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We really do need new content, this drought is taking us to weird places.
Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata
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We really do need new content, this drought is taking us to weird places.
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Maybe if we do a rain dance Nadia will post something.
Neith
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I feel dirty now watching that “lOoK hOw DiF wE sNeEzE” vid thinking it was innocent. Can’t sneeze irl without being weirded out.
Call BS on Ninchloe not knowing about all this shit either. They would role play in the damn mall looking for boxers for Kyle who dates age sliding Jermey. Just blegh so gross the whole thing.
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Theory: Chloe is going to come back a different person all together, not just another integration. She is going to intergrate, split, and reintegrated ect. into a person who will be unaware of anything that happened while she was away. That way she won't have to take any responsibility or answer for anything. She'll pretend she doesn't remember and her otherwise non-existent "amnesiac walls" will actually come in handy for once. She may rebrand so heavily she could become unrecognizable to the person she portrays today.
*This is what happens when we're on a dry spell
Bananasaurus
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Like I said before, I don't really think she has to "rebrand" at all. In the eyes of most people she has done absolutely nothing wrong.
She didn't stop her flying monkeys from attacking Trisha until she got some backlash, but she did make a "We don't condone harassment uwu" post later on, and it theoretically isn't her fault. It was stupid of her to take Trisha seriously and insert herself into drama where there was none, but she didn't harass anyone herself.
She's also the victim in the Nan drama. I 100% believe that she didn't know about the CP art because normal people probably don't obsessively check their partner's accounts for any signs of degeneracy unless they were already suspicious. The increase in romantic child roleplaying might have given her a clue, but it's not like she could have called out Nan unless she wanted to out herself as a LARPer. So basically poor Chloe found out over the internet that her fiancee is a nonce. She's cheapened her brand by associating with someone more cringy, less attractive and worse at acting out her Tumblr OCs, and on top of that she finds out that they draw fetish art of children.
That’s not even mentioning her s*uicide attempt because she's too dainty to handle criticism.
Tl;dr: From the POV of her Fans, Chloe...
- is being blamed for something she did not do herself (harassment of Trisha)
- has a new, very active thread on a "hate forum"
- attempted suicide because of all the hate she is getting
- found out her fiancee is a kiddy fiddler, which as a sufferer of imagined child abuse must have been very triggering for her
She also gained like 50k subscribers since her hiatus. She's doing more than fine.
It would be smart to reorganize her alters, though, and I'm sure that's what she's doing while she's gone. All the kids who had a "Nan alter" suddenly got rid of them when it was no longer cool to associate with her, so I'm sure Chloe will do the same. No more need for Nin because Nan is out of the picture.
I bet she'll come back with either some more Dark content since her kiddy fans are dying to learn more about the edgy smoke boy, or introduce at least one new alter because of all the new "trauma" she went through.
She didn't stop her flying monkeys from attacking Trisha until she got some backlash, but she did make a "We don't condone harassment uwu" post later on, and it theoretically isn't her fault. It was stupid of her to take Trisha seriously and insert herself into drama where there was none, but she didn't harass anyone herself.
She's also the victim in the Nan drama. I 100% believe that she didn't know about the CP art because normal people probably don't obsessively check their partner's accounts for any signs of degeneracy unless they were already suspicious. The increase in romantic child roleplaying might have given her a clue, but it's not like she could have called out Nan unless she wanted to out herself as a LARPer. So basically poor Chloe found out over the internet that her fiancee is a nonce. She's cheapened her brand by associating with someone more cringy, less attractive and worse at acting out her Tumblr OCs, and on top of that she finds out that they draw fetish art of children.
That’s not even mentioning her s*uicide attempt because she's too dainty to handle criticism.
Tl;dr: From the POV of her Fans, Chloe...
- is being blamed for something she did not do herself (harassment of Trisha)
- has a new, very active thread on a "hate forum"
- attempted suicide because of all the hate she is getting
- found out her fiancee is a kiddy fiddler, which as a sufferer of imagined child abuse must have been very triggering for her
She also gained like 50k subscribers since her hiatus. She's doing more than fine.
It would be smart to reorganize her alters, though, and I'm sure that's what she's doing while she's gone. All the kids who had a "Nan alter" suddenly got rid of them when it was no longer cool to associate with her, so I'm sure Chloe will do the same. No more need for Nin because Nan is out of the picture.
I bet she'll come back with either some more Dark content since her kiddy fans are dying to learn more about the edgy smoke boy, or introduce at least one new alter because of all the new "trauma" she went through.
