Wuhan Coronavirus - COVID-19 Analysis & Summary - This is not just fucking pneumonia. It is everything but the kitchen sink. Lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, brain, blood vessels, testes. It affects them all.

[XYZpdq]

Oh, look. They're digging mass graves in New York, now.

so what's the usual routine for digging graves there
the caption on the video says "The island is where the city buries its unidentified and unclaimed bodies. " so obviously there's a baseline to compare this to

 

[Sped Xing]

Maybe because it's a red herring and irrelevant to this discussion?

You seriously still don't understand the purpose of this site, do you? Telling us about your twisted fetishes and doxing your loved ones will always be on topic.


Why ever did you come here?

 

[Drain Todger]

The problem is that he thinks ACE-2 receptors on other organs matter, and so far have been citing the SAME study only saying that the brain has those receptors instead of explaining why it's relevant in the first place, while somehow knowing the Blood-brain barrier exists.

It's like he's trying to argue while trying to get us to make his arguments for him. It's pretty exceptional.

Dude makes a hypothesis and ASKS NORMIES TO DO THE RESEARCH FOR HIM.

I already discovered how it can avoid the BBB entirely. The process is described in a paper on SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2.

The neuroinvasive potential of SARS‐CoV2 may play a role in the respiratory failure of COVID‐19 patients (2020-02-24) [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25728]

Furthermore, some coronaviruses have been demonstrated able to spread via a synapse‐connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center from the mechanoreceptors and chemoreceptors in the lung and lower respiratory airways.

By "a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center", what they mean is that it enters the parasympathetic nerves of the lungs, and then the Vagus nerve (CN X), and finally, it enters the medullary cardiorespiratory center.

Let's see what that mouse study said.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus Infection Causes Neuronal Death in the Absence of Encephalitis in Mice Transgenic for Human ACE2 (2008-05-21) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493326/]

Examination of brain sections from mice inoculated with 3.2 or 320 PFU of SARS-CoV revealed that the dorsal vagal complex (nucleus tractus solitarii, area postrema, and dorsal motor nucleus of the vagus), critical for cardiorespiratory function, was infected in all four samples examined (Fig. (Fig.3H).3H).

When I saw these papers, about a month ago, I thought "Well, that's interesting, it looks like this virus may be able to cause dysautonomia by attacking the brain stem".

There's a name for this part of the brain stem. It's called the Bötzinger Complex.

Botzinger complex - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Bötzinger Complex has projections to

• Phrenic pre-motor neurons in the medulla[12]
• Phrenic motor neurons in the cervical spinal cord[13][14]
• The dorsal respiratory group (DRG) [13][15]
• Ventral respiratory group (VRG)[12][13][16]
• Pre-Bötzinger complex [17]
• Bötzinger complex [2][13][18][19]
• Parabrachial Kolliker-Fuse nucleus [20]

Only augmenting expiratory neurons of BötC, which are exclusively glycinergic, project to the phrenic nucleus.[21][14]

Projections to the Bötzinger complex include the nucleus tractus solitarii (NTS)[22][23] the DRG and the VRG.[24]

These hACE2 mice suffered aspiration pneumonia because their breathing was highly depressed. We're seeing the same thing with COVID-19 patients. They literally forget how to breathe.

Returning to that first paper:

The most characteristic symptom of
patients with COVID‐19 is respiratory distress, and most of the patients admitted to
the intensive care could not breathe spontaneously. Additionally, some patients with
COVID‐19 also showed neurologic signs, such as headache, nausea, and vomiting.

If you're a doctor, and you see a patient with presumptive pneumonia who "could not breathe spontaneously" without a ventilator, which one would you assume? That the pneumonia had taken out their lungs, or that a virus had attacked the part of the brain stem governing breathing?

COVID-19's heart and lung symptoms mask its neurological signs. A patient could have this thing eating away at their brain stem, and their doctor may not even know it.

You seriously still don't understand the purpose of this site, do you? Telling us about your twisted fetishes and doxing your loved ones will always be on topic.


Why ever did you come here?

Because I wrongly assumed, given the size of the Wuhan Coronavirus thread here, that these threads were basically an extension of /cvg/.

At the time, I honestly didn't realize that you lot would get so territorial over your pathetic pissing grounds.

 

[derpherp2]

I already discovered how it can avoid the BBB entirely. The process is described in a paper on SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2.

The neuroinvasive potential of SARS‐CoV2 may play a role in the respiratory failure of COVID‐19 patients (2020-02-24) [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/jmv.25728]



By "a synapse-connected route to the medullary cardiorespiratory center", what they mean is that it enters the parasympathetic nerves of the lungs, and then the Vagus nerve (CN X), and finally, it enters the medullary cardiorespiratory center.

