show presented to be honest, but I understand your point.

Same with them going to Mustafar really, because it's not like there's some other Separatist alligned lave world Sidious could have used.

Sullust? Never heard of it.

 

[Gallofag]

Same with them going to Mustafar really, because it's not like there's some other Separatist alligned lave world Sidious could have used.
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Sullust? Never heard of it.

Somehow the show made the galaxy feel bigger and smaller at the same time.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Technically Wendig's Aftermath story sort of does by implying he's dead-dead and that some random Wendig OC bought his helmet from some jawas who found it in the Great Pit. Disney is also very bipolar on whether or not he survived the Sarlacc, and if the rumors about him being in the Mandalorian in season 2 are false then that might mean his fate is pretty much sealed. Disney already implied that they unceremoniously killed Bossk by saying he was in Jabba's sail barge like in old canon but that there's no confirmation that he escaped like in old canon, much like with Boba's fate.

And speaking of Boba, the Disney Wars movie that was set for 2020 (as a Boba movie) and the 2022 film (Old/Hig Republic) are officially dead (although they might pull a fast one if this High Republic project proves successful, so they're probably using these crappy books and comics as some sort of test). However more details about the 2020 film (whose props and budget were re-purposed for the Mandalorian) arose a while back and it was going to be loosely based on the old EU short story "The Last One Standing" by Danny Keys. The original story depicted the first version of Fett's life before the prequels retconned it a bit and the story ends in 19 ABY with a much older Fett still alive and hunting down an old target. Although its unknown how much of this would've made it into the final film, since the Solo movie was loosely based on the Solo trilogy and Lando adventures yet only holds over an incredibly superficial similarity to the originals. But if they had at least kept the last part, then I assume they might've brought Fett back.
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The interview also confirms once again that Disney has complete ownership over the EU and its properties while old writers have no say on the matter, despite some believing that part of Disney's decision for a retcon was some copyright thing.

They ain't making a movie until Kennedy(her ilk) is gone. This seems doubly so because Iger stayed on as chairman for "creative" reasons.

Iger HATES Kennedy. He can't wait to fucking purge Lucasfilm of this shit.

I don't think he even cares about Star Wars. He just hates her so much, he wants to remove any taint from her...

Also, lets be serious: that high republuc shit isn't going anywhere but a trash bin. I was trying to save my judgement until I saw those characters(yikes)...

Mandalorian, Ashoka, and maybe a set of films after the ST are their in roads.

Pick ONE thing and work on that imo...

 

[Gallofag]

Iger HATES Kennedy. He can't wait to fucking purge Lucasfilm of this shit.

I don't think he even cares about Star Wars. He just hates her so much, he wants to remove any taint from her...

If Iger hates Kennedy so much, why hasn't he fired her? Is it to save face from investors?

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

If Iger hates Kennedy so much, why hasn't he fired her? Is it to save face from investors?

Politics of metoo at the time, and nobody really wanted the job.

Now, i think he can restructure it so that the next head of Lucasfilm is not interferring much with the creative side....

Then, he can give it a path(probably with Lucas)for a proper creative team...

 

[Godzilla@1989]

If Iger hates Kennedy so much, why hasn't he fired her? Is it to save face from investors?

The #MeToo shillers and Gender Studies professors would be furious with Iger if he fired her and launch a online tantrum so hard he’ll backpedal, just like with James Gunn.

Politics of metoo at the time, and nobody really wanted the job.

Now, i think he can restructure it so that the next head of Lucasfilm is not interferring much with the creative side....

Then, he can give it a path(probably with Lucas)for a proper creative team...

Unless if Apple goes after them at this point should their struggles continue during coronavirus, I don’t think they want her at all.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

The #MeToo shillers and Gender Studies professors would be furious with Iger if he fired her and launch a online tantrum so hard he’ll backpedal, just like with James Gunn.



Unless if Apple goes after them at this point should their struggles continue during coronavirus, I don’t think they want her at all.

I'm not worried either way(for now). If Mandalorian season 2 doesn't shit the bed, Star Wars will recover...

