Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Glad to see the daily death count heading in the right direction. Although on that Guardian page I see that Tony fucking Blair has apparently published an exit plan for lockdown.

Did anyone ask him to do that?

He's Tony fucking Blair. He thinks he's the Messiah.

Here's the paper

https://institute.global/sites/default/files/inline-files/A Sustainable Exit Strategy, Managing Uncertainty Minimising Harm.pdf
https://web.archive.org/web/2020042...egy, Managing Uncertainty Minimising Harm.pdf

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Soft lockdown means you need to show your clear status on your government-mandated loicense/spyware app. Thanks, Tone. I was just thinking 'What the UK needs is to be more of an Orwellian hellhole'.
 

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Why do some people want the lockdowns to continue indefinitely if more and more people lose their jobs? I have seen this sentiment on a local subreddit and I want to know why? Do they like seeing their enemies lose their livelihoods or is this an excuse for communism?
Sitting at home being paid by the government to complain on the internet plus having an excuse to hate people with a social life is a dream come true to anyone who regularly goes on reddit. They want the ebul nasees to stop ruining it just because their stupid white rugrats need food or whatever.
 
I wonder when will borders open. I can't believe it, but I actually miss going to school. I was even aiming for another degree because the jobs in my degree has long been going to shit before this happened. Online classes doesn't fill that hole, and I doubt they are any good for getting connections in the long run.
I was struggling to get a job, and think I finally got one, only to get a pandemic washing over the world. Fucking Chinks.
 
His name was Manuel Clavijo. He is number 36. In the line of duty over 30 thousand healthcare workers have gotten infected with coronavirus in spain. 36 of them have lost their lives as a result.

What makes this a bit more heavy hitting for me is that Clavijo was a cleaner on the hospital of Jerez de la Frontera. Which is in the province of Cadiz. I never dealt with him personally or know him at all, he did not work for Puerta del Mar. But every loss in the squadron is feels just that bit harder than those outsite. Rest in peace.

I will copy the letter the personnel of Jerez Hospital left him.

"A ninguno de lo que te conocimos nos cabe la menor duda de que luchaste hasta el final, pero este maldito virus te ha ganado la batalla. Te has ido en silencio como te gustaba compañero, desde la tranquilidad que transmitías y la serenidad de una buena persona. Donde quiera que estés, debes saber que todos tus compañeros y compañeras del Hospital de Jerez se sienten orgullosos de ti y que nos has roto el corazón….no estábamos preparados para esta repentina partida. Hemos tenido la enorme fortuna de conocer a una buena persona, con una gran calidad humana, educado, trabajador…pero sobre todo compañero. Las buenas personas como tú nunca mueren… siempre permanecerás vivo en nuestros corazones. Hasta siempre, Clavijo, descansa en paz".

"None of us that knew you have the slightest doubt you fought until the very end, but the damned virus won this battle. You went silently as you liked to do, partner, with the tranquility you taught us and serenity of a good person. Wherever you are we want you to know all your partners from Jerez Hospital are proud of you and that you broke our hearts... We were not ready for you to leave. We had the great fortune of knowing a good person, with great human quality, educated, laborious... put most of all partner. People like you never die... you will always be alive in our hearts. Goodbye, Clavijo, rest in peace.
 
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Because that's not creepy. I can't help but notice that none of you journalists and none of these social media companies care that much when people organize these huge "Rent Strikes" that violate this shit, and yet when it's a protest that goes against the established narrative, it has to be crushed underneath a boot. Seems a little unusual to me that the Right to Assembly applies to one party but not the other, here.

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These state governments are indirectly violating the protesters' First Amendment rights. Facebook is privately owned and can remove anything it pleases. Sounds like some state governments need to be reported to the DOJ.

Added: these state governments have been reported to the DOJ. Easy to do. Use the "contact us" feature on their website. The more of such reports, the better.
 
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LOL Cuomo wants to use the virus and shutdown as an opportunity for advancing Social Justice.

Also surprise surprise, his reopening, excuse me "Reimagining NY" taskforce will be primarily focused on NYC.

He said today there is NO plan to reopen schools, but he has also constantly said that he will not reopen businesses until schools reopen due to daycare concerns for workers. Therefore, if you read between the lines, he has no plans to reopen businesses in NY (and therefore the entire Northeastern States Council) til late June when schools would close for summer anyway.