Let's see what that mouse study said.

Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus Infection Causes Neuronal Death in the Absence of Encephalitis in Mice Transgenic for Human ACE2 (2008-05-21) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493326/]



When I saw these papers, about a month ago, I thought "Well, that's interesting, it looks like this virus may be able to cause dysautonomia by attacking the brain stem".

There's a name for this part of the brain stem. It's called the Bötzinger Complex.

Botzinger complex - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These hACE2 mice suffered aspiration pneumonia because their breathing was highly depressed. We're seeing the same thing with COVID-19 patients. They literally forget how to breathe.

Returning to that first paper:



If you're a doctor, and you see a patient with presumptive pneumonia who can't breathe on their own without a ventilator, which one would you assume? That the pneumonia had taken out their lungs, or that a virus had attacked the part of the brain stem governing breathing?

COVID-19's heart and lung symptoms mask its neurological signs. A patient could have this thing eating away at their brain stem, and their doctor may not even know it.

Ah yes a study from a chinese research firm after blasting the CCP for disinfo, and a study on SARs after saying IT'S NOT SARS REEEEEE.

Those two studies are now the de facto law on the reality of coronachan.
I will now believe everything you said and proceed to mongle your cock.
Again, sarcasm.

Thanks for wasting my time yet again, btw. And you wonder why no one reads your shit.

Because I wrongly assumed, given the size of the Wuhan Coronavirus thread here, that these threads were basically an extension of /cvg/.

At the time, I honestly didn't realize that you lot would get so territorial over your pathetic pissing grounds.

Ah yes tell us more about how you went to 4ch0ns or wherever /cvg/ is again to doomerpost there.
We certainly won't assume you were so autistic that you got assblasted by that place too.

 

[Sped Xing]

No, we're not being territorial. You are very welcome here as long as you keep being entertaining.


I just want to know what you get out of this. Thanks for answering me, btw.

 

[Assman]

Yeah. Let's get some actual academics in this thread who understand biology.

Wow, that's inadvertently the smartest thing you've said. Please invite all of the world experts in epidemiology and disaster management with whom you have consulted and analyzed the pandemic on Discord to post here instead of you in order to best educate us poor, ungrateful masses.

That should free you up to get back to your own preeminent research on MLP erotica, material science of fursuits, troon LARPing, and of course choo choo trains.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Wow, that's inadvertently the smartest thing you've said. Please invite all of the world experts in epidemiology and disaster management with whom you have consulted and analyzed the pandemic on Discord to post here instead of you in order to best educate us poor, ungrateful masses.

That should free you up to get back to your own preeminent research on MLP erotica, material science of fursuits, troon LARPING, and of course choo choo trains.

Academics please respond

is it old yet?

 

[XYZpdq]

There's a name for this part of the brain stem. It's called the Bötzinger Complex.

holy shit the literal state of the hair on that guy talking about Botzinger Z
he must be a firsthand expert in brain damage if thought that was a look to go with

 

[Drain Todger]

Ah yes a study from a chinese research firm after blasting the CCP for disinfo

Most of the actual scientific studies coming out of China are factual, scientific, and non-political. They have little to do with party propaganda.

and a study on SARs after saying IT'S NOT SARS REEEEEE.

At what point did I say "It's not SARS?" It definitely is a type of SARS. It uses the same entry receptor and has nearly-homologous genetics.

Ah yes tell us more about how you went to 4ch0ns or wherever /cvg/ is again to doomerpost there.
We certainly won't assume you were so autistic that you got assblasted by that place too.

Well, let's see. Oh, look at that.

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666 trips. Clearly, it must be true.

No, we're not being territorial. You are very welcome here as long as you keep being entertaining.

I aim to please.

 

[derpherp2]

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION MY NONEXISTENT CREDENTIALS

Yes, oh no.

I aim to please.

Please harder.

 

[SIGSEGV]

I told you guys he was a tripfag.
Come on guys, David needs help downloading a file.

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Oh, look. They're digging mass graves in New York, now.

If checking wikipedia before posting drone footage with no context is beyond you, why should anyone bother to read your text walls?

The remains of more than one million people are buried on Hart Island, though since the first decade of the 21st century, there are fewer than 1,500 burials a year. Burials on Hart Island include individuals who were not claimed by their families or did not have private funerals, as well as the homeless and the indigent.

The island is a mass-grave for the unwanted. I know you are with autism, but are you really trying to point to an uptick in dead hobos in nyc as proof of something?

 

[Fareal]

Nine times out of ten, nobody actually bothers to refute anything. All they do is invoke the burden of proof and demand more and more citations, and then, when you do actually cite your sources, they say that your sources mean the opposite of what you think. It is argumentation by means of Kafkaesque gaslighting, and it is not valid.