Those are going to be people being handed the reins..

 

[Creep3r]

Pick ONE thing and work on that imo...

If they're smart they'll stick with just the Mandalorian and do their best to distance it from sequel and nu-canon shit as much as possible and make it its own thing. But they're already starting to cross that point of no return by referencing locations, items and aliens from the nu-films, comics and Aladdin's Rebels, so the best they can do now is just not go there anymore from here on out and just focus on their own original shit, and have the stuff they've already referenced be edited out like they've unfairly done to other media on Disney+. But judging from leaks and info for the next season, the Disney references will likely only get worse.

If Iger hates Kennedy so much, why hasn't he fired her? Is it to save face from investors?

I have no doubts that Iger and Kennedy got along splendidly at the start like the aimless greedy twits that they were, but the severe profit losses thanks to her decisions, which he ignorantly trusted, have probably made Iger more disdainful towards Kennedy (honestly he never gave a shit about Star Wars or how much it was raped as long as it gave him money since the man is a business-obsessed automaton like that, so he only wanted her out went it started costing him money). Only reason he can't fire her might be related to his fear of bad press, what with journos turning criticism for Disney Wars into being no different than sexism and racism due to them believing that hating Disney Wars means you hate Kennedy aka "a strong independent woman who took something from dumb men and made it for women only". Also a long while back in this thread it was shared that Kennedy basically removed most of the old guard within Lucasfilm, so whoever takes her place will have to deal with her lackeys ruining them, also Kennedy has close ties to many powerhouses in Hollywood, including Spielberg whose influence is almost boundless in Hollywood. To fuck with her is to fuck yourself.

 

[Gallofag]

The #MeToo shillers and Gender Studies professors would be furious with Iger if he fired her and launch a online tantrum so hard he’ll backpedal, just like with James Gunn.

I don't think Kennedy is as liked as James Gunn to get that many defenders.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

If they're smart they'll stick with just the Mandalorian and do their best to distance it from sequel and nu-canon shit as much as possible and make it its own thing. But they're already starting to cross that point of no return by referencing locations, items and aliens from the nu-films, comics and Aladdin's Rebels, so the best they can do now is just not go there anymore from here on out and just focus on their own original shit, and have the stuff they've already referenced be edited out like they've unfairly done to other media on Disney+. But judging from leaks and info for the next season, the Disney references will likely only get worse.


I have no doubts that Iger and Kennedy got along splendidly at the start like the aimless greedy twits that they were, but the severe profit losses thanks to her decisions, which he ignorantly trusted, have probably made Iger more disdainful towards Kennedy (honestly he never gave a shit about Star Wars or how much it was raped as long as it gave him money since the man is a business-obsessed automaton like that, so he only wanted her out went it started costing him money). Only reason he can't fire her might be related to his fear of bad press, what with journos turning criticism for Disney Wars into being no different than sexism and racism due to them believing that hating Disney Wars means you hate Kennedy aka "a strong independent woman who took something from dumb men and made it for women only". Also a long while back in this thread it was shared that Kennedy basically removed most of the old guard within Lucasfilm, so whoever takes her place will have to deal with her lackeys ruining them, also Kennedy has close ties to many powerhouses in Hollywood, including Spielberg whose influence is almost boundless in Hollywood. To fuck with her is to fuck yourself.

Yeah but with Kennedy gone, those lackeys are powerless.

Some will jump ship, let go, or moved to other Disney divisions.

It's not going to be hard to purge them.

My guess is that Disney will promote more ILM people(to run Lucasfilm). I'm pretty sure Kennedy was fairly hands off on that side of the house

 

[Creep3r]

I'm pretty sure Kennedy was fairly hands off on that side of the house

That seems to be the case. ILM has remained mostly untouched aside from sending an art team over there who would only be involved with the films, games and some other shit I can't give enough fucks to remember. And the artists Kennedy's team sent over to ILM, like the infamous Jake Lunt Davies, are officially out of Disney as their contracts were only made to last for 5 years and 5 films. So good riddance to them. So with them out, ILM is probably secure (since its still mostly filled with the old SFX people). Lucasfilm is still horribly fucked though, and even the few members of the oldguard that remain there like Pablo Hidalgo are utterly cucked and subservient to the Kennedy & Friends mindset.