I am also getting sick and tired of the crusading journalist who spergs every NYS briefing about nursing homes. Almost as annoying as the ones at the Trump conferences who think they are the next Woodward and Bernstein and today they will ask the key question which brings down the Trump presidency. You can recognize them as the ones who angrily call out "MIS-TER PRES-I-DENT!!!!" during the Q&A. Yes, your righteous fury will save the country. 🙄
 
Minor LA Suburb Update:
- Online culture has been a train-wreck since day 1, but as the protests ramp up, I see more and more real life people polarizing over the opening up issue. I feel like I can't voice my opinion anymore without fear of alienating my friends.
- I'm on day 26 of my lock-down and definitely starting to feel it fucking with my head. The cat is on edge and my roommates have been fighting about the protests the last couple mornings. One wants to join on principle and the other thinks we need to trust the government.
- Roommates have managed to secure new stores of all the essentials by waiting in morning lines at the store. Stuff's always sold out when I go in the evening. Canned soup is only obtainable if you buy it at the secret corner store.
- Lots of people are outside walking around. Everyone who isn't obviously exercising is wearing a mask. Lines at drive throughs are all crazy long and people are apparently happy sitting in their car for 45 minutes to get a drive through In-N-Out burger.
- I went to the bank and it was drive through too. It sucked and took forever but worked okay.
- As mentioned by others, they filled our local skate park with sand. I'm not sure why... I was watching a live beach feed last week, and there was no one there. It sounds like the skateboarders are already shoveling it out?
- They re-opened a couple beaches, just outside the LA County line.
- My Aunt (an ER nurse in Ohio) and her whole family have come down with the virus. They say it sucks but they don't feel they're in any danger. I don't personally know anyone local who is sick or who has died.
- Apparently there's a theory going around the nursing community that the disease is worst the more viral load you're exposed to. This might explain why people were getting sick in January and February but no one was dying.
- Local animal rescue groups are going nuts because the shelters are refusing new animals and are telling people to put abused dogs and newborn kittens back where you found them - even if that's in a garbage can or other shitty place. They're circulating petitions to the mayor and trying to get the animal control commissioner fired. It's a weird footnote amidst the other chaos.
- My friend-who-works-for-a-college says they're discussing a hybrid program for the fall. Kids would come back to the dorms, but do a lot of classes online.
 
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Everyone I've seen at work when I have to go in looks disheveled. No reason to take care of your looks if you are inside 7 days a week.

Can confirm. Have done work from home IT stuff before, for significant stretches, and after about week 2 or 3 you stop wearing pants. Why bother?


Okay, at first these LWT's not in the studio are okay, now they are getting to feel like propaganda.

Every single LWT has been propaganda, since the show's conception. LWT was meant to replace Bill Maher once he was sufficiently me too'd -- he said the word Nigger once and doesn't believe in Cultural Marxist Critical Theory, and thus had to be destroyed. Trump shook that up though, since they now still need Maher, but he's living on borrowed time.

Glad to see the daily death count heading in the right direction. Although on that Guardian page I see that Tony fucking Blair has apparently published an exit plan for lockdown.

Did anyone ask him to do that?

It's been interesting seeing the same "organic" responses to Trump, down to the the left just pretending he doesn't exist and offering a "real response," being repeated lockstep in the UK against Boris. Because that's how completely organic responses happen.
 
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They've already shoveled out all the sand and gone back to skateboarding. What a fantastic waste of time and money that was.
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- Local animal rescue groups are going nuts because the shelters are refusing new animals and are telling people to put abused dogs and newborn kittens back where you found them - even if that's in a garbage can or other shitty place. They're circulating petitions to the mayor and trying to get the animal control commissioner fired. It's a weird footnote amidst the other chaos.
Sure, let's have animals wandering around during a pandemic! What could go wrong?
I swear if we learn nothing else from this, it’s that the moment somebody is put forth as an “expert” they should immediately be hung from the nearest tree. “Expert” is so clearly synonymous with “Autist with no common sense”.
LOL Cuomo wants to use the virus and shutdown as an opportunity for advancing Social Justice.

Also surprise surprise, his reopening, excuse me "Reimagining NY" taskforce will be primarily focused on NYC.

He said today there is NO plan to reopen schools, but he has also constantly said that he will not reopen businesses until schools reopen due to daycare concerns for workers. Therefore, if you read between the lines, he has no plans to reopen businesses in NY (and therefore the entire Northeastern States Council) til late June when schools would close for summer anyway.
You can add "Politician-pretending-to-be-expert" as synonymous with "Imbecile who has no idea what he/she's doing". Upstate New York was already stagnant/depressed, now the NYC economy is also going to be shit. All this will do is accelerate the exodus from NY and it will be the 1970s again.
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What number does the death toll have to pass to get the "it's just a flu" crowd to shut the fuck up?

I would say more than the number who die of heart disease yearly (over 600,000) or the number of those dying from cancer yearly (600,000). In other words, there are 100,000-plus Americans dying of these two causes alone every month, plus about 75-80,000 more who die of certain other causes each month, for a rough total of 180,000 Americans dying each month.



Added: And a big RA! for the skaters who cleaned out their skate park, as well as the bikers who showed it was still a place to ride, even filled with sand. Keep pushing back, nonviolently. Stand up for yourselves. Get the boot off the neck. "They" need to learn we are not their slaves or animals.
 
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In 18 months' time, over 60% of your population will have been infected with the virus and about 2% of you will be dead, with millions more suffering permanent lung damage. Meanwhile, the number infected in China will be a rounding error and most of the population will be vaccinated.

This is what a 10-point IQ advantage does, friends. East Asia employs technology to defeat the virus, while Europe and America must tolerate it, relying on their immune response to survive like primitive animals. Keep importing and breeding with those niggërs and shitskins and soon you will be as children to us.
Quality shitpost, mein neger!

