Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

The discrimination that is being held against them is created by people who malinger DID and the therapists who enable them. I can’t think of any other disorder that’s rise to notoriety was caused by debunked cases, Sybil, Michelle Remembers, the Satanic Panic, Patricia Burgus, etc. Additionally, the fantasy presentation of the cases you see online is what gives DID its discrimination. The whole idea of DID is that it's what the child needs to survive. So yes, alters of different races, genders, etc can form, but only because it's what the child 'needs'. MultiplicityAndMe is one of the few online cases I believe because you can see how the differences were needed. All her alters are boys because she feels if she had been a boy she wouldn't have gone through what she did. Excellent representation of this theory.

Cases with different races are common in protectors because a child may view a person who is a different race to be 'tougher' than they are. I'm sure this would be seen as racism by some morons out there. There can be cases where a child feels rejected as their own race and wishes they were part of another one. Cases where a child is the minority in their school, household, or community and bullied for it may present like this. There are some systems with alters who may have been modeled after children's book characters or fantasy concepts. It's because they saw themselves as stronger with them. However, these are not common.

Introjects were a concept that was introduced with the Satanic Panic where people claimed to have their DID be 'programmed' into them. They said that their programmers would put copies of themselves in the system to reinforce it. There was the Alice in Wonderland program where they'd put themes from that story. Then you have the whole 'the Illuminati controls everything' crowd who said that common themes from Disney Films and other pop culture references were installed as programming too (you can find out a lot more about all this on the Deprogramming Wiki which is run by a so called cult survivor).

It's funny because in cases of identity disturbance we see a lot of idolization. Because of this, a person will try to conform themselves to be just like the people (or concepts) they are attached to. This is why we see middle schoolers imitating their favorite characters or whatever they're into. They don't have that identity yet so they're trying to cling on to something else. This is also a contributor to the rise of otherkin culture and MOGAI genders. I can easily see how this can occur in cases of malingering DID.

These dramatic and fantasized representations of DID are widespread online whereas they only account from somewhere between 6% to 8% of real cases. A difference in age and sometimes gender can be common, but a wide variety of species, race, fantasy, objects, and 'fictive' alters are not. It's seeing all this that makes professionals and any sane person doubt this disorder's very existence.
 
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The discrimination that is being held against them is created by people who malinger DID and the therapists who enable them. I can’t think of any other disorder that’s rise to notoriety was caused by debunked cases, the obvious exceptions being Factitious Disorders. Sybil, Michelle Remembers, the Satanic Panic, Patricia Burgus, etc. Additionally, the fantasy presentation of the cases you see online is what gives DID its discrimination. The whole idea of DID is that it's what the child needs to survive. So yes, alters of different races, genders, etc can form, but only because it's what the child 'needs'. MultiplicityAndMe is one of the few online cases I believe because you can see how the differences were needed. All her alters are boys because she feels if she had been a boy she wouldn't have gone through what she did. Excellent representation of this theory.

Cases with different races are common in protectors because a child may view a person who is a different race to be 'tougher' than they are. I'm sure this would be seen as racism by some morons out there. There can be cases where a child feels rejected as their own race and wishes they were part of another one. Cases where a child is the minority in their school, household, or community and bullied for it may present like this. There are some systems with alters who may have been modeled after children's book characters or fantasy concepts. It's because they saw themselves as stronger with them. However, these are not common.

Introjects were a concept that was introduced with the Satanic Panic where people claimed to have their DID be 'programmed' into them. They said that their programmers would put copies of themselves in the system to reinforce it. There was the Alice in Wonderland program where they'd put themes from that story. Then you have the whole 'the Illuminati controls everything' crowd who said that common themes from Disney Films and other pop culture references were installed as programming too (you can find out a lot more about all this on the Deprogramming Wiki which is run by a so called cult survivor).

It's funny because in cases of identity disturbance we seen a lot of idolization where a person will try to conform themselves to be just like the people (or concepts) they are attached to. This is why we see middle schoolers imitating their favorite characters or whatever they're into. They don't have that identity yet so they're trying to cling on to something else. This is also a contributor to the rise of otherkin culture and MOGAI genders. I can easily see how this can occur in cases of malingering DID.

These dramatic and fantasized representations of DID are widespread online whereas they only account from somewhere between 6% to 8% of real cases. A difference in age and sometimes gender can be common, but a wide variety of species, race, fantasy, objects, and 'fictive' alters are not. It's seeing all this that makes professionals and any sane person doubt this disorder's very existence.

I'm bored of seeing general sperging about DID on this thread when it isn't directly related to the cows in question.
 
I'm bored of seeing general sperging about DID on this thread when it isn't directly related to the cows in question.