 

[BipolarPon]

Yeah but with Kennedy gone, those lackeys are powerless.

Some will jump ship, let go, or moved to other Disney divisions.

It's not going to be hard to purge them.

My guess is that Disney will promote more ILM people(to run Lucasfilm). I'm pretty sure Kennedy was fairly hands off on that side of the house

It's a horrifying prospect to see folks like Matt Porgcuck run Lucasfilm, the only old guard that is left is Pablo Hidalgo and Leeland Chee, and we all know how Hidalgo turned out. I was on board with the likes of Kevein Feige running Lucasfilm but then his bias towards Brie Larson turned me away, Jon Favreau might be our best bet for now.

 

[Creep3r]

It's a horrifying prospect to see folks like Matt Porgcuck run Lucasfilm, the only old guard that is left is Pablo Hidalgo and Leeland Chee, and we all know how Hidalgo turned out. I was on board with the likes of Kevein Feige running Lucasfilm but then his bias towards Brie Larson turned me away, Jon Favreau might be our best bet for now.

That and Feige was revealed to be the one responsible for Marvel's shittier woke ideas and for demanding the replacement of old characters in comics.

Mark Ruffalo Says Kevin Feige Was Ready to Leave Marvel If Disney Refused MCU Diversity

"Kevin wanted black superheroes, women superheroes, LGBT superheroes," Ruffalo says. "He changed the whole Marvel universe."

www.yahoo.com

Which makes me believe all those claims about him respecting SW and its history was a load of bunk, or that he has a fondness for them but its overwritten by his woker-than-thou moral compass.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

It's a horrifying prospect to see folks like Matt Porgcuck run Lucasfilm, the only old guard that is left is Pablo Hidalgo and Leeland Chee, and we all know how Hidalgo turned out. I was on board with the likes of Kevein Feige running Lucasfilm but then his bias towards Brie Larson turned me away, Jon Favreau might be our best bet for now.

Well, whatever future plans/restructuring of post Kennedy is happening right now.

We won't see the beginning result of it for at least half a year...

High Republic seems to be the last death rattle of Kennedy Lucasfilm.

A project that seems to be scaled back in a major way...

Whatever is happening I'm pretty sure Feige, Iger, Filoni, and(probably)Lucas are all shaping it. For better or worse...

 

[Flexo]

Our Boi Zack points out nobody wants Jedi Karen.

 

[Ihavetinyweewee]

Our Boi Zack points out nobody wants Jedi Karen.

It's pretty much what I have been saying: Star Wars is a boys franchise.

Not a men's franchise, a BOY's franchise. That's the target audience. That's the aesthetic of Star Wars.

It's why Mandalorian was a success. You can even have a female as your main protagonist. But, it has to appeal to that 7-13 boy demo.

You don't grab them, it's no Star Wars...

You wanna see the problem with Star Wars encapsulated? Watch the recent video of "The Star Wars Show" with some fake nerd mom showing off her dog.

That's the problem with Star Wars. That shit has to go..

Otherwise, Disney will be running around like a headless chicken...

 

[Flexo]

It's pretty much what I have been saying: Star Wars is a boys franchise.

Not a men's franchise, a BOY's franchise. That's the target audience. That's the aesthetic of Star Wars.

It's why Mandalorian was a success. You can even have a female as your main protagonist. But, it has to appeal to that 7-13 boy demo.

You don't grab them, it's no Star Wars...

You wanna see the problem with Star Wars encapsulated? Watch the recent video of "The Star Wars Show" with some fake nerd mom showing off her dog.

That's the problem with Star Wars. That shit has to go..

Otherwise, Disney will be running around like a headless chicken...