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She doesn't need to rebrand, If she did tho I'd think it was because she is just really dramatic. She enjoys getting a reaction for doing something outrageous for attention and praise. The amnesia would be an added bonus. Sadly I don't think she needed to take time off for her image to remain intact and in goodstanding given how much the public outlook is on her side. It's more the way shes reacted to the little things that has me thinking she'll "go big or go home"
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Bananasaurus
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I mean in a way she has to "rebrand" because she previously claimed that a known internet troll saying she sounded crazy in her videos was so traumatic that she split again. Another swim in the lake and finding out your partner is a nonce is arguably way worse than that.
She doesn't really need "amnesia" though because she'll get way more pity points if she remembers all the ~trauma~
Claiming she forgot absolutely everything would be a really dumb move and it's unnecessary because, again, she's far from being the bad guy in this situation. She has an insanely supportive fanbase.
Carlos the Scientist
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It's in this video (Inner Worlds | Debunking DID), about 2:01 in.
Starting at 1:50, where she describes why inner worlds exist: 'If communication isn't very good in the external world, then alters can often meet up in the inner world. There's also a lot of heavy symbolism and metaphorical objects in the inner world - so, for example, we have a carousel in our inner world. It's very very common to have a castle, or a mansion, or a big house...'
She doesn't elaborate any further than that, I don't think. It's a hyperspecific bit of knowledge, but that's one hell of an allusion to make with this in mind.
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My dumb ass just thought she meant the kind with horses...somewhere her alters could go and play for the day! Something along the lines of taking the Littles to the boardwalk for some fun in the sun. ~Silly Skittle~ Of course CalamityChloe has to have some symbolic Bourne Identity type shit happening in her brain.
heavycream
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Every time i see her make allusions to mind control / programming trauma, i remember how heinous the accounts of the ritual abuse that underlies it are. Every time she does it, honestly my blood starts boiling, because not only is she undermining people who may have experienced such dehumanising torture, but her unmarred body and cool demeanour makes it incredibly clear she has never once experienced even a fraction of that abuse.
From Ellen P. Lacter's (Ph. D.) website on ritual abuse. Here's just a subset of the kinds of abuse that break a child's psyche for programming.
From Ellen P. Lacter's (Ph. D.) website on ritual abuse. Here's just a subset of the kinds of abuse that break a child's psyche for programming.
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Exactly. It’s even worse because if she knows what it is, she knows the extreme stigma that true torture survivors face after the Satanic Panic. Faking this only worsens the stigma. And she calls herself an advocate? Disgusting.
Also, Dr. Grande did a video about malingering! I know it’s about psychosis, but I think he’s paying close attention. He confirms that it’s easy to fake and difficult to catch. I’m watching it now and will update how it might apply to Chloe.
aanoo
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I am procrastinating so I did it. I'm not as big of a Chloe expert as some here however, so I'm probably missing some stuff. A lot of it also refers specifically to a therapeutic relationship, so it's hard to know, but I tried.
1. Unlikely symptom combinations (e.g., saying you have Major Depressive Disorder but repeatedly appearing happy or reporting happiness).
-Claims frequent and severe amnesia and dissociation, yet shows no impaired awareness of daily life/disruption even while in the middle of filming videos.
-Claims to be heavily traumatised yet never seems to exhibit the classic symptom of avoiding memories and topics reminiscent of the trauma, quite the opposite. Similarly, she doesn't seem to exhibit any of the less marketable trauma symptoms like sleep problems, fear of intimate relationships, addiction.
-The absurd symptoms she reports (like the vast intricacies of the inner world, the weird ways her alters integrate and split and integrate, the bizarre alter forms).
2. Uncooperativeness in a therapeutic context.
See: Chloe's frustration with her former therapist.
3. Saying "I don't know" a lot to basic questions.
N/A on youtube but who knows in therapy.
4. Intimidation or anger in a therapeutic context.
Unknown.
5. Upset by benign questions.
Not as far as I know.
6. Hesitation when answering, as if trying to construct a narrative.
Her videos are so heavily edited and rehearsed this is hard to ascertain. However, she definitely did a lot of research through M&M and scouring Ritual Abuse fb groups to construct her narrative.
7. Asking therapist how they answered a question before.
N/A
8. Accusing you of inferring they are faking.
-Her first video mentions that she used to think DID was fake until she got diagnosed because her's is so super real.
-Chloe made that FAKING A DISORDER!? (DID) video where she basically claimed that you can never tell if someone's faking and it's fucked up to ever suggest it.
-Was also seemingly threatened by being connected to Trisha Paytas pretending to have DID because of her wide viewership, which might make others think she's fake.
