The Last of Us Franchise - Because it's apparently a franchise now. This thread has been double-DMCA’d by Sony Interactive Entertainment.

[Secret Asshole]

Some greasy, gross looking guy trying to get up on anything female that even sort of engages with him is a tale as old as time.

I find it amusing that she talks about male gaze and whatnot like she would ever experience that phenomenon in real life. She's may as well be a piece of furniture to 99.9% of guys because she's that plain.

Get offended on behalf of the sexy videogame characters. That's apparently a job that someone can have now and we're supposed to take them seriously.

(Reposting this here for context and because it's fun to piss Sony off)
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So...

I've NEVER even heard of this game, The Last of Us, until THREE days ago. I had no idea about it's very existence or would've even cared had you told me about the first game and how great it was a week ago. I don't play video games at all, so walked into all of this blind. Clicking on the thread and reading up about this shit show however, I just can't get enough. It's just fun to follow due to its politics and that's what I'm more interested in. I don't know these characters and I haven't even watched a gameplay of the first one. It's important that you know moving on I DON'T have any attachment to these characters.

THAT SAID.

There's something incredibly unnerving to me when you take an obvious beloved character in a series and not only beat him to death with a club but also SPIT on him and have another character say, "Burn in hell!"

There's clear HATRED right there towards this character by the creator. I can not imagine why a creator would do that to a character that was popular unless they had a Hurt!Character fetish.

I won't put that past Druckmann, but there's obviously more at work here. This character HAS to represent something him and his cronies dispise. And I get you're going to tell me, "It's because he's a straight white male!"

But come on. You gotta give me something MORE. It feels almost like a desperation to not only kill but bury ANY dignity the character had. It's SO obviously personal to even an outsider like me. What is it about this character that set Neil Druckmann and his people off? If Druckmann had positive things to say in the past to say about the character, it sure as hell seems to have changed in the span of seven years. You can't tell me that he even REMOTELY likes this character only to have some stereotypical Latino spitting on his dead body in this game.

They WILL argue, "That's the point! It's suppose to show the pure brutality of a post apocalyptic world and have you identify with all sides and TO GET YOU TO THINK!!!"

Ummmm. No.
This is obviously very much personal.

It is simply because Druckman probably had little involvement with Joel and just didn't give a shit about him. Its quite clearly obvious this was a vanity project for Druckman and not really a game intended for consumer use. He spent 100 million of someone else's money to make this. That's like Neil Breen working for Sony. Its fucking insane. To not even go over and look at what all that time and money is being used for.

And if Sony of America just accepted this, I'm done with the Playstation. I only bought a PS4 because it had a Jojo Game I wanted (shut up). I've only been getting jap games on it, like persona 5 if they aren't on PC. And a lot of games from glorious nippon are moving to PC. Steam allows nudity and adult content, so its relatively easy and Nintendo literally does not give a shit as long as its rated properly. Sony basically surrendered the weeb market to Nintendo and PC. For what, I don't really know. Hoping nu-males will buy their consoles? That's about as smart as dudebros buying the XBox.

With MS doing cross-compatibility between their games and PC and buying developers, it remains to be seen. But I am sure as fuck never getting a PS5 with their fucking spy system installed.

Abby combat. Kind of cool but more of the same
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I just can't play as her, I just can't. From 3rd person, my brain is informing me I'm looking at a man. Then I hear that voice and it doesn't match the body AT ALL. Its fucking terrible character design. I expect this from those 4.99 unfinished Steam Games, not a AAA publisher. It just looks fucking ugly. The model and the game.

 

[ExciteDyke]

Sony shills are fighting back.

You could kill a sony shill's family and shit directly into their mouth all in the name of playstation and they'll still defend them.

Also, is this leafy's cousin?

 

[Neurotic Loser]

(Reposting this here for context and because it's fun to piss Sony off)
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So...

I've NEVER even heard of this game, The Last of Us, until THREE days ago. I had no idea about it's very existence or would've even cared had you told me about the first game and how great it was a week ago. I don't play video games at all, so walked into all of this blind. Clicking on the thread and reading up about this shit show however, I just can't get enough. It's just fun to follow due to its politics and that's what I'm more interested in. I don't know these characters and I haven't even watched a gameplay of the first one. It's important that you know moving on I DON'T have any attachment to these characters.

THAT SAID.

There's something incredibly unnerving to me when you take an obvious beloved character in a series and not only beat him to death with a club but also SPIT on him and have another character say, "Burn in hell!"

