Communists - That time when 100 million people died wasn't REAL communism, comrade

ICametoLurk said:
Yugo best car.
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Having owned one, Yugos are genuinely good cars. Swap some parts out with the Fiat original (especially the brakes, maybe add the race suspension if you wanna get spicy), and you got yourself a neat little Italian hatch that was made in he same factory as the milsurp Serbian AK or Mk.III Tokarev Pistol in your closet.

They never blew up, they were reliable(ish), they were good on gas. They weren't successful in the U.S., because they were small, dweebish poorfaggotry, and underpowered. You can make them move pretty well, even on a shoestring budget, but in the 80s, you wouldn't be caught dead driving one.

I would buy another one. I'd trade my current car for a nice condition Yugo GV.
 
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Daughter of Cernunnos said:
Based Canadian communist. Before the modern understanding of anti-racism in an intersectional way there were leftists called "indigenists" who were very against colonialism and saw miscegenation as a form of colonialism.
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And now there is a bunch of white people successfully larping as Indians/Natives.

They were right.
 
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I think a lot of communists don't actually believe it works, they just want to live in a world without rich people, if everyone is poor and miserable then that's at least better than some being poor and miserable and some being super rich.

It's pure sour grapes and cutting your nose off to spite your face.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
I think a lot of communists don't actually believe it works, they just want to live in a world without rich people, if everyone is poor and miserable then that's at least better than some being poor and miserable and some being super rich.

It's pure sour grapes and cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Fittingly enough, this is in the book I've read.
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I think at the moment too a lot of the support of communism is simply to be the polar opposite of Trump and the "Alt Right"

They know the "Alt Right Nazis" don't like communism so SJWs become self proclaimed communists just to "own the Alt Right Nazis", they'd jump off a bridge if they thought it "own the Alt Right Nazis"

They're not thinking any deeper about it than that.
 
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Dom Cruise said:
I think at the moment too a lot of the support of communism is simply to be the polar opposite of Trump and the "Alt Right"

They know the "Alt Right Nazis" don't like communism so SJWs become self proclaimed communists just to "own the Alt Right Nazis", they'd jump off a bridge if they thought it "own the Alt Right Nazis"

They're not thinking any deeper about it than that.
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Nah there's plenty of dum dums who think they'll automatically get their debts wiped and won't have to work unless they feel like it
 
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Dom Cruise said:
I think a lot of communists don't actually believe it works, they just want to live in a world without rich people, if everyone is poor and miserable then that's at least better than some being poor and miserable and some being super rich.

It's pure sour grapes and cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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A world without rich people....or should we said when it's only the leaders who are rich and piss the plebians with their mansions. Like Stalin's mini-mansion for example. http://archive.vn/WnTKL
 
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The idea of a communistic society sounds nice on a certain level. In the communist dogma, they believe that without work everyone could pursue artistic or creative interests. That leads to another problem though: What about people who don't care for doing stuff like that? What about people who actually like to work, do practical things, and keep busy? Also, if it's an agrian society then people will certainly end up finding things to do. Of course, communists and their ilk are no strangers to thought policing people.

Ironically, at least for the communists, automation, as provided by capitalist ventures, will give us a variation of that communistic society. How funny it came from capitalism instead of communism though.
 
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I think it's because communism requires an certain level of technological stagnation. Automation is good and all, but it starts destroying jobs after an certain point.
 
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NerdShamer said:
Automation is good and all, but it starts destroying jobs after an certain point.
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Well, I mean, for them that's a feature, not a bug. The idea of working for a living, or to be more precise working to stay alive seems to utterly repulse them. It amuses me - they think themselves that much better than any other living creature? Everything alive on Earth has to work a bit to stay alive. Life is fraught with risk and filled with labors of one sort or another. But they shouldn't have to? Nature doesn't reward indolence and while human beings have done a lot to mitigate nature's influence it's not really something that can ever be escaped. Indolence is death, and if you make the luxury of fucking about a given, a constant of humanity... we will absolutely cease to exist as a species. We will settle into a kind of numb torpidity, where even thought becomes too much work (and besides, we've got big fancy computers to think about important things for us now!) We will not just sink below the lowest rungs of the animal order where breed-eat-shit-die is the only real directive, we'll fucking IMPLODE as a species.

The thing about work is that it's a challenge - do it harder, do it better, do it faster, do it smarter. We NEED challenges. Everything NEEDS challenges. We meet challenges, we adapt, we overcome, we move on to the next. Life without challenge to overcome is not life.
 
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@NerdShamer @Homoerotic Cougar-kun

I see what you guys mean. I'm not entirely condoning automation, just pointing out that it kind of fulfills what communists say they want. Personally, I don't mind limited amounts of automation, so as long as society tries to adapt appropriately. How that works is something I'm not qualified to explain! :hah:

As for what you were saying in particular Homoerotic Cougar-kun, I also agree with you. Life needs challanges, whether we want them or not. Most people like to do things. Most people love competition and difficulty. I say most because the communist types we're discussing obviously don't want any of that.
 
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It's not exactly automation I was talking about, but it's the lack of innovation and quality management that Communism is associated with. Like, how the Soviets tucked the T-34 over by denying most of the upgrades to keep the production numbers up. Or the train wreck that is North Korea
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Stalin' put a man named Grigory Kulik in charge in the war economy before the war.

Kulik didn't believe in minefields. They were dishonorable.
Kulik didn't believe in machine guns. They were wasteful.
Kulik didn't believe in helmets. They encouraged cowardice.
Kulik didn't like tanks. It was cavalry that won the the Russian Civil War.
Kulik didn't like grenades. They were dangerous.

One must wonder if this is communism or just Russia being Russia. Most of the countries that became communist were shit to begin with and remained shit under capitalism. Pretty much every communist country has been under either China or Russia's influence and both of those countries are clusterfucks, with or without communism.
 
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While this isn't exactly communism, I've found the missing link between it and the woke crowd.


Praise the capitalist diploma mills for this gift, comrades.
 
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