-Others suggested this may be the reason for her frustration with her former therapist.
-There's probably more but idk.
9. Vague answers.
-WRT her trauma, she loves to imply a lot of contradictory and never concrete but ominous sounding stuff.
-Her response to the Nan thing.
10. Internal inconsistencies (i.e. in reported history).
-Jumping in the lake that became hanging in the forest.
-Invisible burns.
-The being kicked out of Uni for having DID bullshit story.
-The many stories about how and when she first suspected she first had DID.
-Saying she had a really happy childhood and then implying her childhood home was too scary to return to.
-etc. etc.
11. External inconsistencies (reported symptoms compared to level of functioning and reported symptoms compared to observed symptoms).
-Not to repeat myself, but the level of disability the frequent switches and amnesia (and the trauma itself) would cause would impede her functioning to a severe and observable degree. She never struggled to upload videos on time before the drama, She's always very well-put together even if I personally think her styling sucks.
-Her dissociation doesn't look like dissociation. She never seems to display any fears around other people or in public as you would expect from someone with trauma severe enough to cause DID. She never struggles to function in public or displays a lack of necessary knowledge even when she's supposed to have the mind of a five year old. She seems very comfortable having a huge public presence which she manages entirely alone although you would think she would be too psychologically fragile to handle what comes with that.
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Noticed something else about Chloe's story: she's got an alter named Omega who supposedly was involved in her 'suicide' attempt. Funny, it turns out Omega programming is suicide programming. But she couldn't be open about that so she had her formed another way. It makes sense that since she fabricated the whole suicide she'd fabricate the alter too.
Omega is not exactly a common name. I don't think this is a coincidence.
Omega is not exactly a common name. I don't think this is a coincidence.
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I definitely think she does this. She gets very combative when pressed in a way that she worries is questioning her having DID.
Furthermore she is always acting as an authority over her memories. People who dissociate more frequently than normal (like even if they just have ADHD or something), are often unsure of whether or not their understanding of events is accurate, because they've not formed full memories of those events, which can feel like remembering dreams or thoughts instead of reality. She focuses on the "I can't remember" part of amnesia, and not the degradation that exists alongside it, because it's not a publicized symptom.
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Good catch finding this! Bet Chloe was cackling with glee when she penned that one down, thinking it was so symbolic and clever to the lore of her 'system' that reads more like a preteen OC fulled fanfiction than a debilitating mental illness. No doubt if anyone posed this information to her she'd play dumb and deny knowing the definition (or propose one or the other alters was to blame for knowing the definition and naming Omega).
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Her description of a dissociative episode, when asked was:
Dissociation is a word she knows the definition of and likes to throw around, but I don't believe she has any first hand experience with it. She just parrots what she's heard from others and calls herself an authority on the subject.
Off topic, but more people need to come over to the plurals and systems thread during this drought.
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The funny thing is that she definitely has dissociated as all people do. She just has it in her mind that it's something other than what it actually is.
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Edit: I couldn't cringe alone @ 7:33 another "little" appears and then she turns into a forlorn Kyle with ridiculous facial expressions. Also, she can never just stumble over her words or forget something small without saying "I'm disassociating".
The other thing that gets me is that she says "ok we've had a few switches in this video.. I think we're gonna stop filming" what about these switches and an unboxing video is educational? She needed to clickbait for an educational unboxing...dumb.
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To be transparent, I only made an account to respond to this reply. I’ve lurked on kiwi for years and Chloe is a joke, however incredibly entertaining
Ellen Lacter, however, has a lot of evidence against her that points towards her being a fraud entirely. She specialises in SRA, which is something that is heavily disputed to have even happened period. I would really look into the satanic panic of the 80s. She is also heavily speculated to be the therapist of a cow that is popular on lolcow, Soren Daniel Hayes. Soren lied about being in a “loli torture chamber” on tumblr in 2014 and wrote a “trauma narrative” bordering on trauma porn that has only gotten more cartoonish in nature since. Soren and her live close to each other and his therapist has been known to feed into his delusions.
what I’m trying to say is, I would take anyone who claims or insinuates they have been involved in SRA with a grain of salt. Including Chloe.
Slightly off topic I apologise, i just thought it was pertinent that SRA is debated to even exist, much like DID.
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That's true. I should probably say I don't think she has experience with the kind of dissociation that would qualify as a disorder that interferes with your daily life. She treats dissociating like she has to sneeze but can't. It comes on, she says she's dissociating, it passes, she continues filming. No mention or evidence of dissociative episodes lasting hours or days or weeks. Gotta stick to that upload schedule.