Already established as being capable of spreading disease much more easily then disposable bags. You cant win, some group is going to be pissed no matter the bag.
Oh, this is just perfect on top on the fact that for example cotton bag would have to be reused about 200 times (which might happen, but most likely won't) to have lesser impact that one-use plastic bags.


What number does the death toll have to pass to get the "it's just a flu" crowd to shut the fuck up?
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I would say more than the number who die of heart disease yearly (over 600,000) or the number of those dying from cancer yearly (600,000). In other words, there are 100,000-plus Americans dying of these two causes alone every month, plus about 75-80,000 more who die of certain other causes each month, for a rough total of 180,000 Americans dying each month.


Honestly I wouldn't use cancer deaths as comparison to anything because if you live long enough eventually cancer'll get you. It's like the grim reaper. It eventually comes for us all. Heart conditions ARE a lot more of a serious issue and need to be controlled already.

Petulance aside. You're both partially right, it is worrying, it isn't severe, truth is in the middle.

Still gotta say. It's funny how seeing deaths in the hundreds of thousands is just statistics most can't give a shit about. But when you put a name to number 36 it sure hurts a lot more. Perspective is one hell of a thing. It really doesn't feel fair to have losses just as we're seeing the end of the fight. Yesterday we celebrated being at the 400 range. Today we were at 399, practically blaring past that mark that took so much to beat, most agree this signals we're finally plumeting out of that last step. We should be celebrating such a powerful victory. Today was not a good day for rain. It really wasn't.

I’ve seen thoughts on an August of September origin, but I’m not sure I buy it. No matter how you slice it, the first places this thing gets into is generally the health care providers. And while they may be asymptomatic, or simply have shrugged it off, the second it hits a nursing home or critical care unit it gets noticed. Unless they have records of some unexpected nursing home death spikes earlier than November, I still think November is when this got rolling.



So they are now saying that the model they used to justify locking everybody at home is fatally flawed. Therefore it cannot be used to justify setting anybody free. Because the Experts say you must stay where you are forever!

I swear if we learn nothing else from this, it’s that the moment somebody is put forth as an “expert” they should immediately be hung from the nearest tree. “Expert” is so clearly synonymous with “Autist with no common sense”.

Actual experts from ISCIII are trying to push the gov to quicken the deescalation and telling the people so long as the trend is maintained we're past the real point where their models say we'll be fine.

Those so called experts say their models never had a point where deescalation would be acceptable to begin with.

I'mma say... this is the difference between autists with and without common sense.

Are we absolutely sure these freezers aren't where they store viruses that pose no danger to humans? I mean still. You wouldn't show pictures of a frost-covered freezer with a bent seal even if you were showing off where you store, I dunno, soil samples in an agriculture school, let alone something medical. I want to believe these are pictures taken from some under-funded university and have nothing to do with viruses and they somehow got taken out of context or something, and they are not the original pictures posted by China Daily. This is mind-boggling.

The original context was put here a few hundred pages back. It was china gloating about the "largest bank of viri in assia" and basically trying to passive agressively threaten the world by showing off their BSL4 cock. And the world laughed.
 
Farage is better at being The Opposition than the Labour Party right now. And I say that not agreeing with him about the Sunday Times article being as damaging to Boris as has been claimed

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BoJo will come out of this just fine. It's all about expectations. At the start of all this the death number being bandied about was 500,000 for the UK. If we come in at 20-25k I think most people will regard that as pretty good (and there will be inevitable comparisons to other countries).

If kids go back to school in May, lockdown over in June, I fully expect that by Christmas we'll all be looking back at "that couple of months where we had to work from home". Historically, this will be a footnote in BoJo's premiership. People will mainly remember that he caught it and had to be hospitalised, and that it wasn't as bad as it was hyped up to be in the end.
 
BoJo will come out of this just fine. It's all about expectations. At the start of all this the death number being bandied about was 500,000 for the UK. If we come in at 20-25k I think most people will regard that as pretty good (and there will be inevitable comparisons to other countries).

If kids go back to school in May, lockdown over in June, I fully expect that by Christmas we'll all be looking back at "that couple of months where we had to work from home". Historically, this will be a footnote in BoJo's premiership. People will mainly remember that he caught it and had to be hospitalised, and that it wasn't as bad as it was hyped up to be in the end.

Plus he doesn't have to have an election until 2024, he just has to not die and he wins
 
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BoJo will come out of this just fine. It's all about expectations. At the start of all this the death number being bandied about was 500,000 for the UK. If we come in at 20-25k I think most people will regard that as pretty good (and there will be inevitable comparisons to other countries).

If kids go back to school in May, lockdown over in June, I fully expect that by Christmas we'll all be looking back at "that couple of months where we had to work from home". Historically, this will be a footnote in BoJo's premiership. People will mainly remember that he caught it and had to be hospitalised, and that it wasn't as bad as it was hyped up to be in the end.

It helps him that there is no viable alternative candidate for PM at the moment and the damn commies sucker-punched us with this bug by covering up the problem until it had spread globally.
 
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