There's clear HATRED right there towards this character by the creator. I can not imagine why a creator would do that to a character that was popular unless they had a Hurt!Character fetish.

I won't put that past Druckmann, but there's obviously more at work here. This character HAS to represent something him and his cronies dispise. And I get you're going to tell me, "It's because he's a straight white male!"

But come on. You gotta give me something MORE. It feels almost like a desperation to not only kill but bury ANY dignity the character had. It's SO obviously personal to even an outsider like me. What is it about this character that set Neil Druckmann and his people off? If Druckmann had positive things to say in the past to say about the character, it sure as hell seems to have changed in the span of seven years. You can't tell me that he even REMOTELY likes this character only to have some stereotypical Latino spitting on his dead body in this game.

They WILL argue, "That's the point! It's suppose to show the pure brutality of a post apocalyptic world and have you identify with all sides and TO GET YOU TO THINK!!!"

Ummmm. No.
This is obviously very much personal.

Joel could represent 1 of 2 things: Patriachy and; Hennig's influence on the company.

Joel is the ideal representation of a father figure in the ruined world. He was also the most dominant voice by the end of the first game. So obviously this character needs to die as he is the wrong type of hero in modern day political correctness.

The more likely reason, however, is Dreckmann hating Hennig so much that he had to prove that his stuff was superior. You see this with the black female villian dominating the main character of uncharted in every encounter the player has with her in uncharted 4. A game in which Dreckmann threw out Hennig's script and rewrote. (The prior games had Hennig as the head writer I think). I bet the only reason Ellie survives is due to Dreckmann writing her as a lesbian in the DLC.

 

[Lards and Lasses]

Sony shills are fighting back.

is this leafy's new channel?

 

[Son of Sparda 84]

Sony can release the PS5 any time they wish. Nintendo is off competing in essentially a different segment of the home gaming market until they decide to try to take on Sony again. Microsoft continues be an irrelevant dumpster fire - no matter the how hard fanboys cling to the idiotic notion of release schedules having any relevance to console market dominance.

The PS2 launched a year after the Dreamcast - Sony won.
The Xbox launched a year after the PS2 - Sony won.
The 360 lauched a year/year and a half early - Sony won - even with being 200 dollars more expensive and tens of millions of duplicate 360 consoles sold from the RRoD fiasco.
The PS4/Xbox One launched at the same time - Sony won.

And the same goes for price.

Naughty Dog could sell zero copies of the TLoU2 and it is not going to affect the overall dominance of Sony in the console market.

Edit:

LOL, at the butthurt fanboys. Keep clinging to the delusion that Sony and Microsoft are in some sort of fierce battle that can go either way.

Microsoft with the 360:

* Launched a year/year and a half early
* Was 200 dollars cheaper
* Had the luxury of selling tens of millions of duplicate consoles due to the RRoD, disk destroying drives, jet engine loud Ghostbusters style external powerbrick
* And had the entire mainstream gaming press actively rooting for them

And still got outsold every year on the market by the PS3 and ended up in last place worldwide.

A single game crashing and burning isn't going to make a bit of difference to the overall console market.

I love how you ignored the fact the Wii kicked both of their asses in sales

 

[Markorian]

I know I'm a bit late on this, but I REALLY hope no one here actually believes Sony's bullshit about it not being an unpaid employee and instead magical super hackers that somehow cobbled a dev kit together out of spare parts.

I love how you ignored the fact the Wii kicked both of their asses in sales

And the fact that the ps3 nearly bankrupted sony. As in sony as a whole, not just the playstation division.

 

[No Exit]

I just can't play as her, I just can't. From 3rd person, my brain is informing me I'm looking at a man. Then I hear that voice and it doesn't match the body AT ALL. Its fucking terrible character design. I expect this from those 4.99 unfinished Steam Games, not a AAA publisher. It just looks fucking ugly. The model and the game.

It's like the kind of goofy character you'd make in Saints Row or something for a laugh.

 

[Marissa Moira]

7 years and millions of dollars and they made something that visually looks bland, is a mess storywise and made no real improvements to the gameplay.

A real testament to realism.

 

[SolidZone 26]

You could kill a sony shill's family and shit directly into their mouth all in the name of playstation and they'll still defend them.

Also, is this leafy's cousin?

is this leafy's new channel?