This is a literal description of the process of academic discourse.

Ask your discord contacts what defending their thesis was like. This is what they will describe.

It’s not done to hurt the candidate’s feelings. It’s done to improve the rigour of their thought.

 

[derpherp2]

This is a literal description of the process of academic discourse.

Ask your discord contacts what defending their thesis was like. This is what they will describe.

It’s not done to hurt the candidate’s feelings. It’s done to improve the rigour of their thought.

Make sure to ask them how utterly faggoty their version of an ethics committee is.
Dude really needs to knock off glorifying scientists like they're gods.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Don't feel bad Drain Todger. You may have failed to convince anyone here about your hysterical nonsense, but you can take solace in the fact that - going by your picture - you will be an elegant and glamorous lady as soon as you have the old meat and two veg removed.

 

[Fareal]

Make sure to ask them how utterly faggoty their version of an ethics committee is.
Dude really needs to knock off glorifying scientists like they're gods.

His bro Kevin is currently employed in a primate research lab doing deep brain stimulation.

I could hazard a guess as to why a guy who spends all day electrocuting lobotomised monkeys hangs with our bro Dave here, but I think I have all the data I need.

 

[Sped Xing]

My parents were married, so I don't know anything about chan culture. What's a tripfag?

And srs David don't get your dick cut off. That won't make your life better.

 

[mr.moon1488]

My parents were married, so I don't know anything about chan culture. What's a tripfag?

And srs David don't get your dick cut off. That won't make your life better.

It creates a unique ID so your posts can be identified across multiple threads.

 

[Drain Todger]

I told you guys he was a tripfag.
Come on guys, David needs help downloading a file.

That is not me. I have never used a trip, ever. Not even once.

Call me a sperg all you want, but don't you dare ever call me a tripfag. Even I have standards.

The island is a mass-grave for the unwanted. I know you are with autism, but are you really trying to point to an uptick in dead hobos in nyc as proof of something?

Uhh, wrong.

Video Shows Mass Burial On Site City Ponders For Coronavirus Vics

Drone footage from the Hart Island Project appears to show inmates burying coffins in a mass grave on the island.

patch.com

Video Shows Mass Burial On Site City Ponders For Coronavirus Vics | N…

archived 8 Apr 2020 19:31:49 UTC

archive.is

A drone captured video of what appears to be inmates burying coffins in a mass Hart Island grave as the new coronavirus spreads across New York City.

About a dozen detainees can be seen stacking coffins in a trench as a former inmate narrates his experience on the "Hart Island detail" in the video taken April 2 and published Sunday. The island off the shore of The Bronx was mentioned by Mayor Bill de Blasio as a possible site for temporary burials of people killed by COVID-19.

Hart Island is the nation's biggest burial ground with more than a million graves, most of which hold people who were too poor to pay for funerals or who had no family members. Rikers prisoners have long been asked to volunteer to perform the burials.

It's a temporary COVID-19 victim burial site.

This is a literal description of the process of academic discourse.

Ask your discord contacts what defending their thesis was like. This is what they will describe.

It’s not done to hurt the candidate’s feelings. It’s done to improve the rigour of their thought.

I make an argument. I advance a premise, and I provide sound evidence for the premise. Then, I come to a conclusion.

So, for instance, I argue that COVID-19 is a neurotropic disease. This conclusion is supported by the premises. Namely, that several papers on COVID-19 describe neurological manifestations, there is leaked footage showing collapses and seizures, and there are multiple experts coming out and expressing concern over the neurotropism of the virus.

I have satisfied the burden of proof. If you wish to attack this argument, you must demonstrate why the evidence doesn't actually mean what I think it means.

You can't just declare, by mere fiat, that my reasoning is faulty. This is a very common and juvenile mistake in online debates.

I could hazard a guess as to why a guy who spends all day electrocuting lobotomised monkeys hangs with our bro Dave here, but I think I have all the data I need.

Electrocution means death. The word you are looking for is shock, and even then, transcranial stimulation does not even rise to the level of a shock. It's a tiny amount of current.

Kevin McCairn's work has to do with identifying the neural circuitry involved in Tourette Syndrome and, presumably, what the homologous circuits in primate brains do.

His hypothesis is that the strange phenomena witnessed with COVID-19 victims - the spitting and brawling and rowdy behavior - is actually a neurological manifestation of the virus.

People infected with COVID-19 spit all over the place. They do it compulsively, quite possibly because the virus infects their brains and alters their decision-making processes.

 

[derpherp2]

It creates a unique ID so your posts can be identified across multiple threads.

Wait so what's the difference between namefag and tripfag?