Star Wars could be a big enough universe they can appeal to women too. They could even have girl-centric segments. But you've got to have that core segment to build everything else upon that has to be boy-centric at least, all-ages appealing at best.

It calls to mind this:

Green Lantern: The Animated Series Producer Made a Comic Explaining Animation Focus Groups - IGN

Green Lantern: The Animated Series' producer explains the pros and cons of animation focus groups in an informative comic.

www.ign.com

Spoiler: relevant panels

. . .

It also helps to just write good, compelling stories.

"Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed." -GK Chesterton.

What I object to with this Mary Suedom is that it's telling children a false story. That dragons are no threat and can be killed easily.

Well they can't. They're tough and they're mean and very often you'll walk away badly injured. But you'll walk away.

Making protagonists Sues discourages kids when they come upon challenges and find them not so easily conquered. It discourages them and convinces them they're doing something wrong. Kids need to see that its tough out there, and sometimes they only way you can win is by being too damned stubborn to lose.

 

[Judge Holden]

It's pretty much what I have been saying: Star Wars is a boys franchise.

Not a men's franchise, a BOY's franchise. That's the target audience. That's the aesthetic of Star Wars.

It's why Mandalorian was a success. You can even have a female as your main protagonist. But, it has to appeal to that 7-13 boy demo.

You don't grab them, it's no Star Wars...

You wanna see the problem with Star Wars encapsulated? Watch the recent video of "The Star Wars Show" with some fake nerd mom showing off her dog.

That's the problem with Star Wars. That shit has to go..

Otherwise, Disney will be running around like a headless chicken...

Here is the way I look at it.

Traditional "female centred" pop culture aimed at girls and womanchildren is complete and total shit.

It always has been. It always will be. Everything from disney princesses to harlequin romance novels to chick-flicks to pink sparkly toys has been shit so cringe and pathetic that it makes the basest fucking pulp comic/exploitation film look like high culture. Its always been a vicious circle of hack marketing speds changing generic products to "GURLY GURLY PINK SPARKLE PRINCESS GURLY" or whatever to have them stand out, spin it as a massive marketing success when dumb boomers are tricked into paying more for them, and then enforce this mindset on every product imaginable, which has happened one way or another in every cultural field imaginable, even beyond pop culture as shit like the fashion industry demonstrates.

This has been something OG feminist groups from the freakin 60s were pointing out and advocating be dumped and forgotten, usually in favour of just adopting the same shit traditionally aimed at boys/manchildren without alteration, since that shit atleast had the lions share of worthy concepts and aesthetics and themes.

Had the woke speds within the creative industries actually had a shred of sincerity about their "EMPOWER WAMMEN!" schtick, they would have accepted this and worked to either completely excise every vestige of the "GURLY STUFF NEEDS TO BE GURLY!" mindset of dumb producers and dumber boomers from the properties they worked on or had influence over and remake it with the same mindset of ordinary/"male centred" works.

Instead, since none of them give a damn about the cause as I so often like to sperg, they demanded traditional "boy oriented" pop culture be forcibly changed to resemble the shitty ass princess/harlequin romance/chick flick/pink sparkly toy schtick that had been such a complete embarrassment to humanity, since doing so would net them not only applause from other woke morons, but the possibility of lucrative job roles as "inclusivity consultants" and the like, not to mention the prestige their "transformation of the franchise" would confer upon them.

To cut a long story short, there was far more money/asspats/status in cannibalising popular "boys" franchises than in reworking far less popular and respected "girls" stuff or trying to advocate for girls and womanchildren to drop dumb girly shit in favor of less dumb boy shit, even if these things would do infinitely more for the cause they claimed to believe in

 

[Cyril Sneer]

Here is the way I look at it.

Traditional "female centred" pop culture aimed at girls and womanchildren is complete and total shit.

It always has been. It always will be. Everything from disney princesses to harlequin romance novels to chick-flicks to pink sparkly toys has been shit so cringe and pathetic that it makes the basest fucking pulp comic/exploitation film look like high culture.

Hard to argue with success, though.