He sounds just like Leafy but he claims not to be him.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I love how you ignored the fact the Wii kicked both of their asses in sales

The wii burned the hell out real quick, it was the Tickle me Elmo of consoles. It's software sales from anything past launch daste were not that good and the system fucking chugged for games like Last Story. Infact if you ran at max speed the character would outpace on how quick the game could load the world and you would be in a void. The PS3 and Xbox 360 had actual staying power and a consistant release schedule.

Wii games, gamestop were offloading for next to nothing. Because that's how I got Dokapon kingdom for free with a BOGO.

 

[trent]

It's like the kind of goofy character you'd make in Saints Row or something for a laugh.

It looks like someone downloaded some free 3D modeling program from Steam and put a female head on a male body for a laugh.

Except it's real. And the game it's in costs 60 quid.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Wii games, gamestop were offloading for next to nothing. Because that's how I got Dokapon kingdom for free with a BOGO.

Have you been watching that full playthrough too?
That game needs a sequel.

 

[Jack Awful]

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The main problem with hunting down Ellie is, you need enemies that are aligned with her that you have to go through to get to her.

Is that cult in the game only to serve as enemies because Ellie only has like 3 friends or is Ellie all of a sudden going to have a massive faction of nameless foot soldiers for you to mow down?

 

[Marissa Moira]

Have you been watching that full playthrough too?
That game needs a sequel.

IIRC there is one but it was never brought over.

There were a ton of schmups on the wii that have never been ported over like Castle Shikigami 3 and Ultimate Shooting Collection which had Radio Allergy, Karous, and Chaos Field.

 

[Markorian]

The wii burned the hell out real quick, it was the Tickle me Elmo of consoles. It's software sales from anything past launch daste were not that good and the system fucking chugged for games like Last Story. Infact if you ran at max speed the character would outpace on how quick the game could load the world and you would be in a void. The PS3 and Xbox 360 had actual staying power and a consistant release schedule.

Wii games, gamestop were offloading for next to nothing. Because that's how I got Dokapon kingdom for free with a BOGO.

You say that, but 2 of the top 5 best selling wii games released in 2009, 4 years after the console launched, at over 30 million copies sold each. 4 additional games released in 2009-2010 sold between 5 and 15 million copies, which if they were ps3 games, would put them in the top 10 highest lifetime software sales of the console.

 

[Drain Todger]

I just can't play as her, I just can't. From 3rd person, my brain is informing me I'm looking at a man. Then I hear that voice and it doesn't match the body AT ALL. Its fucking terrible character design. I expect this from those 4.99 unfinished Steam Games, not a AAA publisher. It just looks fucking ugly. The model and the game.

This game has to be one of the biggest bullshots in history. Look at that clip up there of the near-finished game. It looks like some alpha build. Compare and contrast with the E3 2018 reel.

Now look at that clip Tex posted again.

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Track it forward to 32 seconds, and watch how both enemies play the same exact "flailing headshot death" animation.

Holy shit, it looks like programmer art! Did they lose all their animators, or what?

 

[TexOffender]

They retreat now? I kind of liked it when their heads were just a popped kernel of popcorn with fungus and a mouth.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The leaked footage is missing post processing stuff. So that part is at least true that the final final finalist build will have better effects but it won't save it from everything else that's wrong with it.

 

[ExciteDyke]

This game has to be one of the biggest bullshots in history. Look at that clip up there of the near-finished game. It looks like some alpha build. Compare and contrast with the E3 2018 reel.

Now look at that clip Tex posted again.



Track it forward to 32 seconds, and watch how both enemies play the same exact "flailing headshot death" animation.

Holy shit, it looks like programmer art! Did they lose all their animators, or what?

Thought it was known that E3 gameplays aren't an exact reflection of what the finished game is gonna look like, just something shiny to get out to the public and lure people in.

 

[Markorian]

And you can look at the 360 and PS3 and see more consistent releases and sales figures. Games sold that much on the PS3 and 360 as well and in larger numbers. That was the generation that started the Call of Duty number chasing and turned FPS into the mess they are today.

Once again, you make this assertion, but the facts do not support it by any metric. GTA IV, the top selling ps3 game, granted, it is a multiplat, sold 25 million copies on the ps3. The top 5 best selling wii games all sold more. The wii had 17 games that sold over 5 million copies, the ps3 had 11. The wii had 55 games that sold over 1 million copies, the ps3 had 35.
Yes, the ps3 had some really good games, but liking them doesn't mean it wasn't a MASSIVE financial blunder that sony still hasn't fully recovered from.