Sorry, it was in reaction to the people who were saying we're the ones creating the discrimination. Also pointing out a lot about how the fantasy elements are so rare in real cases which is why we believe these cases to be malingering. I'll go ahead and put it in a spoiler because it is rather long. I'll avoid this kind of posting in the future too.
 
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Okay the screenshots I promised plus a bonus from a fan on Twitter.

Wow apparently it's not always fun to have DID! Or maybe just using it as an excuse to act violent. But also something interesting to take away from this post is that Chloe used to live with multiple roommates AND Jamie (her at the time boyfriend).
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The more I see, the worse I feel for Jamie. Also, I thought DID didn't make people dangerous?
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Okay the screenshots I promised plus a bonus from a fan on Twitter.

Wow apparently it's not always fun to have DID! Or maybe just using it as an excuse to act violent. But also something interesting to take away from this post is that Chloe used to live with multiple roommates AND Jamie (her at the time boyfriend).
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These particular stories always strike me as odd from her as she claims that DID systems don't have alters that are aggressive and dangerous, that making it seem like they do is stigmatizing the disorder. I don't see much difference between this and Trisha blaming her outbursts on an alter-ego

So hardly anyone in that group who replied actually are aiming for integration.
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So only 2 people might actually have the disorder in the group. Not surprising in the least.

Here's the comment where she said Jamie had been abusive in the past. This was in response to a comment on her post about Jamie contacting her mom. Someone said he sounds abusive.
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I'd really be curious as to what she claims was abusive. An abuser becoming less abusive over time would be quite atypical. Domestic abuse tends to escalate.

This is why she supposedly got an email from YT telling her to contact the police -- she had contacted YT about taking down Tatianna's videos.
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This is absolutely a lie. She got an automated response after flagging the content as threatening her. It's actually quite difficult to get to a real person at YouTube, even when you have friends who work fairly high up there. The only time one of my friends has been able to directly help me was when a friend of mine was posting active suicide threats and we wanted the person found and the videos removed.

Amira is in fact Indian as we suspected, which explains the horrible fake accent.
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I suspect that she doesn't know that India is in Asia, and that Asia a continent.

Weird post from probably a little alter. Chloe didn't reply to any comments on this post but heart reacted to a very select few comments (maybe 5/65).
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This would literally never happen. These people are so fucking brainwashed. A psychotherapist would never casually ask about trauma, let alone while someone is working/training for work.

I'm not even going to get into the fact that this obviously directly violates her "rules about our littles".

Jamie is a saint to have put up with that for as long as he did. #stanjamie

Jamie, the true victim, yet silent. #westan
 
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The more I see, the worse I feel for Jamie. Also, I thought DID didn't make people dangerous?
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If someone is inherently dangerous DID won't suddenly make them docile. It's the same with any disorder you have schizophrenics who are docile and those that are dangerous. There actually is an SVU episode based on an actual case of someone trying ot fake DID to get out of murder charges.
 
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Also please do not use the word autistic as an insult as that too is true medical diagnosis and should not be used as an insult word.
This is clearly not the website for you my guy

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Anyway, I just want to say this is very reminiscent of the "trans" community that exists on the internet. Young, impressionable, tweens who think that their low self esteem means they can invent a special gender for themselves to feel like they're special and not to be questioned because "this is my identity its totally valid". Insulting bullshit. This community acts the same way, ganging up on anyone with an opinion that differs from their own and feeling like any criticism is a personal attack on them. I wish these kids would stop feeding into each others delusions and go seek some actual help from a professional.
 
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Is this actually that reassuring? This exceptional individual (who likely thinks one or more members of BTS are their alters) has little to no credibility, given their own obvious issues.
Maybe "reassuring" isn't exactly the most accurate description, but it's nice to see one of their followers condemning their behavior publicly rather than defending it.

Obviously DID sufferers are more oppressed, they even get to be a whole other race if they want to. DID always holds the trump card and wins gold in the Oppression Olympics every time.

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Miss Twitter Crusader just changed her entire personal page into a "DID movement" named WhatTheyActuallyDID to fight discrimination against the DID community. There is a support ribbon and everything!

It's not my personal twitter anymore, it's a movement now. Fight against discrimination of the DID community!
It says "one-person movement". If they develop some alters, they can get more 'people' on board.

Funny that Nan has decided to befriend FP and DIDMom. Two very small creators who aren't particularly significant but both have children.



I think drawing children engaging in kink is pretty deplorable too. But, yes, tricking her young audience into engaging with her kink is just arguably worse as it involved real people.
With that said, I think we're forgetting that Nan actively spent time thinking about, visualising, and bringing to life an image she conjured up of children engaging in fetish. That wasn't an accident or a mistake. She went through that process several times and her choosing to draw the porn speaks to her mindset in relation to children.
The fact that she went on to act on her interest by involving her audience shows that she struggles to contain these thoughts to fantasy alone. I don't think we should discount the porn.
Exactly! Although the sneezing fetish itself is gross in my eyes, Nan obviously likes to draw and the porn itself (when it contains only adults) isn't the pressing issue. What's really disgusting is how her fetish has made its way into her regular content, and that her demographic is mostly minors. Knowing she gets off on sneezing is okay, I guess (yuck), but knowing that when she's making sneezing video compilations, drawing children sneezing, and engaging with her young audience is creepy and gross. I can't believe people are defending this, especially people who claim DID due to years of their own CSA. You would think they would be horrified, ESPECIALLY the ones who have children themselves.


So hardly anyone in that group who replied actually are aiming for integration.
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Well, color me shocked.

Amira is in fact Indian as we suspected, which explains the horrible fake accent.
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Hold on, weren't we all told that alters form their own unique personas through their own life experiences while they were 'fronting'?
When was Chloe in North America living on a reserve and/or surrounded by other Native culture enough to form a fully-developed person out of her experiences? Watching Disney's Pocahontas doesn't count.
If Gregory is Asian, is he from the UK, or is he from Asia? What part of Asia? Does Gregory not know if he's Chinese/Japanese/Malaysian/etc.?
When did Amira spend time in India? Did she come from there? Did Chloe go on a trip to India and bring back Amira? Did Chloe see a brown person and think, "they look nice"?
It's a trip having so many questions about something that isn't real.
 
It's hard to pick a winner for most cringe out of that group, with one that drew on their face with a sharpie and another dancing sitting down for "mobility challenged individuals"(read: fat asses) but I'm going to crown Slow Switch for the crossing of the eyes like a sped. Special mention to the discount juggalette. Is it just me or is it eerie that we're seeing a disproportionate amount of young females identifying this way and how that correlates to another popular theory to explain Chloe and Nan's DID symptoms good old fashioned BPD?
The majority of the transtrenders and non binaries are young females as well. They also make similar, equally cringey tik toks.
 
If I remember correctly, Cloe said something about Nadia being based on a character in a book. So I guess no knowledge of any actual native cultures needed.
Considering that Gregory is called Gregory, I'm guessing that he's just an exotic-looking British person, which makes him describing himself as Asian completely pointless in the first place.

That’s the beauty of DID. You can make up whatever bullshit you want to and nobody is allowed to say anything because uwu it's not your fault that your imaginary friends identify as brown people. All your shitty actions are always someone else's fault and you conveniently don't remember anything unpleasant.
 
Found another contradiction. According to Chloe, this whole drama with her and whole "DID community" started with Trisha"s videos. Chloe has claimed in the past that she has no memory of their trauma cuz that's what DID protects you from blah blah...yet in her video about how Trisha made her split, she said it was because it caused flashbacks of times where they couldn't protect themselves from yelling and screaming and there wasn't a screen there to protect her. Makes no sense. Just another inconsistency
 
The majority of the transtrenders and non binaries are young females as well. They also make similar, equally cringey tik toks.
another parallel I've thought about is how neither groups seem to have any interest in fixing their problem (trying to pass, HRT, GRS for trans people, integration for DID) but it doesn’t really surprise me. Actually transitioning or integrating would take away their pity points. All these young girls want is to feel oppressed I swear
 
another parallel I've thought about is how neither groups seem to have any interest in fixing their problem (trying to pass, HRT, GRS for trans people, integration for DID) but it doesn’t really surprise me. Actually transitioning or integrating would take away their pity points. All these young girls want is to feel oppressed I swear
In all honesty I think fixing their problem would be going to therapy and getting professional help. With the transtrenders I think HRT and surgery are not the answer because it doesn’t address the underlying issues, only the superficial ones of that moment, and most of the trenders grow out of it but then the damage is already done. The problems these young girls have are not that they’re transgender or have DID, it’s something else entirely. Children are so easily influenced and that’s why people like Chloe and Nan and the trans lobby are really doing more harm than good, even if their intentions might not be malicious.

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Exactly! Although the sneezing fetish itself is gross in my eyes, Nan obviously likes to draw and the porn itself (when it contains only adults) isn't the pressing issue. What's really disgusting is how her fetish has made its way into her regular content, and that her demographic is mostly minors. Knowing she gets off on sneezing is okay, I guess (yuck), but knowing that when she's making sneezing video compilations, drawing children sneezing, and engaging with her young audience is creepy and gross. I can't believe people are defending this, especially people who claim DID due to years of their own CSA. You would think they would be horrified, ESPECIALLY the ones who have children themselves.

I feel like if Nan ever responds to all of this, (doubtful, but maybe) then it's going to come in the form of 'people are mad at me because I have a fetish for sneezing', and all the drawings and that video about the alters sneezing is going to be brushed under the rug.
 
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